Santa Claus should not be a white man anymore

[AntiChrist]

lol, slate


http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2013/12/santa_claus_an_old_white_man_not_anymore_meet_sant a_the_penguin_a_new_christmas.html





Santa Claus Should Not Be a White Man Anymore

It’s time to give St. Nick his long overdue makeover.

By Aisha Harris (http://www.slate.com/authors.aisha_harris.html)

When I was a kid, I knew two different Santa Clauses. The first had a fat belly, rosy cheeks, a long white beard, and skin as pink as bubble gum. He was omnipresent, visiting my pre-school and the local mall, visible in all of my favorite Christmas specials.
Then there was the Santa in my family’s household, in the form of ornaments, cards, and holiday figurines. A near-carbon copy of the first one—big belly, rosy cheeks, long white beard: check, check, check. But his skin was as dark as mine.


Seeing two different Santas was bewildering. Eventually I asked my father what Santa really looked like. Was he brown, like us? Or was he really a white guy?


My father replied that Santa was every color. Whatever house he visited, jolly old St. Nicholas magically turned into the likeness of the family that lived there.

In hindsight, I see this explanation as the great Hollywood spec script it really is. (Just picture the past-their-prime actors who could share the role. Robert De Niro! Eddie Murphy! Jackie Chan! I smell a camp classic.) But at the time, I didn’t buy it. I remember feeling slightly ashamed that our black Santa wasn’t the “real thing.” Because when you’re a kid and you’re inundated with the imagery of a pale seasonal visitor—and you notice that even some black families decorate their houses with white Santas—you’re likely to accept the consensus view, despite your parents’ noble intentions.


Two decades later, America is less and less white, but a melanin-deficient Santa remains the default in commercials, mall casting calls, and movies. Isn’t it time that our image of Santa better serve all the children he delights each Christmas?


Yes, it is. And so I propose that America abandon Santa-as-fat-old-white-man and create a new symbol of Christmas cheer. From here on out, Santa Claus should be a penguin.

That’s right: a penguin.


Why, you ask? For one thing, making Santa Claus an animal rather than an old white male could spare millions of nonwhite kids the insecurity and shame that I remember from childhood. Whether you celebrate the holiday or not, Santa is one of the first iconic figures foisted upon you: He exists as an incredibly powerful image in the imaginations of children across the country (and beyond, of course). That this genial, jolly man can only be seen as white—and consequently, that a Santa of any other hue is merely a “joke (http://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/2011/03/09/santa-claus-is-black)” or a chance to trudge out racist stereotypes (http://www.salon.com/2013/12/04/a_universitys_terrible_black_santa_question/)—helps perpetuate the whole “white-as-default (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/04/11/_racist_hunger_games_tweeters_speak_out_deny_being _racist.html)” notion endemic to American culture (and, of course, not just American culture).


Plus, people love penguins. There are blogs dedicated entirely to their cuteness (http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/cute-penguins). They’re box (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marchofthepenguins.htm) office (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=happyfeet.htm) gold (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=happyfeet2.htm). Most importantly, they’re never scary (in contrast to, say, polar bears and reindeer). Most kids love Santa—because he brings them presents. But human Santa can be terrifying—or at least unsettling (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/12/06/sketchy_santas_video_coty_gonzales_compiles_the_be st_photos_from_the_infamous.html?wpisrc=burger_bar ).


And, with a penguin Santa, much Christmas folklore can remain unchanged. Being a penguin, Santa Claus can still reside in a snowy homeland—though for scientific accuracy we’ll need to move him from the North Pole to the South. He can still rock a fake white beard and red suit if he chooses. Since penguins can’t fly, Rudolph (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003P3PQOO/?tag=slatmaga-20) and his fellow reindeer will remain a crucial element to getting the job done on Christmas Eve. You may have even spotted a penguin here and there already among the holiday books (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0439321026/?tag=slatmaga-20) and Christmas kitsch (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FQJMVTS/?tag=slatmaga-20).


Will kids have a harder time believing in Santa the Penguin—aka Penguin Claus—than in the fat white guy he’s replacing? I don’t think so. Kids are used to walking, talking bears (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0525457232/?tag=slatmaga-20) and gigantic friendly bird (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002T33IAA/?tag=slatmaga-20)s. A penguin delivering gifts might even seem more feasible to them, since cartoons have primed them to consider such creatures fairly run of the mill.


Of course, since we created Santa, we can certainly change him however we’d like—and we have, many times over. Like the holiday itself, Santa has long since been extracted from his religious roots, even if the name St. Nicholas still gets thrown around. Our current design takes inspiration from multiple sources, including Washington Irving’s 1809 description of St. Nick “riding jollily among the tree tops (http://books.google.com/books?id=v98hAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=snippet&q=st.%20nicholas&f=false), or over the roofs of the houses, now and then drawing forth magnificent presents from his breeches pockets, and dropping them down the chimnies of his favourites.” When Clement Clarke Moore published “A Visit from St. Nicholas (http://www.read.gov/books/pageturner/2003juv05582/#page/8/mode/2up)” in 1823, the old man was described and illustrated as a “plump” but elfin figure. Since then, Santa has been redesigned and re-appropriated to push everything from soda (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PG-iXAE-bwc/TZODOycaW-I/AAAAAAAAABk/rP7Ikfhn8G4/s1600/cocacola.jpg) to war (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Santa_Clause_Has_Gone_To_War_-_NARA_-_533870.jpg).


