Game 24: Spurs @ Clippers -- Monday, Dec 16, 9:30PM (CST)

[BatManu20]

Spurs are still better than this team, Just didn't bring it tonight. We're not better than OKC or Portland, however, and that's the real problem.

[Darius McCrary]

We haven't beaten anybody this year. Nobody.

[jkid12456]

y cojo in

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Pop's gotto keep it simple based on the longer picture. Get Kawhi to be involved more.. have a decisive big man rotation...and use Patty as the main backup to Parker.
Yeah I'd like to see Kawhi get some more minutes and plays too. If Pop is gonna play Ayres a ton and have nonsensical rotations early in the season, may as well give Leonard more opportunities.

[testies]

this makes game 6 even more painful.. we won't win shit for a decade at least

[LakerHater]

1/4 of Clippers points hav cine of Spurs turnovers

[Spurs9]

Da fck?

[PlayNando]

As I suspected, we'd lose it when Manu had to sit. When neither Tony nor Manu are in the game, we are fked.

[james evans]

we had this game early and once again our coach screwed us. i hope he did this to give the clippers a false sense of hope in that this is who we really are and in the playoffs just throw everything at them and destroy them. i only hope that was the reason for throwing this game.

[TXstbobcat]

Manu slam

[SpurPadre]

If we lose to the Dubs without Iguodola and we then lose to the Rockets on Christmas, we really need to think about making a trade, fuck waiting until the Rodeo Trip to automatically get better.

[LakerHater]

Wowc'mon

[Darius Bieber]

:downspin:

[BatManu20]

Okay NOW pull the starter you terd Pop

[DPG21920]

Willie Green & Dudley :lmao

[crc21209]

Uhhh the ball was clearly kicked...

[Libri]

:rolleyes *sigh*

[LakerHater]

Travel!!!
&he went over Manu's back for the rebound

[PlayNando]

Game over.

[blkroadrunners]

:lmao these refs

[timtonymanu]

:lol scrubs going off per par.

Very annoying, tbh. And of course, the Spurs respond by being stupid on the other end.

[BatManu20]

412822123673948160

[testies]

what a disgraceful performance

[DPG21920]

Willie.Green.And.Dudley :lmao

Now the Clips just stuntin' on the Spurs making a mockery of the team. Spurs get disrespected more than any other winning team. It doesn't phase them and they move on, but damn, I wish teams didn't feel like it was ok to clown the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

Willie.Green.And.Dudley :lmao

Now the Clips just stuntin' on the Spurs making a mockery of the team. Spurs get disrespected more than any other winning team. It doesn't phase them and they move on, but damn, I wish teams didn't feel like it was ok to clown the Spurs.

[Bill_Brasky]

Travel!!!
&he went over Manu's back for the rebound

their bigs have been doing it the whole game.

[ElNono]

Spurs have one of the most inflated records in the league. It's worrisome, but they also coast pretty hard. Hard to read. But not one quality win.

I thought the Suns and Wolves were quality wins... even if the Suns didn't have Dragic

[RD2191]

this team just isn't good anymore, fluke offense and defense tbh. you guys think its coincidence that we win 4-5 in a row against scrub teams and then all of a sudden have a "bad night" against the good/elite teams? :lol

[bklynspursfan]

Clear over the back on GRiffin but whatever. Not the Spurs night... They'll bounce back

[SpurSwag]

this makes game 6 even more painful.. we won't win shit for a decade at least

lmfao just like the warriors were gonna beat us in the playoffs last year

is this a fucking joke? IT ISN'T EVEN THE 25th GAME OF THE YEAR YET, SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Juggity]

well, bad game. burn the tape. never play these lineups again, start the process of relegating Ayres to 12th man next to De Colo, and the spurs should be fine.

[thunderup]

:lol Spurs continuing to show they can't deal with upper tier teams so far.

[Darius Bieber]

Spurs next 5 games:

Phoenix (Toss Up)
Golden State (Loss)
Thunder (Loss)
Raptors (Win)
Houston (Loss)

[SpurSwag]

this team just isn't good anymore, fluke offense and defense tbh. you guys think its coincidence that we win 4-5 in a row against scrub teams and then all of a sudden have a "bad night" against the good/elite teams? :lol

not like our best player got injured as we were closing the gap or anything
that couldn't have had anything to do with it
not like the officiating hasn't been god awful either

[ElNono]

white flag

[LakerHater]

Noooooo, u NEVER pass across the lane!!

