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benefactor
11-27-2013, 06:13 PM
Durant fouls Leonard out halfway through the first tbh.

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 06:58 PM
Westchimp will prolly throw feces at some point during the game before storming into the locker room in a fit of rage.

benefactor
11-27-2013, 07:14 PM
Westchimp will prolly throw feces at some point during the game before storming into the locker room in a fit of rage.
No fit of rage will be needed...Perk will put up enough of a fake tough guy act to cover both of them.

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 07:21 PM
No fit of rage will be needed...Perk will put up enough of a fake tough guy act to cover both of them.

Porkins will be too busy punching some meth-addled woman in the audience to step up for the chimp when Bayne comes for him.

The Gemini Method
11-27-2013, 07:21 PM
Chimpball vs Civilized Foreign Chimpball...this should be good.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:06 PM
:flag:

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:06 PM
Is Splitter starting?

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:08 PM
Spurs by 1

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:08 PM
Got the Spurs broadcast :tu:tu:tu

Holden_Caulfield
11-27-2013, 08:08 PM
spurs by 9

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:09 PM
Looks like Tiago is starting

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:09 PM
:lol wtf was that from Ibaka

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:10 PM
Got the Spurs broadcast :tu:tu:tu
Was glad to see that as well.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:10 PM
:lol Westchimp

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:11 PM
:lol Lakers up 43-18 on the Nyets

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:12 PM
Bad Splitter so far

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:12 PM
Tiago brought the soft stuff tonight

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:13 PM
westbrick throwing chat already

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:13 PM
smh

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:13 PM
I forgot how much I hate the thunder arena music. It's so awful

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:13 PM
Why was Splitter trying to make a post move with no one on him.:lol

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:13 PM
Tiago is scared already...

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:14 PM
what in the fuck, 3 missed 1-foot shots?

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:14 PM
Penderfag is going to get raped in this game. Is Bane activated?

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:14 PM
Just dunk the ball, Splitter

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:15 PM
det footwork and fake

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:16 PM
Running Tim off that shot is actually good for the Spurs

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:16 PM
come on danny

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:17 PM
I see Green will be useless tonight. Bench his ass.

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:17 PM
Chuckbrook in rhythm

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:17 PM
god bless westchuck

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:19 PM
pls take those westy

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:20 PM
bullshit

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:21 PM
det foul

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:21 PM
Chimpshit.

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:22 PM
Durant surprisingly not getting his typical calls. Westbrook, on the other hand...

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:22 PM
Tons of missed wide open threes

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:22 PM
westcunt

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:23 PM
det whistle

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 08:24 PM
:lol Thunderefs

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:24 PM
Both teams shooting amazing.

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:24 PM
there you go

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:25 PM
finally

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:26 PM
Kawow

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:27 PM
Kawow

bill?

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:27 PM
bill?

Leonard, IMO

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:28 PM
Both teams shooting terrible, but the Spurs winning on the offensive glass has been the difference.

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:28 PM
Yes, Rose, tell us about "playing big"...

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:28 PM
there's ayres... where's my nigga jeebus at? :lol

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:28 PM
Penderfag noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:29 PM
Leonard, IMO

bill land always says kawow, thats what i mean imo

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:29 PM
Penderfag noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

he got game doe

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:29 PM
reggie jackson is a faggot... you heard it here first

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:29 PM
there's ayres... where's my nigga jeebus at? :lol


Penderfag noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:lol

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:30 PM
he got game doe

yeah. missing dunks and letting the opposing PFs grab 40000 rebounds in a quarter

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:31 PM
Both teams chucking away

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:31 PM
yeah. missing dunks and letting the opposing PFs grab 40000 rebounds in a quarter

would you rather bayne

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:32 PM
lol three ball

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:32 PM
let's see how Patty and Belli look coming in... Diaw been pretty quiet so far

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:32 PM
does durant always cry if he doesn't get a foul after every breath on him?

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:33 PM
would you rather bayne

I'd rather have nando out there looking lost and confused. I'd rather have Udoka out there in his suit. Suit up the fat fuck spurfan with mustard on his fingers. Anyone but Penderfag.

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:33 PM
does durant always cry if he doesn't get a foul after every breath on him?

