Danny Green continues to wet the bed in Oklahoma

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny Green AT OKC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43121)
Game 3 WCF - 3pts(1-3) , 4reb, 21 minutes
Game 4 WCF - 7pts (3-9) , 20 minutes
Game 6 WCF - 0pts(0-1), 4 minutes, Manu starts
11/27 - 4pts (2-7) , 4reb, 26 minutes

Smfh what is wrong with this dude?!

[PlayNando]

Yep. I said this at the beginning of the game after he clunked his first couple threes. Dude is DOA against OKC. Per par.

[Chinook]

Yeah, ignore him shooting 10-20 from three against the Thunder last season. Also ignore that his defense on Jackson was what sparked the late comeback attempt.

[Brunodf]

The bad thing is: on both ends

[thunderup]

Keep playing him yall. Only team he seems to like to play is Miami.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah, ignore him shooting 10-20 from three against the Thunder last season. Also ignore that his defense on Jackson was what sparked the late comeback attempt.

You called that defense? I call it falling for fakes 25 times

[Richie]

Yeah, ignore him shooting 10-20 from three against the Thunder last season. Also ignore that his defense on Jackson was what sparked the late comeback attempt.

This. OP is an idiot

[SpurPadre]

If we're gonna call out anybody, it would be TP constantly getting ass fucked by Sefolosha...but it's just one game. The team will move forward from this. All that matters is that we end the 82 game season as #1 seed and healthy.

[TheGreatYacht]

If we're gonna call out anybody, it would be TP constantly getting ass fucked by Sefolosha...but it's just one game. The team will move forward from this. All that matters is that we end the 82 game season as #1 seed and healthy.

Was playing good until he had tweaked his ankle a bit. Buy yeah that's the only thing that matters

[RD2191]

If we're gonna call out anybody, it would be TP constantly getting ass fucked by Sefolosha...but it's just one game. The team will move forward from this. All that matters is that we end the 82 game season as #1 seed and healthy.

[anakha]

OP cherry-picking stats, tbh

[Chinook]

You called that defense? I call it falling for fakes 25 times

You didn't see Jackson being unable to score the entire time Green was in during his last stint? He was a big reason OKC went without a bucket for that long stretch in the fourth quarter.

[ElNono]

I didn't think he was pushing the issue or taking bad shots, tbh... we just didn't have a strong presence inside tonight which makes it more difficult for the shooters to get some good looks...

I'm also wondering what are Danny's percentages on the road vs at home... I think he's a guy that feeds off the crowd...

[TheGreatYacht]

I didn't think he was pushing the issue or taking bad shots, tbh... we just didn't have a strong presence inside tonight which makes it more difficult for the shooters to get some good looks...

I'm also wondering what are Danny's percentages on the road vs at home... I think he's a guy that feeds off the crowd...

Road fg% has to be worse than Bonner's

[PlayNando]

Road fg% has to be worse than Bonner's
Last year he shot 49% at home and 41% on the road during the regular season. Last year, Matt Bonner shot 50% at home and 47.4% on the road, so, yes, you are correct.

[TheGoldStandard]

Danny's been real streaky and a non factor in most games.. By the time he gets going we've been up by a ton, tonight his defense kept him on the court.. They should have switched him on Jackson sooner, but that's on Pop.

[rascal]

Danny Green is nothing than a low level role player.

[TheGoldStandard]

Danny Green is nothing than a low level role player.
Who's a starter.

[DMC]

Why don't you just start a "game thoughts" thread instead of having a new thread every time you get a new thought?

[Baynes]

I hate the fact that we're relying too much on this dude.

For the past couple of years, a DG slump = loss.

fck that dude :depressed

[Ditty]

Yeah, ignore him shooting 10-20 from three against the Thunder last season. Also ignore that his defense on Jackson was what sparked the late comeback attempt.

[hyhy]

He only scores when we are up by 10 or so, no pressure baskets.

[ezau]

I expect Belinelli to replace DG as a starter later this year. Yeap, you can put that on record.

[racm]

:lol expecting a role player to show up on the road.

Green was nowhere in OKC. I expect Jackson not to show up when they play in SA.

