so a 89.2 QB rating, 3200 yards, and 62% completions are Pro Bowl numbers these days?

[BRHornet45]

wow ...

oh and not to forget the absolutely pathetic 22 touchdowns to 12 interceptions ratio as well.


I know it's all about pushing the black QB agenda, but good Lord that is setting the bar low.

[chunticakes]

they figured a monkey baller would be more entertaining to watch at the pro bowl rather than a pure pocket passer.





















aaaand the black agenda thing too.

[BRHornet45]

let's look at bit closer at the 6 Pro Bowl QB's this year ...

(NFL ranking will be listed next to their stats)



Passing Yards

Manning - 5,211 (1st)
Brees - 4,781 (2nd)
Rivers - 4,249 (4th)
Brady - 4,221 (6th)
Newton - 3,230 (16th)
Wilson - 3,185 (18th)


Completions

Manning - 425 (1st)
Brees - 422 (2nd)
Brady - 366 (4th)
Rivers - 356 (5th)
Newton - 277 (16th)
Wilson - 242 (19th)


Completion Percentage

Rivers - 69.7 (1st)
Brees - 68.2 (2nd)
Manning - 67.4 (3rd)
Wilson - 63.0 (13th)
Newton - 62.1 (15th)
Brady - 60.6 (22nd) ... lol Brady WTF


Touchdowns

Manning - 51 (1st)
Brees - 35 (2nd)
Rivers - 29 (5th)
Wilson - 25 (8th)
Brady - 24 (10th)
Newton - 22 (14th)


Touchdown to Interception Ratio

Manning - 5.1 (3rd)
Brees - 2.9 (8th ... 35 TD to 12 INT, difference of 23)
Rivers - 2.9 (9th ... 29 TD, 10 INT, difference of 19)
Wilson - 2.8 (10th)
Brady - 2.4 (12th)
Newton - 1.8 (18th)


QB Rating of players with AT LEAST 300 pass attempts

Manning - 113.0 (1st)
Rivers - 105.5 (2nd)
Brees - 101.8 (3rd)
Wilson - 101.1 (4th)
Newton - 89.2 (9th)
Brady - 88.0 (13th)


wow ... Cam only cracks the top 10 in ONE major Quarterback stat category and that is ONLY because I removed 4 players ahead of him because they didn't have more than 300 pass attempts.

[spurraider21]

foles deserved consideration but team success often dictates QB evaluation, and Cam led gw drives against some good teams.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao salty as fuck

did brees make it in?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

foles deserved consideration but team success often dictates QB evaluation, and Cam led gw drives against some good teams.

thank you for understanding and not being a fucking retard like BRSaltyAsShit

[BRHornet45]

foles deserved consideration but team success often dictates QB evaluation, and Cam led gw drives against some good teams.

son to answer your original question before the edit, I removed ...

Foles (118.8 on 291 attempts ... compared to Peyton Manning's 631 attempts)
McCown (109.0 on 224 attempts)
Rodgers (108.0 on 251 attempts)
Bradford (90.9 on 262 attempts)

none of which have more than 300 pass attempts this season which results in a higher QB rating than they likely would have if they had thrown as much as the other players. Rodgers is the only one that would still have over a 100 QB rating right now.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

son to answer your original question before the edit, I removed ...

Foles (118.8 on 291 attempts ... compared to Peyton Manning's 631 attempts)
McCown (109.0 on 224 attempts)
Rodgers (108.0 on 251 attempts)
Bradford (90.9 on 262 attempts)

none of which have more than 300 pass attempts this season which results in a higher QB rating than they likely would have if they had thrown as much as the other players. Rodgers is the only one that would still have over a 100 QB rating right now.

it's okay BR. Cam won't even be playing in the PB this year.. he'll be busy prepping for the SB

[DeadlyDynasty]

Ryan Fitzpatrick had 24 and 16 last year with 3500+ yds despite having only 1/2 a WR. Just some perspective. Congrats, though. Did team leaders Lynch and Kuechly make the NFC roster?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

tbh thomas davis should have made it this year too

[BRHornet45]

it's okay BR. Cam won't even be playing in the PB this year.. he'll be busy prepping for the SB

