lol: Pop sitting Duncan with 28 seconds left was a last-second decision

[irishock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjZvEPbqMmg

8:36


Jesus christ, pop.. Duncan would have had that rebound for sure after the initial tip by leonard

[Arnold Toht]

http://oi39.tinypic.com/21ce6br.jpg


You had him, dead in the fucking water.

[lefty]

:cry Anal Tit stop pls

[irishock]

Anal Tit

:lmao

[Arnold Toht]

You've only yourself to blame, bastards.

[Sean Cagney]

Still A MAVS FAN! Says your TEAM.....

[TE]

smh at second look....how the fuck can a team lose a five point game with that much time left? It just wasn't meant to be

[AchillesHeel]

smh at second look....how the fuck can a team lose a five point game with that much time left? It just wasn't meant to be

Miami had 0 timeouts too :bang

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http://oi39.tinypic.com/21ce6br.jpg


You had him, dead in the fucking water.

Arn

[Rogue]

Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
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Team Timeout : Short



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Bosh Substitution replaced by Miller


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[MIA 92-94]
James 3pt Shot: Made (30 PTS) Assist: Miller (2 AST)


Team Timeout : Regular
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Diaw Substitution replaced by Duncan
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Miller Foul: Personal (5 PF) (2 FTA)


Leonard Free Throw 1 of 2 Missed
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Team Rebound
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Miller Substitution replaced by Bosh


Duncan Substitution replaced by Diaw
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Leonard Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS)
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James 3pt Shot: Missed



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Bosh Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)



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[MIA 95-95]
Allen 3pt Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Bosh (2 AST)


Diaw Substitution replaced by Duncan
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Parker Fadeaway Jump Shot: Missed
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Team Rebound
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END OF 4TH QUARTER

[Thread]

Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
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[SAS 94-89]




00:28.2
Team Timeout : Short



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Bosh Substitution replaced by Miller


Duncan Substitution replaced by Diaw
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James 3pt Shot: Missed



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Miller Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)



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[MIA 92-94]
James 3pt Shot: Made (30 PTS) Assist: Miller (2 AST)


Team Timeout : Regular
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Diaw Substitution replaced by Duncan
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Miller Foul: Personal (5 PF) (2 FTA)


Leonard Free Throw 1 of 2 Missed
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Team Rebound
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Miller Substitution replaced by Bosh


Duncan Substitution replaced by Diaw
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Leonard Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS)
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James 3pt Shot: Missed



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Bosh Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)



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[MIA 95-95]
Allen 3pt Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Bosh (2 AST)


Diaw Substitution replaced by Duncan
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Parker Fadeaway Jump Shot: Missed
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Team Rebound
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END OF 4TH QUARTER - Cubby pulls lever on Lazy Boy and comes a runnin'.

[Killakobe81]

At 19.4 Spo went "big" ... Subbing in Bosh for Miller ...
Pop subs in Diaw for the greatest pf in NBA history.
The greatest sf bricks a clutch 3
Bosh now the tallest big secures the rebound
As the one if the best foreign players Manu falls leaving ...
The greatest 3point shooter open long enough for ....
Bang.
Tie game.

[irishock]

Pop replaced Duncan fucking twice :lol

[Killakobe81]

Just like that 5 went from near certainty to lost for all eternity as that replay will live in infamy every June.

[irishock]

:lol TDMVPDPOY come here and explain the

Parker Fadeaway Jump Shot: Missed
00:00.6

[Killakobe81]

Top 5 coach all time ...out smarted by Spo?!

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lost for all eternity

Killa

[PingPong]

It's what happens when you have a senile military as your coach.

[RsxPiimp]

http://oi39.tinypic.com/21ce6br.jpg


You had him, dead in the fucking water.

:lol how can you fucking blow a game like that

[whitemamba]

I still dont understand why you would have a top rebounder on the team sitting on the bench when you are a missed shot and a rebound away from a championship...

[Expert]

Vogel did the same thing. pop is notorious for sitting Tim late in games even close games. champions must play 48 minutes of basketball. They did not so they lost.

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I still dont understand why you would have a top rebounder on the team sitting on the bench when you are a missed shot and a rebound away from a championship...

It's like Saban Vs. Auburn:::why would you not kick a chip shot FB and put Auburn to sleep. Success breeds contempt and it breeds recklessness especially with white American males.

[DAF86]

http://oi39.tinypic.com/21ce6br.jpg

You had him, dead in the fucking water.

Seeing the pain that Lebron's B2B has caused on Lakers fans almost makes up for the choked championship, tbh.

[DAF86]

I still dont understand why you would have a top rebounder on the team sitting on the bench when you are a missed shot and a rebound away from a championship...

Heat had no other choice but to shoot a three. Pop wanted guys that could keep up with the Heat's shooters wey beyond the three point line, Duncan isn't that kind of guy. Defense gets the rebound 70+% of the time on that kind of situations no matter how many midgets you have on the court. Pop played the percentages.