[PlayNando]

He only scores when we are up by 10 or so, no pressure baskets.

[PlayNando]

Yeah, if you notice, almost all of his great games come in meaningless games where we nearly lead throughout. That would be fine if he were a guy that got 10 MPG, but he's a fkn starter, which is pathetic. We saw how he caved under pressure with his God awful pathetic, shameful performances in games 6 and 7 last year.

[ducks]

Danny Green is nothing than a low level role player.
spurs should have traded him offseason and sold high
he is just a catch and shot guy

[PlayNando]

spurs should have traded him offseason and sold high
he is just a catch and shot guy
Word...............

Ducks with the goods......... tbh.

[cd021]

He only scores when we are up by 10 or so, no pressure baskets.

joke?

[hater]

he's a 1 trick Pony. I've said it and I'll say it again. Trade high, his trade value was highest at the end of the Finals.

Sure he's a decent defender but the motherfucker cannot fucking dribble a fucking basketball. 1 trick pony that can be neutralized easily.

[hater]

spurs should have traded him offseason and sold high
he is just a catch and shot guy

I was asking for a trade when season started. dude is a 1 trick pony. I'm glad ducks, one of the smartest posters in the forum agrees 100% with me.

[weeks]

this didn't feel like a loss you can pin on any one person. pretty much everyone had moments that made you go WTF, from kawhi missing chippies to timmy passing to refs

[SpurSwag]

Everyone shut the fuck up lol it's like we're 2-13 or something. I swear even when we win 90% of the posts are trashing someone. Danny is being paid ~3 million annually and people expect him to be an elite shooter, lock down defensive player, good ball handler, and good finisher. News flash, players like that get paid a lot more than 3-4 million. He is a role player, but quite frankly one of the best in the league.

[SpurSwag]

And yeah I love how the OP has stats from his first ever WCF as a big contributor in one of the most raucous arenas in the league and then this one game. Like nothing happened at all last year

[cd021]

this didn't feel like a loss you can pin on any one person. pretty much everyone had moments that made you go WTF, from kawhi missing chippies to timmy passing to refs

I agree. Plus Pop's coaching was somewhat suspect at times.

[PlayNando]

It's pretty funny we have a GUARD that can't DRIBBLE. UNFKNBELIEVABLE. ISNT THAT HIS PRIMARY JOB?!?!?!?! I MEAN HOLY HELL ITS LIKE A HAIR DRESSER THAT CANT CUT HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cd021]

Everyone shut the fuck up lol it's like we're 2-13 or something. I swear even when we win 90% of the posts are trashing someone. Danny is being paid ~3 million annually and people expect him to be an elite shooter, lock down defensive player, good ball handler, and good finisher. News flash, players like that get paid a lot more than 3-4 million. He is a role player, but quite frankly one of the best in the league.

Logicical statements like this have no place on ST any more, apparently. Its like they want every role player to be able to do everything while getting payed a 4th of their market value. Green has outperformed his deal and people are still critical.

[cd021]

I was asking for a trade when season started. dude is a 1 trick pony. I'm glad ducks, one of the smartest posters in the forum agrees 100% with me.

3pt shooting and defense are apparently 1 trick now? At this point Kawhi is basically the same player, just bigger, longer and more athletic. He can't shoot like Green and neither can dribble.

[cd021]

I expect Belinelli to replace DG as a starter later this year. Yeap, you can put that on record.

Beli a starter on a elite defense team? its like you want us to lose. He is great off the bench. Green guards Westbrook, Curry, Wade, Ellis, Harden & Lillard I think we both know Beli can't.

[cd021]

It's pretty funny we have a GUARD that can't DRIBBLE. UNFKNBELIEVABLE. ISNT THAT HIS PRIMARY JOB?!?!?!?! I MEAN HOLY HELL ITS LIKE A HAIR DRESSER THAT CANT CUT HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have a small forward that isn't much better in the dribbling department and people on this thread think he is already a top 5 SF. At least Green hits 3's. Our starting lineup floor spacing would be nonexistent if he didn't.

[SpurSwag]

Logicical statements like this have no place on ST any more, apparently. Its like they want every role player to be able to do everything while getting payed a 4th of their market value. Green has outperformed his deal and people are still critical.

