Jeff Ayres..

[HarlemHeat37]

This nigga is REALLY good at basketball, tbh:lol..

[td4mvp2k]

betta den bonner tbh

[DMC]

I expected to see this thread when I came here. Spurs deserve to be blown out when they play this dipshit. He's D-league, tons of athleticism, no skills, none. Genetically gifted below the neck, not above.

[DMC]

betta den bonner tbh

No he's not. Bonner hit 2 threes. Ayres cannot hit a fucking wide open layup.

[Harry Callahan]

Piece of Trash. Can't play.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah can't defend him anymore.

It's saying something when Nando looks better.

[td4mvp2k]

No he's not. Bonner hit 2 threes. Ayres cannot hit a fucking wide open layup.
ya cuz bonner makes every open layup...

[timtonymanu]

betta den bonner tbh

Dumb post. Bonner is at least a rotation player in the regular season.

[KaiRMD1]

Shouldn't have changed his name.

[DMC]

ya cuz bonner makes every open layup...

ya cuz Jeff Errors hits the 3.

[justinandimcool]

Would rather have Nando as a backup center tbh

[spurraider21]

ginobili was a +5 in 18 minutes

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I was hoping that Tiago would take more back-up center minutes since he signed that big contract but he's playing even less than last year. Wouldn't have to see Ayres, but I guess Tiago is too fragile.

[td4mvp2k]

ya cuz Jeff Errors hits the 3.dont have to tbh

[ace3g]

Yeah I thought he would be decent at PnR midrange shooter and grab some boards but.....

I hope Malcolm Thomas is showing something in practice.

[jeebus]

I'd rather see the rotting corpse of a dead Colombian hooker get minutes instead of Penderfaggot.

[td4mvp2k]

Dumb post. Bonner is at least a rotation player in the regular season.

dum fan... cuz ayers aint...

[DapDaGenius]

ya cuz Jeff Errors hits the 3.

LOL Jeff Errors.

I don't know if I like Jeff Airs or Jeff Errors better. Both are pretty funny and accurate.

[ace3g]

Another issue with Ayres, like Bonner, he is too mechanical "tries to do the right thing" instead of making things happen with what is given to you on both sides of the court.

[ginobilized]

Jeff Errs, too often

[DMC]

dont have to tbh

cuz Bonner is a renowned post player

[DMC]

Another issue with Ayres, like Bonner, is too mechanical "tries to do the right thing" instead of making things happen with what is given to you on both sides of the court.

This is true. They have no feel for the game.

[Aus10]

Malcolm Thomas, Aron Baynes > Jeff Ayres

[MaNu4Tres]

Unfortunate, but R.C and Pop whiffed on this one.

One of the worst players I've seen play in the league thus far this year.

Hopefully Malcolm Thomas can salvage this.

[DMC]

Malcolm Thomas, Aron Baynes > Jeff Ayres

The three of them = decent D-league squad. None of them are shit in the NBA.

[cd021]

ya cuz bonner makes every open layup...

Yeah... cause Bonner goes pick and roll every time. His job is to hit 3's and he does it well. Ayers finishing ablities is suspect at best.

[td4mvp2k]

cuz Bonner is a renowned post player

:lol

[Mugen]

Nig needs to change his name back tbh

[cd021]

Malcolm Thomas, Aron Baynes > Jeff Ayres

Ayers is better than Baynes. That much is clear. Thomas was in the D league for a reason. People making him in the savior. Last season it was Baynes.

[jeebus]

Ayers is better than Baynes. That much is clear.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

[td4mvp2k]

Yeah... cause Bonner goes pick and roll every time. His job is to hit 3's and he does it well. Ayers finishing ablities is suspect at best....

[cd021]

ginobili was a +5 in 18 minutes

Jumper looked great.

[Libri]

Ayers is better than Baynes. That much is clear. Thomas was in the D league for a reason. People making him in the savior. Last season it was Baynes.

Thomas is the Savior version 18.

[cd021]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

I've seen absolutely nothing from Baynes. Its not like he brings a skill to the table. Its not like he blocks shots or boards like Reggie Evans. He's seems more likely to foul than doing something positive on defense.