[Darius McCrary]

Jared Dudley Spur Killer, per par

[Kool Bob Love]

this team just isn't good anymore, fluke offense and defense tbh. you guys think its coincidence that we win 4-5 in a row against scrub teams and then all of a sudden have a "bad night" against the good/elite teams? :lol

Pop didnt play the normal rotation puto.

[ElNono]

Jared Dudley Spur Killer, per par

yep

[RD2191]

not like our best player got injured as we were closing the gap or anything
that couldn't have had anything to do with it
not like the officiating hasn't been god awful either
more excuses? denial is not just a river in Egypt

[Juggity]

:lol Spurs continuing to show they can't deal with upper tier teams so far.

:lol clippers aren't an upper-tier team. Spurs giving up an expected loss to a low seed playoff team par per.

[Mikeanaro]

Pops fault, kept playing horrible rotations, Cojo is not for this team, same Ayres.
This old shit bag should play 8-9 guys and THATS IT!

[$pursDynasty]

should have known this was over when TP went out, I pray he is ok. at least the Pacers lost tonight

[SpurPadre]

Spurs have one of the most inflated records in the league. It's worrisome, but they also coast pretty hard. Hard to read. But not one quality win.

Yeah, really. We were all creaming the other day for beating a barely .500 Wolves team. A defending western conference champioship team that still aspires to contend shouldn't be winless at this point in the season against contenders.

[LakerHater]

Spurs really missed Tony!

[RD2191]

:lol Spurs continuing to show they can't deal with upper tier teams so far.

[bklynspursfan]

Spurs next 5 games:

Phoenix (Toss Up)
Golden State (Loss)
Thunder (Loss)
Raptors (Win)
Houston (Loss)

Spurs are not losing to OKC/Houston again. Both teams already beat them, very rarely does a team get the best of our guys consecutively in a season

[timtonymanu]

well, bad game. burn the tape. never play these lineups again, start the process of relegating Ayres to 12th man next to De Colo, and the spurs should be fine.

Seriously. Pop makes stupid rotations all the time, but if he doesn't demote Ayres and doesn't play Baynes, then he seriously needs to retire.

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs have one of the most inflated records in the league. It's worrisome, but they also coast pretty hard. Hard to read. But not one quality win.

I'm not surprised we're not beating good teams when our first option isn't showing up half the time. Parker's supposed to be our best player and he's looked worse than he did in 2012 and 2013. Scoring/Passing/Defense all down compared to last year. He's looked tired or disinterested most of the season. Probably should have taken the summer off instead of playing for France. Thank You FIBA for fucking up another Spurs player

[$pursDynasty]

this game is over but what the Heck is wrong with Danny, it seems that Heat stole all his confidence since game 6, he hasn't been the same.

[Ginobili3]

WTF? I come back in 2 min and they're up 17?

[ElNono]

so so game... we hung around til the 4th playing awful, then wheels fell off... I think we're gonna be ok

[timtonymanu]

:lol clippers aren't an upper-tier team. Spurs giving up an expected loss to a low seed playoff team par per.

Spurs are beating the Clippers in 5 in a series tbh. The Spurs had played one of their worst games this season and it was still winnable until the 4 minute mark.

[Arcadian]

Not worried. Spurs played their 3rd stringers too much for this to be considered a serious effort. :lol cliff jumping faggots

[LakerHater]

Wow Jax

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Man I was hoping that Ayres would prove himself after his terrible start, but he's been getting worse.

Green's gotta be more willing to shoot 3s, he's passed up some decent looks just because the defender closes out on him quickly.

[LakerHater]

Almost 40 points off turnovers!!

[jkid12456]

stephen jackson getting his revenge

[Darius Bieber]

Gonna be some "Doc is better than Pop" posts, tbh..

Jackson getting the last laugh.

[SpurPadre]

Not worried. Spurs played their 3rd stringers too much for this to be considered a serious effort. :lol cliff jumping faggots

The real fans aren't cliff jumping but we've got no excuses to be winless against contenders at this point in the season.

[LakerHater]

Jax :lol

[Mikeanaro]

stephen jackson getting his revenge
Revenge is a stupid regular season game?

[Darius McCrary]

Is Danny Green really all that different from last year? He seems to be the same to me. Just tried to take mid rangers more often to begin the season..

[Darius Bieber]

Wow, Clippers with their largest victory over the Spurs in history. That's saying something, this years' team is in trouble.

[LakerHater]

Pop jus stole Jax's headband!!

...then threw it at him!!

