Is the George Hill "incident" the reason why we moved him?

[mute]

I'm not going to identify the specific incident because I know there are minors on this website and I don't want them to be googling these inappropriate things. But I just wanted to re-visit this trade from a few years back...

Does anyone think that the timing of the trade was really puzzling? Hill had just come off a career year and filled in admirable for Tony Parker before that. He was incredible in the Dallas series, and I saw the "it" factor (thanks Skip Bayless) in him. A reliable backup point guard has been our missing piece for the past three seasons, it was odd why the Spurs moved him without having any plan (very un-Spurs-like).

Hill was one of Gregg Popovich's favorite player and we know how much of an influence he has on personal (for those who don't know, Popovich was actually the Spurs' GM before he fired Bob Hill and named himself head coach). It's weird why he would move Hill like this.

George Hill had it all... he was athletic and long and played defense. He could also score at will and was getting better from downtown. Sure, we got a great talent in Kawhi Leonard, but I think we beat OKC and MIA if we had Hill instead of Parker. Parker is simply too small and got torched by the other teams guard on defense (Reggie Jackson, Norris Cole, Russell Westbook... and so on). Hill is bigger, stronger, and more athletic.

So you ask, who would have guarded Durant and Lebron? Well if we didn't deal for a SF (in Kawhi) we would have kept Keith Bogans, who went on to anchor one of the best defensive teams in the Bulls (finished 62-20 and ranked #1 defensively) while starting all 82 games, and we would have kept Alonzo Gee (who's now blossoming with the Cavs).

Did Hill get dealt because of his off the court fiasco or was this solely a basketball move? If basketball move, do you think the incident played a role? I think we made a mistake now that Hill (who's younger) is now the starting point guard of IND, who's now favored to come out the EAST.

[RD2191]

:lmao

[TheWriter]

No.

[Sean Cagney]

MUTE..... That says it all. Please MUTE like your name says, stop it.

[mute]

Sorry but, it kills me inside when I see our former future point guard light it up and star on a team will be perennial contenders for the next 8 yrs while we're about to be a lottery team post Duncan.

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry but, it kills meWe wish.

[Budkin]

Seriously, fuck off.

[rascal]

No, Hill was from Indiana and the pacers wanted him. The Spurs saw an opportunity to move up in the draft and get a player they liked .

[Uriel]

mute is the best troll in Spurstalk since KBP, imo. :lol

[mute]

No, Hill was from Indiana and the pacers wanted him. The Spurs saw an opportunity to move up in the draft and get a player they liked .

But this seems very un-spurslike, considering the importance of a reliable point guard of our system. Why the Spurs pull the trigger on a trade like this without having a backup plan in mind? (Unless, this incident was a deciding factor in Pop wanting to part from Hill)

[Bruno]

Should I mute, mute?

[TheWriter]

Should I mute, mute?


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[Sean Cagney]

Should I mute, mute?

YES TBH..

[Mikeanaro]

Should I mute, mute?


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[mute]

What am I actually doing wrong?? I'm posting on topic instead of random "nba meme comics" and calling Kobe Kirby and Duncan Jim and all of nonsense.

Making threads on...
- trades
- signings
- injuries
- game threads
- takes/game notes
- past Spurs events (memorable)

[Spursfanfromafar]

just don't allow him to create a thread again, pls, Bruno!

[313]

:lmao

8.3/10

[cd021]

Should I mute, mute?

Can we put that to a vote?

[cd021]

Best part of Mute is the random threads about how an player who has been out of the league for half a decade can "hypothetically" help the spurs.

[Flawless]

Mute should get pinked tbh..

[toki9]

I think the incident you're talking about happened in Feb of 2010...Kawhi was drafted in June of 2011...

[Mikeanaro]

I think the incident you're talking about happened in Feb of 2010...Kawhi was drafted in June of 2011...
For one year and a half the whole team was striving to hide the incident, it was too much too much, and after 500 days no one more or one less they got Kawhi, and the whole team agreed to never, ever speak about that incident again.

[mute]

Best part of Mute is the random threads about how an player who has been out of the league for half a decade can "hypothetically" help the spurs.