Ayers at least is mobile and hustles up and down the floor. He could become a serviceable defender. long arms, athletic. The ability is there.

[Seventyniner]

Jeff "Putting On" Ayers

[Aus10]

Ayers is better than Baynes. That much is clear.

I call bullshit...

[KL2]

Unfortunate, but R.C and Pop whiffed on this one.

One of the worst players I've seen play in the league thus far this year.

Hopefully Malcolm Thomas can salvage this.


If I remember correctly it was SA's new assistant coach, Jim Boylen (formerly an assistant coach on IND), that wanted them to acquire Ayres. Without him they probably pass on JA.

[cd021]

Thomas is the Savior version 18.

We shall see if he can crack the rotation. I'm not saying he can't. Outside of Duncan, Diaw and Twilight, the other 3 each has flaws that currently keep them from being everyday rotation players.

[cd021]

I call bullshit...

Please explain why Baynes is a better player...

[jeebus]

Ayers at least is mobile and hustles up and down the floor. He could become a serviceable defender. long arms, athletic. The ability is there.
no, it's not there. it hasn't been there all season, it wasn't there in Indiana, and it's not going to magically appear there any time soon. He can't defend, he can't block shots, he can't shoot, he can't dunk, he can't make a layup, he can't pass, he can't catch passes, he gets buttfucked in the paint by everyone, and the Spurs lose all momentum when this scrub gets on the court.

yeah, he's mobile aka he has use of his arms and legs. and he hustles up and down the floor? that's what you do in basketball unless your name is Andrew Bynum. Face it, Airs sucks donkey dick.

[Johnny RIngo]

I expected to see this thread when I came here. Spurs deserve to be blown out when they play this dipshit. He's D-league, tons of athleticism, no skills, none. Genetically gifted below the neck, not above.

I'm not even sure his athleticism is all that great either. Ayres missed five dunks in one game. Not to mention, he tore his ACL in his rookie season.

[justinandimcool]

Where is Kurt Thomas? The Bonner/Bogans/Finley hate was fun. This name-changing assclown, I truly cannot stand.

[Aus10]

First round. 2013 NBA Playoffs against the Los Angeles Lakers.

[Aus10]

Please explain why Baynes is a better player...

First round. 2013 NBA Playoffs against the Los Angeles Lakers...

[HarlemHeat37]

Baynes has never impressed me, tbh, his potential is Aaron Gray, but at this point, players like Baynes and even Thomas should see a few spot minutes if Ayres continues to struggle, tbh..

I don't expect anything from any of these scrubs, but if Ayres continues to struggle, Pop should be open to trying alternatives IMO..he isn't nearly good enough to have a designated spot in the rotation over anybody on an NBA roster, tbh..

[timtonymanu]

Where is Kurt Thomas? The Bonner/Bogans/Finley hate was fun. This name-changing assclown, I truly cannot stand.

Don't forget Roger Mason Jr. It was fun hating on him too.

[TD 21]

They clearly need to package some of the boat load of bums populating the back end of their roster, along with some combination of overseas rights/picks, for a player of at least some level of significance.

Baynes definitely isn't the answer and even in the unlikely event Thomas is, he more than likely won't get the chance to show it anyway. The answer to backup center is Splitter. He needs to be the third big; Duncan's backup and sometimes partner in certain match-ups. The starting PF needs to be either Diaw or some combo forward type acquired via trade. They won't pursue guys like Young, Green or Chandler, because of their contracts, but at least M. Williams then or someone of that ilk. Enough of this big, clunky, late 90s/early 00s style rotation.

[cd021]

First round. 2013 NBA Playoffs against the Los Angeles Lakers...

I call bullshit from the mountain tops. He started game 4 (we had won the first 3 games by 15 points) He can defend Dwight Howard with the Spurs sagging off the 3pt line to help that alone makes him better? let that lapse of logic sink in. He went back at Dwight it doesn't make him the 4th best big on the team.

[cd021]

I'm not even sure his athleticism is all that great either. Ayres missed five dunks in one game. Not to mention, he tore his ACL in his rookie season.

I think Draft Express clocked it at 32 inches. Not bad at all. He missed 5 dunks in a game against the Wizards and its becoming about of his narrative?

