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AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 02:42 PM
I am no stranger to other NBA Forums, and this thread really caught my eye.
http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320902

Wade from 2003-13 = 3 rings
Kirby from 2003-13 = 2 rings

3 > 2
Wade > Kirby

:downspin:

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 02:44 PM
And I must add, Kirby has the 2 WORST Finals series. 04 and 08 Finals averages are the worst any other superstar has ever put up, while Wade had the best Finals series in 06, and his 2011 series was LEGIT and he would have won his 2nd FMVP if it weren't for Bron choking, so I don't want to hear any excuses about Wade being carried.

Wade also took a shit down our throats in Game 7 with a 23 pt 10 reb performance(11-21 shooting)

Thread
12-29-2013, 02:58 PM
& thank Christ. Otherwise, I'm on the dirty end of 5-5 and sitting on my Lazy Boy bitter & rancid.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 03:08 PM
& thank Christ. Otherwise, I'm on the dirty end of 5-5 and sitting on my Lazy Boy bitter & rancid.

:rolleyes

Thread
12-29-2013, 03:12 PM
:rolleyes

Roll your eyes, but, it's true. I'd be sitting there arguing with me about coming in here and facing the music 6+ months after the dirty deed was done. It's easy to sit here and say I'd a showed my ass, but, I couldn't say for sure until I'm faced with such a monstrosity as 5-5 with Kobe wearing that shit bag. I just hope I never have to make that decision, Heelster.

spurraider21
12-29-2013, 03:22 PM
Roll your eyes, but, it's true. I'd be sitting there arguing with me about coming in here and facing the music 6+ months after the dirty deed was done. It's easy to sit here and say I'd a showed my ass, but, I couldn't say for sure until I'm faced with such a monstrosity as 5-5 with Kobe wearing that shit bag. I just hope I never have to make that decision, Heelster.
You would not have shown your ass. You've demonstrated that you can dish it but can't take it

Thread
12-29-2013, 03:28 PM
You would not have shown your ass.

I think yer right.

Killakobe81
12-29-2013, 03:48 PM
Wade is the best beta of the past 10 years is doing well riding LeBron to two more rings

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 03:48 PM
Wade is the best beta of the past 10 years is doing well riding LeBron to two more rings

2010 playoffs

How many times did Kirby get bailed out by Artest & Pau?

Thread
12-29-2013, 04:07 PM
2010 playoffs

How many times did Kirby get bailed out by Artest

That pass in didn't happen by osmosis.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:13 PM
That pass in didn't happen by osmosis.

Artest was the MVP of that game.

Thread
12-29-2013, 04:15 PM
Artest was the MVP of that game.

If Kobe doesn't sign off on Artest---Kup & Jim never permit him to step foot in Staples.

DPG21920
12-29-2013, 04:18 PM
If Kobe doesn't sign off on Artest---Kup & Jim never permit him to step foot in Staples.

If Kobe doesn't sign that new contract, the Lakers would have a chance to win in the next 3 years versus being mediocre to poor. So tit for tat.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:18 PM
If Kobe doesn't sign off on Artest---Kup & Jim never permit him to step foot in Staples.

If Artest doesn't rebound Kirby's airball vs Phoenix, Lakers face a Game 7 in the WCF.

LkrFan
12-29-2013, 04:26 PM
:lol @ this silly thread. This clown is what, 31 and can't play b2bs? I wonder why? :lol If he was clean I'd give him a little credit. But he ain't. As far as I'm concerned, he's cheated his entire career (esp. in '06 Finals).

Thread
12-29-2013, 04:27 PM
If Artest doesn't rebound Kirby's airball vs Phoenix, Lakers face a Game 7 in the WCF.

& that was after Kobe signed off on him. Of course there has never been one single kudos given out to Kobe for that blessing (cept here). Why? Because the only way that was going to get cited if it Artest went bananas and showed his ass like he had at his prior settings. There was no % in Artest reforming, or, being reformed by Kobe's grace. This is the part of Media that incenses me and keeps me keen and sharp for the opportunity to open them up. Motherfuckers. I love to see Media spited.