YEAH because the Spurs have a track record of being cheap going for the aron baynes and trying to sign d-leaguers like malchom thomas and desean butler.

if the spurs were actual spenders, id make threads for josh smith, kevin love, roy hibbert, and andre drummond

[RD2191]

Best part of Mute is the random threads about how an player who has been out of the league for half a decade can "hypothetically" help the spurs.
:lmao

[Mark in Austin]

if being an idiot is a ban-worthy offense, there would be a lot less users on this website.

[toki9]

So you ask, who would have guarded Durant and Lebron? Well if we didn't deal for a SF (in Kawhi) we would have kept Keith Bogans, who went on to anchor one of the best defensive teams in the Bulls (finished 62-20 and ranked #1 defensively) while starting all 82 games, and we would have kept Alonzo Gee (who's now blossoming with the Cavs).

You're arguing that Bogans/Gee can check Durant/Lebron?

[look_at_g_shred]

Should I mute, mute?
Please. This dude has the most horrific takes I've ever read. There so fucking stupid tha I have to read them twice to make sure I was sure what I just saw. I mean Keith fucking bogans checking durant/lebron instead of Kawhi? Give me a god damn break.

[mute]

You're arguing that Bogans/Gee can check Durant/Lebron?

Not as well as Kawhi for sure, but having Hill would be an upgrade on a defensive scheme on a smaller guard and remember that we'd still have stephen jackson because he ultimately left because he didnt get any minutes and was frustrated

so its more of bogans/gee/hill + stak5

[Chinook]

Should I mute, mute?

Nah. I like mute. One of the laziest trolls ever, but people keep falling for it. I'd only pink him if he makes threads too frequently. And I sure wouldn't ban him.

[Aztecfan03]

Not as well as Kawhi for sure, but having Hill would be an upgrade on a defensive scheme on a smaller guard and remember that we'd still have stephen jackson because he ultimately left because he didnt get any minutes and was frustrated

so its more of bogans/gee/hill + stak5

Stop, stop, stop, stop, STOP. You are just making it worse.

[Aztecfan03]

Nah. I like mute. One of the laziest trolls ever, but people keep falling for it. I'd only pink him if he makes threads too frequently. And I sure wouldn't ban him.

I hope he is a troll. Because I dont want to believe someone can be that stupid.

[cd021]

YEAH because the Spurs have a track record of being cheap going for the aron baynes and trying to sign d-leaguers like malchom thomas and desean butler.

if the spurs were actual spenders, id make threads for josh smith, kevin love, roy hibbert, and andre drummond

Threads aren't necessary. Sure, we sign cheap plays on flyers to potentially fill roles and it has worked out. Threads about signing players who haven't played in years because they were good in 2005 doesn't make any sense.


We are a small market squad. Draft picks and cheap signing of players who fill specific roles keep us from over paying to compete for a title. Leonard, Green, Neal, Mills, Baynes, Bonner, De Colo, Joseph were all making below $4 million dollars last season. This season Parker Duncan and Manu are making a $29 million, Kobe is make $30 million. S.T.A.T and Melo are both making more than $21 million dollars this season. There is a good reason while we aren't big spenders.

This season we have the best record in the west, on pace for a franchise record, and are 1 game back from the best record in the NBA. The Knicks, Bulls and Nets are all (or were, in the Bulls case) paying the luxury tax just to compete against Miami and Indiana.

[mute]

Threads aren't necessary. Sure, we sign cheap plays on flyers to potentially fill roles and it has worked out. Threads about signing players who haven't played in years because they were good in 2005 doesn't make any sense.


We are a small market squad. Draft picks and cheap signing of players who fill specific roles keep us from over paying to compete for a title. Leonard, Green, Neal, Mills, Baynes, Bonner, De Colo, Joseph were all making below $4 million dollars last season. This season Parker Duncan and Manu are making a $29 million, Kobe is make $30 million. S.T.A.T and Melo are both making more than $21 million dollars this season. There is a good reason while we aren't big spenders.