Cam won't make it past the first round son. again ... GIMMICK QB's don't win championships in the NFL. sure the sun will shine on their ass every now and then, but the truth is the truth.

btw do you know Cam's NFL record in the Georgia Dome??? I'll wait for it.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Cam won't make it past the first round son.

he won't be playing in the first round buddy... remember we beat yall's ass last game

[Clipper Nation]

Ryan Fitzpatrick had 24 and 16 last year with 3500+ yds despite having only 1/2 a WR. Just some perspective. Congrats, though. Did team leaders Lynch and Kuechly make the NFC roster?

Yes, the Panthers' alpha, best player, and team leader Kuechly made the Pro Bowl, tbh.... too bad their faggot beta quarterback got in undeservedly as well....

[johnsmith]

he won't be playing in the first round buddy... remember we beat yall's ass last game

So angry.

[jeebus]

Ryan Fitzpatrick had 24 and 16 last year with 3500+ yds despite having only 1/2 a WR. Just some perspective. Congrats, though. Did team leaders Lynch and Kuechly make the NFC roster?
tbh Fitzmagic should've played in blackface the entire season imo

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

foles deserved consideration but team success often dictates QB evaluation, and Cam led gw drives against some good teams.
Chip Kelly sabotaged Foles by giving Dog Killer starts he didn't deserve.

[BRHornet45]

he won't be playing in the first round buddy... remember we beat yall's ass last game

LMAO you're too much.

Saint curb stomp Panthers 31-13 and completely dominate all the stats .... you go into meltdown/hiding mode.

Saints beat themselves and lose 17-13 despite dominating the game ... you claim that's an ass beating.

nigga please.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Yes, the Panthers' alpha, best player, and team leader Kuechly made the Pro Bowl, tbh.... too bad their faggot beta quarterback got in undeservedly as well....

:lmao the dude is STILL talking shit even after running away and NOT responding after the Miami, NE, SF, and NO games respectively :lmao :lmao :lmao

CN is the definition of the kid that follows around his friends but can't defend himself when put in a 1 v 1 scenario.

notice how he goes AWOL whenever his team gets raped or his opinion gets busted for being stupid.

this post season is gonna be fun

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

cam broke my heart in 30 seconds </3 :cry.

[Clipper Nation]

BR dropping truth bombs on Cum Newton per the usual :lol

Considering the pussy game manager Alice Smith didn't get invited to the Pro Bowl, I see no reason why another pussy game manager in Cum Newton deserved an invite either....

[DeadlyDynasty]

tbh thomas davis should have made it this year too

Davis got hosed

[DeadlyDynasty]

tbh thomas davis should have made it this year too

Davis got hosed

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

BR dropping truth bombs on Cum Newton per the usual :lol

Considering the pussy game manager Alice Smith didn't get invited to the Pro Bowl, I see no reason why another pussy game manager in Cum Newton deserved an invite either....

how many game winning drives has alex smith put up this year, tbh?

[spurraider21]

son to answer your original question before the edit, I removed ...

Foles (118.8 on 291 attempts ... compared to Peyton Manning's 631 attempts)
McCown (109.0 on 224 attempts)
Rodgers (108.0 on 251 attempts)
Bradford (90.9 on 262 attempts)

none of which have more than 300 pass attempts this season which results in a higher QB rating than they likely would have if they had thrown as much as the other players. Rodgers is the only one that would still have over a 100 QB rating right now.
I know. I asked because I was bein lazy but went and looked it up myself, so I deleted the comment

[BRHornet45]

this post season is gonna be short

fixed

Panthers will be knocked out in the first game. son you need to be worried about getting past Atlanta.

