Any drummers up in here?

[cantthinkofanything]

My daughter wants a drum set for Christmas. Which I realize is loud as shit. I'm thinking about getting her an electronic drum kit to be able to control the volume. But that seems like it might not be the best way to start off learning the drums.

Anyone drummers out there that have an opinion on this?

[xmas1997]

Most drummers will tell you they prefer an acoustic set which are usually cheaper, and no amp, but modern techno drummers like the electric kind.
Don't waste money on a cheap set, get either a Roland or a Yamaha if you can afford it and if she is old enough to understand the presets as well as be able to take care of it.
You will need to get a small cheap amp to go with it.
And the electronic ones are not cheap, but have obvious advantages, such as the use of headphones which you'll also need to buy.
However if you go the acoustic route, you can find them at most pawn shops, but they are loud.
Good luck.

[cantthinkofanything]

Most drummers will tell you they prefer an acoustic set which are usually cheaper, and no amp, but modern techno drummers like the electric kind.
Don't waste money on a cheap set, get either a Roland or a Yamaha if you can afford it and if she is old enough to understand the presets as well as be able to take care of it.
You will need to get a small cheap amp to go with it.
And the electronic ones are not cheap, but have obvious advantages, such as the use of headphones which you'll also need to buy.
However if you go the acoustic route, you can find them at most pawn shops, but they are loud.
Good luck.

Thanks. I'm worried that if she starts off with an electronic kit, she'll never learn the control she would with an acoustic set. The other plus which you hit on is the cost. I think I can find a decent acoustic kit for a few hundred dollars. At least something that'll last long enough to know if she'll continue playing. But yeah...it'll be loud as hell.

It's either that or a bunny.

[xmas1997]

Thanks. I'm worried that if she starts off with an electronic kit, she'll never learn the control she would with an acoustic set. The other plus which you hit on is the cost. I think I can find a decent acoustic kit for a few hundred dollars. At least something that'll last long enough to know if she'll continue playing. But yeah...it'll be loud as hell.

It's either that or a bunny.

Then by far the acoustic set is the way to go, especially to learn technique, but it will drive you crazy unless you also fork over some money for some lessons. It will be very loud. Buy some earplugs for the rest of the family. :lol
It will be the cheapest route to see if she is interested or not and if she has any talent.
Electronic sets are not worth buying unless you get one of the two better brands already mentioned and they start in over $1,500. Plus you have to master the presets.
A lot of acoustic drummers these days are going both routes by installing electronic "triggers" in their acoustic sets, but that is after they know how to drum well and want the versatility.

I have both sets here at my house in my studio, and without a doubt every drummer I know always picks the acoustic set to jam on. Only the novices and wannabe drummers pick the electronic set.

[cantthinkofanything]

Then by far the acoustic set is the way to go, especially to learn technique, but it will drive you crazy unless you also fork over some money for some lessons. It will be very loud. Buy some earplugs for the rest of the family. :lol
It will be the cheapest route to see if she is interested or not and if she has any talent.
Electronic sets are not worth buying unless you get one of the two better brands already mentioned and they start in over $1,500. Plus you have to master the presets.
A lot of acoustic drummers these days are going both routes by installing electronic "triggers" in their acoustic sets, but that is after they know how to drum well and want the versatility.

Wouldn't think of doing it without lessons. Yeah...I think acoustic is where we end up. Just have to deal with the noise. The dogs will go nuts.

[xmas1997]

Wouldn't think of doing it without lessons. Yeah...I think acoustic is where we end up. Just have to deal with the noise. The dogs will go nuts.

I hope I was able to help.
How old is she?
They do make different sizes depending on age too, the smaller ones being much cheaper.
Most "purest" drummers will steer you toward the acoustic route in drum sets.

[xmas1997]

One last thing to be aware of, cymbals. DO NOT BUY CHEAP CYMBALS. Spend the extra money, you'll be glad you did in the long run. Zildjian are one of the best brands but too expensive for the novice. Just find some that are medium grade. Again you can get good buys at pawn shops.

[cantthinkofanything]

I hope I was able to help.
How old is she?
They do make different sizes depending on age too, the smaller ones being much cheaper.
Most "purest" drummers will steer you toward the acoustic route in drum sets.

She's 13. She played percussion in her MS band and ended up on the snare mostly and she enjoyed it. I'll probably go ahead and get a full size.

[leemajors]

Viva Las Espuelas is I believe

[xmas1997]

She's 13. She played percussion in her MS band and ended up on the snare mostly and she enjoyed it. I'll probably go ahead and get a full size.

Sounds great, but remember the tip about the cymbals. People think they can get by with cheap ones, until they have to buy them over and over again and waste lots of money.
Cheap ones crack and break quickly, the expense can pile up fast. You can always sell good cymbals online or Craigslist for almost what you invested if she loses interest.