So let’s ditch Santa the old white man altogether, and embrace Penguin Claus—who will join the Easter Bunny in the pantheon of friendly, secular visitors from the animal kingdom who come to us as the representatives of ostensibly religious holidays. It’s time to hand over the reins to those deer and let the universally beloved waddling bird warm the hearts of children everywhere, regardless of the color of their skin.




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[Oh, Gee!!]

Santa Claus is loosely based on St. Nicholas, a Greek clergyman, who is usually depicted with darker, olive skin.

[Winehole23]

white people and Christmas are being assailed by the liberal media -- it's important!

[Wild Cobra]

white people and Christmas are being assailed by the liberal media -- it's important!
True, but nothing new. It happens all the time.

[angrydude]

you're right, culture isn't important.

[Winehole23]

I'll bite. WTF do you mean by "culture"?

[Blake]

I don't care what color Santa is, as long as Christ stays white

[Spurminator]

Leave it to Darrin and WC to get all righteously indignant about a joke column.

[AntiChrist]

Leave it to Darrin and WC to get all righteously indignant about a joke column.

"lol" is righteously indignant?

lol

[Wild Cobra]

Leave it to Darrin and WC to get all righteously indignant about a joke column.
Joke or not, this type of shit strikes nerves.

Not funny.

[Spurminator]

Joke or not, this type of shit strikes nerves.

Not funny.

:violin It's hard out there for a cracka. :violin



"lol" is righteously indignant?

lol

lol pretending you got the joke. You posted this because you thought it was another example of PC run amok. You love you some white victimhood. I shouldn't have to show you your thread history.

[Wild Cobra]

:violin It's hard out there for a cracka. :violin


At least I’m not a stupid niggеr like you.

Know any good niggеr jokes?

edit add...

I reserve the right to retaliate in kind.

[clambake]

wc showing his true colors.

[Wild Cobra]

wc showing his true colors.
No.

It's just one racial slur deserves another.

Did you lose you cap key?

[Oh, Gee!!]

SIGWORTHY WC! Lulz cant help yourself

[Creepn]

At least I’m not a stupid niggеr like you.

Know any good niggеr jokes?

edit add...

I reserve the right to retaliate in kind.

lol Except he only said a slur once, then you couldn't help your natural self and added another one for basically no reason other than to quench that burning desire to say it again.

[Wild Cobra]

lol Except he only said a slur once, then you couldn't help your natural self and added another one for basically no reason other than to quench that burning desire to say it again.

Believe as you wish.

Are you saying such a thing to protect hypocrisy?

[Creepn]

Believe as you wish.

Are you saying such a thing to protect hypocrisy?

Nah I'm not protecting it. Just pointing out the fakery. Besides, from all the racial stuff you posted, you should be the last person to be "retaliating in kind" tbh.

[clambake]

only white trash would be offended with "cracka"

[TeyshaBlue]

Retaliation in kind is an adjunct of hypocrisy.

[Wild Cobra]

only white trash would be offended with "cracka"
So which group of black trash did I offend?

[Wild Cobra]

Retaliation in kind ia an adjunct of hypocrisy.
Believe as you wish. I see it that pussies are afraid to retaliate in kind.

[clambake]

you're like a child.

[Trill Clinton]

At least I’m not a stupid niggеr like you.

Know any good niggеr jokes?

edit add...

I reserve the right to retaliate in kind.

nice try, wc, but you stilllll aren't more racist than me:p:

[Blake]

Believe as you wish. I see it that pussies are afraid to retaliate in kind.

I see it as you're an emotional weakling, prone to melt down at the first sign of a saltine

[Wild Cobra]

nice try, wc, but you stilllll aren't more racist than me:p:

LOL...

How very true, since I am not racist at all.

I judge people by their character. Not their skin color.

[Wild Cobra]

I see it as you're an emotional weakling, prone to melt down at the first sign of a saltine

No, I just felt like calling out a racist shit.

[Wild Cobra]

you're like a child.
LOL...

You don't know how to use caps, and I'm a child?

[Oh, Gee!!]

LOL...

How very true, since I am not racist at all.

I judge people by their character. Not their skin color.

It just so happens that most black people have bad characters, right?

[Trill Clinton]

LOL...

How very true, since I am not racist at all.

I judge people by their character. Not their skin color.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h385/trillzmowheelz/eddiemurphy-Copy.gif (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/trillzmowheelz/media/eddiemurphy-Copy.gif.html)

[Wild Cobra]

It just so happens that most black people have bad characters, right?
In my experience, only marginally more than whites.

[Oh, Gee!!]

In my experience, only marginally more than whites.

oh, so you've said this about white people:


I don't like most black people. There are very few who I have met that grew up in a cultural setting I have any respect for. Most I have met are out right thugs, and lack integrity. I could say I don't like black people, but there are some exceptions. If I based all my decisions on statistics, I would stay clear of blacks.

[clambake]

lol

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

Selective memory. I also said I don't like most white people.

When will you idiots ever grow a brain?

[Trill Clinton]

http://i.imgur.com/ygZSd.gif

[AntiChrist]

Wow, this got out of hand quick.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow, this got out of hand quick.