Yes

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:34 PM
Spurs shot 12 threes in the first quarter...:lol damn.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:34 PM
shot like shit from 3 and still up... can't complain tbh

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:34 PM
I'm surprised are even up 2 after that shitfest of a quarter. 12 threes :lol

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:35 PM
good job belli

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:36 PM
Ayers getting owned on the glass

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:36 PM
lol thunda tbh

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:37 PM
Ayers getting owned on the glass

http://i.imgur.com/aVOSkIC.gif

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:37 PM
boris the beast

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:37 PM
Boris

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:37 PM
lol thunderannouncer "Diaw is a reluctant shooter. don't gotta guard him"

yes :lol take that advice

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:38 PM
now theyre chucking from everywhere and going in

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:38 PM
Manu getting fed up with Ayers rotations

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:38 PM
Fisher sucks so bad now. He's basically playing for the Spurs.

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 08:39 PM
Spurs playing like dog shit tbh.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:39 PM
:lmao thunderefs getting a taste of their own medicine.

fuck you, daughter abuser

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:39 PM
turnobili is being a cunt tonight

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:39 PM
:lol offensive foul

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:39 PM
you knew that flop was coming :lol

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:39 PM
sweet job penderfag

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:40 PM
good screen ayres

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:40 PM
I love how the OKC crowd boo and shout vulgarities EVERY time a call doesn't go their way

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:40 PM
lol thunderannouncer "Diaw is a reluctant shooter. don't gotta guard him"

yes :lol take that advice
yes

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:41 PM
I love how the OKC crowd boo and shout vulgarities EVERY time a call doesn't go their way
Worst white trash fans since the Jazz in the 90's

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:42 PM
turnobili is being a cunt tonight

what do you want him to do? Can't run a fucking pick and roll without a whistle

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:43 PM
Pop had enough... TD in for Pender

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:43 PM
what do you want him to do? Can't run a fucking pick and roll without a whistle

i expect him to fucking kill himself after game 6

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:43 PM
:lol Fisher again

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:43 PM
:lol Fischer. you faggy faggot

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:44 PM
uh.. there's pender again...

LkrFan
11-27-2013, 08:44 PM
Right on que: Tammy shooting 4:lol% so far.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:44 PM
Patty!

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:44 PM
Patty time

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:44 PM
my nigga patty

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:45 PM
Need to put Splitter back in

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:45 PM
Patty!

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:45 PM
Patty again

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:46 PM
my nigga patty

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:46 PM
we chucking 3s like there's no tomorrow

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:46 PM
someone fly to Oklahoma and crucify Penderfag

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:46 PM
patty is the man

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:47 PM
At least Patty's chucking is working

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:47 PM
someone fly to Oklahoma and crucify Penderfag

do it m8

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:48 PM
do it m8

I'll let you do it. you're closer

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:48 PM
fucking rebound

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:48 PM
FUCK YOU PFAG

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:48 PM
Ayres cant box out for shit

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:50 PM
kawow

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:50 PM
Kawhi

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:51 PM
I'm actually missing the days of Bonner getting big man minutes. At least he makes threes at this time of the year.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:51 PM
wtf palming...

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:52 PM
I'll let you do it. you're closer

tha fuck?

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:52 PM
Beli dime

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:52 PM
come on... little run here

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:52 PM
Leonard looking sharp

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:52 PM
tha fuck?

:lol

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:53 PM
Westchuck, keep chucking please

AussieFanKurt
11-27-2013, 08:54 PM
ma nigga kawhi

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:55 PM
wonder what's the show at halftime.... "incest the musical"?

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 08:56 PM
Ayres is absolutely terrible.

Kawhi with a very nice first half.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:56 PM
Manu

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:57 PM
Vintage Manu

CitizenDwayne
11-27-2013, 08:57 PM
:lol carmelo

"Playing in New York, you always have the biggest expectations"

:rollin 3-10

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:57 PM
:lol westbrick

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:58 PM
Chimp :lol

td4mvp2k
11-27-2013, 08:59 PM
:monkey

benefactor
11-27-2013, 08:59 PM
Duncan with signs of a pulse

jeebus
11-27-2013, 08:59 PM
good ol hero ball :cry

ElNono
11-27-2013, 08:59 PM
good shit... close the quarter

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 08:59 PM
:lol

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:00 PM
moar chucking

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:00 PM
damn that airball... we needed the rebound

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:00 PM
Ibaka has the basketball IQ of a jar of pickles

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:01 PM
1-11 :lol

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:01 PM
oh well... good first half all things considered

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:02 PM
3 point lead after 2 quarters of holocaust ball. meh, I'll take it.

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:02 PM
Can't expect Westbrook and Durant to miss as many shots in the 2nd half.

Well...maybe with Westbrook you could.


Hopefully Spurs can continue to force them into jumpshots.

