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monosylab1k
12-03-2013, 10:05 AM
There are only two legitimately bad teams in the West (Kings and Jazz). Everyone else is within a game of .500 or better.

Meanwhile in the East there are only two legitimately good teams :lmao

monosylab1k
12-03-2013, 10:06 AM
The Wizards have the 3rd best record in the East at 9-9 :rollin

Rogue
12-03-2013, 10:23 AM
The Heat are dominating with Pacers being the only challenger, so the other eastern teams are just quitting tbh.

Darth_Pelican
12-03-2013, 10:58 AM
The Pelicans would currently be the #3 seed in the East at 9-8. They are the #10 seed in the West.

skmblz
12-03-2013, 11:18 AM
time to abolish the whole eastern western conference playoff system??

kamikazi_player
12-03-2013, 11:28 AM
It is sad when the 6-10 raptors team leads their division.

resistanze
12-03-2013, 11:35 AM
It is sad when the 6-10 raptors team leads their division.

:lol That's fucking shameful. Terrible, terrible teams.

Although I would put the Heat, Pacers above any team in the West (except the Spurs). And no, fuck the Blazers.

Holden_Caulfield
12-03-2013, 12:26 PM
It is sad when the 6-10 raptors team leads their division.
:lmao, division winners are guaranteed a playoff spot regardless of their shitty record right?

Jodelo
12-03-2013, 12:33 PM
:lmao, division winners are guaranteed a playoff spot regardless of their shitty record right?

Even better: Division winners are guaranteed of a 1-4 seed. Homecourt can switch, though.

Stabula
12-03-2013, 12:59 PM
time to abolish the whole eastern western conference playoff system??

Absolutely. The whole idea of dividing teams between East and West is entirely arbitrary and maintaining it at this point would only be detrimental to the league.

Mugen
12-03-2013, 01:05 PM
:lol Heat and Pacers going to rack up 65+ wins this season playing against the East tbh

Clipper Nation
12-03-2013, 01:08 PM
Absolutely. The whole idea of dividing teams between East and West is entirely arbitrary and maintaining it at this point would only be detrimental to the league.
The NBA should ditch the East/West format and change to a baseball/football-style alignment, tbh.... just have an "American" conference and a "National" conference, tbh....

Trainwreck2100
12-03-2013, 01:30 PM
time to abolish the whole eastern western conference playoff system??

Can't, the east teams on top would have inflated records due to playing shorty teams 4,times a year instead of 2

Trainwreck2100
12-03-2013, 01:35 PM
The NBA should ditch the East/West format and change to a baseball/football-style alignment, tbh.... just have an "American" conference and a "National" conference, tbh....

Football has 16 games a year, NBA has 82, have to take travel into account

RsxPiimp
12-03-2013, 01:38 PM
time to abolish the whole eastern western conference playoff system??

Agree. Its stupid IMO. Put the best 16 teams in the playoffs regardless of conference. I don't like the idea of say Minnesota, New Orleans and the Lakers missing post season action only to see the Bobcats and Chicago make it due to that stupid conference accord.

mudyez
12-03-2013, 03:34 PM
Absolutely. The whole idea of dividing teams between East and West is entirely arbitrary and maintaining it at this point would only be detrimental to the league.

I don't have a problem with it. I rather have 2 teams feud every year in the same conference final, than keeping those rivalrys from happening.

irishock
12-03-2013, 04:10 PM
49-win 08 Warriors missing the playoffs, but 37-win Hawks making it :lmao

Mal
12-03-2013, 04:49 PM
Agree. Its stupid IMO. Put the best 16 teams in the playoffs regardless of conference. I don't like the idea of say Minnesota, New Orleans and the Lakers missing post season action only to see the Bobcats and Chicago make it due to that stupid conference accord.

Chicago is well coached team. Not their fault that Rose rushed his comeback.

Spurs da champs
12-03-2013, 04:50 PM
49-win 08 Warriors missing the playoffs, but 37-win Hawks making it :lmao

And they took the Celts to 7 games. :lol

resistanze
12-03-2013, 06:06 PM
Can't, the east teams on top would have inflated records due to playing shorty teams 4,times a year instead of 2

There's only 2 good teams in the East anyways. And the Heat were 25-5 against the West last year. But I guess you're saying they'd have to rearrange the games, which is true.