Yes, I think it's funny.

The hypocrisy is thick, since none of these idiots are coming down on the cracka comment.

[clambake]

only white trash would be offended by cracka.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Yes, I think it's funny.

The hypocrisy is thick, since none of these idiots are coming down on the cracka comment.

why do you care? you don't like white people

[Wild Cobra]

only white trash would be offended by cracka.

So.

Does that mean only black trash is offended by niggеr?

[clambake]

i don't know. ask your girlfriend.

[Wild Cobra]

i don't know. ask your girlfriend.
Chicken

You are just afraid to correlate the two.

[clambake]

i can only speak from a white perspective.

[Wild Cobra]

i can only speak from a white perspective.

Excuses excuses.

Or...

Does that mean you think of yourself better than blacks who take offense of the word?

I just think you're chicken to say what you really think.

[clambake]

i told you what i think. "only white trash would be offended by cracka."

clearly, you were offended.

[Spurminator]

At least I’m not a stupid niggеr like you.

Know any good niggеr jokes?

edit add...

I reserve the right to retaliate in kind.


:lol I'm whiter than you, cracka.

[Wild Cobra]

:lol I'm whiter than you, cracka.
Probably, since I have two types of native American in me, and some black.

Does being white that make it OK to use white racial slurs? If so, that's something I missed in school.

[Spurminator]

Probably, since I have two types of native American in me, and some black.

Does being white that make it OK to use white racial slurs? If so, that's something I missed in school.


As a white person, I'm not sure I could ever see myself getting offended by another white person calling me a "cracka." Or anyone else for that matter. It's not like the word holds any sort of real historical tie to oppression. And it's kind of a silly word, really.

So, like, don't be so sensitive, cracka.

[clambake]

you took racial slur etiquette classes in school?

that explains a lot.

[Creepn]

Probably, since I have two types of native American in me, and some black.

Does being white that make it OK to use white racial slurs? If so, that's something I missed in school.

:lmao That's the lowest of the low to lie about being black so you can feel it's ok to say that word to other black people. That is genius tbh.

[m>s]

ALL N!GGERS DIE

[Trill Clinton]

smh...wc spews some racist slurs than tries to claim he's indian and has 'some black' in himhttp://i41.tinypic.com/63sllz.png

[clambake]

a black indian sawm.

wish i could be here to see the faces of people that dig him up in a thousand years.

[Blake]

No, I just felt like calling out a racist shit.

I believe as I wish, weakling.

[Wild Cobra]

:lmao That's the lowest of the low to lie about being black so you can feel it's ok to say that word to other black people. That is genius tbh.
It's no lie.

I forget how far back, but I have something like 1/32 or 1/64th in me.

So...

It's OK for blacks to call each other "nigga."

Just how much black does one have to have, or is is a racial judgement based on color?

Based on the color of one's skin rather than the content of their character...

What would MLK think?

[Wild Cobra]

smh...wc spews some racist slurs than tries to claim he's indian and has 'some black' in himhttp://i41.tinypic.com/63sllz.png
Both Cherokee and Blackfoot.

[Wild Cobra]

As a white person, I'm not sure I could ever see myself getting offended by another white person calling me a "cracka." Or anyone else for that matter.
I'm not so affended myself. A few years back, this punk black kid kept calling me a "cracker." He was maybe 5 years old. I simply pitied him for having such racist parents teaching him such things. I wonder what his future will be like being taught to hate.

It's not like the word holds any sort of real historical tie to oppression.
But it does. The master cracked his whip, and it was a racial slur blacks used against the "masta."

And it's kind of a silly word, really.

I find it totally ignorant and hypocritical. I simply used your words as an opening to express such a thing.


So, like, don't be so sensitive, cracka.

So, again I ask.

Just how black does someone have to be for it to be OK to say Nigga?

[Winehole23]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cracker

[Winehole23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker

[Winehole23]

State of Florida tourist propaganda glosses cracker as "teamster," a man cracking the whip.

[Oh, Gee!!]

smh...wc spews some racist slurs than tries to claim he's indian and has 'some black' in himhttp://i41.tinypic.com/63sllz.png

I think he's had some black in him.

[Winehole23]

I don't care what color Santa is, as long as Christ stays whitehttp://gawker.com/megyn-kelly-both-jesus-and-santa-were-white-so-stop-c-1481842503

[Blake]

http://gawker.com/megyn-kelly-both-jesus-and-santa-were-white-so-stop-c-1481842503

smh Fox News

[boutons_deux]

y'all's Fox Repug Propaganda LYING Bimbo chimes in

Megyn Kelly Wants Kids At Home To Know That Jesus And Santa Were White

Kelly: "Just Because It Makes You Feel Uncomfortable Doesn't Mean It Has To Change"

http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/12/11/megyn-kelly-wants-kids-at-home-to-know-that-jes/197238

[Wild Cobra]

y'all's Fox Repug Propaganda LYING Bimbo chimes in

Megyn Kelly Wants Kids At Home To Know That Jesus And Santa Were White

Kelly: "Just Because It Makes You Feel Uncomfortable Doesn't Mean It Has To Change"

http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/12/11/megyn-kelly-wants-kids-at-home-to-know-that-jes/197238
Look pretty valid to me, as to what was said.