Maybe we would have gotten the rebound with Duncan on the court but maybe a Heat player would have gotten a wide open look and made the three in the first try too.

[MolaMola790]

At 19.4 Spo went "big" ... Subbing in Bosh for Miller ...
Pop subs in Diaw for the greatest pf in NBA history.
The greatest sf bricks a clutch 3
Bosh now the tallest big secures the rebound
As the one if the best foreign players Manu falls leaving ...
The greatest 3point shooter open long enough for ....
Bang.
Tie game.

as a huge spurs fan, i have to admit, pretty stupid.

[HI-FI]

Seeing the pain that Lebron's B2B has caused on Lakers fans almost makes up for the choked championship, tbh.
i thought this as well, only to remember a lot of laker fans are bandwagoners and already rooting for Lebron, like Thread et al....

[lefty]

Lol pop.
Lol overrated.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

To this day I haven't seen a replay of the last 28 seconds.

What pisses me off the most is that they ALLOWED the Heat to shoot so many open 3's in the end.

Isn't the rule you allow the losing to get the easy two, but NEVER give up the easy 3? LeBron had nobody around him for miles.

Spurs failing to ring this year will only make the 2013 mishap feel worse and worse.

Then again after the 2012 debacle, I never thought the Spurs would get that close again for some time.

[RD2191]

To this day I haven't seen a replay of the last 28 seconds.

What pisses me off the most is that they ALLOWED the Heat to shoot so many open 3's in the end.

Isn't the rule you allow the losing to get the easy two, but NEVER give up the easy 3? LeBron had nobody around him for miles.

Spurs failing to ring this year will only make the 2013 mishap feel worse and worse.

Then again after the 2012 debacle, I never thought the Spurs would get that close again for some time.
I still haven't seen it either since it happened, maybe one day.:depressed

[TE]

When Parker scores that shot over Chalmers you can just feel that the Spurs are gonna take that shit. I remember the feeling when it happened. Then we get a turnover, free throws...up 5...fuck, why man, why?...

[RD2191]

When Parker scores that shot over Chalmers you can just feel that the Spurs are gonna take that shit. I remember the feeling when it happened. Then we get a turnover, free throws...up 5...fuck, why man, why?...
:cryI was in Corpus working and my dad got called in, told me to call him only if we won. He answered when Ray Allen hit that 3. FML

[TE]

:cryI was in Corpus working and my dad got called in, told me to call him only if we won. He answered when Ray Allen hit that 3. FML
I was at home...drunk as fuck but so keen of the situation. Indescribable feeling leading up to 28 seconds...when it went OT, it dawned to me that we weren't gonna pull it off. After the game everything felt like a bad breakup. I remember falling asleep right after not even wanting to watch ESPN or TV for that matter...then waking up at 6 am. It was such a brutal loss to take in as a fan that I still had that pain in my chest.

[DMC]

Seeing the pain that Lebron's B2B has caused on Lakers fans almost makes up for the choked championship, tbh.

This is absolutely true. I'd take the ring, but the 2nd best thing is Lakers fans who wanted it worse than we did because they want to shield their pseudo-GOAT from the inevitable "James > Jordan" conversation where Kobe is left out. They didn't give a shit that it was the Spurs. Hell, the whole of LG.com was rooting for SA.

[spurraider21]

When Parker scores that shot over Chalmers you can just feel that the Spurs are gonna take that shit. I remember the feeling when it happened. Then we get a turnover, free throws...up 5...fuck, why man, why?...
parker's 3 over bron tied it, the shot over chalmers put us up 2. after the turnover manu hit 2 free throws to put us up 4. they lost it again, and then manu made 1-2 to get us up 5. then 6 ensued

[DMC]

When Parker scores that shot over Chalmers you can just feel that the Spurs are gonna take that shit. I remember the feeling when it happened. Then we get a turnover, free throws...up 5...fuck, why man, why?...

I never felt that way. I would have been shocked if the Spurs held on. I saw it at the beginning of the 4th when Manu was being the ball boy for the Heat. I knew when I saw Pop's substitutions like it was a regular season game. I had no doubt, none.

[Thread]

When Parker scores that shot over Chalmers you can just feel that the Spurs are gonna take that shit. I remember the feeling when it happened.

Expound on that, TE, if you'd be so gracious. Seriously, I won't break your ass, or, bust your balls. I just like to hear about those moments.

[RD2191]

I was at home...drunk as fuck but so keen of the situation. Indescribable feeling leading up to 28 seconds...when it went OT, it dawned to me that we weren't gonna pull it off. After the game everything felt like a bad breakup. I remember falling asleep right after not even wanting to watch ESPN or TV for that matter...then waking up at 6 am. It was such a brutal loss to take in as a fan that I still had that pain in my chest.
Fukin suxs man, tbh. I know no one deserves anything in life but I really thought Tim deserved that 5th ring. Fukin team with Birdman gets a ring? Bullshit.