[RD2191]

Not worried. Spurs played their 3rd stringers too much for this to be considered a serious effort. :lol cliff jumping faggots
lol faggot

[timtonymanu]

Is Danny Green really all that different from last year? He seems to be the same to me. Just tried to take mid rangers more often to begin the season..

Yeah I don't understand why people are surprised about Danny Green. He's just doing the same thing he's done his whole career. Be streaky. I criticized him a lot last year. But he was ready for the playoffs and did pretty well.

[testies]

it just seems like all teams break their 3 point record of season against us

[Budkin]

Pop and Ayres FTL

[timtonymanu]

Pop and Ayres FTL

Add Cory Joseph and Danny Green to that list too.

[Johnny RIngo]

The real fans aren't cliff jumping but we've got no excuses to be winless against contenders at this point in the season.

Our two best players last year were TP and TD and both are worse this year. Duncan's decline is expected for his age but TP doesn't really have an excuse seeing as he's 31 years old. He looks fatigued.

[Sean Cagney]

this game is over but what the Heck is wrong with Danny, it seems that Heat stole all his confidence since game 6, he hasn't been the same.

He is mentally soft and one dimensional.
Our two best players last year were TP and TD and both are worse this year. Duncan's decline is expected for his age but TP doesn't really have an excuse seeing as he's 31 years old. He looks fatigued.

Well blame that stupid summer play after a deep playoff run. I hate when the players do that personally.

[313]

Our guys were just tired, plus TP was injured. he would have taken over the fourth. Plus crap lineups that won't see the light of day in the playoffs.

I can't believe Spurs fans of all people are worried about regular season wins/losses to xyz teams. I just want HCA, and if takes beating up on reg teams to get it, then that's fine with me.

[TE]

The Clippers got after it on the defensive perimeter. They stymied the movement on the perimeter tonight which rendered the Spurs to run some secondary motion offensive sets mixed with some additional perimeter screening plays that were unsuccessful for a plethora of reasons. Ever since the Clips got CP3 years ago I've noticed they play aggressive perimeter defense in regular season games, well against the Spurs that is. Having Ayres out on the court is an obvious CIA pop move, tbh. There is absolutely no fucking reason to have a clueless player of his magnitude out on the court.

Danny Green is a very streaky player. We got to remember what kind of a player he is and what expectations we should have about him. Fans expect him to go apeshit like in the finals but it isn't going to happen. You gotta live with his inconsistency imo. He'll pick it up in one of these games and have a good shooting performance.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah I don't understand why people are surprised about Danny Green. He's just doing the same thing he's done his whole career. Be streaky. I criticized him a lot last year. But he was ready for the playoffs and did pretty well.

But that essentially means it's a roll of the dice with him and is that what an aging team can afford to do again? I mean, he can defend the shit out of Curry but still. Would he be starting material on any other team in the league?

[313]

Our two best players last year were TP and TD and both are worse this year. Duncan's decline is expected for his age but TP doesn't really have an excuse seeing as he's 31 years old. He looks fatigued.
he played over the summer. he's coasting tbh. Saving energy to make a run when it counts. Who cares about a streak in december

[Darius Bieber]

Marco +/- of -28 this game... Ouch...

Jax with +21 :hat

[Sean Cagney]

well, bad game. burn the tape. never play these lineups again, start the process of relegating Ayres to 12th man next to De Colo, and the spurs should be fine.

Pop will play him more or continue to play him just to be stubborn unfortonuately.

[timtonymanu]

But that essentially means it's a roll of the dice with him and is that what an aging team can afford to do again? I mean, he can defend the shit out of Curry but still. Would he be starting material on any other team in the league?

Yeah I understand the concern. I wish Danny Green wouldn't let his offensive struggles affect his defensive impact. His PG defense is still very valuable. I still believe in him.

[SpurPadre]

Our two best players last year were TP and TD and both are worse this year. Duncan's decline is expected for his age but TP doesn't really have an excuse seeing as he's 31 years old. He looks fatigued.

He does look a bit fatigued. This is the time Kawhi should be allowed to take some burden off him and have more plays run for him. He also needs to be more assertive out there and force the issue more.

[BatManu20]

1. OKC
2. Blazers
3. Spurs
4. Clippers
5. Rockets

Nothing's changed. We're still better than the Clippers, just a lousy game. We're not, however, as good as OKC or Rip City. I see either of those teams beating us in a 7-game series as of right now.

[Johnny RIngo]

Well blame that stupid summer play after a deep playoff run. I hate when the players do that personally.

