Have Local Schools Become Supply Nazis?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Wow...just wow.

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http://woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=5E5D9FFC-7A15-4945-ADED-67EF2C214B0F

Have Local Schools Become Supply Nazis?

Fernandez Elementary School specifies in its school supply list that parents bring 'number two pencils NOT MADE IN CHINA.' Boone Elementary says not any kind of glue will do, students must bring ELMER'S BRAND glue.

So what's the deal? Why have area school districts suddenly turned into supply Nazis?

Many parents say school districts who have become very nit picky when telling parents what they should have for their kids on the first day of school need to get a life.

"You know what, a school supply is a school supply, and I'll buy whatever I want," one woman with kids in the Northside School District told 1200 WOAI news.

Others said they're amazed that the lists of school supplies are so long. Some elementary schools have placed twenty items on their lists of supplies.

"I don't recall going out with my parents to buy this many school supplies when I was in school," said one woman in the New Braunfels ISD. "It was just pencils, paper, and rulers."

But the schools districts say there is method to their nit picking madness. Pascual Gonzales of Northside says many of the specific requirements were included in response to parents requests.

"Parents want to know specifically what they need to provide their child with as far as school supplies go," he said.

"You need to remember, when we ask for a 'spiral notebook,' that could be a fifty page book, that could be a 500 page book."

He says the lists are often meant to discourage students trying to top one another with the most brightly decorated notebooks or biggest calculators. And he says requests for specific types of glue are in there for very real reasons.

"Glue is not glue. There is all different kinds. And obviously the teachers and the schools have decided that they don't want the type of glue that runs off the paper and runs onto the desks or onto the students' clothing."

Gonzales and other school officials say they will not punish or send home students who appear in clash August 22nd with Borden's glue instead of Elmers.

"We'll work with them," he said.

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So much for impartiality in covering a news story, huh?

[pseudofan]

My kids just steal other kids stuff.....problem solved :angel

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Oh, and then there's that comparison to a group that murdered 6 million Jews.

[GoldToe]

That's a sticky subject in our house.

[ObiwanGinobili]

whne i went to school (in another state) all i needed was a backpack, notebooks or trapper keeper, folders and pencils.

hell, if I ran out of pencils I could get more from the teacher. the school provided everythign else.

Meanwhile my 7yr old brother just got his list and I was looking over it... he has to bring his own markers, crayons, scissors, glue (2 kinds), pencil boxes, sharpeners, 2 boxes of pencils, notebooks, notebook paper, construction paper, hole punch..... etc etc etc. OMG. I'm gonna spend so much dough on this crap that I'll end up gettign his school clothes form the Goodwill.

[spurschick]

That's just bullshit. If the schools want to demand a certain brand, they can supply it for the kids. Maybe the schools would like to collect a small, reasonable fee and they can do the supply shopping. I'm sure there are quite a few parents who would be happy to give up the supply shopping trip.

[desflood]

I'm going to have a kindergartener this year... we may have to take out a loan to go school shopping.

[SWC Bonfire]

Teachers don't make much money. Some of them make up for it by being control freaks.

[Kori Ellis]

I actually understand the Elmer's glue thing ... but what's the logic behind no chinese pencils?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I don't even disagree all that much with the problem of schools having to require certain items, but the schools can't pay for extra classes, much less supplies for every student.

Now, I really dislike NISD, I mean really, and I don't necessarily believe that there's a dick-wagging contest going on between who's noteobok is better.

Does the list specifically state that outrageously designed notebooks are not allowed? I doubt it.

Pascual talks out of his ass with everybody; the media, the district, employees and parents. I can't wait for the day that he has to resign based on some NISD scandal.

My major problem with this story is the lack of objectivity in the reporting. It's not helping the cause of dispelling bias or sensationalism when people see this from their TV news stations.

[ALVAREZ6]

School is gay.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Teachers don't make much money. Some of them make up for it by being control freaks.

Some of them do, but it's not by setting the supply lists. That's done by the grade's teachers as a whole.


but what's the logic behind no chinese pencils?

I'm not speaking for the district, but every chinese pencil I ever used was wax and would break fairly easily.