I don't think it's a big deal, that's the price of having more talent in the West. How many stars are in the East, seriously?

Arcadian
12-03-2013, 07:01 PM
You're confusing "stacked" with "competitive."

"Stacked" implies that there are lots of good/great teams that are all playoff contenders. This really isn't the case, as only 3 or 4 teams have a chance at making the Finals.

"Competitive" means there are lots of teams of roughly the same quality, which results in everyone having a similar record. Same quality doesn't mean high quality, though. There are just a lot of mediocre teams in the West. The East, by contrast, is much less competitive. Two teams are taking the lion's share of wins, and the rest simply can't keep afloat.

monosylab1k
12-03-2013, 08:01 PM
"Stacked" implies that there are lots of good/great teams that are all playoff contenders. This really isn't the case, as only 3 or 4 teams have a chance at making the Finals.

You're confusing "making the playoffs" with "making the Finals". The West is absolutely stacked. There's 13 playoff quality teams in the West. There's maybe 4 in the East, depending on how Chicago responds to another Rose injury. In the West there's no margin for error. You have to bring your a-game every night or else you'll be on the outside looking in. Teams will cannibalize each other in the West. A 40 win team in the West is easily a 50 win team with an Eastern Conference creampuff schedule. Just because teams like Dallas or Minnesota or the Lakers aren't title contenders doesn't mean the West is not stacked. They would easily be 3rd best in the East. When one side had that many quality teams and the other doesn't even have 1/3 as many, then that one side is most definitely "stacked".

Stabula
12-03-2013, 08:12 PM
The West is not 'stacked' the East is just a complete and utter disaster. The NBA is in a sorry state in general.

HI-FI
12-03-2013, 08:15 PM
This has to be one of the worst years ever for the East, and that's saying something. the owners in the West should seriously think about having revenue sharing amongst the themselves, cut out the Eastern owners. Of course I'm sure they would like to share in that Russian billionaire money so perhaps not. Still the East is basically like urban ghettos living off welfare at this point.

the West will have some great playoff games while the Heat will have an escalator ride to the Finals while sticking PEDs in each others asses. Sucks but that's the way it is.

Also new CBA has helped out the West, Presti being forced to figure out something with Harden has helped out Houston while OKC is still competitive. Meanwhile the East can't figure out shit.

Venti Quattro
12-03-2013, 08:47 PM
The East is so bad that the Lakers would have a playoff position in the East :lmao

Splits
12-03-2013, 08:53 PM
The East is so bad that the Lakers would have a playoff position in the East :lmao

They'll make the POs in the West, MVPau won't have it any other way.

Arcadian
12-04-2013, 01:07 AM
You're confusing "making the playoffs" with "making the Finals". The West is absolutely stacked. There's 13 playoff quality teams in the West. There's maybe 4 in the East, depending on how Chicago responds to another Rose injury. In the West there's no margin for error. You have to bring your a-game every night or else you'll be on the outside looking in. Teams will cannibalize each other in the West. A 40 win team in the West is easily a 50 win team with an Eastern Conference creampuff schedule. Just because teams like Dallas or Minnesota or the Lakers aren't title contenders doesn't mean the West is not stacked. They would easily be 3rd best in the East. When one side had that many quality teams and the other doesn't even have 1/3 as many, then that one side is most definitely "stacked".

When half of all NBA teams make the playoffs every year, making the playoffs is not much of an achievement. It just means you're in the top half* of the conference. :lol

To me, being stacked does mean having many teams that could potentially win the conference title. I think the NBA is pretty weak/diluted/stratified overall. It's just that one conference is significantly more so.

It's like the East is so shitty, it's making the West look better than it really is by comparison.

*Technically, 8 out of 15 teams from each conference make the playoffs, which is more than half. :lol

Phillip
12-04-2013, 01:12 AM
i think the competition will even out a bit as the season goes on. the east had a bad break with Rose getting hurt again, as well as the Nets being so unexpectedly horrible. and some of these west teams are going to drop back a bit soon. west is still definitely better top to bottom, but the records right now are just bizzare