Kobe Bryant Agrees to 2-year Extension

[Koolaid_Man]

And Kobe buttfucked Jerry's corpse to the tune of 48 mil. At least Jerry let him finish :lol



^ while MJ got Buttfucked...

that its and that's all

:lol numnuts making my point for me

[Michael Jordan.]

And Kobe buttfucked Jerry's corpse to the tune of 48 mil. At least Jerry let him finish :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Hey MJ :p:...Kobe buttfucked while you got buttfucked .....how does that shit feel MJ

[Michael Jordan.]

And Kobe buttfucked Jerry's corpse to the tune of 48 mil. At least Jerry let him finish :lol
Caprisun_Man

[SPM]

Melo ain't going to LA. Nigga ain't stupid

[LkrFan]

:lmao LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824), get in here and spin this shit.
Can't spin it. They overpaid.

[Koolaid_Man]

we did what we had to do...there's nothing else out there for them to sign...all we gotta do is dump Nash and Pau and we can sign Melo...

[Koolaid_Man]

the new CBA will see to it that we can sign decent role players...those roster fillers wont be getting big deals...

[Koolaid_Man]

we just need to be cheap as fuck and get others to sign for peanuts it always work and we always do

[LkrFan]

I'm wondering why sign an extension right now? He hasn't played one second for us. And apparently he's still not healthy enough to play. Strange...

[Koolaid_Man]

if I've taught you guys nothing else remember one thing:

with the 3 billion dollar Time Warner deal Lakers have all the cash to afford going over the luxury tax–way....way over the tax–if and when they choose to....

[AchillesHeel]

the new CBA will see to it that we can sign decent role players...those roster fillers wont be getting big deals...

Yeah right, Hill will want 4-5 mil, Young will want 3-4 mil, Henry will want a couple mil, Pau will want 8-12 mil, and you only have 22 mil in cap space if Nash doesn't retire. You ain't getting Melo to take 15 mil or Pau to take 5 mil.

As far as Kirby goes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhuQoQSiBg

[Koolaid_Man]

I'm wondering why sign an extension right now? He hasn't played one second for us. And apparently he's still not healthy enough to play. Strange...

To send the proper message to FA's looking to sign...either near or long term...you short change Kobe and he's upset you can forget about even trying to lure anyone let alone keep Kobe....everyone here with the knee jerk reaction don't seem to understand business 101...they're not overly concerned about the cap..in fact they've made a calculated decision that they're going to pay the luxury and repeater tax all to maximize Kobe's last to title years...you don't go into 2014 with Kobe still showing as on the board and available it's sends a message of weakness to friend and foe alike..sure it's a bold move but life is nothing without the gamble...I think Kobe has one more chapter...

[baseline bum]

Melo ain't going to LA. Nigga ain't stupid

Nigga is stupid, son. I could see it.

[Koolaid_Man]

Yeah right, Hill will want 4-5 mil, Young will want 3-4 mil, Henry will want a couple mil, Pau will want 8-12 mil, and you only have 22 mil in cap space if Nash doesn't retire. You ain't getting Melo to take 15 mil or Pau to take 5 mil.

As far as Kirby goes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhuQoQSiBg

it's not about what they will want it'll be about what they can't get

[RsxPiimp]

I'm wondering why sign an extension right now? He hasn't played one second for us. And apparently he's still not healthy enough to play. Strange...

Per Shelburne, Buss said it was done in good faith to show Kobe how much he's appreciated.

After getting so much heat by signing D'Antoni over Phil, it was Jim's way of showing, look I value loyalty on this franchise.

[Mugen]

Can't spin it. They overpaid.

Condolences on that 2014 Offseason Master Plan tbh.

[AchillesHeel]

it's not about what they will want it'll be about what they can't get

They can get the money by just going to other teams. They ain't taking less money just because Kirby wants to eat first.

[Koolaid_Man]

it was the right call...as long as you're willing to pay 100million in taxes which they are willing

[Koolaid_Man]

They can get the money by just going to other teams. They ain't taking less money just because Kirby wants to eat first.

yes they will...this season is a testament

[Mugen]

Per Shelburne, Buss said it was done in good faith to show Kobe how much he's appreciated.

After getting so much heat by signing D'Antoni over Phil, it was Jim's way of showing, look I value loyalty on this franchise.

if only Fredo valued the Lakers being relevant too tbh.

[Koolaid_Man]

This also sends a message to CP0's short ass...nigga LA will always belong to Kobe

[RsxPiimp]

it was the right call...as long as you're willing to pay 100million in taxes which they are willing

Yeah. Still chump change honestly.

[LkrFan]

Condolences on that 2014 Offseason Master Plan tbh.
I wouldn't go that far. If the opportunity presents itself, they'll exceed the cap with the quickness. These are things we know. I just hope they are smart about the players they sign.

[ambchang]

Couple of points:
1) Makes perfect short term business sense for the Lakers, zero basketball sense, arguable long-term business sense.
2) Kobe cares about shots, not winning
3) Kobe knows he will only own half of what he has a few years from now, so he is doubling his asking price on anything. Smart move.
4) Laker fans are envying Dr. Buss for being dead.
5) Dr. Buss would rather die than see this mess. Good move.

[lefty]

Aaron McGuire @docrostov (https://twitter.com/docrostov)
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so. to recap... kobe/nash, 2015 salaries: $33 million. duncan/parker/kawhi/green/belli, 2015 salaries: $32 million. OK, NBA.

[AchillesHeel]

Aaron McGuire @docrostov (https://twitter.com/docrostov)
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so. to recap... kobe/nash, 2015 salaries: $33 million. duncan/parker/kawhi/green/belli, 2015 salaries: $32 million. OK, NBA.


:lmao

[Robz4000]

:lmao holy crap

To quote a certain Van Gundy brother: "God bless Kobe Bryant".

[AchillesHeel]

A gem from another forum:


http://knicksgm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/grunwald1-300x179.jpg
"We would have given you 180 million over 6 years."


http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kobe+Bryant+NBA+Player+Association+Meet+Negotiate+ T9IojWqqz-sl.jpg
"They got white bishes in New York doe ?"

http://knicksgm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/grunwald1-300x179.jpg
"Yes and we will be signing Zach Randolph this offseason to complement your playstyle."

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Kobe-Face-2.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/14/article-2308832-1947694F000005DC-313_638x645.jpg
"Sorry Mitch but the doctor said that I should retire so you can tear up that contract."

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc76/nycrazyboi718/Kobe_Knicks.jpg


http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/images/2012/03/the-funniest-sports-gifs-of-2012/08-the-funniest-sports-gifs-of-2012.gif

[Arnold Toht]

^ How come I didn't find any of that to be remotely funny?