Green is a great bargain tbh

[james evans]

I was asking for a trade when season started. dude is a 1 trick pony. I'm glad ducks, one of the smartest posters in the forum agrees 100% with me.
i definitely agree. he's a taller version of steve kerr. leave a man on him at all times and he's worthless. u double team the paint and he looks like a superstar. i was really hopking in the off season he would learn how to put the ball on the floor and create for himself. what the fuk was he doing all summer?

[ElNono]

Trade him for who? Dude is making $3.7m this season... that's not even close to MLE money.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol NBA fans love overreacting after meaningless regular season losses, tbh..

[PlayNando]

We have a small forward that isn't much better in the dribbling department and people on this thread think he is already a top 5 SF. At least Green hits 3's. Our starting lineup floor spacing would be nonexistent if he didn't.
He's a forward. We're talking about a guard here......

But, yes, Leonard's lack of handles are holding him back from being an All-Star and he will never be one as long as he dribbles so poorly.

[cd021]

i definitely agree. he's a taller version of steve kerr. leave a man on him at all times and he's worthless. u double team the paint and he looks like a superstar. i was really hopking in the off season he would learn how to put the ball on the floor and create for himself. what the fuk was he doing all summer?
I think you're missing the point, Green forces his man to stay home. Keeping another defender from collapsing into the paint during drives or post ups. Even if he doesn't hit a 3 it has plenty of value. In game 6 Duncan was exclusively single covered and he exploded for 25 points in the 1st half.

Some players just don't have that skill to drive in the paint and shoot over big men. Its not like a grocery store where in the off season, one can go and pick up a post game and dominate next season. At this point he is what he is and does it very well (3 & D) asking for anymore for the salary we are paying him would be ludicrous.

Tony Allen couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and gets $5 million a season (helluva defender though) Green is the 5th most accurate (active) 3pt shooter in the NBA and makes less than $4 million. Neal can shoot and drive off up fakes, Green can't. Green can play defense and Neal can't.

[cd021]

He's a forward. We're talking about a guard here......

But, yes, Leonard's lack of handles are holding him back from being an All-Star and he will never be one as long as he dribbles so poorly.

It really doesn't matter a ton. If you play on the perimeter, one would think you could dribble a ball with passable coordination to a point on the floor and then shoot or pass.

[Bill_Brasky]

i remember my first NBA game too.

[dorrrr]

3pt shooting and defense are apparently 1 trick now? At this point Kawhi is basically the same player, just bigger, longer and more athletic. He can't shoot like Green and neither can dribble.

Kawhi can make a god damn lay up/dunk.

[Fireball]

This was the first game where he did get rather open shots and did not make them. In earlier games he either had None because he was defended tightly or he had plenty resulting in 15-20 Point games. Really depressing that it had to happen in the most important game of the season yet, but he did his parts in the Finals and therefore I hope he he will improve in Oklahoma as well. His defense should always be there though ...

[james evans]

I think you're missing the point, Green forces his man to stay home. Keeping another defender from collapsing into the paint during drives or post ups. Even if he doesn't hit a 3 it has plenty of value. In game 6 Duncan was exclusively single covered and he exploded for 25 points in the 1st half.

Some players just don't have that skill to drive in the paint and shoot over big men. Its not like a grocery store where in the off season, one can go and pick up a post game and dominate next season. At this point he is what he is and does it very well (3 & D) asking for anymore for the salary we are paying him would be ludicrous.

Tony Allen couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and gets $5 million a season (helluva defender though) Green is the 5th most accurate (active) 3pt shooter in the NBA and makes less than $4 million. Neal can shoot and drive off up fakes, Green can't. Green can play defense and Neal can't.
well what is practice for? jason kidd coulnd't shoot to save his life when he got to the league. almost 20 years later he's 3rd all time in 3 point field goals. (he's still not a GREAT shooter, but he shoots a hell of a lot better than he did in dalls and phoenix in the 90s). jordan wasn't a great shooter when he got to the league. neither was grant hill. repetition, muscle memory.. tiago splitter's freethrows got better last season. so yes, these things can happen over the course of a summer. he's an nba player. it's his job to work on his game 24/7. you're on the 3 pont line, man runs at u, u put the ball on the floor and go past him. larry bird, as slow as he was, made a living out of doing that. u want me to believe larry bird was faster than danny green?