[cantthinkofanything]

Sounds great, but remember the tip about the cymbals. People think they can get by with cheap ones, until they have to buy them over and over again and waste lots of money.
Cheap ones crack and break quickly, the expense can pile up fast. You can always sell good cymbals online or Craigslist for almost what you invested if she loses interest.

Thanks for the tip.

[DisAsTerBot]

they sell rubber pads to place on each drum or cymbal to help mute the sound some

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yeah. What they said. You shouldn't worry too much about technique if they go from an electronic kit to an acoustic one. Yeah, the surfaces are different but muscles are trainable. Its actually good to switch from both to build them up. I do that. For playing, that is. I'm not saying you get muscular doing it. And cymbals aren't that much of a big deal. It takes a lot to break one if it's of good quality or bad. Plus, breaking cymbals is just bad technique. Craigslist will be your friend. Especially, since it's the holidays. Go get yourself a crack gift :D

[cantthinkofanything]

Yeah. What they said. You shouldn't worry too much about technique if they go from an electronic kit to an acoustic one. Yeah, the surfaces are different but muscles are trainable. Its actually good to switch from both to build them up. I do that. For playing, that is. I'm not saying you get muscular doing it. And cymbals aren't that much of a big deal. It takes a lot to break one if it's of good quality or bad. Plus, breaking cymbals is just bad technique. Craigslist will be your friend. Especially, since it's the holidays. Go get yourself a crack gift :D

You're saying that it wouldn't be a big deal for her to start on electronic and then go to acoustic? From a noise standpoint, that would be way better.

[DMC]

I was a drummer. I'd start with the electronic set just so you can preserve your sanity. Earphones are great. You can still hear them tapping away, but it's more like a practice pad than a drum.

[DMC]

Most drummers will tell you they prefer an acoustic set which are usually cheaper, and no amp, but modern techno drummers like the electric kind.
Don't waste money on a cheap set, get either a Roland or a Yamaha if you can afford it and if she is old enough to understand the presets as well as be able to take care of it.
You will need to get a small cheap amp to go with it.
And the electronic ones are not cheap, but have obvious advantages, such as the use of headphones which you'll also need to buy.
However if you go the acoustic route, you can find them at most pawn shops, but they are loud.
Good luck.

Just go with Pearl clear double bass with roto toms and a ride and crash cymbal (Turkish) and you'll be fine. Buy brushes. They need to learn to play rhythm and brushes are great for that.

[cantthinkofanything]

I was a drummer. I'd start with the electronic set just so you can preserve your sanity. Earphones are great. You can still hear them tapping away, but it's more like a practice pad than a drum.

Thanks. I've done a 180. With an acoustic set, we'd probably always be arguing about when she can play and for how long. This way, It won't matter. Really a no brainier if there's no big drawback.

[xmas1997]

Like I said electronic drums are expensive. Roland and Yamaha are the standard bearers, with Roland a shade better.
I have a set of acoustics and electronic.
There are cheap electronic sets out there, but they are the equivalent of toys, terrible quality and constantly break with no warranty.
Good luck.

[silverblk mystix]

I was a drummer. I'd start with the electronic set just so you can preserve your sanity. Earphones are great. You can still hear them tapping away, but it's more like a practice pad than a drum.


How do you get a drummer to leave your porch?

Pay him for the pizza!



:lmao:lmao

[xmas1997]

How do you get a drummer to leave your porch?

Pay him for the pizza!

:lol

:lmao:lmao

[xmas1997]

How can you tell a drummer is at the door?




The knocking speeds up.

[silverblk mystix]

How can you tell when a drummer is at the front door?


The knocking starts normally then it speeds up then it goes slow then speeds up again....


:lmao

[silverblk mystix]

oh shit - beat me to it!

[xmas1997]

What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?




Hey, how about we try one of my songs?

[silverblk mystix]

What do you call a drummer who breaks up with his girlfriend?


Homeless

[xmas1997]

What do you call a drummer who breaks up with his girlfriend?




Homeless.

[silverblk mystix]

:lmao


What does a drummer use for contraception?
His personality.

[xmas1997]

That time you beat me to it.
:lmao

[silverblk mystix]

beat you there

[silverblk mystix]

• What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?
A drummer.

[xmas1997]

How do you tell if the stage is level?




The drummer is drooling from both sides of his mouth.

[silverblk mystix]

:lol

[xmas1997]

• What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?
A drummer.
:lol

[silverblk mystix]

• I once asked a drummer how to spell "Mississippi".
He said, "the river or the state?"

[xmas1997]

What is the difference between a drummer and a savings bond?



One will mature and make money.

[xmas1997]

What is the difference between a men and a savings bonds?



Savings bonds mature faster.

[silverblk mystix]

:lmao:lmao


Why didn't I ever guess that DMC is a drummer?

:lol

[xmas1997]

• I once asked a drummer how to spell "Mississippi".
He said, "the river or the state?"


:lol

[xmas1997]

Hey, did you here about the drummer who finished high school?