[AchillesHeel]

^ How come I didn't find any of that to be remotely funny?

Because you're a Laker fan and a Kirby stan?

[spurraider21]

if I've taught you guys nothing else remember one thing:

with the 3 billion dollar Time Warner deal Lakers have all the cash to afford going over the luxury tax–way....way over the tax–if and when they choose to....
:lol caprisun's feeble understanding of the salary cap rules

[benefactor]

Best Monday in recent memory tbh.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8pxVxCEAESec5.jpg:large

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol Mitchell

[benefactor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8pxVxCEAESec5.jpg:large
:lol

[whitemamba]

10 pages in 5 hours.. Damn you guys are wet for kobe.

[Venti Quattro]

Shocked by how steep the extension is, but I guess I'm gonna live this down as long as they don't sign Melo

[Michael Jordan.]

Shocked by how steep the extension is, but I guess I'm gonna live this down as long as they don't sign Melo

Melo is good as gone to the Lakers.

[Mugen]

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/83785/the-true-hollywood-story-of-kobes-crippling-contract

:lol Damn Lowe. I haven't seen anybody go in that hard on the Lakers Front Office since Kobe resigned for 2yr/48 mil tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

Melo is good as gone to the Lakers.
Well ........... fuck

[Medvedenko]

Wow, still shocked at the responses. For such an irrelevant team and obvious Cancer Kobe, you'd think this would be chalked up as a slow news day. It reeks of obsession and validity of Kobe being the Emperor of the NBA.

[Michael Jordan.]

They've hung in this season, at 7-7, with a dreary offense and a surprisingly solid defense that has (not surprisingly) improved without Bryant's irresponsible roaming and declining athleticism. They've done so in part because they spent way over the luxury tax to sign and re-sign some useful veterans (Steve Blake, Jordan Hill, Chris Kaman) and hit nicely on some minimum-level contracts (Jordan Farmar, Xavier Henry, Nick Young).

My nigga Zach :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

Wow, still shocked at the responses. For such an irrelevant team and obvious Cancer Kobe, you'd think this would be chalked up as a slow news day. It reeks of obsession and validity of Kobe being the Emperor of the NBA.
Is this not the NBA forum?

[Medvedenko]

Is this not the NBA forum?

Are you not retired.....

[Michael Jordan.]

Are you not retired.....
Answer the question and stop deflecting. Is this not the NBA forum?

[HI-FI]

Best Monday in recent memory tbh.

^ have to agree with this.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130405200327/godfather/images/thumb/9/96/Vlcsnap-2010-02-24-18h57m55s100.png/500px-Vlcsnap-2010-02-24-18h57m55s100.png

"I'M SMARTTTT"

[Medvedenko]

Answer the question and stop deflecting. Is this not the NBA forum?

Call it the Lakers/Kobe forum and I'll comply with your questioning.

[Michael Jordan.]

Call it the Lakers/Kobe forum and I'll comply with your questioning.
So it IS the NBA forum? Got it.

[DPG21920]

Call it the Lakers/Kobe forum and I'll comply with your questioning.

Why are most Laker fans this unbelievably dumb? What happened to all the Laker fan pride with the "we are the Lakers, we don't tolerate losing or being average"?

[jeebus]

Why are most Laker fans this unbelievably dumb? What happened to all the Laker fan pride with the "we are the Lakers, we don't tolerate losing or being average"?
Now it reads "#stayD12"

[Splits]

10 pages in 5 hours.. Damn you guys are wet for kobe.

Like 5 pages of that is CapriSON

[HI-FI]

Can't spin it. They overpaid.
damn, first time I haven't heard you :downspin: something. Don't get too down scro. Least you get to see your favorite player remain with the Lakers and not go to another team.

I actually don't mind this deal. Sure it wasn't smart, but Kobe has brought that team lots of exposure and money, it's a loyalty contract and Spurs did something similar with Manu. Granted, the money is not the same but Lakers like to spend more and Kirby is beloved in La La Land.

[Michael Jordan.]

This will honestly set them back years to come, and that's not including who they give the max too.

[DPG21920]

LkrFan, my dude Killa & maybe like 2 others I am forgetting are good Laker fans. The rest are Caprisun_Man's and that ain't a good thing :lol

[Mugen]

damn, first time I haven't heard you :downspin: something. Don't get too down scro. Least you get to see your favorite player remain with the Lakers and not go to another team.

I actually don't mind this deal. Sure it wasn't smart, but Kobe has brought that team lots of exposure and money, it's a loyalty contract and Spurs did something similar with Manu. Granted, the money is not the same but Lakers like to spend more and Kirby is beloved in La La Land.

Difference is Manu's team is going to be competing for titles during his contract while Kobe's will be competing with the Kings/Suns for 3rd place in the Pacific Division tbh.

[jimbo]

Tbh they shouldn't even throw a max contract at anyone, they're not winning jack anyways. Might as well save some money and get a better draft pick while placating all the Kobefans.

We all know the only reason he's even playing anymore is to jack up his career points scored. He probably wants to be surrounded by scrubs so he can justify taking every shot.

#KwameComeHome
#ChrisQuinn2LA

[Buddy Mignon]

Ok but as a business owner you do realize you need a product to sell ...right? Sure there are die hard fans that will watch the Lakers no matter what, but being as popular as we are we have plenty of bandwaggoners as well. I can say "screw" those who dont have the stomach to rebuild sans Kobe, but what about the others? you gonna piss off half your fan-base by getting in a contract dispute with arguably your franchise's 2nd greatest player?


Come on Killa. The Lakers are an established brand... a huge brand. We can afford to go through a rebuilding process without having a superstar. If Kobe had walked, how long do you think we would have had to wait for another big name to walk through the door? This move was made to appease Time Warner, that's it. It has nothing to do with trying to win another title. The Lakers are not winning another title with Kobe Bryant as their go to guy. It's a harsh reality, but its obvious.

[Killakobe81]

A tough day for REAL Laker fans tbh ..

I dont think it hurt us in Free Agency, because I doubt Lebron or Melo are coming. Heck even Klove the next year is doubtful even BEFORE he re-signed. But this makes our situation less flexible ... and probably means we lose Pau in the off-season or unload him for peanuts at trade deadline. Either way we did not get better as far as I can tell. Glad to have Kobe back ...but if I am going to be honest even though he is 10x better than Coward ..if I did NOt want him back at the max ...

How can I support this?

[HI-FI]

Difference is Manu's team is going to be competing for titles during his contract while Kobe's will be competing with the Kings/Suns for 3rd place in the Pacific Division tbh.
Definitely agree. Spurs always try to find team guys. Kobe is cashing out and I don't blame him.