Penguins are not at the North. If the bimbo writing the piece had half a brain, she would have used maybe a Polar Bear instead of a Penguin.

What would Batman think anyway?

[pgardn]

Santa Claus is most definitely some sort of Eskimo.

But if he has reindeer that's Northern European? The reindeer are really Elk?

Tough topic in any time frame. Now the Easter Bunny is a cottontail, definitely not white.

[Creepn]

http://gawker.com/megyn-kelly-both-jesus-and-santa-were-white-so-stop-c-1481842503

Wow...Why didn't they even bother to correct Megan about the Jesus thing at least?

This HAS to be Wild Cobra's dream girl. They would be finishing each other's sentences every time they have a discussion.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow...Why didn't they even bother to correct Megan about the Jesus thing at least?

This HAS to be Wild Cobra's dream girl. They would be finishing each other's sentences every time they have a discussion.
About Jesus?

He was likely Middle Eastern, and many are white. Just not white like people from Norway, Scandinavia, etc.

Dream girl, no. I just don't see what there is to shit on her. Could it be you have no actual facts of her being a "bimbo" and the likes of you want it to be true because you don't like her opinions?

Trying to shut down the intent of the first amendment through lies and distortions rather facts?

What does that say about you? Your integrity? Your manhood?

Do you consider lies and deceptions honorable?

[Winehole23]

Santa Claus is most definitely some sort of Eskimo.http://inhabitat.com/santa-and-the-shrooms-the-real-story-behind-the-design-of-christmas/

[Oh, Gee!!]

that guy who doesn't exist, he's definitely a white guy!!

[Oh, Gee!!]

About Jesus? He was likely Middle Eastern, and many are white. Just not white like people from Norway, Scandinavia, etc.


Like Saddam?

[Wild Cobra]

Santa Clause, like Christmas is an early conglomeration of past facts and myth. There are many roots ties together of each.

[Oh, Gee!!]

There are many roots ties together of each.

could you repeat that, Sarah Palin?

[Blake]

About Jesus?

He was likely Middle Eastern, and many are white. Just not white like people from Norway, Scandinavia, etc.


http://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/wallpaper-wajah-yesus-jesus-face-71.jpg

[Oh, Gee!!]

looks nordic

[Wild Cobra]

looks nordic
So?

Probably made by a very white artist.

People do tend to create their gods in their own image.

I recall images of Jesus with a darker skin color tint myself.

[boutons_deux]

this is very probably more accurate

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/06/04/arts/kelleyslide1.jpg

[Creepn]

About Jesus?

He was likely Middle Eastern, and many are white. Just not white like people from Norway, Scandinavia, etc.

Dream girl, no. I just don't see what there is to shit on her. Could it be you have no actual facts of her being a "bimbo" and the likes of you want it to be true because you don't like her opinions?

Trying to shut down the intent of the first amendment through lies and distortions rather facts?

What does that say about you? Your integrity? Your manhood?

Do you consider lies and deceptions honorable?

She is a bimbo!! That video alone is actual proof of her being a bimbo. You can't see that because you are probably a bimbo yourself.

Saying, "Jesus Christ (like Santa) is white - it's a verifiable fact!" is her doing all the lying and distortions.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I recall images of Jesus with a darker skin color tint myself.

OMG! I guess none of those representations of Jesus could be your doctor. How awful for you.

Maybe you were looking at pictures of George Zimmerman and confused him for Jesus?

[Wild Cobra]

She is a bimbo!! That video alone is actual proof of her being a bimbo. You can't see that because you are probably a bimbo yourself.

Saying, "Jesus Christ (like Santa) is white - it's a verifiable fact!" is her doing all the lying and distortions.
And that's all you have.

How do you describe the skin color of the Jewish people?

[Creepn]

And that's all you have.

How do you describe the skin color of the Jewish people?

That's not all I have. YouTube is full of videos of Megan and her Wild Cobra-like bimbo ways. If you're going to be intellectually dishonest about that then you will be intellectually dishonest about everything else.

[Wild Cobra]

That's not all I have. YouTube is full of videos of Megan and her Wild Cobra-like bimbo ways. If you're going to be intellectually dishonest about that then you will be intellectually dishonest about everything else.
If you say so.

You call her a bimbo for no reason no matter what she says. that's pretty dumb to say for a difference in opinion.

[Creepn]

If you say so.

You call her a bimbo for no reason no matter what she says. that's pretty dumb to say for a difference in opinion.

She's a bimbo WC. Just stop it. I do like her hair though.

[Wild Cobra]

She's a bimbo WC. Just stop it. I do like her hair though.
Name calling with no evidence.

No matter. that's your style.

Yawn... No surprises from you today.

[clambake]

wc supporting the terrorist fist jab network. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Something has gone wrong with my Wild Cobra meltdown email alert.

[rascal]

I'm not so affended myself. A few years back, this punk black kid kept calling me a "cracker." He was maybe 5 years old. I simply pitied him for having such racist parents teaching him such things. I wonder what his future will be like being taught to hate.

But it does. The master cracked his whip, and it was a racial slur blacks used against the "masta."

I find it totally ignorant and hypocritical. I simply used your words as an opening to express such a thing.

So, again I ask.

Just how black does someone have to be for it to be OK to say Nigga?