[RD2191]

The game was really lost when Pop put the bench in with a 10 point lead at the start of the 4th, play your fukin starters, man. Wtf was he saving them for? Game 7? Pop fucked up big time, tbh.

[Thread]

Expound on that, TE, if you'd be so gracious. Seriously, I won't break your ass, or, bust your balls. I just like to hear about those moments.

[[[I was at home...drunk as fuck but so keen of the situation. Indescribable feeling leading up to 28 seconds...when it went OT, it dawned to me that we weren't gonna pull it off. After the game everything felt like a bad breakup. I remember falling asleep right after not even wanting to watch ESPN or TV for that matter...then waking up at 6 am. It was such a brutal loss to take in as a fan that I still had that pain in my chest.]]]

Easily visualized.

Danka.

[RD2191]

I think I'm talking about Game 7.

[RD2191]

nvm, spurs did have a 10 point lead heading to the 4th

[DMC]

Fukin suxs man, tbh. I know no one deserves anything in life but I really thought Tim deserved that 5th ring. Fukin team with Birdman gets a ring? Bullshit.

Birdman put in some work. Tim had his chances, that's all anyone can ask for. If you told the Spurs they'd have 5 minutes 0-0 against the defending champs to win the ring, they'd take it 100 times out of 100.

[DMC]

[[[I was at home...drunk as fuck but so keen of the situation. Indescribable feeling leading up to 28 seconds...when it went OT, it dawned to me that we weren't gonna pull it off. After the game everything felt like a bad breakup. I remember falling asleep right after not even wanting to watch ESPN or TV for that matter...then waking up at 6 am. It was such a brutal loss to take in as a fan that I still had that pain in my chest.]]]

Easily visualized.

Danka.




At 6am.. lol Dale you're rollin right along.

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^^^You fellows are finally emerging from your mass state of shock and are confronting your feelings, acknowledging what had happened and putting it into "words." I'm not a psychologist, but, I'll bet this is normal behavior for what transpired then. 6 months is probably a watershed time line. I won't kick ya's.

[DMC]

^^^You fellows are finally emerging from your mass state of shock and are confronting your feelings, acknowledging what had happened and putting it into "words." I'm not a psychologist, but, I'll bet this is normal behavior for what transpired then. 6 months is probably a watershed time line. I won't kick ya's.

you will, but that's ok. I'll take it over what happened to yall. As much as fans will say otherwise, I'd take that close loss over that 40pt blowout you guys got, or that sweep you had last year. When an old small market team can scare the shit out of the corporate giant preassembled juggernauts, and sweep the league sweethearts, I'm content.

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At 6am.. lol Dale you're rollin right along.

And the kicker? Switch the losing a ring with a winning a ring and I'd be feeling basically the same as TE described: chest pains, bouts of sleeping & sleeplessness, indescribable feelings, at home, yer right= the 6am self torturing session of thinking "what would have happened if I'd lost."

[Thread]

you will, but that's ok. I'll take it over what happened to yall. As much as fans will say otherwise, I'd take that close loss over that 40pt blowout you guys got, or that sweep you had last year. When an old small market team can scare the shit out of the corporate giant preassembled juggernauts, and sweep the league sweethearts, I'm content.

Well, of course I'll kick ya's...just at another juncture, another day. It's nice seeing you fellows expose yourselves this way. I would never take advantage in such a situation.

[DMC]

And the kicker? Switch the losing a ring with a winning a ring and I'd be feeling basically the same as TE described: chest pains, bouts of sleeping & sleeplessness, indescribable feelings, at home, yer right= the 6am self torturing session of thinking "what would have happened if I'd lost."

I don't know why... 4>0 and forever imo

[DMC]

Well, of course I'll kick ya's...just at another juncture, another day. It's nice seeing you fellows expose yourselves this way. I would never take advantage in such a situation.

I've not said anything new. I've maintained this claim throughout.

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I've not said anything new. I've maintained this claim throughout.

Christ, yer a hard ass.

[LkrFan]

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[MIA 92-94]

James 3pt Shot: Made (30 PTS) Assist: Miller (2 AST)



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Miller Foul: Personal (5 PF) (2 FTA)



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James 3pt Shot: Missed




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[MIA 95-95]

Allen 3pt Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Bosh (2 AST)



Diaw Substitution replaced by Duncan

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Parker Fadeaway Jump Shot: Missed

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Team Rebound

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END OF 4TH QUARTER





Which kept it at Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[Kool Bob Love]

:toast

[Budkin]

I still haven't seen it either since it happened, maybe one day.:depressed

Me either. Why bother, it still plays over and over in my head. I still haven't even watched Manu foul Dirk since that happened. As a Spurs fan it's just pure fucking agony thinking about it. Not shit you can do though but accept that it happened and it's never going to go away. Let it be a lesson to all that the game is played to the final buzzer, not to 28.2.