[sa_butta]

Wow...just wow.

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http://woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=5E5D9FFC-7A15-4945-ADED-67EF2C214B0F

Have Local Schools Become Supply Nazis?

Fernandez Elementary School specifies in its school supply list that parents bring 'number two pencils NOT MADE IN CHINA.' Boone Elementary says not any kind of glue will do, students must bring ELMER'S BRAND glue.

So what's the deal? Why have area school districts suddenly turned into supply Nazis?

Many parents say school districts who have become very nit picky when telling parents what they should have for their kids on the first day of school need to get a life.

"You know what, a school supply is a school supply, and I'll buy whatever I want," one woman with kids in the Northside School District told 1200 WOAI news.

Others said they're amazed that the lists of school supplies are so long. Some elementary schools have placed twenty items on their lists of supplies.

"I don't recall going out with my parents to buy this many school supplies when I was in school," said one woman in the New Braunfels ISD. "It was just pencils, paper, and rulers."

But the schools districts say there is method to their nit picking madness. Pascual Gonzales of Northside says many of the specific requirements were included in response to parents requests.

"Parents want to know specifically what they need to provide their child with as far as school supplies go," he said.

"You need to remember, when we ask for a 'spiral notebook,' that could be a fifty page book, that could be a 500 page book."

He says the lists are often meant to discourage students trying to top one another with the most brightly decorated notebooks or biggest calculators. And he says requests for specific types of glue are in there for very real reasons.

"Glue is not glue. There is all different kinds. And obviously the teachers and the schools have decided that they don't want the type of glue that runs off the paper and runs onto the desks or onto the students' clothing."

Gonzales and other school officials say they will not punish or send home students who appear in clash August 22nd with Borden's glue instead of Elmers.

"We'll work with them," he said.

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So much for impartiality in covering a news story, huh?I see the point the school is conveying by not having one student have better supplies than another. But that seems a bit obnoxious I dont remember being in school telling another kid he got his glue from the dollar store.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://www.nisd.net/schools/schoolsupplies/

I went to the school I used to work at and the list doesn't seem to be too picky IMO.

The PDF is funky, so it won't let me copy directly from it without formatting issues.

Take a look.

http://www.nisd.net/carloscoon/SchoolSupplies2005_2006.pdf

[JoeChalupa]

I see the point the school is conveying by not having one student have better supplies than another. But that seems a bit obnoxious I dont remember being in school telling another kid he got his glue from the dollar store.

The fact that kids may judge each other by what kind of school supplies they have is ridiculous. So what if my kid has "RoseArt" markers and crayons and not "Crayola"?
This year my oldest daughter doesn't have to wear uniforms and the big battle of the "in" clothing has started.
You all know my cheap ass and the fact that some kids are "label freaks" is alarming because I don't give a whoot about brands. I don't need to wear Tommy, Sean Jean, Nike, Adidas, IPod, American Eagle or what ever other Mall store kids shop at these days.

I tell her to be herself and not to give in to the label freaks. But I know there will be peer pressure and maybe some teasing but I think I'm doing the right thing.

[spurschick]

I understand the benefit of school uniforms... but school supplies? Let's have everyone dress the same, use the same stuff... very Orwellian.

[SWC Bonfire]

The fact that kids may judge each other by what kind of school supplies they have is ridiculous. So what if my kid has "RoseArt" markers and crayons and not "Crayola"?
This year my oldest daughter doesn't have to wear uniforms and the big battle of the "in" clothing has started.
You all know my cheap ass and the fact that some kids are "label freaks" is alarming because I don't give a whoot about brands. I don't need to wear Tommy, Sean Jean, Nike, Adidas, IPod, American Eagle or what ever other Mall store kids shop at these days.

I tell her to be herself and not to give in to the label freaks. But I know there will be peer pressure and maybe some teasing but I think I'm doing the right thing.

JoeChalupa, you are doing the right thing.

[N.Y. Johnny]

I actually understand the Elmer's glue thing ... but what's the logic behind no chinese pencils?



:lol i guess its harmless Elmer's Glue, because back long ago, i used to know kids that ate some Elmer's Glue like in the 1st Grade

[SWC Bonfire]

Elmer's glue is actually made from a protein found in milk.