You got offended by a 5 year old?

[Spurminator]

But it does. The master cracked his whip, and it was a racial slur blacks used against the "masta."


:lmao Those poor slave owners!!

[Bill_Brasky]

So?

Probably made by a very white artist.

People do tend to create their gods in their own image.

I recall images of Jesus with a darker skin color tint myself.

go stalk an innocent white teenager you fucking cracker.

[Bill_Brasky]

I can't wait to call wild cracker a cracker in every post now.

[Wild Cobra]

You got offended by a 5 year old?
You must have the reading and comprehension skills of a 5 year old.

Please read what I said again.

I said I pitied him.

[Wild Cobra]

I can't wait to call wild cracker a cracker in every post now.

Go ahead.

Continue to should your stupidity and ignorance.

It will be nothing new.

[Creepn]

Are you sure the 5 year old wasn't actually asking for a cracker?

[Spurminator]

It must have been so hard for slave owners to have to hear the word "cracker." What a tragic reminder of the unjust and prejudiced insults heaped upon whites by the people they owned.

[Blake]

Are you sure the 5 year old wasn't actually asking for a cracker?

:lol

[scott]

Trying to shut down the intent of the first amendment through lies and distortions rather facts?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL how did this gem fly under the radar?

[Trill Clinton]

variety.com/2013/tv/columns/megyn-kelly-masters-the-fox-defense-play-the-victim-1200954818/ (http://variety.com/2013/tv/columns/megyn-kelly-masters-the-fox-defense-play-the-victim-1200954818/)

Megyn Kelly Masters the Fox Defense: Play the Victim

Megyn Kelly might be the new kid in the Fox News primetime lineup, but she’s mastered the oldest trick in the network’s playbook – namely, playing the victim.

On Friday, Kelly used the first 18 minutes of her program, “The Kelly File,” to discuss the “firestorm of controversy” unleashed, as she put it, by her statement earlier in the week that Santa Claus and Jesus were both white – the former expressed as a reassurance to any children who might happen to be watching.

Yet Kelly’s ultimate explanation for the hubbub – which was driven as much by the sheer comedy of her earnestness, given the subject matter, as anything else – was the following: “Fox News, and yours truly, are big targets for many people.”

That’s true, of course, but returning again and again to that response – that Fox is being attacked by “vile” people who are “smear merchants,” as Bill O’Reilly is fond of describing the channel’s critics – is a defense mechanism helpfully designed to squelch any further discussion.

Because if the people who are criticizing you are bad – even evil – then you needn’t worry about whether they might have a point in suggesting you said something callous, or at the very least, spoke inarticulately. You are shielded, practically inoculated.

Kelly did host a couple of African-American guests to discuss the matter this time, although she didn’t help herself much by rather cavalierly noting in regard to the question of what Jesus actually looked like, “As I’ve learned in the past two days, that is far from settled.”

Honestly? Before Wednesday she had never heard that Jesus might not have resembled Jeffrey Hunter in “King of Kings?”

Yet that’s about as close to a correction as Kelly, as one of Fox’s established stars, is apt to get. Because the built-in advantage of the “We’re targets” defense is that it means never having to say you’re sorry.

[Trill Clinton]

Kelly: Outrage Over 'White' Santa Comment Was 'Race-Bait'

Fox News host Megyn Kelly insisted Friday that her earlier comment that Santa Claus was "just white," which invited significant backlash, had been a joke -- and that her critics were just looking for an excuse to call her a racist.

"In kicking off the light-hearted segment, I offered a tongue-in-cheek message for any kids watching, saying that Santa -- who I joked was a real person whose race was identifiable -- is white," Kelly said. "Humor is a part of what we try to bring to this show, but sometimes, that is lost on the humorless."

She then lambasted her critics for failing to get the joke.

"This would be funny if it were not so telling about our society," she continued. "In particular, the knee-jerk instinct by so many to race-bait and to assume the worst of people, especially people employed by the very powerful Fox News Channel."



http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac270/cain316/anigif_enhanced-buzz-30013-1380032910-9.gif

[Oh, Gee!!]

her defence is worse than her offence

[Oh, Gee!!]

sounds Cobraesque tbh

[boutons_deux]

context is everything

-- WC

[George Gervin's Afro]

lol, slate


http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2013/12/santa_claus_an_old_white_man_not_anymore_meet_sant a_the_penguin_a_new_christmas.html






http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/life/holidays/2013/12/131210_HOL_SantaMakeover.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg

Great thread

[Winehole23]

http://www.spd.org/assets_c/2012/12/05%20Jet%20December%201973-thumb-autox550-17025.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

Was Red Fox ever that fat?

[Winehole23]

not sure. looks like he stuffed a big pillow in there.

[Wild Cobra]

not sure. looks like he stuffed a big pillow in there.
LOL...

I loved Redd's acting. Now the guy had some weight on him, but yes. That looks like pillows.

[boutons_deux]

LOL...

I loved Redd's acting. Now the guy had some weight on him, but yes. That looks like pillows.

Do you actually see the pillows? I'll wait for complete context, and until I read the documents myself. You guys are always jumping to conclusions without all the info.

[boutons_deux]

CHILDREN’S LETTERS TO MEGYN KELLY


Dear Megyn Kelly,

For Christmas, could I please have a black Power Ranger? Thank you.