[Killakobe81]

Come on Killa. The Lakers are an established brand... a huge brand. We can afford to go through a rebuilding process without having a superstar. If Kobe had walked, how long do you think we would have had to wait for another big name to walk through the door? This move was made to appease Time Warner, that's it. It has nothing to do with trying to win another title. The Lakers are not winning another title with Kobe Bryant as their go to guy. It's a harsh reality, but its obvious.

Ok, then we agree.
and I don't see Kobe winning anywhere as the main threat ... as #2 ...MAYBE.
And he just limited our chances to get that #1 guy and the #3(Pau) would need to be let go to get that #2 ... I just cant see the rebuilding plan right now.

But I do get why from a business perspective why they did this. The problem is as REAL Laker fan this best way to grow your business is by winning titles. Not sure how this HELPs that ...

[HI-FI]

Ok, then we agree.
and I dont see Kobe winning anywhere as the main threat ... as #2 ...MAYBE. and he just limited our chances to get that #2 guy and the #3 would need to be let go to get that #2 ... I just cant see the rebuilding plan right now.

But I do get why from a business perspective why they did this. The problem is as REAL Laker fan this best way to grow your business is by winning titles. Not sure how this HELPs that ...
no offense Killa but how is that different from the past?

[DPG21920]

See, there are still moments where you realize underneath the terrible personality and nurato loving, that Buddy still has it in him (no pun intended) to be a serviceable member of the board. A glimmer of hope on an otherwise bleak day in LA LA land.

I'm torn on what LA should do. They have committed to Kobe for 2 years, so they should do everything they can to win now IMO. Do anything you can to nab a Melo type guy & make a trade for another good, but overpaid player that a team is willing to salary dump.

I don't think that, given the circumstances, that they should spread their money out evenly and sign 3 7M type players. They should at least go as star heavy as they can, swing for the fences and not mess up any cap space for 2 years down the road. Going to be tough because they don't have many trade assets (outside of expiring contracts) and they will still rely on a max type player to take less than Kobe which obviously is difficult.

[Killakobe81]

no offense Killa but how is that different from the past?

Don't be dense.

[Killakobe81]

See, there are still moments where you realize underneath the terrible personality and nurato loving, that Buddy still has it in him (no pun intended) to be a serviceable member of the board. A glimmer of hope on an otherwise bleak day in LA LA land.

I'm torn on what LA should do. They have committed to Kobe for 2 years, so they should do everything they can to win now IMO. Do anything you can to nab a Melo type guy & make a trade for another good, but overpaid player that a team is willing to salary dump.

I don't think that, given the circumstances, that they should spread their money out evenly and sign 3 7M type players. They should at least go as star heavy as they can, swing for the fences and not mess up any cap space for 2 years down the road. Going to be tough because they don't have many trade assets (outside of expiring contracts) and they will still rely on a max type player to take less than Kobe which obviously is difficult.

I face the same issue except I wanted us to hit the lottery this year and come back hard next season ...

[DPG21920]

Ok, then we agree.
and I don't see Kobe winning anywhere as the main threat ... as #2 ...MAYBE.
And he just limited our chances to get that #1 guy and the #3(Pau) would need to be let go to get that #2 ... I just cant see the rebuilding plan right now.

But I do get why from a business perspective why they did this. The problem is as REAL Laker fan this best way to grow your business is by winning titles. Not sure how this HELPs that ...

Well, now you see what the Laker's brass really thinks of Laker fans. I have been saying for a long time that Laker fans are the dumbest, worst fans (not all, but most). This moves shows that ownership thinks Laker fan is really uneducated Kobe fans who will just take this. I think they are probably correct too.

[The Gemini Method]

I'm just going to piggyback what Killa said--I understand the loyalty aspect but it wasn't good business in the sense of fielding a championship caliber team. Unless there is a trick up Kupchak and Fredo's sleeve, I don't see this helping us move up from the outside looking in.

[HI-FI]

Well, now you see what the Laker's brass really thinks of Laker fans. I have been saying for a long time that Laker fans are the dumbest, worst fans (not all, but most). This moves shows that ownership thinks Laker fan is really uneducated Kobe fans who will just take this. I think they are probably correct too.
DPG

[Buddy Mignon]

Ok, then we agree.
and I don't see Kobe winning anywhere as the main threat ... as #2 ...MAYBE.
And he just limited our chances to get that #1 guy and the #3(Pau) would need to be let go to get that #2 ... I just cant see the rebuilding plan right now.

But I do get why from a business perspective why they did this. The problem is as REAL Laker fan this best way to grow your business is by winning titles. Not sure how this HELPs that ...

There is no rebuilding plan at this point. We lost out on the CP3 deal, gambled with Bynum for Howard and lost, and now overpaid Kobe when we could have gotten him for half of what we paid. We've become the Walt Disney on the NBA. Rehashing big names but flopping at the box office. We blew it for 2014. We could have started all over and kept Kobe for a discount.

[Mugen]

If the Lakers play it smart then this isn't a death knell and they can recover fairly quickly after Kirby's contract is up but if they pull another panic move and throw near max money at losers like Melo than they're irrelevant for however long they sign him tbh.

[DPG21920]

I face the same issue except I wanted us to hit the lottery this year and come back hard next season ...

That's where LA messed up. Too much reliance on Kobe + terrible management. If the Spurs didn't trade for/land a young guy in Kawhi (lottery talent), it would have been damn tough to reach the finals. LA needed a cheap young stud on top of managing their cap space. They seemingly have failed at both.

[Michael Jordan.]

If the Lakers play it smart then this isn't a death knell and they can recover fairly quickly after Kirby's contract is up but if they pull another panic move and throw near max money at losers like Melo than they're irrelevant for however long they sign him tbh.

http://i.imgur.com/s0Vdb.gif

[DPG21920]

They can always luck out into a Tyson Chandler to the Mavs type situation where things just click. But that would require Kobe to be full health, another star coming to play with them and then landing that Tyson type player in a trade (or vice versa). But obviously that is pretty far fetched.

The funny thing is, the Lakers did a good job with minimum guys this year which is very hard to do and they won't be able to keep those guys for the min next year because they played so well (Farmar, Henry...) :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

:rollin toothless Jim the lakers GM

[Mugen]

Trolling aside, it's pretty ridiculous how bad the Laker brass has been since Phil left... Dolanesque tbh. They could have hired me and even I couldn't have done a better job of sabotaging the franchise for next decade as bad as Fredo and Mitch have tbh.

[whitemamba]

Like 5 pages of that is CapriSON

Lol mad spur posts tbh

[RsxPiimp]

@BuddMignon nailed it, I was going to post this earlier but the move was to satisfy the corporate office at TWC which committed billions to the Lakers. Unless the Lakers can guarantee bringing a household name, they're not going to take risks and let Kobe walk out. Kobe is essential to their marketing brand until 2016 brings in another marquee talent. As it stands, there is simply no FA in 2014 that can continue this tradition.