[cd021]

Kawhi can make a god damn lay up/dunk.

And Green can't? ironically a couple of seasons ago he stole an inbound pass and took it coast to coast for a dunk that sealed a win against OKC at OKC. It was the last time we won in that building.

neither can dribble very well. Leonard is a can be better the defender of the two (when focused) but Green is the superior shooter.

[cd021]

well what is practice for? jason kidd coulnd't shoot to save his life when he got to the league. almost 20 years later he's 3rd all time in 3 point field goals. (he's still not a GREAT shooter, but he shoots a hell of a lot better than he did in dalls and phoenix in the 90s). jordan wasn't a great shooter when he got to the league. neither was grant hill. repetition, muscle memory.. tiago splitter's freethrows got better last season. so yes, these things can happen over the course of a summer. he's an nba player. it's his job to work on his game 24/7. you're on the 3 pont line, man runs at u, u put the ball on the floor and go past him. larry bird, as slow as he was, made a living out of doing that. u want me to believe larry bird was faster than danny green?

Those examples were of shooting the ball. Kidd still (in his 2nd Dallas stint) would literally pass up wide, and i mean 5-7 feet of space, 3pt shots. Some of that is simply playing long enough and shooting well enough to finish amongst the elite. He isn't even a top 10 3pt shooter in about any ones book but ranks 3rd in league history in total 3's.

None of those examples of a player actually learning how to improve his handles 5 seasons in the league and attack the heart of a defense. There's a difference from a few dribble drills, and up faking a defender and driving while 3 defenders are in the area and finishing above or maneuvering through them to the rim. Green has at least become better at pull up jumpers after an up fake.

Its shocking how many people expect so much more than his salary. He is a 3 and D player who is among the best in the league at the role and getting paid slightly below market value for his services. Surprise, Surprise, its not good enough for ST.

[Skull-1]

It's pretty funny we have a GUARD that can't DRIBBLE. UNFKNBELIEVABLE. ISNT THAT HIS PRIMARY JOB?!?!?!?! I MEAN HOLY HELL ITS LIKE A HAIR DRESSER THAT CANT CUT HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or a poster who can't write but can "relieve history". :lmao

[Kidd K]

You guys have really warped senses of expectation if you're this pissed that a mere role player didn't shit all over the best team in the west that isn't our team.

So what if he doesn't have great handles? The fuck do you expect from a very low salary role player that defends well and has the best 3pt% in the history of the Spurs franchise? Danny Green is excellent for what he costs and if you wanted a better player than him that can handle the ball well and shoot and defend like him it would cost several times as much. Those dudes are called "stars", which Danny Green isn't.

If Green could handle the ball that well and finish at the rim and shit he'd probably be getting 15m a year somewhere. Quit bitching about our best role players and acting like they're supposed to do the job our higher salary SGs aren't doing. Green isn't paid to be one of our best players, he's paid to do what he normally does.

Dude is 9th on the all time career 3pt% list in NBA history and climbing, takes and makes a lot of them per game (not just some 8 minute specialist like Bonner), D's up well, and is paid next to nothing. Stop whining about the times Danny Green doesn't do well. He isn't meant to carry a team.

[Chinook]

Green is the Spurs'all-time leading three-point shooter by percentage. He's also posting the highest defensive efficiency on the team. I don't think people realize how much Green had been dominating his match up this year.

[Brazil]

tiago splitter's freethrows got better last season.

you found stuff like that that has been corrected over and over but no... tiago was a bad FT when he arrived and he worked and improved...when in fact it is Tiago has always been an ok FTs shooter during his carreer and had an off year when he arrived. He is just now shooting what he was shooting his whole carreer

[james evans]

Those examples were of shooting the ball. Kidd still (in his 2nd Dallas stint) would literally pass up wide, and i mean 5-7 feet of space, 3pt shots. Some of that is simply playing long enough and shooting well enough to finish amongst the elite. He isn't even a top 10 3pt shooter in about any ones book but ranks 3rd in league history in total 3's.