Sincerely,
Bobby, age six

***

Dear Bobby,

Unfortunately, we do not have any Power Rangers in stock in the color you requested. Colors available include: white.

Merry Christmas,
Megyn Kelly

P.S.: Bobby, because you’re only six, you probably don’t know this, but when you use the words “black” and “power” together, they become swear words. Never say that again.

***

Dear Megyn Kelly,

For Christmas, I would please like a white My Little Pony.

Sincerely,
Jessica, age five

***

Dear Jessica,

I just checked, and we do have a My Little Pony in the color you requested. However, I see from the postmark on your letter that you live in the South Bronx. Sorry! Megyn Kelly’s sleigh does not deliver there.

Merry Christmas,
Megyn Kelly

***

Dear Megyn Kelly,

My big brother says you’re not real, and I say you are. Who’s right?

Sincerely,
Madison, age four

***

Dear Madison,

If you believe in Megyn Kelly in your heart, then Megyn Kelly is real. On the other hand, if you don’t believe in Megyn Kelly, then you’re not real. That means your brother doesn’t exist, so stop talking to him.

Merry Christmas,
Megyn Kelly

***

Dear Megyn Kelly,

What color is the President?

Sincerely,
Cody, age five

***

Dear Cody,

Historians are in agreement that a real President is always white. He just is. Now, some people like to make believe that President Obama is a real President, and they get really upset when they learn the truth. Here’s what Megyn Kelly thinks: if you believe in your heart that President Obama is President, he still isn’t.

Merry Christmas,
Megyn Kelly

***

Dear Megyn Kelly,

For Christmas, could I please have a black Power Ranger? Thank you.

Sincerely,

Bobby, age six

***

Dear Bobby,

I already warned you never to say that. Now I’m contacting the police.

Merry Christmas,
Megyn Kelly


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/12/childrens-letters-to-megyn-kelly.html

[Trill Clinton]

TEACHER TO STUDENT: ' YOU CAN'T BE SANTA, YOU'RE NOT WHITE'

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/us/new-mexico-teacher-black-santa/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

[Frank Dux]

Look pretty valid to me, as to what was said.

Penguins are not at the North. If the bimbo writing the piece had half a brain, she would have used maybe a Polar Bear instead of a Penguin.

What would Batman think anyway?

"Being a penguin, Santa Claus can still reside in a snowy homeland—though for scientific accuracy we’ll need to move him from the North Pole to the South."

Solid reading skills on your part. LOL.

[Creepn]

Nobody wants a black Santa, and the reason is this:

cHOc12rlq60

[AntiChrist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHIk2EVyA-4&feature=player_detailpage

[Frank Dux]

The war on Christmas is in full effect. Megan Kelly is doing all she can to protect White Christmas but apparently it isn't enough...

http://cdn.mommynoire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/black-santa-375x430.jpghttp://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2013-07/25/132572413_31n.jpg
http://www.electricdex.com/200712/images/tw-santat.jpg
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2010-12/58424009.jpg
http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/india-christmas-2008-12-20-10-35-8.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Another Fox bimbo eruption

Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck thanks creationist for ‘standing up’ to the atheists

The president of a Kentucky creationist museum told Fox News on Monday that Christmas was a “time to take on the atheists” who used their free speech rights to doubt the existence of God.

“Well, it wouldn’t be Christmas without someone complaining about Christ,” Fox & Friends host Elisabeth Hasselbeck told Creation Museum President Ken Ham, noting that atheists had put up a billboard in Time Square (http://pix11.com/2013/12/09/atheist-billboard-in-times-square-deletes-christ-from-christmas/) which suggested that Christ was not needed during Christmas.

“You know, the atheist who are a very small minority in the population have been trying to impose their religion of atheism on the culture now for quite a while,” Ham explained.

“You know, getting Bible, prayer out of schools. Christian symbols out of public places.”

“Because they’re becoming so aggressive, I just feel that it’s really time Christians really stood up in this culture to take on the atheists and to proclaim their message of hope,” he continued. “I mean, what’s the atheists’ message? There is no God? When you die that’s the end of you? So everything’s just meaningless and hopelessness?”

Ham said that his group, Answers in Genesis (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2013/11/27/christmas-billboard-times-square), had put up its own billboards in Time Square, including one that says, “To all our atheists friends: Thank God you’re wrong.”

(hey, Ham-brain, we thank God you and your fellow assholes aren't public school science teachers, and ask God to have pity on the poor kids taught in your "Christian" schools :lol )

“Our message to the atheists is, hey, we’re not attacking you personally but we want you to know the truth, that there is a God who created you and you are sinners as all of us are, but that God sent his son to become a babe in a manger,” he insisted.

Hasselbeck agreed that the American people “seemed to be with you” because a conservative polling organization had found that most people believed that Christmas should be more about Jesus Christ than Santa Claus.

“The atheists are only a small part of the population,” Hamm said. “And really, it’s that minority, less than 2 percent of the population, that seem to be having such say in our culture, in imposing their anti-God religion.”

“What they’re really doing, the atheists, they’re really wanting to impose their anti-God religion on us, on the culture. And so we need to stand up against that.”