There's not much value in Kobe as a player but he's still the most marketable athlete in the league. Everybody wins, but the fans.

[benefactor]

Everybody wins, but the fans.
The whole situation in a nutshell.

[Koolaid_Man]

See, there are still moments where you realize underneath the terrible personality and nurato loving, that Buddy still has it in him (no pun intended) to be a serviceable member of the board. A glimmer of hope on an otherwise bleak day in LA LA land.

I'm torn on what LA should do. They have committed to Kobe for 2 years, so they should do everything they can to win now IMO. Do anything you can to nab a Melo type guy & make a trade for another good, but overpaid player that a team is willing to salary dump.

I don't think that, given the circumstances, that they should spread their money out evenly and sign 3 7M type players. They should at least go as star heavy as they can, swing for the fences and not mess up any cap space for 2 years down the road. Going to be tough because they don't have many trade assets (outside of expiring contracts) and they will still rely on a max type player to take less than Kobe which obviously is difficult.

just because the man is torn over Buss's decision is no valid reason for you to start rotating his balls and putting them on your chin

[KaiRMD1]

Dumbest contract

[LkrFan]

damn, first time I haven't heard you :downspin: something. Don't get too down scro. Least you get to see your favorite player remain with the Lakers and not go to another team.

I actually don't mind this deal. Sure it wasn't smart, but Kobe has brought that team lots of exposure and money, it's a loyalty contract and Spurs did something similar with Manu. Granted, the money is not the same but Lakers like to spend more and Kirby is beloved in La La Land.
He is absolutely worth the money for reasons you stated above. I just wish the contract was smaller so that they could (conceivably) acquire more pieces.

I had no thoughts of him playing for another team. I just thought that a year to year (smaller) contract would have made more business sense. He could see what pieces the FO would acquire, then they decide what's a good figure to sign him for. Win-win for both sides.

It's a gamble signing him for 2 years at $24M/per. The Lakers are known to gamble. The injury he suffered, with all the mileage he has on his body already, his age, etc., will no doubt have an affect on his game/effectiveness. We'll see how it shakes out. They still have some cap room to sign players. I expect to see a few of the players on this year's squad resigned as well (hopefully JHill). Pau may also come back at a reduced price. Interesting offseason coming up for my boys tbh.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lmao

[Mugen]

He is absolutely worth the money for reasons you stated above. I just wish the contract was smaller so that they could (conceivably) acquire more pieces.

I had no thoughts of him playing for another team. I just thought that a year to year (smaller) contract would have made more business sense. He could see what pieces the FO would acquire, then they decide what's a good figure to sign him for. Win-win for both sides.

It's a gamble signing him for 2 years at $24M/per. The Lakers are known to gamble. The injury he suffered, with all the mileage he has on his body already, his age, etct., will no doubt have an affect on his game/effectiveness. We'll see how it shakes out. They still have some cap room to sign players. I expect to see a few of the players on this year's squad resigned as well (hopefully JHill). Pau may also come back at a reduced price. Interesting offseason coming up for my boys tbh.

Not really a "gamble" as much as a business/PR move tbh. If Mitch/Fredo are really "gambling" that Kirby is going to be worth that contract in basketball terms then they're just flat out retarded tbh. You can argue that he's worth that contract financially become of his appeal to Lakerfan and I wouldn't argue but to call that contract anything else would be asinine tbh.

[ElNono]

Wow, was a busy day at the office and I'm just catching up.... the initial reaction is...

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

after a while, it sinks in and...

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DMC]

LG.com melting down over this. lol

[lefty]

Now it reads "#stayD12"
:lol

[DMC]

He is absolutely worth the money for reasons you stated above. I just wish the contract was smaller so that they could (conceivably) acquire more pieces.

I had no thoughts of him playing for another team. I just thought that a year to year (smaller) contract would have made more business sense. He could see what pieces the FO would acquire, then they decide what's a good figure to sign him for. Win-win for both sides.

It's a gamble signing him for 2 years at $24M/per. The Lakers are known to gamble. The injury he suffered, with all the mileage he has on his body already, his age, etc., will no doubt have an affect on his game/effectiveness. We'll see how it shakes out. They still have some cap room to sign players. I expect to see a few of the players on this year's squad resigned as well (hopefully JHill). Pau may also come back at a reduced price. Interesting offseason coming up for my boys tbh.

You've been allotted only like 62m. You cannot say 1 player who's coming off an Achilles injury and is on his way down the other side of the retirement hill is worth almost half of that. You have to consider your budget, and then you can consider what a player is worth with respect to that. I'd say Kobe is worth maybe 15 - 18m a year and even that's reaching. Sure the business side dictates he's a cash cow, but the competition side says you're playing NY Knick ball now and favoring your TV contracts over winning basketball.

[jeebus]

:lol
dats my nigga lefty :cry

[DPG21920]

He is absolutely worth the money for reasons you stated above. I just wish the contract was smaller so that they could (conceivably) acquire more pieces.

I had no thoughts of him playing for another team. I just thought that a year to year (smaller) contract would have made more business sense. He could see what pieces the FO would acquire, then they decide what's a good figure to sign him for. Win-win for both sides.

It's a gamble signing him for 2 years at $24M/per. The Lakers are known to gamble. The injury he suffered, with all the mileage he has on his body already, his age, etc., will no doubt have an affect on his game/effectiveness. We'll see how it shakes out. They still have some cap room to sign players. I expect to see a few of the players on this year's squad resigned as well (hopefully JHill). Pau may also come back at a reduced price. Interesting offseason coming up for my boys tbh.

That is the catch 22 and the reason why Kobe's contract is so brutal. They have ~29M in cap space conceivably but only 3 guys under contract (Kobe/Sacre/:lol Swaggy P). Those players that are cheap now and haven't had pay days yet, will command money (Hill). That eats away at that cap space.

[DPG21920]

Ya - you can just take the "worth it basketball wise" out of the equation. Not only is he not from a budget perspective, but if you factor in a more simple question: Is he the best player in the league even if healthy? - then it's clear that is a resounding no. Yet he will be the league's highest paid player.

[LkrFan]

Not really a "gamble" as much as a business/PR move tbh. If Mitch/Fredo are really "gambling" that Kirby is going to be worth that contract in basketball terms then they're just flat out retarded tbh. You can argue that he's worth that contract financially become of his appeal to Lakerfan and I wouldn't argue but to call that contract anything else would be asinine tbh.
It's a gamble. A huge one. He hasn't proven jackshit in a real game post Achilees rupture. If something goes wrong at anytime within the next 3 years, we're fucked. The Buss Family are loyal to a fault, but at some point you have to look out for the business side going forward. I know what Kobe has meant to that franchise, but eventually they have to move forward.