None of those examples of a player actually learning how to improve his handles 5 seasons in the league and attack the heart of a defense. There's a difference from a few dribble drills, and up faking a defender and driving while 3 defenders are in the area and finishing above or maneuvering through them to the rim. Green has at least become better at pull up jumpers after an up fake.

Its shocking how many people expect so much more than his salary. He is a 3 and D player who is among the best in the league at the role and getting paid slightly below market value for his services. Surprise, Surprise, its not good enough for ST.
i don't expect him to be michael jordan or dwade, i expect him to be able to pump fake, drive to the basket and make a layup.is that too much to expect from someone that played high school, 4 years of college at one of the top universities ever, and is currently playing nba basketball? and i'm not trying to shit on you, i'm being serious. he's paid to play basketball. it's his job. he's a 2g. jj reddick does it and i don't think reddick is better than green overall. gary neal does it. he did it in game 5 of that memphis series a couple years ago when he tied the game up on that 3 pointer. pump fake, go around defender, and shoot the ball. why is this hard to master?

[spursince#99]

You guys defending Danny Green are pathetic. He is beyond awful at simple basketball fundamentals such as dribbling a basketball inside and finishing at the rim. I can guarantee you there's a D-League player, which Danny Green was, that can do that AND some more as well as shooting a high percentage from 3. I'm Tired of seeing this guy jumping 6 feet in the air past his man. This guy doesn't deserve the credit he's getting, and that Finals performance was a damn fluke, see games 6 & 7. If we don't improve somehow via trade or buyout we're not going to the Finals, and it's as simple as that. We need another guy who can create his own shot, and no it doesn't have to be an All-Star. There are role players capable of this skill. However, Kawhi also needs a backup. I hope the inability to sign needs didn't prematurely determine the fate of our season. Hell Omri Casspi would've been the perfect backup for Kawhi but what do I know. I know that if we don't shake up this roster we're doomed. I know that much.

[Chinook]

You guys defending Danny Green are pathetic. He is beyond awful at simple basketball fundamentals such as dribbling a basketball inside and finishing at the rim. I can guarantee you there's a D-League player, which Danny Green was, that can do that AND some more as well as shooting a high percentage from 3. I'm Tired of seeing this guy jumping 6 feet in the air past his man. This guy doesn't deserve the credit he's getting, and that Finals performance was a damn fluke, see games 6 & 7. If we don't improve somehow via trade or buyout we're not going to the Finals, and it's as simple as that. We need another guy who can create his own shot, and no it doesn't have to be an All-Star. There are role players capable of this skill. However, Kawhi also needs a backup. I hope the inability to sign needs didn't prematurely determine the fate of our season. Hell Omri Casspi would've been the perfect backup for Kawhi but what do I know. I know that if we don't shake up this roster we're doomed. I know that much.
You should probably change your name to Spursince#13, you don't understand the value of 3-and-D players to the Spurs' past titles.

You also should learn about the game so that you understand that Green jumping at his man to make him settle for a long two instead of a three is actually the smart play. It's what players have been doing to him this year, and it's what's making Danny struggle offensively.

[spursince#99]

You should probably change your name to Spursince#13, you don't understand the value of 3-and-D players to the Spurs' past titles.

You also should learn about the game so that you understand that Green jumping at his man to make him settle for a long two instead of a three is actually the smart play. It's what players have been doing to him this year, and it's what's making Danny struggle offensively.

No offense but you're dumb as shit. Where in that post does it hint to you that I know nothing of a 3 & D player? Danny Green is NOT the only capable 3 & D player in the NBA or the D-League. You're also dumb because you're defending him for jumping 6 feet in the air when in actuality, if you ever really played basketball you'd know you allow 3 inches of room so you don't foul and so your man don't drive and kick with a 5 on 4 advantage which STILL leads to an open 3. You're also dumb because you're defending it when he was jumping 6 feet in the air when his man WAS INSIDE OF THE 3-POINT LINE!!!. Go watch some film and learn some basketball fundamentals.