I've been saying this for years. FIBA basketball has no value. It's a niche sports tournament catering to a minority audience that's more interested in soccer anyway. FIBA makes money off NBA players while paying them nothing. NBA teams don't benefit and the players come back to their teams injured or tired. It's especially harmful for the Spurs since our team is comprised of mostly internationals. International basketball can fuck off and die already.

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lol the fuck happened, we were down by 3 with 2 mins left in the 3rd

[jeebus]

:lol the fuck happened, we were down by 3 with 2 mins left in the 3rd
starters came back in

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbqnGemCcAATJSV.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

:downspin: dat shittttt, GNSF! :hat

Seriously though, great game up until the end of the 4th when it got out of hand, tbh.... Spurs will be fine, Clippers need to start playing more like this and less like the lazy-ass team from the road trip that played down to East cupcakes...

[SpurPadre]

Yeah I understand the concern. I wish Danny Green wouldn't let his offensive struggles affect his defensive impact. His PG defense is still very valuable. I still believe in him.

I believe he can be a solid contributor the rest of the way but there is a definite chance we won't see as nearly a successful playoff performance from him the next time around. We'll see.

[Sean Cagney]

I've been saying this for years. FIBA basketball has no value. It's a niche sports tournament catering to a minority audience that's more interested in soccer anyway. FIBA makes money off NBA players while paying them nothing. NBA teams don't benefit and the players come back to their teams injured or tired. It's especially harmful for the Spurs since our team is comprised of mostly internationals. International basketball can fuck off and die already.

Your damn right. It cost us a title or two IMO.

[ElNono]

Is Danny Green really all that different from last year? He seems to be the same to me. Just tried to take mid rangers more often to begin the season..

He's still buying every pump fake, and he's playing better at home. Sounds like the same to me.

[ElNono]

I've been saying this for years. FIBA basketball has no value. It's a niche sports tournament catering to a minority audience that's more interested in soccer anyway. FIBA makes money off NBA players while paying them nothing. NBA teams don't benefit and the players come back to their teams injured or tired. It's especially harmful for the Spurs since our team is comprised of mostly internationals. International basketball can fuck off and die already.

It's easy for you to say. French people are probably pretty happy with TP winning that tournament for them.

Ultimately, it was Stern that made the arrangement with FIBA, that's where the blame should go.

[Johnny RIngo]

It's easy for you to say. French people are probably pretty happy with TP winning that tournament for them.

Ultimately, it was Stern that made the arrangement with FIBA, that's where the blame should go.

Yes, the twenty Franchmen that actually watch basketball are happy while the tens of thousands of die-hard Spurs fan suffer. Very smart of TP to bring glory to a minority audience while fucking over the hundred thousand fans that actually pay for his salary.

[SpurSwag]

more excuses? denial is not just a river in Egypt

Remember that time last year where we were blowing games late in the season and we suddenly had no hope of going anywhere and we were doomed to mediocrity for 20 years and then golden state played us tough for 2 games and the Tim Duncan era was officially over and yet through it all we were 28 seconds away from a ring?

Moral of the story: shut the fuck up, it's December

[RD2191]

Remember that time last year where we were blowing games late in the season and we suddenly had no hope of going anywhere and we were doomed to mediocrity for 20 years and then golden state played us tough for 2 games and the Tim Duncan era was officially over and yet through it all we were 28 seconds away from a ring?

Moral of the story: shut the fuck up, it's December
westbrook got injured, son. don't for any second think that his injury didn't open the door to the finals for the spurs

[Darius Bieber]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbqnGemCcAATJSV.jpg

Picture says it all, tbh. NBA is a business, no harsh feelings.

[Ice009]

I saw the hug at the end of the game. Doesn't look like that BS about Jackson screwing Tim's wife is true looking at the reception Pop and Tim gave him.

It seems that Pop cut him to show him who's boss. Not sure we win the Goldenstate series with him, but he would have helped in the finals.

[Ice009]

Marco +/- of -28 this game... Ouch...

Jax with +21 :hat

Whoa. I've been waiting for Marco to show up against good teams before I get excited like some of the other posters here were about him.

Neal could have done better than that. Marco hasn't really done jack against the top teams. I'm talking shooting only. I know Marco is better in other areas, but this team doesn't have any creators apart from Tony and Manu, so that means the shooters have to make shots if were are going to go anywhere. Even though Neal sucked in most areas, he could make shots. You can't even expect that from some of the other 1 dimensional players on this team.