Who knows, maybe he has shown them enough during his rehab and at practice that convinced him that this is a gamble worth taking. My thoughts are, why now? If he played X amount of games and seemed to be back to his old self, then I say go for it. But to do so now just didn't make any sense to me. They could have had plenty of time to make the same decision later. Kind of reminds me how they hastily made the decision to hire Pringles over PJ. SMH

[LkrFan]

You've been allotted only like 62m. You cannot say 1 player who's coming off an Achilles injury and is on his way down the other side of the retirement hill is worth almost half of that. You have to consider your budget, and then you can consider what a player is worth with respect to that. I'd say Kobe is worth maybe 15 - 18m a year and even that's reaching. Sure the business side dictates he's a cash cow, but the competition side says you're playing NY Knick ball now and favoring your TV contracts over winning basketball.
My thoughts are that they are going to do whatever it takes to field a winner for Kobe within these last 3 years. That being said, I think their thoughts are cap be damned, because we've seen that if they think a player is worth it, they will go over the cap in a heartbeat.

I thought Kobe should get around $12-$15M/per. That isn't a reach considering all of the revenue he has brought to the Lakers over the years. $24M was too much though in my opinion, strictly due to the new CBA being so restricting. We'll see what happens, but if there is a loop, I expect MK to find it. They have $5B TWC contract that will help them absorb paying luxury taxes.

[LkrFan]

That is the catch 22 and the reason why Kobe's contract is so brutal. They have ~29M in cap space conceivably but only 3 guys under contract (Kobe/Sacre/:lol Swaggy P). Those players that are cheap now and haven't had pay days yet, will command money (Hill). That eats away at that cap space.
Yeah, I'm hoping that MK can find a loophole or two in the CBA to make this work. While spending years as an apprentice of the Logo, he made his reputation initially as a cap guru. Crunching numbers are his thang.

JHill is playing his way out of LA - Earl Clark style. :(

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Kobe Bryant tells Yahoo Sports: "This wasn't a negotiation." Column: yhoo.it/IeitEq (http://t.co/Md3jTRKONb)

[da_suns_fan]

Mitch had no leverage....theres no way he could lose Kobe after the D12 debacle.

He didnt have the backbone to stand up to Kobe.

[DPG21920]

Woj has a good point, but NFL players get crapped on worse. NBA players, despite having a ceiling, have a very high ceiling with fully guaranteed deals.

[NRHector]

And the worst thing is that not even Stern can help the Lakers fix this shit, they're fucked

[Mugen]

Who knows, maybe he has shown them enough during his rehab and at practice that convinced him that this is a gamble worth taking. SMH

Even if Kirby comes back and plays at 2013 level (huge IF btw), there's no way in hell he's worth 2yr/48mil from a basketball perspective. He shouldn't be the highest paid player in the league when he won't sniff the Top 5 even he comes back well from the injury tbh.

[DAF86]

Any player with any kind of leverage will never take a mammoth paycut. We us fans think in terms of the team but they have to think in terms of their lifestyle. They are used to spend, invest and save "X" amount of money. I know it sounds silly when talking about millions and millions of dolars but it really isn't. Imagine how your life would change if your salary gets cut in half from one year to the next, of course that NBA stars don't feel the change as much as us but still it does produce a change. Speaking of which:

:lol at folks getting mad after Manu cut his salary in half.

[BatManu20]

Loooollll

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[Splits]

MELO MELO MELO


But as Anthony chatted briefly with USA TODAY Sports about Kobe Bryant's two-year, $48.5 million extension, he may as well have been speaking for the entire free agency class of 2014 when he made this not-so-surprising statement: Bryant's health and performance, rather than the size of his deal, likely will determine whether anyone of equal stature joins him this summer. When asked if free agents like himself would see Bryant as a star who is still worthy of joining in order to contend for a title, Anthony said, "I mean you'll have to see. It's hard to gauge at this point, not until he comes back (from his April Achilles tendon tear) and figures some things out. So I don't know. They might have some plans up their sleeve."

LINK (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/lakers/2013/11/25/kobe-bryant-contract-extension-los-angeles-carmel-anthony-lebron-james-2014-free-agents/3707885/)

[Trainwreck2100]

who the fuck were they bidding against?

[DMC]

Any player with any kind of leverage will never take a mammoth paycut. We us fans think in terms of the team but they have to think in terms of their lifestyle. They are used to spend, invest and save "X" amount of money. I know it sounds silly when talking about millions and millions of dolars but it really isn't. Imagine how your life would change if your salary gets cut in half from one year to the next, of course that NBA stars don't feel the change as much as us but still it does produce a change. Speaking of which:

:lol at folks getting mad after Manu cut his salary in half.

It doesn't sound silly. Players are contractors. They aren't really employees. Being as such they are in and of themselves corporations and they have to consider their bottom line as well. What for profit organization gives up half it's potential earnings to get a championship? If it doesn't equate to more earnings down the road, I'd say none of them. For that reason, a lot of players treat the NBA like it's just a government bidding system and they are the defense contractors. Sure they want to deliver the product but only at the highest possible rate they can, and they want to soak up all the fringe money as well. Championships are great for all the bullshit talk that goes on with us citizens about who's best, but it doesn't do shit for the bank accounts of the NBA contractors.

I would not give a thousand dollars for my team to win the ring. I see no reason to. Sure I like it when they win, but it's a hollow victory because it's not really my team, I just root for them. Maybe some NBA players feel that same way, that they would not sacrifice money to try to allow a billionaire to get something he's not willing to pay for himself. Most of these guys were raised dirt poor, single parents and all their friends are either in jail, broke or dead. I cannot see them thinking in terms of sacrifice to get a group of thrown together mercenaries a ring so the spoon fed celebrities sitting in leather 100K a year seats can text and wear Lakers gear.

[Splits]

It doesn't sound silly. Players are contractors. They aren't really employees. Being as such they are in and of themselves corporations and they have to consider their bottom line as well. What for profit organization gives up half it's potential earnings to get a championship? If it doesn't equate to more earnings down the road, I'd say none of them. For that reason, a lot of players treat the NBA like it's just a government bidding system and they are the defense contractors. Sure they want to deliver the product but only at the highest possible rate they can, and they want to soak up all the fringe money as well. Championships are great for all the bullshit talk that goes on with us citizens about who's best, but it doesn't do shit for the bank accounts of the NBA contractors.