[Kidd K]

For those who still don't seem to grasp the concept of what Danny Green is good despite the lack of handles, let me put it to you this way:

Of all the backup roleplayer SGs there are in the NBA who can handle the ball and finish at the rim as well as you wish Danny Green would. . .how many of them shoot threes like like and defend as well as he does too?

The correct answer is "nobody". You don't get all three at a semi high or very high level out of a role player. The players who can do all that at once are stars and they get paid far more than Danny Green does. Danny Green is not a star. Stop expecting low salary role players to play like stars because you're just always going to be pissed and disappointed for the rest of your life due to delusional expectations.

Green is doing a fine job in his role which is to defend and hit threes. He is basically the SG version of Bonner. if Bonner was a lot more athletic, actually a good defender, and could hit threes with guys in his face too, not just while wide open. Only he's cheaper. Think about it. How is that a bad thing?

In terms of salary to production ratio, he's arguably #1 on the team. You should be glad he's as good as he is, not be bitching he doesn't do more. Your guys' complaints are very misguided and being directed at the wrong players imo.

[spursince#99]

For those who still don't seem to grasp the concept of what Danny Green is good despite the lack of handles, let me put it to you this way:

Of all the backup roleplayer SGs there are in the NBA who can handle the ball and finish at the rim as well as you wish Danny Green would. . .how many of them shoot threes like like and defend as well as he does too?

The correct answer is "nobody". You don't get all three at a semi high or very high level out of a role player. The players who can do all that at once are stars and they get paid far more than Danny Green does. Danny Green is not a star. Stop expecting low salary role players to play like stars because you're just always going to be pissed and disappointed for the rest of your life due to delusional expectations.

Green is doing a fine job in his role which is to defend and hit threes. He is basically the SG version of Bonner. if Bonner was a lot more athletic, actually a good defender, and could hit threes with guys in his face too, not just while wide open. Only he's cheaper. Think about it. How is that a bad thing?

In terms of salary to production ratio, he's arguably #1 on the team. You should be glad he's as good as he is, not be bitching he doesn't do more. Your guys' complaints are very misguided and being directed at the wrong players imo.


Meh I'd much rather have a subpar 3 point shooter who can defend as well as drive and finish at the rim. In this offense he'd have much better looks which will most likely boost his percentages especially if he has the capability to drive to the rim.

[spursince#99]

Oh yeah and btw, Danny Green is the slowest guard I've ever seen moving laterally and that's WITHOUT the basketball. He really lacks much needed athleticism.

[Chinook]

No offense but you're dumb as shit. Where in that post does it hint to you that I know nothing of a 3 & D player? Danny Green is NOT the only capable 3 & D player in the NBA or the D-League. You're also dumb because you're defending him for jumping 6 feet in the air when in actuality, if you ever really played basketball you'd know you allow 3 inches of room so you don't foul and so your man don't drive and kick with a 5 on 4 advantage which STILL leads to an open 3. You're also dumb because you're defending it when he was jumping 6 feet in the air when his man WAS INSIDE OF THE 3-POINT LINE!!!. Go watch some film and learn some basketball fundamentals.

As I said, you need to learn about basketball. Green made the right play by closing out. You want them to dribble past you and take a low-percentage two over a corner three. A soft hedge still allows a shot. Obviously, Green isn't jumping six feet in the air, so stop questioning anyone's intellect. He was closing out after covering the lane. That's what you have to do in that situation. If he sticks three inches from his man like you suggests he can't help in the paint.

Green isn't the only 3-and-D player in the league, but he may well be the best. He also has great lateral quickness, which allowed him to shut down Jackson in the fourth. It's like you're looking for dumb things to say.

[spursince#99]

As I said, you need to learn about basketball. Green made the right play by closing out. You want them to dribble past you and take a low-percentage two over a corner three. A soft hedge still allows a shot. Obviously, Green isn't jumping six feet in the air, so stop questioning anyone's intellect. He was closing out after covering the lane. That's what you have to do in that situation. If he sticks three inches from his man like you suggests he can't help in the paint.

Green isn't the only 3-and-D player in the league, but he may well be the best. He also has great lateral quickness, which allowed him to shut down Jackson in the fourth. It's like you're looking for dumb things to say.