[Budkin]

^^^You fellows are finally emerging from your mass state of shock and are confronting your feelings, acknowledging what had happened and putting it into "words." I'm not a psychologist, but, I'll bet this is normal behavior for what transpired then. 6 months is probably a watershed time line. I won't kick ya's.

Cub you've been there before. You know the pain. You just like to mess with us poor Spurs fans. :lol

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Me either. Why bother, it still plays over and over in my head. I still haven't even watched Manu foul Dirk since that happened. As a Spurs fan it's just pure fucking agony thinking about it. Not shit you can do though but accept that it happened and it's never going to go away. Let it be a lesson to all that the game is played to the final buzzer, not to 28.2.


Cub you've been there before. You know the pain.

Yep, I hold the losses closer than the rings. Especially '84, but, also '08. We weren't good enough in '84, but, '08 was a waste of an opportunity. That was Kobe's failure. It was his ground & responsibility to stop the bleeding up 21. And unlike Magic in '84 Kobe never had to answer for '08. It just wasn't done that way anymore.

'09 & '10 numb it though and as you get older the sharp picture becomes distant mixed with all the other pictures of denial and harm.

For you guys you'd never been denied. Now you have that piece taken from your heart. And you missed the occasion of being tortured by Media over it. That's what made '85 so very special. I cried harder in '85 than I did in '84. I was alone in Lakewood, Ohio, Girl and the boys had went to her mother's house for the day. I just sat there in a state of shock after we'd rung in Boston. I was just drained and the tears came in sheets. It was so fucking quiet as I'd turned off the TV, sat in the dark and cried. It was like an out of body experience. I wasn't sure it had happened so I called that telephone number they had back then for sports scores and listened to that.

What an ordeal.

[DMC]

Which kept it at Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! :rollin :lmao :rollin

Jesus fucking christ act like a goddamned officer instead of a child.

[DMC]

Yep, I hold the losses closer than the rings. Especially '84, but, also '08. We weren't good enough in '84, but, '08 was a waste of an opportunity. That was Kobe's failure. It was his ground & responsibility to stop the bleeding up 21. And unlike Magic in '84 Kobe never had to answer for '08. It just wasn't done that way anymore.

'09 & '10 numb it though and as you get older the sharp picture becomes distant mixed with all the other pictures of denial and harm.

For you guys you'd never been denied. Now you have that piece taken from your heart. And you missed the occasion of being tortured by Media over it. That's what made '85 so very special. I cried harder in '85 than I did in '84. I was alone in Lakewood, Ohio, Girl and the boys had went to her mother's house for the day. I just sat there in a state of shock after we'd rung in Boston. I was just drained and the tears came in sheets. It was so fucking quiet as I'd turned off the TV, sat in the dark and cried. It was like an out of body experience. I wasn't sure it had happened so I called that telephone number they had back then for sports scores and listened to that.

What an ordeal.

How about in 2004? You were stacked and stats indicate that daddy was the key but Kobe had other ideas. I think that ring was yours. Hell Robert Horry beat the team that beat your immoveable object/unstoppable force.

[Killakobe81]

Seeing the pain that Lebron's B2B has caused on Lakers fans almost makes up for the choked championship, tbh.

Bothers me little, great player potential GOAT ...not a big fan of stdwade I was for a while smart cat will always have one up on Bron ...

[DAF86]

Bothers me little, great player potential GOAT ...not a big fan of stdwade I was for a while smart cat will always have one up on Bron ...

Wouldn't be so sure.

[Killakobe81]

But like cully said proud of posters who bared their soul ...I can't shit on 'em because I know that pain from 1984 ... By admitting it you are better men than the cowards that are still deflecting. You hate Kobe, the Lakers but this ain't got shit to do with THAT... Coming to grips will help until ABC and ESPN run dat replay all June.

[Buddy Mignon]

But like cully said proud of posters who bared their soul ...I can't shit on 'em because I know that pain from 1984 ... By admitting it you are better men than the cowards that are still deflecting. You hate Kobe, the Lakers but this ain't got shit to do with THAT... Coming to grips will help until ABC and ESPN run dat replay all June.

'84 still hurts.

[HI-FI]

I never felt that way. I would have been shocked if the Spurs held on. I saw it at the beginning of the 4th when Manu was being the ball boy for the Heat. I knew when I saw Pop's substitutions like it was a regular season game. I had no doubt, none.

I won't lie, I thought we could win it but my faith started trailing off in crunch time. It was a weird experience, I had surgery shortly before the FInals, so I was pretty doped up on painkillers throughout the first several games. But I wanted to see this possible finale in as clear a state as possible so I laid off the opiates for 24 hours, dealt with the pain, but after that shit went down I definitely medicated.