I would not give a thousand dollars for my team to win the ring. I see no reason to. Sure I like it when they win, but it's a hollow victory because it's not really my team, I just root for them. Maybe some NBA players feel that same way, that they would not sacrifice money to try to allow a billionaire to get something he's not willing to pay for himself. Most of these guys were raised dirt poor, single parents and all their friends are either in jail, broke or dead. I cannot see them thinking in terms of sacrifice to get a group of thrown together mercenaries a ring so the spoon fed celebrities sitting in leather 100K a year seats can text and wear Lakers gear.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

[DMC]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

What are you trying to show me?

[Sean Cagney]

How does that help our cap issues, Kool?Our cap issues? My team says Spurs........... LMFAO you still a troll you fucking clown. I guess you had to change it after the sweep last year...........

[Splits]

What are you trying to show me?

Link not working? Try this one: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224908&p=6949748&viewfull=1#post6949748

I like your bball takes but your political ones belong elsewhere.

[LkrFan]

Mitch had no choice. Kobe runs that franchise. After whiffing so publicly on Dwight (and it was humiliating to watch a storied franchise beg and crawl) on the shoulders of getting swept and Kobe hurt, they had to ensure at all costs that Kobe stayed.

They didn't have a Duncan they were dealing with they had Kobe. Kobe had leverage and he squeezed the shit out of them. TBH, I think they got lucky that Kobe didn't make them offer the full max.He couldn't:


Two years is the longest extension he could have signed due to the Over-36 rule.
The new CBA saved us, sorta because it still was the max allowed.

[LkrFan]

Tbh they shouldn't even throw a max contract at anyone, they're not winning jack anyways. Might as well save some money and get a better draft pick while placating all the Kobefans.

We all know the only reason he's even playing anymore is to jack up his career points scored. He probably wants to be surrounded by scrubs so he can justify taking every shot.

#KwameComeHome
#ChrisQuinn2LA
:lol

[LkrFan]

:rollin toothless Jim the lakers GM
:lol

[Mel_13]

He couldn't:


The new CBA saved us, sorta because it still was the max allowed.

Pretty sure that he was referring to maximum dollars. The CBA allowed for a 2-year/66M extension for Kobe. So, from a certain perspective, Kobe left 18M on the table. (He also could have have tried for a 3yr/100M deal, but he would have had to wait until after the 2013-14 season was over.)

[HarlemHeat37]

Again, this is a good move for the Lakers, it makes the most sense, tbh..

Anybody that thought Kobe would take a pay cut to win is a fucking moron and hasn't paid attention to Kobe's career:lol..Kobe is all about Kobe, and even if he wasn't, there's no way Vanessa was going to allow him to take any less than he took, tbh..

Duncan, Garnett and Nowitzki took pay cuts for their teams' flexibility, Lebron and Three did it in their primes, but all those players have different mentalities, obviously..

[DPG21920]

He couldn't:


The new CBA saved us, sorta because it still was the max allowed.

I meant max with regards to the 2 years. He could have signed for 60M+

[Arnold Toht]

If Jim Dunan is making 9.6, and Nowitzki will be making around 12, there's no way the 5-timer at his age should be making 24.


Sorry.

[Michael Jordan.]

If Jim Dunan is making 9.6, and Nowitzki will be making around 12, there's no way the 5-timer at his age should be making 24.


Sorry.

You will eat this shit sandwich and enjoy it, you tootin asshole you.

[Michael Jordan.]

"This was easy,This wasn't a negotiation. I simply agreed to the offer."Bryant told Yahoo Sports on Monday night


:lmao Fredo

[spurraider21]

If Jim Dunan is making 9.6, and Nowitzki will be making around 12, there's no way the 5-timer at his age should be making 24.


Sorry.
That's what happens when your fan base bends over at the sight of an egotistic psychopath

[DMC]

Link not working? Try this one: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224908&p=6949748&viewfull=1#post6949748

I like your bball takes but your political ones belong elsewhere.

There's no politics in that post. It's only an analogy.

[HI-FI]

If Jim Dunan is making 9.6, and Nowitzki will be making around 12, there's no way the 5-timer at his age should be making 24.


Sorry.

He's your rapist, you worshipped him, now you gotta defend him and prepare for a Faber-esque tearing.

[Kool Bob Love]

If Jim Dunan is making 9.6, and Nowitzki will be making around 12, there's no way the 5-timer at his age should be making 24.


Sorry.

He gave you 5-4 phaggot.

You knew the rules.

[DMC]

405008965404073984


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ7hghOCYAA_WAz.jpg:large

Notice the obligatory placement of the SI magazine with Bryant on the cover. That organization deserves everything and then some. Of course he's not getting paid by Starbucks so he turns that around as well as turning the disposable paper cup around. We still know it's Starbucks, we can see the lid. Those Fraps are good though. LOL @ the "scoring streak" poster in the back of the room. Notice there's no "winning streak" poster.

[HI-FI]

Notice the obligatory placement of the SI magazine with Bryant on the cover. That organization deserves everything and then some. Of course he's not getting paid by Starbucks so he turns that around as well as turning the disposable paper cup around. We still know it's Starbucks, we can see the lid. Those Fraps are good though. LOL @ the "scoring streak" poster in the back of the room. Notice there's no "winning streak" poster.
Those Frappes are fucking addictive. I didn't notice the SI issue til now. :lol"The Last Alpha Dog". subtle. I hate Machiavellian types but gotta give credit where it's due, Kobe is a natural at manipulation.

[DMC]

To me it says a lot about the mindset of the front office, that they brag on Kobe's scores, show the SI mag and overpay him. It says they are more interested in selling Kobe than in selling basketball.

[spurraider21]

Kobe probably had a defined limp as we walked over to sign it

[LakerHater]

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[HI-FI]

405552962367275008

sounds like Fredo just got thrown under the bus. also looks like Kobe is going with the DAF86 avatar.

[scanry]

405556635428716545

[Thebesteva]

405552962367275008

Defensive faggot that he is

[ElNono]

Again, this is a good move for the Lakers, it makes the most sense, tbh..

Anybody that thought Kobe would take a pay cut to win is a fucking moron and hasn't paid attention to Kobe's career:lol..Kobe is all about Kobe, and even if he wasn't, there's no way Vanessa was going to allow him to take any less than he took, tbh..

Duncan, Garnett and Nowitzki took pay cuts for their teams' flexibility, Lebron and Three did it in their primes, but all those players have different mentalities, obviously..

truth bomb

[DAF86]

sounds like Fredo just got thrown under the bus. also looks like Kobe is going with the DAF86 avatar.

We all know how Kobe loves to imitate the best, tbh.

[benefactor]

405556635428716545
:lol #mitchissharp
:lol broke down nash
:lol 27 million
:lol two first rounders

[ambchang]

405552962367275008

Only time he plays any defense anymore

[Raven]

Mitch had no choice. Kobe runs that franchise. After whiffing so publicly on Dwight (and it was humiliating to watch a storied franchise beg and crawl) on the shoulders of getting swept and Kobe hurt, they had to ensure at all costs that Kobe stayed.