Cam is pure shit in the Georgia Dome.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao the dude is STILL talking shit even after running away and NOT responding after the Miami, NE, SF, and NO games respectively :lmao :lmao :lmao

CN is the definition of the kid that follows around his friends but can't defend himself when put in a 1 v 1 scenario.

notice how he goes AWOL whenever his team gets raped or his opinion gets busted for being stupid.
:lmao I'm always right here after every loss and was on after every game you mentioned, dumbass....


this post season is gonna be fun
You sound like Avante before he makes another shit bet, tbh :lol

[J.T.]

WGAF about the fucking Pro Bowl but the Colts got robbed. Jerrell Freeman deserved a nod at ILB. WTF @ Matt Prater? You're a Pro Bowler because you got to kick 100 PATs with Peyton Manning running your team's offense? OK. Vinatieri is like 90 years old and missed from 40+ yards three times all year behind an offense that spent half the season not being able to find the end zone. Some of the Colts W's would be L's without him. Pat McAfee blows up kick returners all year, downs a shit load of punts inside the 10 and we send the fucking Rams and Dolphins punters?

K. I hope all these faggots find their way to injured reserve this week. Bullshit.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

fixed

Panthers will be knocked out in the first game. son you need to be worried about getting past Atlanta.

Cam is pure shit in the Georgia Dome.

you do realize this isn't the same ATL team from the past few years.... right?

you also realize our D is #2 and not #28 like last year.. right?

you also realize that Cam averages a 108 QBR against teams below or = to .500.... right?

[spurraider21]

Chip Kelly sabotaged Foles by giving Dog Killer starts he didn't deserve.
True that. I did manage to catch Foles' big coming out party. Dude looked great

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

glad rivers finally got in... was getting tired of him being overlooked for those like brett fucking favre

[BRHornet45]

you also realize that Cam averages a 108 QBR against teams below or = to .500.... right?

son I sure would hope that Cam is over 100 in the QB Rating when facing dog shit teams. I mean he has to somehow balance out that 60-70 QB Rating when facing challenging teams.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

son I sure would hope that Cam is over 100 in the QB Rating when facing dog shit teams. I mean he has to somehow balance out that 60-70 QB Rating when facing challenging teams.

yeah.. five game winning drives, including four over playoff teams sure does show him shitting the bed... lol gtfo

have you even watched the highlights of the game? :lmao i bet you can't still b/c it h:cryrts too much

[BRHornet45]

I mean sons just look at the facts. 5 out of the 6 Pro Bowl QB's deserve to be there and the stats prove it. Brady and Wilson have struggle a bit in a couple categories each, but more than make up for it in other categories. Cam Newton is pure garbage in each and every QB stat category.


Cam Newton 2013 Rankings


Passing Yards - 16th

Completions - 16th

Completion Percentage - 15th

Touchdowns - 14th

Touchdown to Interception Ratio - 18th

QB Rating - 9th (when only counting players with at least 300 pass attempts), 13th (when counting all players)

[DeadlyDynasty]

glad rivers finally got in... was getting tired of him being overlooked for those like brett fucking favre

Favre only played in the AFC in 2008

[Clipper Nation]

glad rivers finally got in... was getting tired of him being overlooked for those like brett fucking favre

This is his fifth trip to the Pro Bowl, dumbass :lol

[BRHornet45]

Favre only played in the AFC in 2008

son just ignore the dude when he tries to talk facts. he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

my asshole is still torn from thatt assraping cam gave me last week

fify

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

son just ignore the dude when he tries to talk facts. he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.
DeadlyDynasty, please give this faggot the answer to the following question: Who made the Pro Bowl in 2008 when Rivers should have?

[BRHornet45]

This is his fifth trip to the Pro Bowl, dumbass :lol

son you ever watch football with a group of hot chicks and they always bring that one ugly/fat one around who claims to be a huge fan and spews a bunch of nonsense that makes you and your boys roll your eyes? well N0 LyF3 is our fat, ugly chick of Spurs Talk.

[Clipper Nation]

I mean sons just look at the facts. 5 out of the 6 Pro Bowl QB's deserve to be there and the stats prove it. Brady and Wilson have struggle a bit in a couple categories each, but more than make up for it in other categories. Cam Newton is pure garbage in each and every QB stat category.