[Shelly]

Our PTA provides 'Wrap Pacs' you can buy. We don't make any money off of it, but it's very convenient.

I always forget to order them so I end up buying supplies myself.

[Clandestino]

I'm not speaking for the district, but every chinese pencil I ever used was wax and would break fairly easily.

I hate to write in pencil anyway...always, always will.. even do math in pen, unless the teacher/prof freaked out... but those waxy pencils are the worst... worst things ever made...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I hate to write in pencil anyway...always, always will.. even do math in pen, unless the teacher/prof freaked out... but those waxy pencils are the worst... worst things ever made...

I'm just the opposite. I hate writing in pen, but it's much easier to carry one in my pocket.

But yeah, give me a wooden pencil or give me a .07 gel pen.

[Clandestino]

i've been remodeling my house lately and everything you buy from lowe's and home depot is made in china... everytime i open a box, i am like, "those dirty little fucking chinse cocksuckers!" bc in almost every box there is a missing screw, 2 of the same pieces(i.e. 2 right legs, instead of a right and left leg), something needs tweaking, etc..

drives me fucking nuts..

[ObiwanGinobili]

Elmer's glue is actually made from a protein found in milk.

Casein.
thast why i don't drink milk.

[SWC Bonfire]

The chinese don't care about quality when it's going to some corrupt capitallist.

I try not to buy things made in China. It's difficult.

[Clandestino]

Casein.
thast why i don't drink milk.

my gf says, milk is for babies! hahaha

[SWC Bonfire]

Your gf may have heard about a little thing called "osteoporosis".

[Phil E.Buster]

I only buy American that's why I shop at Wal-Mart.

[MannyIsGod]

Joe's just pissed they're discriminating against his peoples pencils. :lol

Seriously, I hate NISD, too.

[MannyIsGod]

I only buy American that's why I shop at Wal-Mart.
:lol

Yeah, because everything sold in Wal-Mart is made in America. Well, maybe back in 1990.

[Clandestino]

Your gf may have heard about a little thing called "osteoporosis".

yeah, but there are tons of better sources for calcium...

[Clandestino]

:lol

Yeah, because everything sold in Wal-Mart is made in America. Well, maybe back in 1990.

maybe 1890!

[midgetonadonkey]

I never got Elmers glue. My mom used to always buy me the shitty ass paste.

[SWC Bonfire]

yeah, but there are tons of better sources for calcium...

Sure, if you want to buy a supplement.

But the argument by some is that humans aren't supposed to drink milk. I guess we're supposed to eat an assload of green vegetables, then, because calcium citrate tablets weren't around 6,000 years ago.

[Shelly]

That's just bullshit. If the schools want to demand a certain brand, they can supply it for the kids. Maybe the schools would like to collect a small, reasonable fee and they can do the supply shopping. I'm sure there are quite a few parents who would be happy to give up the supply shopping trip.

Hence, the wrap pacs you can buy from us:


Our PTA provides 'Wrap Pacs' you can buy. We don't make any money off of it, but it's very convenient.

I always forget to order them so I end up buying supplies myself.

[spurschick]

Hence, the wrap pacs you can buy from us:

great idea!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Well, somebody complained.

The title no longer references a group of people that caused the largest genocide in modern history.

[Shelly]

great idea!


It is if some mother would remember to order it at the end of the year when orders are being taken. You'd think this mother would have remembered this seeing that she is this PTA's treasurer and saw all the checks coming in for said product. :oops

[Spam]

Well, somebody complained.

The title no longer references a group of people that caused the largest genocide in modern history.

http://www.seinfeld-fan.net/pictures/other/seinfeld_other001.jpg
"That's it!! No soup for you!!"

[ObiwanGinobili]

broccoli has calcium ... so do nuts.......

and I do think we should eat as ass load more green veggies then we actually do.

[SWC Bonfire]

broccoli has calcium ... so do nuts.......