I would go back and forth with you but it's clear you've never played organized basketball before in your life. Continue to watch from your couch. Like how on earth could he help in the paint when he's taken himself out of the play by dramatically jumping at his man? Lol carry on.

[Chinook]

I would go back and forth with you but it's clear you've never played organized basketball before in your life. Continue to watch from your couch. Like how on earth could he help in the paint when he's taken himself out of the play by dramatically jumping at his man? Lol carry on.

Idiot. He helped in the paint BEFORE the pass to the corner. That's why he had to close out. It's not like Green jumped past his man as he brought the ball up the court. Do you even know what a drive-and-kick is? The driver drives into the lane, forces help from the corner, and passes to the open man. In the cases you're talking about, Green had to recover because he was helping on Westbrook's penetration. That's what he has to do. In fact, Green gets most of his shots due to his man helping on Parker's penetration.

[exstatic]

Didn't see it mentioned but apparently, Scott Brooks thinks a lot more of Green than most posters here. He covered him with Thabo, even when Tony was in the game. That's a poison he will have to pick in the playoffs. If he really tries to cover Tony with Westbrook, Tony could go absolutely wild.

[Chinook]

Didn't see it mentioned but apparently, Scott Brooks thinks a lot more of Green than most posters here. He covered him with Thabo, even when Tony was in the game. That's a poison he will have to pick in the playoffs. If he really tries to cover Tony with Westbrook, Tony could go absolutely wild.

Happened with Memphis and Allen and with Golden State and Thompson. If teams continue to do that and Leonard becomes consistent offensively, teams won't be able to hide players like Harden and Curry either.

[anakha]

I can guarantee you there's a D-League player, which Danny Green was, that can do that AND some more as well as shooting a high percentage from 3.

Kindly provide a list of these players in the D-League.

[Kidd K]

Meh I'd much rather have a subpar 3 point shooter who can defend as well as drive and finish at the rim. In this offense he'd have much better looks which will most likely boost his percentages especially if he has the capability to drive to the rim.

A player like that alongside Parker would be an epic waste of floor spacing. The opposing team could pack the paint since at that point the only 3pt shooter on the floor in the starting lineup would be Leonard who is very streaky from three. Then Duncan, Splitter, and Parker have a harder time scoring because one of the wings sucks from three and the other is just decent.

It's a pretty delicate balance. Two bigs, two 3pt shooters, and one ballhandling/slasher (Parker). When you go two slashers, two bigs, one 3pt shooter. . .it just doesn't work nearly as well.

Trust me, Green is an excellent fit. It'd be nice if he could handle the ball better and slash, but as I said. . .if he could he'd probably be getting paid somewhere in the realm of 8-12 mil, not 3 1/2m. He is great for his pricetag. Literally one of 5 players I would deem untouchable if I was the GM of the Spurs. Cost to performance ratio is more important than performance alone man. Especially for a team with a limited budget like the Spurs. You gotta think a little bit bigger.

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A player like that alongside Parker would be an epic waste of floor spacing. The opposing team could pack the paint since at that point the only 3pt shooter on the floor in the starting lineup would be Leonard who is very streaky from three. Then Duncan, Splitter, and Parker have a harder time scoring because one of the wings sucks from three and the other is just decent.

It's a pretty delicate balance. Two bigs, two 3pt shooters, and one ballhandling/slasher (Parker). When you go two slashers, two bigs, one 3pt shooter. . .it just doesn't work nearly as well.

Trust me, Green is an excellent fit. It'd be nice if he could handle the ball better and slash, but as I said. . .if he could he'd probably be getting paid somewhere in the realm of 8-12 mil, not 3 1/2m. He is great for his pricetag. Literally one of 5 players I would deem untouchable if I was the GM of the Spurs. Cost to performance ratio is more important than performance alone man. Especially for a team with a limited budget like the Spurs. You gotta think a little bit bigger.

The goods. The Spurs continually get guys on less than MLE deals that have PERs that hover around 15, which is the NBA average. The MLE is the NBA average salary, so they get more production that they pay for.

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Green is fine. OP, it's November.