Killakobe81
12-29-2013, 04:33 PM
:lol @ this silly thread. This clown is what, 31 and can't play b2bs? I wonder why? :lol If he was clean I'd give him a little credit. But he ain't. As far as I'm concerned, he's cheated his entire career (esp. in '06 Finals).

Wade playing with a potential Goat who is the GOAt SF ..shitty troll thread ....
Is Nosh the Goat PF of last 10 years?
1. Multiple all star selections
2. Only member of big 3 who played great throughout the 2011 Finals ...
3. And of course ....
Bosh with the. Rebound over to Allen ....bang!

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 04:37 PM
The 2 worst Finals perfromances belong to Lebron in 07 and 2011.

ambchang
12-29-2013, 04:41 PM
Wade is the best beta of the past 10 years is doing well riding LeBron to two more rings

That in and of itself would have made him the best SG the last ten years.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:42 PM
The 2 worst Finals perfromances belong to Lebron in 07 and 2011.

And Wade would be sitting at 4 with 2 FMVPs if Lebron didn't shit the bed, thanks for making my point :toast

Kirby stans deflecting per par, etc.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:44 PM
Wade playing with a potential Goat who is the GOAt SF ..shitty troll thread ....
Is Nosh the Goat PF of last 10 years?
1. Multiple all star selections
2. Only member of big 3 who played great throughout the 2011 Finals ...
3. And of course ....
Bosh with the. Rebound over to Allen ....bang!

Wade averaged 26.5 ppg 7 reb 5.2 apg on 54% shooting in the Finals with 1.5 bpg and 1.5 spg

Better Finals stats than Kirby's ever had :lmao

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 04:46 PM
And Wade would be sitting at 4 with 2 FMVPs if Lebron didn't shit the bed, thanks for making my point :toast

Kirby stans deflecting per par, etc.
04-13

Kobe 10 All-NBA First Teams, 2 Scoring titles, 1 MVP, 2 Finals MVPs
Wade 2 All-NBA First Teams, 1 Scoring title, 0 MVPs, 1 Finals MVP

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:48 PM
Kirby vs Wade, best Finals series:

1.Wade 06 Finals
2.Wade 2012 Finals
3.Kirby's 2009 Finals
4.Wade's 2012 Finals
5.Wade's 2013 Finals

Kirby's best Finals series in the last 10 years was 32 ppg on 43% shooting :lol

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 04:49 PM
Wade averaged 26.5 ppg 7 reb 5.2 apg on 54% shooting in the Finals with 1.5 bpg and 1.5 spg

Better Finals stats than Kirby's ever had :lmao
Kobe 2002 Finals vs #1 Defense rated Nets: 26.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 bpg, 51.4 FG%, 54.5 3P%, 80.6 FT%, 62.3 TS%

D-Wade
12-29-2013, 04:50 PM
There are a lot of Wade fans on ISH. And Bosh fans too. Part of it is that there are a lot of Bron haters and they're trying to minimize his accomplishments and impact, but it's nice that people remember the days when Wade was an undisputed superstar. Wasn't too long ago either. His effort against the Mavs in 2011 was beautiful.:cry

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 04:51 PM
Kirby vs Wade, best Finals series:

1.Wade 06 Finals
2.Wade 2012 Finals
3.Kirby's 2009 Finals
4.Wade's 2012 Finals
5.Wade's 2013 Finals

Kirby's best Finals series in the last 10 years was 32 ppg on 43% shooting :lol
Wade has played weaker defenses in the Finals. Kobe has played the #1 defense 4 times and a top 5 defense 6 times.