Well, a 1/2 cup of broccoli has about 1/8 the calcium as an 8 oz glass of milk, 300mg to about 38mg. As much as I would like everyone to eat a trailerload of pecans each, they have a lot more zinc in them than calcium.


and I do think we should eat as ass load more green veggies then we actually do.
:tu

[Useruser666]

The specifying of certain brands is very simple. Those brands WORK! I'm sure people with parents or even the average person in here that has walkded down a school supply isle know the amount of CRAP that is out there. There are tons of brands and gimmiky supplies that are really just junk. There are parents out there that don't really look into what they buy for their kids and end up getting a bunch of either crappily made or poorly designed stuff that just ends up being a big hassle for the teachers. So the districts make lists and specify a certain brand or type of supply so this doesn't happen again and again. Elmers glue works, and sure there are other brands that do too. The problem is when a kid comes to class with some weird brand of sparkle glitter glue shit that either doesn't come out of the bottle right, or stains the hell out of everything it touches. Scissors that don't cut, markers that dry out, backpacks that fall apart, are all examples of why certain brands are listed. Now certainly parents can make up their own minds on what to buy, but what is the horror over taking some good advice from some people who have seen this year after year? Buy what ever you want, but when little Jimmy or Sally come home crying that the Mother's Day card they made you self destructed because of some shitty glow in the dark, glitter, scratch and sniff glue you bought them didn't work worth a damn, don't start complaining. Elmers was on the list.

[SpursWoman]

THE MORE THE BETTER! I LOVE SCHOOL SUPPLIES!!! :elephant :elephant




Goin' shoppin this weekend... :eyebrows :smokin

[SpursWoman]

That's just bullshit. If the schools want to demand a certain brand, they can supply it for the kids. Maybe the schools would like to collect a small, reasonable fee and they can do the supply shopping. I'm sure there are quite a few parents who would be happy to give up the supply shopping trip.


Actually they do....well, the PTA at my kids' school does it. You just put your name on the list and pay whatever the price was, and they'll have it in your child's teacher's room by the first day of school.



Obviously I didn't finish reading the thread before I replied... :oops :lol

[SpursWoman]

Now, I really dislike NISD, I mean really, and I don't necessarily believe that there's a dick-wagging contest going on between who's noteobok is better.

Does the list specifically state that outrageously designed notebooks are not allowed? I doubt it.


Damn...when's the last time you guys were in school!! :lol :lol Of COURSE there is dick-wagging over who has the coolest notebook, backpack, lunchbox, whatever...

And they do list specific things they can't get, btw. :)

[SpursWoman]

but what's the logic behind no chinese pencils?


It could possibly be the wax-thing....doesn't read well in scantron machines or whatever.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Damn...when's the last time you guys were in school!! :lol :lol Of COURSE there is dick-wagging over who has the coolest notebook, backpack, lunchbox, whatever...

And they do list specific things they can't get, btw. :)

Graduated HS in '98.

[King]

Next thing you know, they're going to be telling kids what kinds of handguns they have to use to shoot up the school.

[AlamoSpursFan]

It could possibly be the wax-thing....doesn't read well in scantron machines or whatever.

And who was the dick who always marked the "Key" box on the scantron and fucked everything up for the rest of us?

Oh, wait...that was me. Nevermind.

:lol

[Spam]

Damn...when's the last time you guys were in school!! :lol :lol Of COURSE there is dick-wagging over who has the coolest notebook, backpack, lunchbox, whatever...

And they do list specific things they can't get, btw. :)

Nobody ever thought of making fun of my writing tablet.

http://i7.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/8b/14/a5_1_b.JPG

[SpursWoman]

Just an FYI to those bitching about HAVING to get ELMER'S glue:


They are FIVE FOR A DOLLAR.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Just an FYI to those bitching about HAVING to get ELMER'S glue:


They are FIVE FOR A DOLLAR.

Might help if you say where. :lol

[Flea]

Just an FYI to those bitching about HAVING to get ELMER'S glue:


They are FIVE FOR A DOLLAR.

The funny thing is that the list will always ask for the size that is not on sale. They ask for the 8 oz bottle of glue that costs almost $2. I buy the 4 oz on sale for 0.25 and give my kid 2 bottles. Crayons too......they ask for the 16 count which is $1.00 and the 24 count is on sale for 0.25. So I send my kid to school with extra crayons.