Cam Newton 2013 Rankings


Passing Yards - 16th

Completions - 16th

Completion Percentage - 15th

Touchdowns - 14th

Touchdown to Interception Ratio - 18th

QB Rating - 9th (when only counting players with at least 300 pass attempts), 13th (when counting all players)

In comparison:

Alice Smith 2013 Rankings

Passing Yards - 15th

Completions - 14th

Completion Percentage - 21st (but threw more times than Cum)

Touchdowns - 12th

Touchdown to Interception Ratio - 6th

QB Rating - 15th

Career Playoff Wins - 1 (Cum: 0)

A pussy game manager like Alice Smith is still better than Cum at nearly every passing stat, and Smith didn't even get invited to the Pro Bowl! :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

This is his fifth trip to the Pro Bowl, dumbass :lol

philip rivers is my second favorite quarterback in the league and is also the career leader in passing at my school.. do you really think i'm that oblivious when it comes to that?

he's been snubbed a couple times.. that's what i was trying to say

[BRHornet45]

DeadlyDynasty, please give this faggot the answer to the following question: Who made the Pro Bowl in 2008 when Rivers should have?

lol at you trying to dig yourself out of that hole.

YOU said "glad Rivers finally made it" .... just admit it, you didn't know that.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Clipper Nation you still haven't answered my question about Cam yet. Why you deflecting?

[BRHornet45]

In comparison:

Alice Smith 2013 Rankings

Passing Yards - 15th

Completions - 14th

Completion Percentage - 21st (but threw more times than Cum)

Touchdowns - 12th

Touchdown to Interception Ratio - 6th

QB Rating - 15th

Career Playoff Wins - 1 (Cum: 0)

A pussy game manager like Alice Smith is still better than Cum at nearly every passing stat, and Smith didn't even get invited to the Pro Bowl! :lol

damn good find.

it's not about opinion. it's about facts. the proof is in the pudding. Cam is being pushed to the top IN THE MEDIA for one reason and one reason only. do I even need to say it?

[DeadlyDynasty]

DeadlyDynasty, please give this faggot the answer to the following question: Who made the Pro Bowl in 2008 when Rivers should have?

Don't know, but guess it was Favre. Still, that's only one time, it was 5 years ago, and the Jets had a better record.

[DeadlyDynasty]

DeadlyDynasty, please give this faggot the answer to the following question: Who made the Pro Bowl in 2008 when Rivers should have?

Don't know, but guess it was Favre. Still, that's only one time, it was 5 years ago, and the Jets had a better record.

[Clipper Nation]

Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500) you still haven't answered my question about Cam yet. Why you deflecting?

A real quarterback with that stacked supporting cast wouldn't always need to mount a comeback to beat any opponent with a pulse, tbh....

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

A real quarterback with that stacked supporting cast wouldn't always need to mount a comeback to beat any opponent with a pulse, tbh....

it's funny cause we have complete shit receivers and a horrible O-line.

[Clipper Nation]

it's funny cause we have complete shit receivers

:lmao Backtracking from all the slurping of Steve Smith you've done all year in order to prop up Cum.... you're acting like a Kirbystan, tbh....

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao Backtracking from all the slurping of Steve Smith you've done all year in order to prop up Cum.... you're acting like a Kirbystan, tbh....
He has been great for us over the years... But he's old

[Clipper Nation]

and a horrible O-line.
PFF ranks your O-line +17.2 at pass blocking (third best in the league) and +5.0 at run blocking (eighth best in the league), +33.9 overall (fifth best in the league).... Jordan Gross is the third best offensive tackle in the league according to PFF's stats....

:lol Shitting on an actually good O-line in order to prop up Cum

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

PFF ranks your O-line +17.2 at pass blocking (third best in the league) and +5.0 at run blocking (eighth best in the league), +33.9 overall (fifth best in the league).... Jordan Gross is the third best offensive tackle in the league according to PFF's stats....