I was posting in the game thread, but IIRC, I stopped posting right around the beginning of the 4th quarter. The things that started to bother me were what you mentioned. Manu was so fucking reckless the entire series, except for game 5 but in game 6 it was like diarrhea that came right back. He played like he was at the park and couldn't wait to get home to take a shit or get some dinner.

As for Pop's substitutions, I got the feeling he was playing not to lose, like he figured this would go 7, whether by a Heat surge or the officials hooking them up. That's the only rationale I can think of, because he definitely didn't go for the jugular. So his substitutions and Manu gave me a sinking feeling.

You think Pop made a rational choice on pulling Duncan? I know that's the way he's done it in the past, but I still can't wrap my brain around that decision.

[DMC]

I won't lie, I thought we could win it but my faith started trailing off in crunch time. It was a weird experience, I had surgery shortly before the FInals, so I was pretty doped up on painkillers throughout the first several games. But I wanted to see this possible finale in as clear a state as possible so I laid off the opiates for 24 hours, dealt with the pain, but after that shit went down I definitely medicated.

I was posting in the game thread, but IIRC, I stopped posting right around the beginning of the 4th quarter. The things that started to bother me were what you mentioned. Manu was so fucking reckless the entire series, except for game 5 but in game 6 it was like diarrhea that came right back. He played like he was at the park and couldn't wait to get home to take a shit or get some dinner.

As for Pop's substitutions, I got the feeling he was playing not to lose, like he figured this would go 7, whether by a Heat surge or the officials hooking them up. That's the only rationale I can think of, because he definitely didn't go for the jugular. So his substitutions and Manu gave me a sinking feeling.

You think Pop made a rational choice on pulling Duncan? I know that's the way he's done it in the past, but I still can't wrap my brain around that decision.

Many choices seem irrational in hindsight, but the games where he's done that and won (we actually staged a comeback in a game where he did that) support his decision. He's a master, and unlike you and I doesn't get the benefit of hindsight. We would have left Duncan out there (I would have just because Tim deserves to be on the floor, win or lose), but Pop wanted to stop a 3 and he did but they didn't secure the rebound. If Duncan is out there, maybe James doesn't shoot the three because maybe Ray is wide open, or maybe James takes it to the hole and gets fouled. We want to think any other scenario and the Spurs win, but we ignore the fact that the Spurs didn't lose because of that 3. They didn't lose because they lost in OT. They lost because they lost game 7. Emotions be damned, the Heat were facing doom and had every reason to quit in game 6 but they didn't. Spurs weren't facing doom, they could play loose.

The Spurs best chance was at home. They gave HCA back to Miami. The series shouldn't have gone back to Miami at all. Once it did, I knew it was over. Still, the Spurs had opportunities to win several more times and didn't. Everyone wants to look at that end of regulation shot and it was big, no doubt but it wasn't the end of the series.

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(this is in response to Killa's last post.)

^But, they'll run with indifference...if they run it at all.

We were made fun of from June to June, '84 to '85. those two games in the interim, where we went there & they'd come to Los Angeles were the lightening rods of the humiliation. CBS was ready with the stick and they'd poke & they'd prod...the old standard:::"lunch pail" Vs "gaudy" Hollywood again & again & again. All that is what Spurs Fan does not receive. Their humiliation is suffered in silence...only they judge themselves. If they were as fortunate as we, Killa, they'd find their salvation in the next June and instead of coming for a thousand stone throwers, they'd just come after one (Dale).

But, they have no designated enemy...Miami & Media treated them with reverence and a blind eye. For that omission I pity them.

[DMC]

^But, they'll run with indifference...if they run it at all.

We were made fun of from June to June, '84 to '85. those two games in the interim, where we went there & they'd come to Los Angeles were the lightening rods of the humiliation. CBS was ready with the stick and they'd poke & they'd prod...the old standard:::"lunch pail" Vs "gaudy" Hollywood again & again & again. All that is what Spurs Fan does not receive. Their humiliation is suffered in silence...only they judge themselves. If they were as fortunate as we, Killa, they'd find their salvation in the next June and instead of coming for a thousand stone throwers, they'd just come after one (Dale).

But, they have no designated enemy...Miami & Media treated them with reverence and a blind eye. For that omission I pity them.

Well when you decide to bandwagon the best team in the league, or one of them, you've opened yourself up. There were teams much closer but you couldn't argue their greatness with your buddies so you chose a powerhouse to support. I happened to adopt the local team as mine, and they didn't really do shit for the first 15 years or so. I couldn't sit around debating whether my team or LA was the better franchise, no one argued Robinson over Kareem. Everyone here could have jumped on board for whatever team had the most wins back then, in every sport, and plenty did. I don't have any sympathy for them when it comes to the down years. You made your bed and basked in the glory you didn't earn. Now you want to play the victim card. Fuck off.