Me neither.

[xmas1997]

Hey buddy, how late does the band play?





Oh, about half a beat behind the drummer.

[silverblk mystix]

:lmao

[xmas1997]

:lmao:lmao


Why didn't I ever guess that DMC is a drummer?

:lol

:lol

[xmas1997]

What do you say to a drummer in a three piece suit?




Will the defendant please rise?

[xmas1997]

What do you call a drummer with half a brain?





Gifted.

:lol

[silverblk mystix]

:lmao


• What has three legs and an asshole?
A drum stool.

[silverblk mystix]

:lol

• What's the difference between a large pizza and a drummer?
The pizza can feed a family of four.

[xmas1997]

:lmao


• What has three legs and an asshole?
A drum stool.

:lmao

[xmas1997]

What is the first thing a drummer says when he moves to LA?




Would you like fries with that, buddy?

[xmas1997]

And how is a drum solo like a sneeze?




You know it's coming but there's nothing you can do about it.

:lol

[silverblk mystix]

:lol


• What did the drummer say to the band leader?
Do you want me to play too fast or too slow?

[xmas1997]

Oh pleeeeeease, stop. :lol

[silverblk mystix]

Billy: Mommy - I want to be a drummer when I grow up!

Mommy: Silly billy - you know you can't do both!

[xmas1997]

Wait, what is the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?




You only have to punch the information into the drum machine once.

[xmas1997]

Billy: Mommy - I want to be a drummer when I grow up!

Mommy: Silly billy - you know you can't do both!

:lmao. Blakey

[xmas1997]

What did the drummer get on his IQ test?




Drool.

[silverblk mystix]

What do strippers do to their assholes before they go to work?

They drop them off at band practice!

[silverblk mystix]

What do you call a drummer with a credit card?


Married

[xmas1997]

What do you call a drummer with a credit card?


Married

That one fits half the posters on this site.
:lol

[xmas1997]

Did you hear about the bass player who locked his keys in his car?



He had to break a window to get the drummer out.

[silverblk mystix]

:lol

[DMC]

How do you get a drummer to leave your porch?

Pay him for the pizza!



:lmao:lmao

Was it really that funny? You and a few others here have diluted the effect of the rofl emoticon.

[silverblk mystix]

Was it really that funny? You and a few others here have diluted the effect of the rofl emoticon.

Don't hate bro - appreciate!

[DMC]

:lmao:lmao


Why didn't I ever guess that DMC is a drummer?

:lol
You were probably too busy eating.

[silverblk mystix]

You were probably too busy eating.

No joke.

I love to eat.

[xmas1997]

So this guy goes into a store and says, "I want a Vox AC30 amplifier and a Rickenbacker 660/12."
The clerk stops him right there and says,"You're DMC, aren't you"?

"Uh, Yeah, how did you know?"

"This is a travel agency."

[silverblk mystix]

So this guy goes into a store and says, "I want a Vox AC30 amplifier and a Rickenbacker 660/12."
The clerk stops him right there and says,"You're DMC, aren't you"?

"Uh, Yeah, how did you know?"

"This is a travel agency."



:lol

[mrsmaalox]

I hope you all aren't thinking the electronic set will be silent. It won't be. I have both kinds set up at my house right now (usually there are 2 of each) and of course the acoustic set is loud, but the electronic set isn't a lot quieter. They are set up on opposite ends of the house; the sound just naturally doesn't bother me much, but I hear them both almost equally and they sound enough alike to me that I have to stop and listen to be able to differentiate which kit I'm hearing.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

You're saying that it wouldn't be a big deal for her to start on electronic and then go to acoustic? From a noise standpoint, that would be way better.

Wouldn't be a big deal. You can get a decent set of Roland's for around $700. Roland's have better sounds and if she loses interests you'll be able to unload it on craigslist pretty quick.

[xmas1997]

Wouldn't be a big deal. You can get a decent set of Roland's for around $700. Roland's have better sounds and if she loses interests you'll be able to unload it on craigslist pretty quick.

That a used set?
That is a hell of a price for Roland.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Well, I just looked it up and the cheap one is $800 but we're talking bare bones here. Enough to do the job for a beginner.

[xmas1997]

Well, I just looked it up and the cheap one is $800 but we're talking bare bones here. Enough to do the job for a beginner.


Can't beat that price. It include a small amp?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Nah. Just get headphones. That's all you need.

[Rogue]

Jeff is a well known drummer in San Antonio I think, but he doesn't seem to be posting here regularly I'm afraid.

[cantthinkofanything]

Ok...so to pay $800 and then her not take to the drums put me off. For $800, I can get the bunny and cage plus some pretty cheap electronic drums for $500. If she starts complaining that the rides aren't sensitive enough, then I'll be OK upgrading. If she doesn't seem to give a shit, then I'm OK wasting the money. It's not like we don't already have $1000 in Webkins anyway.