:lol Shitting on an actually good O-line in order to prop up Cum
I don't need to prop us Cam, tbh... Anyone with a brain sees what he's doing this year.


its funny you say good QB's don't need to come from behind weekly, yet that explains Brady perfectly... Deflect that

[BRHornet45]

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

son since you're clinging on to life support with this "but...but.. Cam has this many come from behind wins!" .... here are some facts for you to chew on. (BTW someone go ahead and pull the plug off his life support after this) ....



Career Fourth Quarter Comebacks

Cam Newton - 6 (in 47 games)

compared to other QB's in similar time frames (your personal favorite first) ...


Andrew Luck - 7 (in 31 games)

Russell Wilson - 7 (in 31 games)

Vince Young - 7 (in 43 games)

Tim Tebow - 6 (in 24 games)



you know just to name a few. oh and just to let you know ... Alex Smith has 11 comebacks.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm

[Clipper Nation]

I don't need to prop us Cam, tbh... Anyone with a brain sees what he's doing this year.
Yeah, we see he's managing games and being highly overrated by the national media :lol


its funny you say good QB's don't need to come from behind weekly, yet that explains Brady perfectly... Deflect that
:lol Notice how you left out the qualifier about supporting casts.... due to all the injuries they've had, Brady has mostly had a worse O-line, worse defense, and worse skill-position players at his disposal than Cum has, tbh.... as much as I hate to admit it as I can't stand him, put Brady on this Panthers team and they run through the league this year and are unanimous Super Bowl favorites....

[Clipper Nation]

Btw, Cum's 9th ranked passer rating is deceiving, as it plummets to a pathetic 65.7 rating whenever he is pressured.... when pressured, he takes sacks on 21% of his dropbacks and has thrown 8 picks.....

That's just more proof of why No Lyfe Faggot throwing the O-line under the bus is pathetic, they're the biggest reason his stats look decent because when they do allow pressure, Cum turtles up and plays like a scrub :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

son since you're clinging on to life support with this "but...but.. Cam has this many come from behind wins!" .... here are some facts for you to chew on. (BTW someone go ahead and pull the plug off his life support
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm
I'm referring to this year..... Because that's what this thread is about. Who cares about the past couple years? Especially considering Cam had no help. Keep deflecting that and the factor led a team from 2-14 to their first division win since 08.


Stay salty bro!

"it's not fair... :cry we stopped cam for most the g:cryme :cry"

[Clipper Nation]

No Lyfe Faggot disappearing now that his arguments are being ripped to shreds, same thing he tries to call out others on :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

No Lyfe Faggot disappearing now that his arguments are being ripped to shreds, same thing he tries to call out others on :lol
I'm not disappearing. You're just proving nothing. You're clearly butthurt because Cam made the PB...something he won't even play in b/c hell be prepping up.

Tbh, it's funny how mad you get. It's even funnier watching you two meltdown.

Cam has pretty much shit on the haters this year and I fuckin love it

[Clipper Nation]

I'm not disappearing. You're just proving nothing.
:lol I've provided statistical facts to rebut your excuses (and so has BR), and your response to that has been to keep moving the goalposts to the next excuse.... now you've run out of excuses and are resorting to "LOL U MAD LOL BUTTHURT" instead, tbh....

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

PS Clipper Nation, it's cute how you haven't mentioned the significance Newton has in the rushing game for Carolina.... Wonder why :lmao

[BRHornet45]

Who cares about the past couple years? Especially considering Cam had no help.


LMAO

[Clipper Nation]

PS Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500), it's cute how you haven't mentioned the significance Newton has in the rushing game for Carolina.... Wonder why :lmao
The quarterback's primary job is to pass the ball, so I don't give a shit about Cum's running ability when he is barely at game-manager levels in the passing game :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Btw, that "horrible O-line" is easily the most important component of Carolina's running game, not Cum:


Running to their left, the Panthers are averaging 4.3, 4.0, and 4.5 per gap from left guard out to left end, respectively, and have seen their linemen on that side earn run-blocking grades among the best at their positions. PFF Pro Bowl selections (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/12/24/pff-pro-bowl-team-2014/), left tackle Jordan Gross (+5.5, eighth among left tackles) and left guard Travelle Wharton (+9.0, fifth), along with center Ryan Kalil (+8.9, fifth) and blocking tight end Ben Hartsock (+11.7, first) form a solid front for Carolina runners to play off of and will be part of one of this game’s better matchups.