Hasselbeck concluded by thanking Ham for “standing up for you faith.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/16/fox-news-host-elisabeth-hasselbeck-thanks-creationist-for-standing-up-to-the-atheists/

goddam, these "Christian" supremcacist, anti-Constitutional assholes, and Fox bimbos, are as dumb as donkey shit in manger.

[Trill Clinton]

Nobody wants a black Santa, and the reason is this:

cHOc12rlq60


i forgot about this bit lol!

so santa is white, jesus is white, is the boogeyman and the devil white too?http://i43.tinypic.com/2me96wi.png

[Frank Dux]

goddam, these "Christian" supremcacist, anti-Constitutional assholes, and Fox bimbos, are as dumb as donkey shit in manger.

On the bright side, they are an endless source of unintentional comedy.

[George Gervin's Afro]

God I pray that you stand with the Fox news warriors and save Christmas! More specifically a white one!

[George Gervin's Afro]

In fairness to Fox News their demographics are for the most part old white people...

[boutons_deux]

In fairness to Fox News their demographics are for the most part old white people...

Preacher Ham hisself

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/fox_ff_atheist_christmas_131216e-615x345.jpg

[AntiChrist]

In fairness to Fox News their demographics are for the most part old white people...

Meh

http://www.people-press.org/files/2012/09/9-27-12-40.png

[boutons_deux]

33 Jaw-Droppingly Stupid Multiple-Choice Questions from the Christian Education Curriculum

Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) is a fundamentalist curriculum founded in Texas in 1970. It started as a program for private Christian day schools, but it has been hugely successful among conservative home schoolers. Today, ACE claims (http://www.aceministries.com/curriculum/?content=main&distinctive=individualized) it is used in “6,000 schools and thousands of home educators in over 140 countries.” It’s also used in government-funded voucher programs (http://creationistvouchers.com/creationist-vouchers-database) in several US states.

ACE has always taken its fundamentalism very seriously. In his 1979 book Rebirth of Our Nation ACE’s founder Donald Howard wrote, “Fundamentalism is intellectually sound. It has always prevailed in periods of great intellectual enlightenment. It is the only sound an logical solution to the existence of the universe… I am a fundamentalist. If I can be any more fundamental than fundamental, that is what I want to be.” Today, ACE views imparting these fundamental beliefs into children as its primary purpose (http://www.aceministries.com/aboutus/pdf/Great_Commandment_Commission.pdf).

Howard later wrote “We do not build Christian schools primarily to give a child the best education nor to teach him how to make a good living. Teaching him how to live and to love and serve God are our primary tasks.”

He wasn’t kidding.

I went to an ACE school for almost four years.

By the time I left, I was

certain that it was against God's will for governments to provide healthcare,

evolution was a conspiracy to destroy Christianity,

parents were morally required to spank their children, and

science could prove that homosexuality was wrong.

But worst of all was the feeling uneducated; I still struggle with self-conscious fears about gaps in my learning.

ACE workbooks consist of simplistic fill-in-the-blank and multiple choice questions. And these questions are often hilariously, spectacularly bad.

(questions in the link)

http://www.alternet.org/belief/33-jaw-droppingly-stupid-multiple-choice-questions-christian-education-curriculum

[AntiChrist]

^that was random

[Creepn]

If we used St. Nicholas the whole time instead of Santa Clause, then white people would have a point but Santa Clause is a totally fictional character.

[Winehole23]

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000x1koROzxylY/s/900/900/SantaRampage2009SBH29.jpg

[Winehole23]

http://binaryapi.ap.org/4c002b0b2f464d0cb7a23cd9d0df56a0/460x.jpg

[Mao Zedong]

He should be chinese, we build your toys.

[Nbadan]

Poll: 42% Of Republicans Think Santa Is 'Verifiably White'
IGOR BOBIC – DECEMBER 19, 2013, 12:26 PM EST


Megyn Kelly might have been on to something when she proclaimed that "Santa is what he is," which is white.

While the American public at large remains split about the shade of Santa's skin -- 32 percent say he is white, while 36 percent say he is not, according to a new poll by Democratic firm Public Policy Polling -- Kelly may find a more receptive audience on Fox News.

Forty two percent of Republicans believe Santa Claus is not just white but "verifiably white," while 23 percent said he is not, according to the poll. Only 24 percent of Democrats, on the other hand, said he was "verifiably white" while 48 percent said he is not.

Kelly insisted last week that her comment was a simply jest that critics were using to "race-bait and to assume the worst of people." She has found support in fellow Fox News Host Bill O'Reilly and a Libertarian radio host who claimed that Santa is white just like Martin Luther King Jr. was black.

:::snip:::

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/poll-42-of-republicans-think-santa-is-verifiably-white

[Creepn]

that Santa is white just like Martin Luther King Jr. was black.

:rollin:rollin:rollin

Are you kidding me right now? Ok Fox news are just trolling folks is all they are doing now. It's painfully obvious. Maybe Megyn was right that they are trying to bring humor on that network because that was funny.

[Winehole23]

"I can't keep up with the number of people we're offending just by being normal."


1054752452556308481

[rjv]

well old saint nick's historical foundation was a greek dude from present day turkey so...

[FrostKing]

1054752452556308481
"Voices of color"

Hehe

[Winehole23]

well old saint nick's historical foundation was a greek dude from present day turkey so...oh no you don't, not Santa Claus

[Winehole23]

"Voices of color"

Hehe"FrostKing"

racist taint sniffer

[FrostKing]

"FrostKing"

racist taint sniffer
WHITE DEVILS!