Neal could shoot in any game. Whether it was game 1 of the season or game 5 of the playoffs. The guy shot with the same confidence no matter what game it was. I just don't trust some of the guys on the team to do that right now. They're going to have to show they can do it and earn that trust.

Spurs really should have went after another creator. We've got too many 1 dimensional shooters and none of them can create for themselves. We're back to Manu and Tony as the only real creators on this team. Fucking crazy.

[Darius Bieber]

Whoa. I've been waiting for Marco to show up against good teams before I get excited like some of the other posters here were about him.

Neal could have done better than that. Marco hasn't really done jack against the top teams. I'm talking shooting only. I know Marco is better in other areas, but this team doesn't have any creators apart from Tony and Manu, so that means the shooters have to make shots if were are going to go anywhere. Even though Neal sucked in most areas, he could make shots. You can't even expect that from some of the other 1 dimensional players on this team.

Neal could shoot in any game. Whether it was game 1 of the season of game 5 of the playoffs, the guy shot with the same confidence no matter what game it was. I just don't trust some of the guys on the team to do that right now. They're going to have to show it and earn it.

Spurs really should have went after another creator. We've got too many 1 dimensional shooters and no-one that can create for themselves.

Yeah, no one on SpursTalk rips about Neal's shooting ability - it's more about his defensive capabilities. He really did seem lost a lot of the time, but he was a pure shooter with balls and guts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnJ0uUgJIw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4wuQ_gp4yY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J17mMQZjzoU

[justinandimcool]

Yeah, if we could just have Neal in the last 3 minutes of quarters and on offense only, it would be great. It sucked to see classyball "execution" down the stretch trailing by 8, just passing around, everyone afraid to make a play or shoot. Neal would've tried getting to the hoop or the line.

[Kabals]

Yes, the twenty Franchmen that actually watch basketball are happy while the tens of thousands of die-hard Spurs fan suffer. Very smart of TP to bring glory to a minority audience while fucking over the hundred thousand fans that actually pay for his salary.

7 millions fans actually, and it was aired the same time as the biggest football match of the year, basketball is the most popular team sport in Europe after football. Pop know that he win more than he lose by letting his players play with their NT. By the way, without his NT Parker would have never been the player he is now. And without the title this summer not sure Boris would have changed.

[Ice009]

Yeah, if we could just have Neal in the last 3 minutes of quarters and on offense only, it would be great. It sucked to see classyball "execution" down the stretch trailing by 8, just passing around, everyone afraid to make a play or shoot. Neal would've tried getting to the hoop or the line.

I am still angry with Neal and his defensive fuckups, he really did suck on that end of the court. I still want to hit him for leaving a shoeless Mike Miller wide open and also giving up that three to Chalmers at the end of the 3rd quarter, but still, the guy isn't a pussy when it comes to shooting. People here keep trashing him and I don't think they realize that it's not easy to find shooters like Neal. I don't want guys that can only shoot against the bad teams in the regular season. I don't care if you miss, but you GOTTA shoot the ball with confidence. The Spurs didn't really get anyone significantly better than him, so I don't think they should have let him go, especially if they were going to sign a scrub like Ayres with that money.

I am just trying to emphasize that the shooters on the team MUST shoot with confidence and make their shots. This team can't go anywhere if that doesn't happen. A lot of them seem like they are scared to shoot when the pressure is higher against the best teams in the league, or they simply don't shoot with the same confidence when we play the good teams and they are putting more pressure on you. You can't shrivel up and disappear. It puts too much pressure on Tim, Tony, Manu. These young guys need to step the fuck up and stop letting the older guys carry their asses. Kawhi, Danny - I am looking at you.

I have no idea why the Spurs didn't try and sign at least one more creator in the off season. We're back to Manu and Tony as the only two players on the team that can create for themselves.

[cd021]

Yeah, no one on SpursTalk rips about Neal's shooting ability - it's more about his defensive capabilities. He really did seem lost a lot of the time, but he was a pure shooter with balls and guts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnJ0uUgJIw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4wuQ_gp4yY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J17mMQZjzoU

Yet he cost or nearly cost games with his freethrow shooting. I've never seen such a great shooter miss so many clutch freethrows.

[Ice009]

Yet he cost or nearly cost games with his freethrow shooting. I've never seen such a great shooter miss so many clutch freethrows.

Yep. Another hater. I don't recall Neal costing us many games with his freethrow shooting. I do recall him missing a few, which is surprising considering his outside shooting, but I don't recall the Spurs losing games directly related to his free throw shooting.