[spurraider21]

I just noticed fans always shit on their teams oline to prop up other players... But in the offseason they always talk up their new and improved oline only to repeat the process once the season starts

[BRHornet45]

Cam's career numbers are absolutely pathetic. yet he still makes the Pro Bowl despite the fact that he will average CAREER LOWS in ...

- Passing Yards
- Passing Yards per Attempt
- Adjusted Yards Gained per Attempt
- Passing Yards per Completion
- Passing Yards per Game

hell ... even his monkeyball numbers are down. career lows in ...

- Rushing Yards
- Rushing Touchdowns
- Rushing Yards per Attempt
- Rushing Yards per Game

[Clipper Nation]

Cum is also 16th among all starting quarterbacks in DYAR and 15th in DVOA.... for all the hype, he provides mediocre total value and value per play....

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cum is also 16th among all starting quarterbacks in DYAR and 15th in DVOA.... for all the hype, he provides mediocre total value and value per play....
Where are the rankings for this? Just curious and would like to look at all the figures.

[Clipper Nation]

Where are the rankings for this? Just curious and would like to look at all the figures.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

[Kyle Orton]

Tbh PFF had the skins line rated 3rd best at one point in the season and we all know how shitty that line is when it comes to pass blocking

[johnsmith]

WGAF about the fucking Pro Bowl but the Colts got robbed. Jerrell Freeman deserved a nod at ILB. WTF @ Matt Prater? You're a Pro Bowler because you got to kick 100 PATs with Peyton Manning running your team's offense? OK. Vinatieri is like 90 years old and missed from 40+ yards three times all year behind an offense that spent half the season not being able to find the end zone. Some of the Colts W's would be L's without him. Pat McAfee blows up kick returners all year, downs a shit load of punts inside the 10 and we send the fucking Rams and Dolphins punters?

K. I hope all these faggots find their way to injured reserve this week. Bullshit.

Really? Prater only missed one field goal this season and kicked a 64 yard bomb in 7 degree weather.

More important, why are you complaining about kickers? This is so unlike you.

[J.T.]

Really? Prater only missed one field goal this season and kicked a 64 yard bomb in 7 degree weather.

More important, why are you complaining about kickers? This is so unlike you.

Yeah I'd only miss one field goal when my offense is busy breaking the passing touchdowns in a season record too.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tbh PFF had the skins line rated 3rd best at one point in the season and we all know how shitty that line is when it comes to pass blocking

Or maybe PFF is evaluating Washington's line objectively while RG3 nuthuggers pretend it's accepted fact that Washington's line sucks in order to prop up RG3.

[Lincoln]

Or maybe PFF is evaluating Washington's line objectively while RG3 nuthuggers pretend it's accepted fact that Washington's line sucks in order to prop up RG3.

the same exact offensive line was ranked 16th last season (and 27th in 2011) even when rg3 has his best year

[Bill_Brasky]

lol pro bowl tears

[Trill Clinton]

cam taking a steaming hot shit on the haters.

http://i39.tinypic.com/npon7l.jpg

[Floyd Pacquiao]

He def shouldn't be in the pro bowl tbh. the commissioner obviously put him in to sell tickets and bring gimmick play to a game that no one watches. imo

[blah blah blah]

I just noticed fans always shit on their teams oline to prop up other players... But in the offseason they always talk up their new and improved oline only to repeat the process once the season starts

shaq dunking on dudley or whatever

[Clipper Nation]

Cam won't make it past the first round son. again ... GIMMICK QB's don't win championships in the NFL. sure the sun will shine on their ass every now and then, but the truth is the truth.

btw do you know Cam's NFL record in the Georgia Dome??? I'll wait for it.
BR