This season we have the best record in the west, on pace for a franchise record, and are 1 game back from the best record in the NBA. The Knicks, Bulls and Nets are all (or were, in the Bulls case) paying the luxury tax just to compete against Miami and Indiana.

same thing with going after overseas player right? someones overlooked or someone who people "taught" were done but isn't really or someone whos had a bad luck with injuries but is fresh and ready now who can fly under the rader who we can sign for the vet min

[Darius McCrary]

He showed his dong. That cannot slide in this franchise.

[toki9]

Not as well as Kawhi for sure, but having Hill would be an upgrade on a defensive scheme on a smaller guard and remember that we'd still have stephen jackson because he ultimately left because he didnt get any minutes and was frustrated

so its more of bogans/gee/hill + stak5

1. Jackson was acquired in a trade for Richard Jefferson--who became truly expendable because the Spurs drafted Kawhi; so you can't assume that the Spurs would still have Stephen Jackson.
2. Even if you could assume that the Spurs would still have Jackson, he didn't leave of his own free will...he was waived; Jackson complained about wanting an extension, and it sounded like he was bitter that Manu and Green were ahead of him in the depth chart.
3. Alonzo Gee was waived in Nov of 2010 and Keith Bogans signed with the Bulls in the summer of 2010...so their departure didn't have anything to do with drafting Kawhi...

[toki9]

Nah. I like mute. One of the laziest trolls ever, but people keep falling for it. I'd only pink him if he makes threads too frequently. And I sure wouldn't ban him.

One of the things i really enjoy about these boards is the give and take between posters that leads to better understanding of the game/team/league...I've certainly had my share of misinformed posts and learned a lot from the corrections offered by the board members...having said that, i really don't understand this whole "trolling" bit...i don't understand why people would do that...how is it entertaining to bait people and waste goodwill? But then that leads to my problem of assuming most of these posts are sincere and thus falling for "trolls"...sorry, that became way off-topic...it's just that it's hard to tell what the right response should be to these kind of posts/takes...

[Sean Cagney]

Not as well as Kawhi for sure, but having Hill would be an upgrade on a defensive scheme on a smaller guard and remember that we'd still have stephen jackson because he ultimately left because he didnt get any minutes and was frustrated

so its more of bogans/gee/hill + stak5

OH LORD :lol Hill is not near Parker on O for one and not near the PG he is (He was in MVP votings last year), Hill dissapeared against the heat bigtime, Bogans sucks on O bigtime, he was horrible here in SA pretty much. Gee just NO! Jack 5 he is done and not on a team now if I am correct? I will take Leonard and Parker over that crap anyday you just put above and smile. You can't be serious sir.

[cd021]

OH LORD :lol Hill is not near Parker on O for one and not near the PG he is (He was in MVP votings last year), Hill dissapeared against the heat bigtime, Bogans sucks on O bigtime, he was horrible here in SA pretty much. Gee just NO! Jack 5 he is done and not on a team now if I am correct? I will take Leonard and Parker over that crap anyday you just put above and smile. You can't be serious sir.

This sounds like a walk off shot. Right on all points. Watching Hill play point guard against the Heat was downright painful at times. He basically held the ball until someone magically became wide open.

[capek]

The good thing about mute and such is they're easy to tune out because it's so stupid. The bad thing is that you end up tuning out 90% of this forum, because the crap posters have fucking proliferated and a decent post has become a rare bird here. Meh, ST is like SAS, it's the regular season so who cares.

[SpursRock20]

Mute said that he won't post for a month if the Spurs beat the Blazers next Friday.

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[NickiRasgo]

We traded him 'coz Spurs will sign Wagner and Lafrentz.

[Juggity]

mute is an incredible troll. Top notch work.

[jimbo]

mute is the best troll in Spurstalk since KBP, imo. :lol

He was on another level. Tbh it must have killed him to hear Parker call Tiago the euroleague MVP.

[ChumpDumper]

He certainly has nba dong on his mind.

[Splits]

Well, at least he referenced the correct Pacer George this go 'round

[Waps1980]

wtf the centrepiece are you for real you must be pulling at something cos this can't be serious.

[Skull-1]

I think the incident you're talking about happened in Feb of 2010...Kawhi was drafted in June of 2011...


What incident?