They didn't have a Duncan they were dealing with they had Kobe. Kobe had leverage and he squeezed the shit out of them. TBH, I think they got lucky that Kobe didn't make them offer the full max.

kobe had leverage? he couldn't get a 10M per year offer if he prayed tbqh. No team in their right mind wouldn't want him, i mean, why would they?

[Raven]

rofl at the copy of SI with Kobe on it on the table :lol

:lol didn't even notice

[AchillesHeel]

Definitely agree. Spurs always try to find team guys. Kobe is cashing out and I don't blame him.

Spurs actually know what they're doing and won't overpay so-called "superstars" to join their team. There's a reason we've been in the playoffs every single year for almost 2 decades, and have won 50 games every season(not including the 99 lock out year).

And Spurs have only lost 3 times in the first round during Duncan's tenure. That's called consistency.

[AchillesHeel]

kobe had leverage? he couldn't get a 10M per year offer if he prayed tbqh. No team in their right mind wouldn't want him, i mean, why would they?

Ticket sales? Jersey sales? Kirby is still a top 3 SG in the league, despite the chucking and not playing defense. When players like Hayward and Gordon are being offered max deals, you don't think there would be a handful of teams ready to pay Kirby 15 mil? Doubt it.

Kirby really had no leverage in negotiating his contract, though. I mean, he ain't getting over 15 mil anywhere else, so the Lakers FO were stupid to throw 48/2 to him, when younger stars under the new CBA get 50 in 4... Of course Kirby took the money without hesitation, he could give 2 shits about winning the ring.

No one's stopping Miami when Lebron's getting better every year.

[Raven]

Ticket sales? Jersey sales? Kirby is still a top 3 SG in the league, despite the chucking and not playing defense. When players like Hayward and Gordon are being offered max deals, you don't think there would be a handful of teams ready to pay Kirby 15 mil? Doubt it.

Kirby really had no leverage in negotiating his contract, though. I mean, he ain't getting over 15 mil anywhere else, so the Lakers FO were stupid to throw 48/2 to him, when younger stars under the new CBA get 50 in 4... Of course Kirby took the money without hesitation, he could give 2 shits about winning the ring.

No one's stopping Miami when Lebron's getting better every year.

it's one thing to overpay a young player you're supposed to build around, it's an entire other story to bring in a declining veteran that would eat up all your cap space. teams just don't overpay for veterans anymore, mark my words, none would give him 10M other than perhaps the knicks or the nets, but even they wouldn't be able to do so anyway. And :lol at owners, still thinking it's the stars that make the team famous, that only works for teams with no history, the lakers fanbase would have been upset about kome leaving for maybe a month or two and then totally embrace every shit the FO would have given them, that being tanking or having a one star team or a mediocre one or whatever..

[LkrFan]

Pretty sure that he was referring to maximum dollars. The CBA allowed for a 2-year/66M extension for Kobe. So, from a certain perspective, Kobe left 18M on the table. (He also could have have tried for a 3yr/100M deal, but he would have had to wait until after the 2013-14 season was over.)
Let me clarify. It was the max allowed years for a player his age. I'm quoting Larry Coon, a world renown cap expert here:

Today the Lakers announced that they have extended Kobe Bryant for two seasons. Terms were not announced, but Ramona Shelburne reported that he will make $23.5 million and $25 million, respectively.

[UPDATE: I have since confirmed that the salary figures are exactly $23.5 million and $25 million. He continues to have an accelerated pay schedule, no incentives, and his contract is fully guaranteed for lack of skill, injury or illness, death, or mental disability.]

Two years is the longest extension he could have signed due to the Over-36 rule. This rule takes effect when a contract is for more than three seasons and ends after the player’s 36th birthday, effectively mooting the salary in the later seasons. For extensions they always count the remaining seasons on the current contract — so Kobe now effectively has a three-year contract, which is the maximum allowed before running into the Over-36 rule. See Question number 56 of my FAQ for more information on this rule.

LINK (http://cbafaq.com/blog/?p=286)

Still, too much money IMO and too soon (especially the bolded). They could have waited until he played at least 25 games or so - to gauge him as a player - and still made the same decision if they chose to. It would have been an informed business decision instead of just paying him now out of loyalty and his past contributions. I suspect making Kobe the NBA's highest paid player was Dr. Buss's dying wish. Fredo was just fulfilling it without visual proof that he could still do it in an actual game. Huge gamble.

[Splits]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ7hghOCYAA_WAz.jpg:large

[Kool Bob Love]

Gold.

[Sean Cagney]

LA fans posting all over happy at the deal and saying he is back and getting paid! How did that work out this year with near half that 48????? Great signing LA!

[SupremeGuy]

The contract that killed the lakers, tbh... :lmao

[Michael Jordan.]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kUXK6azldF0/UE5YveZFI7I/AAAAAAAACy8/xBXs1gccHFA/s1600/crazy-laughter.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

Kirby in November:

http://i.imgur.com/OO7ESbE.jpg

Kirby in March:

http://i.imgur.com/ChL3JBu.jpg

[spurraider21]

the magazine at the end of the table is what makes that picture great tbh. i bet kobe brought that in with him

[Dex]

http://i.imgur.com/Nyop7iN.gif

[poeticism707]

:lol #mitchissharp
:lol broke down nash
:lol 27 million
:lol two first rounders

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Kool Bob Love]

Your own people lodged this beaut.


tee, hee.

[Thread]

^I see you're on the rag this afternoon.

[Kool Bob Love]

^


I can guarantee you I won't ride this out. I've carried you niggas long enough during our down years to be insulted be a contract like that. This is Thanksgiving, not April's Fools.

:lmao

[elmanutres]

^



:lmao

Quietly ditched ship early expecting people won't catch on :lol

[Kool Bob Love]

Oh. THis is why no one wants to coach or play with the lakers this off season.

[Thread]

Oh. THis is why no one wants to coach or play with the lakers this off season.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

[spurraider21]

Terms were not announced, but..

405013317833338880


That can't be true.
:rollin

[spurraider21]

:lmao

There has to be some under the table shit going on. I wouldn't pay more than 20 mil for two years. You salary cap Geeks get in here and tell me how we can circumvent this nigga being the highest paid player in the league and still rebuild. Or, are they fucking excited about the last two wins and are just going to roll with what we got? GET IN HERE YOU GEEKS... MY PHONE IS BLOWING UP FROM PEOPLE LAUGHING AT ME!!!
:lmao

[benefactor]

Just went through this thread again. Fun read.

[baseline bum]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

[Thread]

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

Nope. It's my invention. My concession.