[Johnny RIngo]

I think Draft Express clocked it at 32 inches. Not bad at all. He missed 5 dunks in a game against the Wizards and its becoming about of his narrative?

Torn ACL in right knee a few years back.

[cd021]

I'm not even sure his athleticism is all that great either. Ayres missed five dunks in one game. Not to mention, he tore his ACL in his rookie season.

I think Draft Express clocked it at 32 inches. Not bad at all. He missed 5 dunks in a game against the Wizards and its becoming about of his narrative?

[cd021]

Torn ACL in right knee a few years back.

Yes, but still fairly athletic. I guess it doesn't matter all that much now...

[cd021]

They clearly need to package some of the boat load of bums populating the back end of their roster, along with some combination of overseas rights/picks, for a player of at least some level of significance.

Baynes definitely isn't the answer and even in the unlikely event Thomas is, he more than likely won't get the chance to show it anyway. The answer to backup center is Splitter. He needs to be the third big; Duncan's backup and sometimes partner in certain match-ups. The starting PF needs to be either Diaw or some combo forward type acquired via trade. They won't pursue guys like Young, Green or Chandler, because of their contracts, but at least M. Williams then or someone of that ilk. Enough of this big, clunky, late 90s/early 00s style rotation.

I agree. Diaw to start and go small off the bench with Splitter. Splitter could still log 25 mpg playing behind Duncan and playing along side of him, Leonard could play most of the backup minutes with Bonner or Ayers getting less than 10 minutes in certain games. We need Leonard to get going against opposing second units. He seems to struggle with Parker on the floor (him being aggressive off the dribble).

Duncan 28 mpg
Diaw-28 mpg
Splitter -25
Leonard + Bonner/ Ayers-15 mpg

I'd be in favor of getting Al Aminu. He is on a 1 year deal (I believe for 6 million) He is technically a wing but plays more like a PF. Long, Athletic and boards very well. Maybe Chip can make him into a respectable 3pt shooter. The problem is that they'd want a big and Baynes, Bonner or Ayers likely won't cut it.

[cd021]

Baynes has never impressed me, tbh, his potential is Aaron Gray, but at this point, players like Baynes and even Thomas should see a few spot minutes if Ayres continues to struggle, tbh..

I don't expect anything from any of these scrubs, but if Ayres continues to struggle, Pop should be open to trying alternatives IMO..he isn't nearly good enough to have a designated spot in the rotation over anybody on an NBA roster, tbh..

This ^^^^

[MaNu4Tres]

Every one of the top 8-9 players in the rotation simply needs to play better. The only player of the relevant bunch playing better than last year is Diaw.

Once that happens, we will forget about the POS acquisition,tbh.

[objective]

Ayres is a slightly slower Francisco Elson without the scoring.

No wonder Pop loves him.

[Chomag]

I guess his name change didn't help like he wanted it too.

[rick1991]

Why can't baynes get a real chance. At least he is goes up strong under the rim.

[Libri]

We shall see if he can crack the rotation. I'm not saying he can't. Outside of Duncan, Diaw and Twilight, the other 3 each has flaws that currently keep them from being everyday rotation players.

Since Malcolm is a D-League player I'm not expecting much but I'm still in favor of them trying out players.

[ElNono]

Tiago being hurt actually accentuates his (and Bonner) minutes... but, this if there's a time in the season for Pop to play him and see what he has, this is it, tbh...

[MaNu4Tres]

Ayres is a slightly slower Francisco Elson without the scoring.


Think you're giving Ayres too much credit.

Hell, I'd take Shawnelle Scott or Cherokee Parks right about now.

[objective]

Fair enough. Ayres is a slower Francisco Elson without the scoring or b-ball IQ (for what it was).

Add butterfingers.

[Budkin]

Done with Ayres tbh. He flat out sucks.

[Mikeanaro]

Ayres has no BB IQ, why is he on the team? Is one of pop pet projects? cant do even a fucking layup, Baynes is another brainfart, where is his 65% FG?

[KaiRMD1]

Ayres can't dunk, can't do gimme lay ups, basically Ayres can't do what big men are supposed to do. Ayres is big for no reason.