Kobe outscored Dallas by himself 62 to 61 in 3 quarters vs the Mavs in 2005-06 season, that was Wade's 06 Finals opponent.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:53 PM
04-13

Kobe 10 All-NBA First Teams, 2 Scoring titles, 1 MVP, 2 Finals MVPs
Wade 2 All-NBA First Teams, 1 Scoring title, 0 MVPs, 1 Finals MVP

Rings > All-NBA

Wade with a scrub cast in 09(Beasley 2nd best player :lol): 30.2 ppg 5 rpg 7.2 apg 1.8 spg 1.1 bpg 49.1% FG
better than any of Kirby's seasons

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:54 PM
Wade has played weaker defenses in the Finals. Kobe has played the #1 defense 4 times and a top 5 defense 6 times.

Kobe outscored Dallas by himself 62 to 61 in 3 quarters vs the Mavs in 2005-06 season, that was Wade's 06 Finals opponent.

so, one regular season game by Kirby > Wade's Finals series? :lmao

3 > 2

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:57 PM
Wade's 05-06 season(3rd year in the NBA) 27.2 ppg 5.7 rpg 6.7 apg 1.9 spg 0.8 bpg 49,5% shooting

Wade's the more efficient scorer + better playmaker and miles ahead a better defender :lol, and he's had knee issues since he entered the league

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 04:58 PM
There are a lot of Wade fans on ISH. And Bosh fans too. Part of it is that there are a lot of Bron haters and they're trying to minimize his accomplishments and impact, but it's nice that people remember the days when Wade was an undisputed superstar. Wasn't too long ago either. His effort against the Mavs in 2011 was beautiful.:cry
Lets not forget how he got carried by Lebron AND Bosh in the 2011 ECF
18.8 ppg (3rd on team)
6.8 rpg
2.0 apg
4.0 t/o
40.5 FG%
49.8 TS%

11 Bulls were the #1 rated defense

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 04:59 PM
D-Wade , hook me up with the image from your old sig where young Wade embarrssed Kirby h2h

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:02 PM
Lets not forget how he got carried by Lebron AND Bosh in the 2011 ECF
18.8 ppg (3rd on team)
6.8 rpg
2.0 apg
4.0 t/o
40.5 FG%
49.8 TS%

11 Bulls were the #1 rated defense

Glad you brought that up.

Kirby's series vs Thunder in 2010

23.5 ppg 4 rpg 4.3 apg 1.3 spg 0.2 bpg 3.5 TOV 40,8% shooting, series goes 6 games with OKC being the underdogs, Pau hits the game-winner after Kirby bricks a fadeaway to put the series away. :lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5H6GrP9qHU

D-Wade
12-29-2013, 05:04 PM
Lets not forget how he got carried by Lebron AND Bosh in the 2011 ECF
18.8 ppg (3rd on team)
6.8 rpg
2.0 apg
4.0 t/o
40.5 FG%
49.8 TS%

11 Bulls were the #1 rated defense

He's always struggled in Chicago. I think it's more of a mental thing, at least in his prime. But he showed up when it mattered:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgLMI784M4E

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:05 PM
Wade is also 10-8 against Kirby H2H

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:10 PM
Kobe 2001-2013

28.1 ppg (#1)
5.7 rpg
5.2 apg
1.6 spg
0.5 bpg
3.2 t/o
45.4 FG%
33.6 3P%
84.1 FT%
55.7 TS%

13x All-Star
13x All-NBA Team
11x All-NBA First Team
4x Champion
2x Scoring Champion
2x Finals MVP
1x League MVP

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:12 PM
Kobe 2001-2013

28.1 ppg (#1)
5.7 rpg
5.2 apg
1.6 spg
0.5 bpg
3.2 t/o
45.4 FG%
33.6 3P%
84.1 FT%
55.7 TS%

13x All-Star
13x All-NBA Team
11x All-NBA First Team
4x Champion
2x Scoring Champion
2x Finals MVPs
1x League MVP

:lol

of course you bring up the years that Wade wasn't even in the league

My criteria was the last 10 years. 2003-13

dumb Kirby stan delfecting per par

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:14 PM
:lol

of course you bring up the years that Wade wasn't even in the league

My criteria was the last 10 years. 2003-13

dumb Kirby stan delfecting per par
2003-2013 is 11 years

10 All-NBA First teams to 2 for Wade in 04-13.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Dwyane Wade last 10 seasons