[Buddy Mignon]

Well when you decide to bandwagon the best team in the league, or one of them, you've opened yourself up. There were teams much closer but you couldn't argue their greatness with your buddies so you chose a powerhouse to support. I happened to adopt the local team as mine, and they didn't really do shit for the first 15 years or so. I couldn't sit around debating whether my team or LA was the better franchise, no one argued Robinson over Kareem. Everyone here could have jumped on board for whatever team had the most wins back then, in every sport, and plenty did. I don't have any sympathy for them when it comes to the down years. You made your bed and basked in the glory you didn't earn. Now you want to play the victim card. Fuck off.


Hey... why would you think I'd take a job i Israel?

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Well when you decide to bandwagon the best team in the league, or one of them, you've opened yourself up. There were teams much closer but you couldn't argue their greatness with your buddies so you chose a powerhouse to support. I happened to adopt the local team as mine, and they didn't really do shit for the first 15 years or so. I couldn't sit around debating whether my team or LA was the better franchise, no one argued Robinson over Kareem. Everyone here could have jumped on board for whatever team had the most wins back then, in every sport, and plenty did. I don't have any sympathy for them when it comes to the down years. You made your bed and basked in the glory you didn't earn. Now you want to play the victim card. Fuck off.

If it helps you to beat me with words, D, beat me. I will not respond in kind. This thread, this day is a trail of tears, six months delayed and denied the confession of our brothers. I will not sully it by rolling around with you in the dirt.

[DAF86]

'84 still hurts.

You didn't even have use of memory back then. GTFO.

[Thebesteva]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjZvEPbqMmg

8:36


Jesus christ, pop.. Duncan would have had that rebound for sure after the initial tip by leonard

EPIC EPIC EPIC fucking choke and it makes me sad to see because Lebron didnt earn it. It would have been the momemt Sauron collapsed like in LOTR for Spurs fans. No more trolling, no more jokes, 5=5, and Tim Duncan surpasses Kobe in fact because of the small market angle and level of talent. I still think Duncan is the GOAT PF but that collapse was too epic.

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EPIC EPIC EPIC fucking choke and it makes me sad to see because Lebron didnt earn it. It would have been the momemt Sauron collapsed like in LOTR for Spurs fans. No more trolling, no more jokes, 5=5, and Tim Duncan surpasses Kobe in fact because of the small market angle and level of talent. I still think Duncan is the GOAT PF but that collapse was too epic.

It would have been swell to watch Media in the aftermath of a Spurs victory there. They'd already isolated and prepared Bosh for the hanging tree, but, it would have been a fine study to see them in action protecting James, cultivating him for another day. And frankly the Spurs & Pop were the perfect foil in that scenario. Heaping praise on them & him--allowing James to slip out the back door and past where Bosh was stretched out under fine hemp rope from Home Depot. They were fortunate it though, it came off like they wanted. Still didn't stop Media from hammering that story about the Heat cutting loose Bosh in the 72 hours after it was over. Motherfuckers.

[LkrFan]

Jesus fucking christ act like a goddamned officer instead of a child.

Blasphemy doesn't change the fact that I'm right son. Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. Neal with it. :downspin:

[LkrFan]

If it helps you to beat me with words, D, beat me. I will not respond in kind. This thread, this day is a trail of tears, six months delayed and denied the confession of our brothers. I will not sully it by rolling around with you in the dirt.

Pssst! Thread!! Pass this to DMC:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSn263tz5SP2Clvau7jZzchXY14bfklT XEVPqOM6TidjA-CaGZ2Ixl-JQ

Obviously he's on the 6-month rag. :lol

[Bulaien999]

Just one more free throw from either Manu or Leonard....

[LkrFan]

I won't lie, I thought we could win it but my faith started trailing off in crunch time. It was a weird experience, I had surgery shortly before the FInals, so I was pretty doped up on painkillers throughout the first several games. But I wanted to see this possible finale in as clear a state as possible so I laid off the opiates for 24 hours, dealt with the pain, but after that shit went down I definitely medicated.

I was posting in the game thread, but IIRC, I stopped posting right around the beginning of the 4th quarter. The things that started to bother me were what you mentioned. Manu was so fucking reckless the entire series, except for game 5 but in game 6 it was like diarrhea that came right back. He played like he was at the park and couldn't wait to get home to take a shit or get some dinner.

As for Pop's substitutions, I got the feeling he was playing not to lose, like he figured this would go 7, whether by a Heat surge or the officials hooking them up. That's the only rationale I can think of, because he definitely didn't go for the jugular. So his substitutions and Manu gave me a sinking feeling.