[Hoops Czar]

Clueless fucks blaming Jeff Ayres because he's bad at basketball. RC signed him using MLE money, having no corporate knowledge of him whatsoever. He signed purely on blind faith. Pop continues to play him regardless.yet, somhow it's Ayres fault. Why do you think this fuck was Indiana's sixth big?

[Boomersgold]

Ayres fits Pops' system seamlessly in my opinion. He sets great picks, and knows when to expect the ball. It's his inability to complete wide open lay ups and dunks that makes him look like a scrub out there.

[Hoops Czar]

Ayres fits Pops' system seamlessly in my opinion. He sets great picks, and knows when to expect the ball. It's his inability to complete wide open lay ups and dunks that makes him look like a scrub out there.

Looks like??? No, that's what makes him a scrub. Just because a player fits the system doesn't make him good.

[Texas_Ranger]

...sucks.

[Robz4000]

:lol wasting the MLE on this failure

Even though he's an ASU product I just can't defend him. Guy is not an NBA caliber player.

[jermaine]

I cut the game off once that fool missed that chipy layup! We gave up Blair for this trash

[Budkin]

Worst part is we're stuck with him and his contract. No one wants that worthless POS.

[DPG21920]

Unfortunate, but R.C and Pop whiffed on this one.

One of the worst players I've seen play in the league thus far this year.

Hopefully Malcolm Thomas can salvage this.

Unfortunately, many of us who watch the NBA regularly outside of the Spurs and saw him play knew this was a huge possibility. It's why many of us were dumbfounded when the Spurs wasted any opportunity to add to the team via cap space for a player of his caliber. Didn't make sense then, definitely doesn't make sense now. Seems like Boylen should be blamed for talking this guy up.

[Spurs da champs]

Unfortunately, many of us who watch the NBA regularly outside of the Spurs and saw him play knew this was a huge possibility. It's why many of us were dumbfounded when the Spurs wasted any opportunity to add to the team via cap space for a player of his caliber. Didn't make sense then, definitely doesn't make sense now. Seems like Boylen should be blamed for talking this guy up.
Agreed.

[Arcadian]

:lol Almost every NBA team has a player like this on the roster...typically several. As Spurfans, we're used to having a stacked roster with 13 guys who are all NBA-ready.

It's perfectly acceptable to have 1-3 shitty players on the team. However, the catch is, you don't actually play them in big games.

[look_at_g_shred]

Good pickup imo

[G-Dawgg]

I want to see some toughness from him... I want to see him flatten somebody or get in some people's faces. We are lacking an enforcer on this team. We need somebody to make toughness infectious.

[itzsoweezee]

definitely a downgrade from blair

[BillMc]

Anyone look at the replays and/or advance metrics and get a handle on Jeff's defense? I have no idea if he's any good on that side of the court or not.

His o hasn't been too impressive to say the least.

[Chinook]

:lol wasting the MLE on this failure.


Unfortunately, many of us who watch the NBA regularly outside of the Spurs and saw him play knew this was a huge possibility. It's why many of us were dumbfounded when the Spurs wasted any opportunity to add to the team via cap space for a player of his caliber. Didn't make sense then, definitely doesn't make sense now. Seems like Boylen should be blamed for talking this guy up.

The Spurs committed to using the MLE when they signed Belinelli. Don't confuse mine and more notably Bruno's off-season hypotheticals for plans the team was ever considering. Ginobili was always going to get his money, so really, not much was lost on signing Ayres. Maybe the team could have signed Thomas to a four year deal, or maybe they could have signed him and another prospect like Bertans to long-term deals. But that's about it.

Bottom line, Beli was the MLE acquisition, and he seems to have been a good one. I don't know which big would have been a better value for Ayres' money. Maybe they should have signed no one after missing out on Cunningham. But if they felt they needed a sixth big, then they did about as well as we could have expected them to.

[ChumpDumper]

lol spurfan

[Bill_Brasky]

yeah ayres has sucked but I haven't seen shit from baynes that has me any kind of convinced that he isn't just a huge clumsy fucking oaf either. and thomas is a D leaguer. so yeah, our options ain't good.