24 ppg
4.9 rpg
5.9 apg
1.7 spg
1.0 bpg
49% FG
56,7%TS
25.4 PER
111 ORTG
103 DRTG
3x NBA Champion
NBA Finals MVP

Kirby last 10 years
28.1 ppg
5.5 rpg
5.2 apg
1.5 spg
0.4 bpg
45,2% FG
55,9% TS
112 ORTG
106 DRTG
24.1 PER
2x NBA Champion
2X Finals MVP

:downspin:

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:19 PM
2003-2013 is 11 years

10 All-NBA First teams to 2 for Wade in 04-13.

Like I said Rings > NBA 1st teams, Wade had 4 out of the 5 best Finals series if you combine the two players, Wade's worst finals (2013, in which he had a Game 7 shooting above 50% and having 23 and 10) is better than any series Kirby had except for 2009.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:20 PM
Kobe was voted player of the decade. Wade wasn't top 3 in 00s or 10s.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:21 PM
Like I said Rings > NBA 1st teams, Wade had 4 out of the 5 best Finals series if you combine the two players, Wade's worst finals (2013, in which he had a Game 7 shooting above 50% and having 23 and 10) is better than any series Kirby had except for 2009.
Well that's cool because Kobe 5, Duncan 4.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:22 PM
2003-2013 is 11 years

10 All-NBA First teams to 2 for Wade in 04-13.

I'm obviously talking about Wade's 10 years in the NBA, he started playing in the NBA at the beginning of the 2003-2004 season, 10 years from that is the beginning of the 2013-14 season.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:24 PM
I'm obviously talking about Wade's 10 years in the NBA, he started playing in the NBA at the beginning of the 2003-2004 season, 10 years from that is the beginning of the 2013-14 season.
No, that's 11 years

2003-04 to 2012-13 is 10 years

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:24 PM
Kobe was voted player of the decade. Wade wasn't top 3 in 00s or 10s.

Decade: 2000-2010, Kirby had a 3 year advantage over Wade in that decade, as Wade started playing in 2003, and Kirby had already played 6 seasons by then.

LkrFan
12-29-2013, 05:24 PM
Wade playing with a potential Goat who is the GOAt SF ..shitty troll thread ....
Is Nosh the Goat PF of last 10 years?
1. Multiple all star selections
2. Only member of big 3 who played great throughout the 2011 Finals ...
3. And of course ....
Bosh with the. Rebound over to Allen ....bang!
Word Killa. Woooooord!! :toast

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:25 PM
No, that's 11 years

2003-04 to 2012-13 is 10 years

yes. and not including the 2013-14 season, which is clearly what I said you dumb fuck. 2012-13 was last season, jesus fucking christ.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:25 PM
Decade: 2000-2010, Kirby had a 3 year advantage over Wade in that decade, as Wade started playing in 2003, and Kirby had already played 6 seasons by then.
00s Decade was 2000-2009, 2010 is part of the 2010s

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:25 PM
Wade won 3 titles from 03-04 to 2012-13, Kirby won 2

3 > 2

end of discussion.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:26 PM
You can't even do basic math clown.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:27 PM
Wade won 3 titles from 03-04 to 2012-13, Kirby won 2

3 > 2

end of discussion.
Ok, so what about Kobe vs Duncan. 5 > 4.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:27 PM
00s Decade was 2000-2009, 2010 is part of the 2010s

2010 counts you dumb fuck, they gave the award out in February of 2010.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:28 PM
You can't even do basic math clown.

What the fuck are you talking about? Wade entered the league in 2003, 10 years from 2003 is 2013. If you're born in 2003 you'd become 10 years old in 2013, dumb fuck.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:28 PM
2010 counts you dumb fuck, they gave the award out in February of 2010.
Yeah because the decade ended in Dec 31, 2009. You give out the award when the decade is over.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:29 PM
Ok, so what about Kobe vs Duncan. 5 > 4.