You think Pop made a rational choice on pulling Duncan? I know that's the way he's done it in the past, but I still can't wrap my brain around that decision.
Did you get your tubes tied? :lol

Was it Midol or Preparation H? :lol

Just messing with you. Get on AIM dawg! :lol

[DMC]

If it helps you to beat me with words, D, beat me. I will not respond in kind. This thread, this day is a trail of tears, six months delayed and denied the confession of our brothers. I will not sully it by rolling around with you in the dirt.


Blasphemy doesn't change the fact that I'm right son. Kobe: 5, Donecan: 4. Neal with it. :downspin:


Hey... why would you think I'd take a job i Israel?


Pssst! Thread!! Pass this to DMC:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSn263tz5SP2Clvau7jZzchXY14bfklT XEVPqOM6TidjA-CaGZ2Ixl-JQ

Obviously he's on the 6-month rag. :lol

Ride em' in... rawhide!

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Ride em' in... rawhide!

They chose to roll around with you. I hold fast in the ranks, like I said I would.

[DMC]

They chose to roll around with you. I hold fast in the ranks, like I said I would.

Christ, yer a hard ass.

[HI-FI]

EPIC EPIC EPIC fucking choke and it makes me sad to see because Lebron didnt earn it. It would have been the momemt Sauron collapsed like in LOTR for Spurs fans. No more trolling, no more jokes, 5=5, and Tim Duncan surpasses Kobe in fact because of the small market angle and level of talent. I still think Duncan is the GOAT PF but that collapse was too epic.
cmon now, Duncan surpassed Kobe a long time ago. That's only a debate among people who are easily brainwashed by the media.....like BnrFan below.

Hard to say it's an epic choke when we were the underdogs the entire way. I was surprised it got as close as it did, and yes I thought we could pull off the upset but like DMC was saying, we lost homecourt and the defending champs, most likely mainlining PEDs, weren't going to go down easily. But yeah we got real close to taking down the corporate juggernaut. I think it was TE who made the analogy of 300 to the Spurs. They were the more imposing army, but our sense of execution is unrivaled, and for a moment we thought we were going to pull off the impossible, but it was too much. TE also said Manu was like that hunchback nigga who fucked things up, and that's pretty good analogy. We did however show that the Heat weren't invincible. Granted, the Mavs proved this first, but the Heat looked unstoppable this last season, like they were going to realize the "not 1...not 2....not 3" shit.

Did you get your tubes tied? :lol

Was it Midol or Preparation H? :lol

Just messing with you. Get on AIM dawg! :lol
:lol

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I still dont understand why you would have a top rebounder on the team sitting on the bench when you are a missed shot and a rebound away from a championship...

Neither can any body, the world doesn't understand what Pop was doing. The game was over. I have chills at this moment just trying to make sense of decision that poor and a collapse that monumental. Tim Duncan had his 5th ring, and at 37 years old beat "The Great Lebron James" at 28 years old. It's unfathomable the give away.

[Arnold Toht]

Neither can any body, the world doesn't understand what Pop was doing. The game was over. I have chills at this moment just trying to make sense of decision that poor and a collapse that monumental. Tim Duncan had his 5th ring, and at 37 years old beat "The Great Lebron James" at 28 years old. It's unfathomable the give away.

You had a chance to put Kobe>Duncan away for good. You blew it.



YOU BLEW IT!!!!!!

[ThaBigFundamental21]

You had a chance to put Kobe>Duncan away for good. You blew it.



YOU BLEW IT!!!!!!

I'm aware. TBH, your trolling would have been better suited a few months back. It would have hit hard. There is nothing that can really be said that hasn't already. So now I think you blew it, if you are going to troll, troll hard and effectively.

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^You have to take it, 21. You've been touched. You've been scarred. Sure, you'd be better off if it had not happened, but, at least you got to experience a sharp agony like absolutely none other.

[Arcadian]

It's like a tennis player with triple match point in the fourth set and still losing the match. But it doesn't change the fact that Lebron also choked and was bailed out by his overly-stacked team. He sure needed a lot of help to win those 2 titles. :lol

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It's like a tennis player with triple match point in the fourth set and still losing the match. But it doesn't change the fact that Lebron also choked and was bailed out by his overly-stacked team. He sure needed a lot of help to win those 2 titles. :lol

And yet, faced with imminent loss whom did Media target & prep for the tree of woe? Bosh. Separated him for the herd and got the marching orders & talking points dispersed. & he'll be the fall guy till they fall.

James is it. He is all there is---NYC & Media will not permit him to be touchedPERIOD

And the kicker? James wears it well. He's honestly unassuming and near childlike. If he weren't LeBron James he'd be dressed to the 9's and going door to door with the Latter Day Saints.

[Expert]

You had a chance to put Kobe>Duncan away for good. You blew it.



YOU BLEW IT!!!!!!
and you had a stacked team and could have put Michael Jordan your rear view mirror but you blew it.

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and you had a stacked team and could have put Michael Jordan your rear view mirror but you blew it.