And hey, at least he could get to the free throw line, unlike most of the other 1 dimensional shooters that are on the team now.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VJPjnT8aO2Y

[Baam]

^ that shit isn't funny to me, if Pop is so over it now that he can joke around with him he should have managed to get past it back then...

[SpursRock20]

^ that shit isn't funny to me, if Pop is so over it now that he can joke around with him he should have managed to get past it back then...
That kind of irks me too. I mean what in the hell is that? Almost makes me believe that there was more to the story than what we heard last year.

[Raven]

starters came back in

more like belinelli happened, -28.

[Raven]

it just seems like all teams break their 3 point record of season against us

go figure

[mingus]

Splitter being out really hurts us. He's really important for us esp defensively. Parker and I've no idea why seems not take as many mid-range shots this year so far. He's proven himself in that area so I don't know why.With Danny Green on the floor it's basically 4 on 5. He's been a nonfactor so far.

[Sean Cagney]

I am still angry with Neal and his defensive fuckups, he really did suck on that end of the court. I still want to hit him for leaving a shoeless Mike Miller wide open and also giving up that three to Chalmers at the end of the 3rd quarter, but still, the guy isn't a pussy when it comes to shooting. People here keep trashing him and I don't think they realize that it's not easy to find shooters like Neal. I don't want guys that can only shoot against the bad teams in the regular season. I don't care if you miss, but you GOTTA shoot the ball with confidence. The Spurs didn't really get anyone significantly better than him, so I don't think they should have let him go, especially if they were going to sign a scrub like Ayres with that money.

I am just trying to emphasize that the shooters on the team MUST shoot with confidence and make their shots. This team can't go anywhere if that doesn't happen. A lot of them seem like they are scared to shoot when the pressure is higher against the best teams in the league, or they simply don't shoot with the same confidence when we play the good teams and they are putting more pressure on you. You can't shrivel up and disappear. It puts too much pressure on Tim, Tony, Manu. These young guys need to step the fuck up and stop letting the older guys carry their asses. Kawhi, Danny - I am looking at you.

I have no idea why the Spurs didn't try and sign at least one more creator in the off season. We're back to Manu and Tony as the only two players on the team that can create for themselves.
Danny is mentally soft and thats a given. He shoots the lights out some nights but if you put pressure on him he is useless at times. Kawhi is still young so I will give him time, but yes I wish he would do what you said more often. Marco? Time will tell if he has it in the playoffs, would not count him out though asa he hit some big shots in CHI last year and was good against Brooklyn in round one. He might have it.

Neal could shoot you out of a game too with a bad shot or two way out of the flow of the offense, but as you said he was fearless and would let it fly and that is rare in the league.

[cd021]

Yep. Another hater. I don't recall Neal costing us many games with his freethrow shooting. I do recall him missing a few, which is surprising considering his outside shooting, but I don't recall the Spurs losing games directly related to his free throw shooting.

And hey, at least he could get to the free throw line, unlike most of the other 1 dimensional shooters that are on the team now.

Seriously? I would hate on Neal. I like the guy but he isn't anymore clutch than, say Green is. That has been blown out of proportion.


At Dallas 2 seasons ago he was fouled behind the 3pt line and missed the last freethrow. That would have tied the game. Dallas scored on the following possession and we lost after he missed a 3 at the buzzer.

At Clippers (same season) missed a free throw that would have tied the game with less than 30 seconds. Clippers hit a jumper and we missed on the following possession. We were going to foul and extend the game, but Foye threw a terrible inbound pass and that Paul bobbled and Neal caught and hit a 3.

He cost of 1 directly and nearly cost us another 1. Also in the Heat "rest game" game he had

All in the final 2:43 (We were up 95-91)
-Personal foul on Ray Allen (made 2 free throws)-95-93
-Made 3-98-93
-Offensive Foul (Lebron 1-2 at free throw line)-98-94
-Miss 17 footer
-Miss 3 pointer
-Miss 9 footer

We lost 100-105

Also last season, he gave up a late 3 that allowed Memphis to tie, after Neal left Conley wide open with 35 seconds left.

He could get to the line on occasion, he also developed a floater that he could use off the dribble. But Belinelli is certainly a better fit. He is hitting 54% of his 3's in our offense thus far. Last season, on a poor offensive team) he still managed to shoot 39% 3pt. He also can legitimately create for others, something Neal couldn't ever do. I wish him the best but we upgraded.