[Bill_Brasky]

fucking spurfan complaining about the fifth big. faggots.

[justinandimcool]

KT right now > Dyess right now >>>>>>>Baynes>>>>>>> Ayres

[Bruno]

Ayres is an end of the bench player and is paid like one. Saying that, he has been damn bad offensively, even for an end of the bench player. He can't make a layup or a jump shot.

I still don't get what Spurs did this summer when they screw their cap space for him. However, to be honest with myself, I wanted Spurs to sign Kirilenko and he has serious health issue. It's hard to whined too much given that.

[Raven]

I cut the game off once that fool missed that chipy layup! We gave up Blair for this trash

we gave up on Blair because he didn't have the necessary size and showed no improvement on D.

[Dex]

yeah ayres has sucked but I haven't seen shit from baynes that has me any kind of convinced that he isn't just a huge clumsy fucking oaf either.

:lmao

[Raven]

I'm still not giving up on him, he has size and decent athleticism and defensive awareness, start to not play him with Marco and or Patty, and he'll perhaps be a little better. I never wanted in the first place, but right now i see him as a developmental project, of course there is not much upside but whatever.. Pop shouldn't force the bench as he does, it's the starters that need to be played.

[jeebus]

yeah ayres has sucked but I haven't seen shit from baynes that has me any kind of convinced that he isn't just a huge clumsy fucking oaf either. and thomas is a D leaguer. so yeah, our options ain't good.

I'd still take both of those of Airs. Thomas can hit the three and Bane has the bull in a china shop mentality. Errors is basically on the court because teams aren't allowed to have only 4 players out there and Pop is too braindead to see that he sucks.

[T Park]

Love small sample size bitching from the basement dwellers.

[HarlemHeat37]

Love small sample size bitching from the basement dwellers.

What exactly does Ayres excel at, though, tbh?..I'm just wondering, no hate..

[Budkin]

What exactly does Ayres excel at, though, tbh?..I'm just wondering, no hate..

Playing time?

[phxspurfan]

It's tough seeing all this when the team whose city I live in signed several D-Leaguers or D-League quality players and made them look awesome or passable (Marcus Morris, Miles Plumlee, PJ Tucker)...

[phxspurfan]

What exactly does Ayres excel at, though, tbh?..I'm just wondering, no hate..

He does bring energy...

He has dunked off of a lob pass.

[ace3g]

His midrange jumper has been a big disappointment, a lot of the time, he hasn't been close.

[freetiago]

Whats that clown Ryan Richards been up to tbh...
he at least had some basketball skills and has more intriguing physical attributes then Ayres
would even call up Eddy Curry again tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

I think Pop has this misinterpretation about Jeff. I think he sees him as a Nick Collison type of player which we've all seen that he is not. He's not the guy Pop is going to draw plays for.

He's going to get the ball on broken and hustle plays. The problem with him though is he doesn't have the ball in most possessions, so when he gets it, its foreign to him. As Spurs fans, we expect so much out of "garbage" players.

We should know that even though Spurs are known for finding diamonds in the rough, not ever player we sign is that.

So what are expectations for a guy like Jeff? A few board? Good screen setter? Couple blocks? Decent rim defender? Or maybe a little of everything.

The answer is anything positive. Look, it's so easy for us to say Trade Jeff. Get rid of this asshole. The question is....................WHO?

Sure there are other guys in the league that are better than him. But what does it cost? Millions we don't have. A player with an ego. A player that bitches about playing time when he aint getting any. The point is this Spurs fans, it may be ugly at times and we might wanna throw our beer at the tv when this guy misses a point blank layup/dunk, but this dude plays with heart and is more of a positive for this team than a negative. Besides weren't all of you bitching about having Dejuan on the team, some even saying "anybody is better than blair", yet here you are again. Finding yourselves bitching about another player who isn't an all-star PF off the bench. I like Ayres. I stand by what I initially thought..................Solid pick-up for the Spurs.

[Splits]

Bottom line, Beli was the MLE acquisition, and he seems to have been a good one. I don't know which big would have been a better value for Ayres' money. Maybe they should have signed no one after missing out on Cunningham. But if they felt they needed a sixth big, then they did about as well as we could have expected them to.