The Bag stays in Texas.

[baseline bum]

Nope. It's my invention. My concession.

The Bag stays in Texas.

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

[ambchang]

Nope. It's my invention. My concession.

The Bag stays in Texas.

When it was 5>4, there were no qualifiers

Now that 5>5, qualifiers came out of no where.

[Thread]

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

You fucked up. I told you then that you'd live to regret it.

The Bag stays in Texas.

[Thread]

When it was 5>4, there were no qualifiers

Now that 5>5, qualifiers came out of no where.

Nope. The Bag has been here for years. You fucked up. You've nobody to blame but yourselves. I've no sympathy for you.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

[baseline bum]

Nope. The Bag has been here for years. You fucked up. You've nobody to blame but yourselves. I've no sympathy for you.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

[Clipper Nation]

When it was 5>4, there were no qualifiers

Now that 5>5, qualifiers came out of no where.
Dale is too chickenshit to admit Duncan>Kirby, and he won't pay his ticket either :lol

[Thread]

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

The Bag stays in Texas.

[Thread]

Dale is too chickenshit to admit Duncan>Kirby, and he won't pay his ticket either :lol

The slope.

[Clipper Nation]

The slope.
Pay your ticket yet, Dale?

[Thread]

Pay your ticket yet, Dale?

lmcontrollinao!!!

[Clipper Nation]

lmcontrollinao!!!
Pay it yet?

[Thread]

^The slope.

[Clipper Nation]

^The slope.
The ticket.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

^The slope.

Signed Thomas "Dale" Hread

[Thread]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

[Gummi Clutch]

well, one bag just decimated his own team :lol

The buthurt is strong cul.

[ambchang]

Nope. The Bag has been here for years. You fucked up. You've nobody to blame but yourselves. I've no sympathy for you.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

Nah-uh. You came up with qualifiers in measuring greatness. Prior, it was solely the number of championships, now you are adding Diaw, Kawhi and Patty carrying Duncan. You can't have it both ways Cubby. You are contradicting yourself.

You clearly stated in the past that winning the last game in the playoffs is the only thing that counts, now you are talking about getting carried and stuff.

So, tell me this, did Duncan win the last game of the playoffs? Yes or no?

[baseline bum]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

[Thread]

Nah-uh. You came up with qualifiers in measuring greatness. Prior, it was solely the number of championships, now you are adding Diaw, Kawhi and Patty carrying Duncan. You can't have it both ways Cubby. You are contradicting yourself.

You clearly stated in the past that winning the last game in the playoffs is the only thing that counts, now you are talking about getting carried and stuff.

So, tell me this, did Duncan win the last game of the playoffs? Yes or no?

Horseshit. Your people made fun of me for typing the entire TOSB out in long hand in the 5-4 regimen.

[unforeseen]

Nah-uh. You came up with qualifiers in measuring greatness. Prior, it was solely the number of championships, now you are adding Diaw, Kawhi and Patty carrying Duncan. You can't have it both ways Cubby. You are contradicting yourself.

You clearly stated in the past that winning the last game in the playoffs is the only thing that counts, now you are talking about getting carried and stuff.

So, tell me this, did Duncan win the last game of the playoffs? Yes or no?

[Clipper Nation]

Horseshit. Your people made fun of me for typing the entire TOSB out in long hand in the 5-4 regimen.
Duncan won the last game he played.

[Thread]

Duncan won the last game he played.

The slope.

[Clipper Nation]

The slope.
The ticket.

[Thread]

The ticket.

The zipperhead.

[Clipper Nation]

The zipperhead.
The ticket.

[ambchang]

Horseshit. Your people made fun of me for typing the entire TOSB out in long hand in the 5-4 regimen.

You being made fun of earlier on doesn't mean that you aren't self-contradicting right now. Get through your senile skull that these are two separate issues.

[Kool Bob Love]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

Still no coach or max talent pal?

[Thread]

Still no coach or max talent pal?

No. We're face ass down. The chickens have home to roost, big time.

[benefactor]

...and Dirk takes a Duncan deal so the Mavs can sign FA's.:lol

This thread just keeps getting better.

[Thread]

...and Dirk takes a Duncan deal so the Mavs can sign FA's.:lol

This thread just keeps getting better.

Kobe: 5

Dirk: 1

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5

[Kool Bob Love]

Kirby will force out MVPau after seeing how much better he's looked without the chucking cancer in the lineup, tbh....

End result: "Gay. DeRozan. Bryant. YES.THEY.DID." :downspin:

Gasol 2 the bulls.

Lin. Boozer. TOSB. YES.THEY.DID.:rollin

[Splits]

Arn

http://i.imgur.com/KjO4FhW.gif

[spurraider21]

:lmao

There has to be some under the table shit going on. I wouldn't pay more than 20 mil for two years. You salary cap Geeks get in here and tell me how we can circumvent this nigga being the highest paid player in the league and still rebuild. Or, are they fucking excited about the last two wins and are just going to roll with what we got? GET IN HERE YOU GEEKS... MY PHONE IS BLOWING UP FROM PEOPLE LAUGHING AT ME!!!
he shouldn't take a paycut. he should take all he can. everyone else is chumps, right? :lol

[SupremeGuy]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 5Duncan>sidekick

kirby is the bag, the shit in it, and is in eternal possession of it

It's overPERIOD

[Clipper Nation]

Duncan>sidekick

kirby is the bag, the shit in it, and is in eternal possession of it

It's overPERIOD
"Sidekick" implies that Kirby was the second option instead of the thirteenth :lol

[Dex]

Gasol 2 the bulls.

Lin. Boozer. TOSB. YES.THEY.DID.:rollin

:lmao They are like a shitty version of the Bulls without a coach or defense.

[spurraider21]

"Sidekick" implies that Kirby was the second option instead of the thirteenth :lol
:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol

[SupremeGuy]

"Sidekick" implies that Kirby was the second option instead of the thirteenth :lollmaovictorious!

[Clipper Nation]

CHAAAAAARGE!

[Splits]

:lmao

[Red Hawk #21]

You want it to be one way.

But it's the other way.

http://i.imgur.com/7vuYwEO.jpg?1

[Kool Bob Love]

No. We're face ass down. The chickens have home to roost, big time.

[unforeseen]

http://luckypunkass.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/02/yao-ming-wearing-own-bitch-please-t-shirt-bleachers.jpg

[gambit1990]

can someone make a video of all of kobe's misses this season to the sound of the benny hill theme song? :lol

[Agloco]

48:200

[Raven]

I can guarantee you I won't ride this out. I've carried you niggas long enough during our down years to be insulted be a contract like that. This is Thanksgiving, not April's Fools.
guess what, you did. congrats :lol