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:03 PM
I want Kawhi to score 30.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:03 PM
we need a better splitter... we're scared going inside

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:03 PM
Refs showing surprising restraint from a charity stripe standpoint, but there was a lot of chucking going on.

urunobili
11-27-2013, 09:03 PM
Kawhi VERY aggressive

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:04 PM
we need a better splitter... we're scared going inside
Yup...needs to come out with a flame in his ass.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:05 PM
they're shooting better from 2 and 3 than we are and have more FTs, yet we lead... that's defense, tbh

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:06 PM
Anyone getting the OKC feed on league pass?

Who is this old ass meth addict woman talking about how old the Spurs are? :lol

Brunodf
11-27-2013, 09:06 PM
Spurs played like shit

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:06 PM
actually, we're a bit better on 2s... 41.7% to 41.5%

HI-FI
11-27-2013, 09:06 PM
caught most of it, Kawhi making a statement game tonight.

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:06 PM
they're shooting better from 2 and 3 than we are and have more FTs, yet we lead... that's defense, tbh

:tu

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:07 PM
25% from downtown right now... Thunder 27.3% :lol

HI-FI
11-27-2013, 09:09 PM
always nerve wraacking playing these guys, you know Stern and cohorts must jack off to game 6 2012 WCF. gotta be careful in any contact with Thunderefs.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:10 PM
Pernderfag kinda killed the bench tonight... wonder if Pop gonna go with extended minutes for Tim/Tiago in the 2nd half

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:14 PM
Anyone getting the OKC feed on league pass?

Who is this old ass meth addict woman talking about how old the Spurs are? :lol
yes. they're horrible and very misinformed about everything.

Pernderfag kinda killed the bench tonight... wonder if Pop gonna go with extended minutes for Tim/Tiago in the 2nd half

hopefully we get to see some *gulp* Boner :cry

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:16 PM
Son watching this game might give you MagicAIDS

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:20 PM
damn that J, timmy

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:20 PM
gotta have those

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:20 PM
all those shitty mid range jumpers by the refs. it'd be impossible to watch that 82 games a year.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:20 PM
westchuck limping?

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:21 PM
fuck Danny

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:21 PM
Green is off. Bench him.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:22 PM
lol Green calling for the ball. fuck you

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:22 PM
Spurs refuse to guard Ibaka

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Well shit...Parker turned his ankle

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Great, Tony hurt

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Well, ain't that a bitch?

HI-FI
11-27-2013, 09:23 PM
spearchucker is causing serious problems. looks like Heroball is hurt now.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Spurs refuse to guard Ibaka

In fairness, he's supposed to be a 54% shooter, not a 98% shooter

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:24 PM
Good..hes ok

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:25 PM
someone crucify Green and Pfag

irishock
11-27-2013, 09:25 PM
Wait, so a shitty game in Cleveland is nationally televised while this potential WCF match-up isn't? lol ESPN

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:26 PM
det pull-up :lol

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:26 PM
dammit

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:27 PM
Splitter :lol

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:27 PM
wtf was that

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:27 PM
come on hero

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:27 PM
:lol

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:28 PM
Spurs are playing like they've played a bunch of terrible teams. Was worried this would happen.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:28 PM
get the FUCK out Danny

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:28 PM
Turnobili

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:28 PM
ofcourse turnobili makes an appearance now... smh

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:29 PM
lol Manu not only turned the ball over but he kept it alive and produced the counter. :lol

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:29 PM
Spurs are playing like they've played a bunch of terrible teams. Was worried this would happen.

well, that's why the 13-1 cushion is nice

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:30 PM
Manu giveth...

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:30 PM
shit... missing right at the rim

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:30 PM
Fuck call the foul

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:31 PM
:rollin

td4mvp2k
11-27-2013, 09:31 PM
porkins wont fukn stop fouln

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:31 PM
thats a foul

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:32 PM
Spurs look like complete trash

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:32 PM
wtf what that flop? :lol

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:32 PM
You know what would be a good idea? Putting Penderfag in the game right now.

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:32 PM
here come thee fouls

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:33 PM
Manu

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:33 PM
Big shot

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:33 PM
Manu giveth

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:33 PM
fuckity fuck

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:34 PM
taketh, tbh

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:34 PM
Oohhh so close.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:34 PM
Can't believe it's a 4 point game... we're playing like shit

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 09:34 PM
Too many stupid mistakes/risks. Bench will determine the game from here tbh.