& you had us this||close to extinction and the next thing you know:::a decade goes by and we ring 5 times. ha, ha.

[Expert]

And yet, faced with imminent loss whom did Media target & prep for the tree of woe? Bosh. Separated him for the herd and got the marching orders & talking points dispersed. & he'll be the fall guy till they fall.

James is it. He is all there is---NYC & Media will not permit him to be touchedPERIOD

And the kicker? James wears it well. He's honestly unassuming and near childlike. If he weren't LeBron James he'd be dressed to the 9's and going door to door with the Latter Day Saints.
this is a very interesting take. I know you probably don't mess with video games, but on NBA 2k14 there is a LeBron game mode where you have to overcome obstacles like the flu game, switching teams and playing on stacked teams things like that. It really made me laugh seeing all those different things and hearing LeBron actually say those things. What a fucking joke. Everyone is trying to be like Mike. of course there's the season where LeBron gets Kobe to come out of retirement and play however they do not make the finals that year and I thought that was funny. you are correct in your assessment that the media writes the script for the stuff. It's not nearly as dramatic as they make it seem.

[Killakobe81]

Thing is for me this is no troll job. I dont have the heart to troll someone on something like this.
I just want for the blokes on here that try to deflect to be honest with themselves if not with me or the forum.
Of course you would not trade away that heartbreak for the 1st round sweep, the Lakers suffered.
The begging was embarassing for a franchise like the Lakers.
But that sweep will fade.
Howard in the end will prove to be a "missed bullet".
But those last 28 seconds will haunt you always and another championship is the only remedy or salve but not a "cure".
People on here that deflect to the excuses we were happy to be there, Heat were loaded Lebron is the GOAT are only fooling themselves.
Dem Mavs succeeded where you failed just two seasons earlier. Pacers were also close last year. With a great coach, GOAT PF and that lead THAT late it is a collapse period.

I don't enjoy the misery because it feels to close to my own ... but I respect it and I empathize. Thje more they point at the Lakers payroll or the begging tells me how deep dat shit still hurts.

[Expert]

Thing is for me this is no troll job. I dont have the heart to troll someone on something like this.
I just want for the blokes on here that try to deflect to be honest with themselves if not with me or the forum.
Of course you would not trade away that heartbreak for the 1st round sweep, the Lakers suffered.
The begging was embarassing for a franchise like the Lakers.
But that sweep will fade.
Howard in the end will prove to be a "missed bullet".
But those last 28 seconds will haunt you always and another championship is the only remedy or salve but not a "cure".
People on here that deflect to the excuses we were happy to be there, Heat were loaded Lebron is the GOAT are only fooling themselves.
Dem Mavs succeeded where you failed just two seasons earlier. Pacers were also close last year. With a great coach, GOAT PF and that lead THAT late it is a collapse period.

I don't enjoy the misery because it feels to close to my own ... but I respect it and I empathize. Thje more they point at the Lakers payroll or the begging tells me how deep dat shit still hurts.
it's kind of ironic that Lakers fans seem more haunted by it then Spurs fans. Spurs fans have moved past it and are looking at this year already. Lakers fans keep looking back though at what could have been. That must be a symptom of having a really piss poor franchise right now.

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it's kind of ironic that Lakers fans seem more haunted by it then Spurs fans. Spurs fans have moved past it and are looking at this year already. Lakers fans keep looking back though at what could have been. That must be a symptom of having a really piss poor franchise right now.

Not true, x. SF is just now, in this very thread experiencing the grieving process that their subconscious refused to acknowledge for over six months. I think its remarkable.

[Killakobe81]

it's kind of ironic that Lakers fans seem more haunted by it then Spurs fans. Spurs fans have moved past it and are looking at this year already. Lakers fans keep looking back though at what could have been. That must be a symptom of having a really piss poor franchise right now.

Spur fans are in a state of denial as are Laker fans.
Some Laker fans think a title with Kobe as an alpha or a 2014 playoff run is still realistic ...
Spur fans are trying to find ways to cope.
Lashing out, deflection are all obvious signs.
REAL Laker fans that were there for 1984 get it, it hurts.
Younger or immature ones try to troll yall ... because they never had to really bare that sort of pain.
sure the Lakers have lost recently and dramatically, even in the finals ...when favored ...(2004 and 2008) but most of them... never experienced anything like "6" it's a game changer.

[Arcadian]

...the media writes the script for the stuff. It's not nearly as dramatic as they make it seem.

And this is true for all forms of media, not just sports. "Corporate news", what a joke. More like "corporate-sponsored misinformation and propaganda." Turn that shit off and use the internet, the last free domain for real information.

[Rogue]

I guess Tammy was just so aroused at the moment he had to sit down for a while to soften his cock down, otherwise the hard object would've obtruded and embarrassed everyone attending the game tbh.

[Captivus]

BUMP!