That's not what this thread is about.

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:30 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? Wade entered the league in 2003, 10 years from 2003 is 2013. If you're born in 2003 you'd become 10 years old in 2013, dumb fuck.
Wade's rookie year was 2003-04, which is known was 2004 basketball wise. We don't call this season 2013, that was last season, this season in 2014.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:30 PM
Yeah because the decade ended in Dec 31, 2009. You give out the award when the decade is over.

But he got the award in 2010. And he still had a 3 year head star over Wade in that decade.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:30 PM
Wade's rookie year was 2003-04, which is known was 2004 basketball wise. We don't call this season 2013, that was last season, this season in 2014.

But I'm not counting THIS SEASON

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:31 PM
That's not what this thread is about.
Well Kobe 5, Duncan 4. So it's not even a debate that Kobe > Duncan, using your logic right?

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 05:32 PM
But I'm not counting THIS SEASON
I know. 2003-04 is known as 2004, not 2003. 2003 was 2002-03.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:32 PM
Anyways, I'm not going to spend time arguing semantics with you, I'm busy watching football.

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 05:34 PM
Well Kobe 5, Duncan 4. So it's not even a debate that Kobe > Duncan, using your logic right?

Pretty much. Duncan shat the bed when he had the chance to tie the ring count.

lefty
12-29-2013, 05:59 PM
Wade was kinda awesome vs Portland yesterday

D-Wade
12-29-2013, 06:00 PM
D-Wade (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42947) , hook me up with the image from your old sig where young Wade embarrssed Kirby h2h

http://oi44.tinypic.com/xd6o2x.jpg


Full highlights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LBxmuNJk8o

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 06:03 PM
http://oi44.tinypic.com/xd6o2x.jpg


Full highlights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LBxmuNJk8o

Wade with 40 pts 4 reb 11 ast 4 stl 4 blk
Kirby 16 pts 2 reb 4 ast 1 stl 4-17 shooting :lmao

Deuce Bigalow
12-29-2013, 08:21 PM
Wade with 40 pts 4 reb 11 ast 4 stl 4 blk
Kirby 16 pts 2 reb 4 ast 1 stl 4-17 shooting :lmao
Kobe 27-4-6 6/10 shooting
Wade 10-1-1 4/10 shooting

Kobe 37-8-6 12/30 shooting
Wade 18-4-5 5/15 shooting

Kobe 33-5-2 10/15 shooting
Wade 19-5-9 7/17 shooting

Kobe 33-3-1 14/23 shooting
Wade 16-4-5 7/17 shooting

AchillesHeel
12-29-2013, 08:24 PM
Kobe 27-4-6 6/10 shooting
Wade 10-1-1 4/10 shooting

Kobe 37-8-6 12/30 shooting
Wade 18-4-5 5/15 shooting

Kobe 33-5-2 10/15 shooting
Wade 19-5-9 7/17 shooting

Kobe 33-3-1 14/23 shooting
Wade 16-4-5 7/17 shooting

took you 2 hours to respond

Like I said, 3 > 2, I don't care about much else.

Jodelo
12-29-2013, 09:04 PM
Deuce Bigalow is retarded as fuck! :lol

lefty
01-02-2014, 09:23 PM
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/831429090.gif?1388715157

Calispursfan11
01-02-2014, 09:52 PM
OP's takes are usually pretty good but I can't agree that 3 is better than rapist at the moment, notwithstanding the stats. I'm not sure 3 is even better than Manu, all things considered.

Thread
01-02-2014, 09:57 PM
OP's takes are usually pretty good but I can't agree that 3 is better than rapist at the moment, notwithstanding the stats. I'm not sure 3 is even better than Manu, all things considered.

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

Calispursfan11
01-02-2014, 10:03 PM
You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

Tbh I was complimenting rapist tbh old friend :toast And tbh, if you agree kobe raped which you seem to (i.e. "your Neal raped as well"), then it shouldn't be an issue when I refer to kobe as rapist regardless of former Spur choo choo, no? :toast