[Winehole23]

yeah, so am I.

do us all a favor and go blow a Benelli.

8jvus5JB9UU

[rjv]

oh no you don't, not Santa Claus

mea culpa.

[Winehole23]

go away with yourself, you're not a bit sorry.

like pgardn I think Santa Claus is an eskimo.

https://www.livescience.com/25731-magic-mushrooms-santa-claus.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Next they will want to take Jeebus out of Christmas.

[Winehole23]

lol they

[baseline bum]

Next they will want to take Jeebus out of Christmas.

Would make sense tbh since Trump would have that scary middle easterner deported while the evangelicals cheered the Dear Leader on for it.

[SnakeBoy]

It's too early for ya'll to be getting triggered over Christmas. At least wait until after we celebrate our great relationship with the injuns.

[DMC]

yeah, so am I.

do us all a favor and go blow a Benelli.

8jvus5JB9UU

Would blowing money on it suffice?

[Winehole23]

personal choice, chosen in this case for alliteration

[CosmicCowboy]

It's too early for ya'll to be getting triggered over Christmas. At least wait until after we celebrate our great relationship with the injuns.

We have to celebrate the Celtic New Year first with costumes and candy.

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226261&p=7001011&viewfull=1#post7001011



lol DarrinS claiming as recently as a year ago that Angel_Luv was his Anti-Christ sock puppet.

Who won this war anyway?

[Winehole23]

Next they will want to take Jeebus out of Christmas.Let's try putting Christ back into Christianity first, tbh

[Winehole23]

The demonization of the poor and the meek and the stranger -- the fucking immigrant, y'all -- doesn't jibe, for starters.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol Whinehole revives a year old thread so he can talk to himself.

[Winehole23]

:lol Whinehole revives a year old thread so he can talk to himself.what's wrong with old threads? this one is seasonally appropriate. I notice you ignored my reply to you.

[CosmicCowboy]

A black Santa would get his ass capped coming out of the chimney the first Southern town he went to.

[CosmicCowboy]

what's wrong with old threads? this one is seasonally appropriate. I notice you ignored my reply to you.

I was making fun of the Jeebus people. You are too humorless to get it. Sucks to be you.

[Thanos]

I was making fun of the Jeebus people. You are too humorless to get it. Sucks to be you.
Says the guy who can’t laugh at Nancy Reagan giving hummers to every guy on the Warner Bros lot.

[CosmicCowboy]

Says the guy who can’t laugh at Nancy Reagan giving hummers to every guy on the Warner Bros lot.

See post 66 in that thread. Im fine with Nancy or any other woman that likes to give/get head. Its actually pretty normal with sexually active adults unlike the juvenile shitheads we have in here.

[Thanos]

See post 66 in that thread. Im fine with Nancy or any other woman that likes to give/get head. Its actually pretty normal with sexually active adults unlike the juvenile shitheads we have in here.
All you did in that thread was cry about people making fun of your beloved conservative throat goat and instantly went whatabout Kamala :tu

[Winehole23]

I was making fun of the Jeebus people. You are too humorless to get it. Sucks to be you.Not really, but whatever gets you through the night. :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

All you did in that thread was cry about people making fun of your beloved conservative throat goat and instantly went whatabout Kamala :tu

Nope. Just pointed out that kamala blew/banged willie brown to get ahead where she is now. An old fat disgusting guy when she was in her prime. Disagree?

[Winehole23]

YoU sLuT sHame nAnCy?!&#!

I sLuT sHaMe KaMaLa!

[Winehole23]

TAKE THAT LIBS!11!!1

[DMC]

TAKE THAT LIBS!11!!1

:lol like that hasn't been half of the discussion here for ages, the other half "TAKE THAT REPUGS!11!1".

[Winehole23]

:lol like that hasn't been half of the discussion here for ages, the other half "TAKE THAT REPUGS!11!1".your constant bellyaching about the left totally notwithstanding, of course

[Thanos]

Nope. Just pointed out that kamala blew/banged willie brown to get ahead where she is now. An old fat disgusting guy when she was in her prime. Disagree?
The thread wasn’t about Kamala, it was about Nancy Reagan and her lack of a gag reflex. You got sensitive about your morality queen being taken down a notch, it’s fine.

[CosmicCowboy]

The thread wasn’t about Kamala, it was about Nancy Reagan and her lack of a gag reflex. You got sensitive about your morality queen being taken down a notch, it’s fine.

why do you think women that like sex are "taken down a notch"? You think women that like sex are somehow bad?

[Thanos]

why do you think women that like sex are "taken down a notch"? You think women that like sex are somehow bad?
You certainly feel that way about Kamala.

I think people who try to prop up Nancy Reagan in order to take down Madonna deserve to have this shoved in their face.

[CosmicCowboy]

You certainly feel that way about Kamala.

I think people who try to prop up Nancy Reagan in order to take down Madonna deserve to have this shoved in their face.

Meh then find someone that gives a shit about Nancy Reagan and Madonna. I don't.

[Thanos]

Meh then find someone that gives a shit about Nancy Reagan and Madonna. I don't.
But you definitely care about Kamala :tu