Byron Mullens is playing for the vet min, I'd rather have him.

[Sean Cagney]

I think Pop has this misinterpretation about Jeff. I think he sees him as a Nick Collison type of player which we've all seen that he is not. He's not the guy Pop is going to draw plays for.

He's going to get the ball on broken and hustle plays. The problem with him though is he doesn't have the ball in most possessions, so when he gets it, its foreign to him. As Spurs fans, we expect so much out of "garbage" players.

We should know that even though Spurs are known for finding diamonds in the rough, not ever player we sign is that.

So what are expectations for a guy like Jeff? A few board? Good screen setter? Couple blocks? Decent rim defender? Or maybe a little of everything.

The answer is anything positive. Look, it's so easy for us to say Trade Jeff. Get rid of this asshole. The question is....................WHO?

Sure there are other guys in the league that are better than him. But what does it cost? Millions we don't have. A player with an ego. A player that bitches about playing time when he aint getting any. The point is this Spurs fans, it may be ugly at times and we might wanna throw our beer at the tv when this guy misses a point blank layup/dunk, but this dude plays with heart and is more of a positive for this team than a negative. Besides weren't all of you bitching about having Dejuan on the team, some even saying "anybody is better than blair", yet here you are again. Finding yourselves bitching about another player who isn't an all-star PF off the bench. I like Ayres. I stand by what I initially thought..................Solid pick-up for the Spurs.
I see what you are saying as a whole but he is what 2.4 and 2.3 a game as far as boards and pts? He is shooting 42% as well so it's hard for me to say he is a solid pickup by any means so far. I have to see alot more.

[Bill_Brasky]

I mean, when baynes plays the way he did tonight, it's hard not to want a better look at him and even harder to justify Ayres continuing to receive minutes over him if he can prove to be consistent....

[Aus10]

Aron Baynes > Jeff Ayres

[bklynspursfan]

I think Pop has this misinterpretation about Jeff. I think he sees him as a Nick Collison type of player which we've all seen that he is not. He's not the guy Pop is going to draw plays for.

He's going to get the ball on broken and hustle plays. The problem with him though is he doesn't have the ball in most possessions, so when he gets it, its foreign to him. As Spurs fans, we expect so much out of "garbage" players.

We should know that even though Spurs are known for finding diamonds in the rough, not ever player we sign is that.

So what are expectations for a guy like Jeff? A few board? Good screen setter? Couple blocks? Decent rim defender? Or maybe a little of everything.

The answer is anything positive. Look, it's so easy for us to say Trade Jeff. Get rid of this asshole. The question is....................WHO?

Sure there are other guys in the league that are better than him. But what does it cost? Millions we don't have. A player with an ego. A player that bitches about playing time when he aint getting any. The point is this Spurs fans, it may be ugly at times and we might wanna throw our beer at the tv when this guy misses a point blank layup/dunk, but this dude plays with heart and is more of a positive for this team than a negative. Besides weren't all of you bitching about having Dejuan on the team, some even saying "anybody is better than blair", yet here you are again. Finding yourselves bitching about another player who isn't an all-star PF off the bench. I like Ayres. I stand by what I initially thought..................Solid pick-up for the Spurs.

I agree on all :tu . Throw in the fact that this is his first year, and guys have notoriously struggled to get familiar with our system. Athletic bigs are hard to come by... Give him time, like I've been saying...

[Sean Cagney]

I agree on all :tu . Throw in the fact that this is his first year, and guys have notoriously struggled to get familiar with our system. Athletic bigs are hard to come by... Give him time, like I've been saying...

Ehhhhhhh he just might not be very good and has not proved a thing yet in the NBA so I will give him time and hope he develops into a good player but I won't hold my breath. I want to see more Baynes too.

[spurraider21]

when baynes got some run earlier in the season he was a complete flop. good to see he's playing well now

[bklynspursfan]

Ehhhhhhh he just might not be very good and has not proved a thing yet in the NBA so I will give him time and hope he develops into a good player but I won't hold my breath. I want to see more Baynes too.

No doubt, he could be turn out to be nothing special at all. Just think people tend to rush to judgement far too soon sometimes. Expectations are too high I guess