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:35 PM
We need Matty ice.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:35 PM
Can't believe it's a 4 point game... we're playing like shit

Spurs coasting, Refs playing like game 7 of the finals

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:35 PM
Spurs hanging in there despite looking like shit. Just keep it close and rely on the defense late.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:35 PM
Perderfag gonna show up and shut everyone up, tbh

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 09:36 PM
Can't believe it's a 4 point game... we're playing like shit

Combination of solid Spurs D and Westchimp doing what he does best.

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 09:36 PM
Can't believe it's a 4 point game... we're playing like shit

Combination of solid Spurs D and Westchimp doing what he does best.

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:36 PM
Can't believe it's a 4 point game... we're playing like shit

Ref,s the real ones not the thunder fucked em on two straight plays


And yay pendershit is in

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:36 PM
Perderfag gonna show up and shut everyone up, tbh

Grabbing a rebound in the next 5 minutes will not count as showing up tbh

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:37 PM
Leonard doing work on Durant

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:37 PM
well that was a dumb shot Manu

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:37 PM
not gonna get that call on the road

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:38 PM
I fucking hate it when Manu starts to force shit. Just chill man, damn.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:38 PM
still shooting 25% from 3

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:38 PM
Green back in? :lmao I give up

thunderup
11-27-2013, 09:38 PM
Stupid turnover.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:39 PM
did Belli get in the doghouse?

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:39 PM
Fuck you Lamb.

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:39 PM
Nothing going right. Would be a gift to win this one.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:39 PM
What the flying fuck is Penderfag doing at halfcourt while Boris is hustling inside?

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:40 PM
wow... a foul? really?

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:40 PM
shoot the shit

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:40 PM
fucking wasted a fucking possession there

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:41 PM
need to free the bombers.... red rocket and Belli

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:41 PM
thunderup sight, Thunder must be winning.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Ok. I'm bordering on blind, unadulterated hatred of Penderfag.

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:41 PM
:lol sages burning his suit :lol

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:42 PM
Let the foreign legion get us back in the game to start the 4th. Mills, Belli, Manu, Bonner and Boris.

HI-FI
11-27-2013, 09:42 PM
thunderup (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=35988) sight, Thunder must be winning.

:lol
I was about to post the same thing. it's his trademark.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:42 PM
paging Danny verde...

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:43 PM
:lol sages burning his suit :lol
:lol...great commercial. First time I've seen that one.

thunderup
11-27-2013, 09:43 PM
I like how everybody is chalking up the Spurs play as nothing going right for them when our perimeter defense is one of the more athletic and active.

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:44 PM
Bout damn time Danny

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:45 PM
:wow Manu

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:46 PM
told ya reggie was a faggot

Robz4000
11-27-2013, 09:46 PM
Game.

Amuseddaysleeper
11-27-2013, 09:47 PM
That's game

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:47 PM
wtf defense

HI-FI
11-27-2013, 09:47 PM
Favorable officiating + inbred methheads = not a good combination.

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:47 PM
Expected loss, tbh.

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:47 PM
fucking scrubs playing like they ain't shit, it was game when faggot fisher made that shot

td4mvp2k
11-27-2013, 09:47 PM
silverstars play betta D tbh

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:48 PM
we played like crap, tbh.... one of those games...

Trainwreck2100
11-27-2013, 09:48 PM
Favorable officiating + inbred methheads = not a good combination.

They got five days off between this game and their last one

thunderup
11-27-2013, 09:48 PM
:lol Spur fan usual butthurt about losing to the Thunder
:lol Not over 2012

DAF86
11-27-2013, 09:49 PM
I like how everybody is chalking up the Spurs play as nothing going right for them when our perimeter defense is one of the more athletic and active.

Your perimeter defense was great at making Spurs players miss wide open threes today.

jeebus
11-27-2013, 09:49 PM
we played like crap, tbh.... one of those games...

Pretty much. Thunder got extremely lucky they caught the Spurs playing a nonchalant game.

Plus Pfag ruined everything.

td4mvp2k
11-27-2013, 09:49 PM
I like how everybody is chalking up the Spurs play as nothing going right for them when our perimeter defense is one of the more athletic and active.

:monkey

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:50 PM
I like Manu's drives this season... he's been pretty good doing that

ElNono
11-27-2013, 09:50 PM
well, here comes Marco to win this game... yawn

benefactor
11-27-2013, 09:51 PM
Expected loss, tbh.
Yup...too much feasting on bad teams. These faggots aren't contenders anyway, so it's a non-issue. On to Mexico.