[Dverde]

They moved him because Tony Parker resigned at a good price. He was bound to get a bigger payday when his free agency was up the following year. I agreed with moving him and time has shown it was the right deal. Leonard has been much more effective for us (minus a FT in game 6) in the playoffs then Hill ever was.

[Biernutz]

Mute has to be a laker or dallas clone poster.........They are the ones who start crap like that

[MVPCues]

WTF is the OP talking about? Can someone pm me, because google is no help.

And yes...muting mute sounds like a good idea. At least take away his thread starting privilege.

[Skull-1]

WTF is the OP talking about? Can someone pm me, because google is no help.

And yes...muting mute sounds like a good idea. At least take away his thread starting privilege.

PM me after they PM you.

[tlongII]

Hill sucks. He's the weak link on the Pacers team.

[TVI]

WTF is the OP talking about? Can someone pm me, because google is no help.
Seriously? GH posted a nude picture of himself back in 2009.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/09/george-hill-naked-picture_n_454884.html

Don't worry...the link is just a story about the legal battle the spurs had with the website who had the pic available.

[BacktoBasics]

This thread was a worthy win for mute

mute 1

you idiots 0

This was a 1000 times more entertaining than all those threads where you guys idiotically add "TBH" to every fucking sentence structure.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Mute strikes again

[Mikeanaro]

This thread was a worthy win for mute

mute 1

you idiots 0

This was a 1000 times more entertaining than all those threads where you guys idiotically add "TBH" to every fucking sentence structure.
If you like this kind of shitty threads then you are the idiot, pure speculation but no substance point or straight fact at all. Fuck spaghetti incidents.

[dallasmaverickslose]

If you like this kind of shitty threads then you are the idiot, pure speculation but no substance point or straight fact at all. Fuck spaghetti incidents.

[BacktoBasics]

If you like this kind of shitty threads then you are the idiot, pure speculation but no substance point or straight fact at all. Fuck spaghetti incidents.Not at all surprised by your inability to read without speculating...right as you completely miss the point of the OP and call his post "speculation". The only idiot is you. His speculation is clearly parody and designed to poke at cowards behind a screen like yourself waiting to hurl insults.

No where in my post did I say I liked this thread. I said it was an easy win and more entertaining than the countless and even more idiotic posts, where people like you add "TBH" to every fucking sentence. They all qualify as shit in my book however this was just a bit better dump than many others.

So before mouthing off like a moron maybe you should actually read what is posted before assuming you know what someone thinks.

Until you can tell the difference between the OP's post = Antagonistic Infantile Humor

And my post = Face value

You should consider holding back the insults and assumptions.

[Mikeanaro]

Not at all surprised by your inability to read without speculating...right as you completely miss the point of the OP and call his post "speculation". The only idiot is you. His speculation is clearly parody and designed to poke at cowards behind a screen like yourself waiting to hurl insults.

No where in my post did I say I liked this thread. I said it was an easy win and more entertaining than the countless and even more idiotic posts, where people like you add "TBH" to every fucking sentence. They all qualify as shit in my book however this was just a bit better dump than many others.

So before mouthing off like a moron maybe you should actually read what is posted before assuming you know what someone thinks.

Until you can tell the difference between the OP's post = Antagonistic Infantile Humor

And my post = Face value

You should consider holding back the insults and assumptions.
Go watch TMZ http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/08/chris-boshs-wife-adrienne-bikini-booty-photo/
http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/08/chris-bosh-wife-adrienne-bikini-butt-shot-tmz-tv/
They have the kind of basketball stuff you love, no substance... but really funny

[BacktoBasics]

Go watch TMZ http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/08/chris-boshs-wife-adrienne-bikini-booty-photo/
http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/08/chris-bosh-wife-adrienne-bikini-butt-shot-tmz-tv/
They have the kind of basketball stuff you love, no substance... but really funnySo instead of recognizing your mistake and pulling your foot from your mouth you dig deeper. Are you really this incapable of reading and comprehending?

[I. Hustle]

So instead of recognizing your mistake and pulling your foot from your mouth you dig deeper. Are you really this incapable of reading and comprehending?

HO
Lee
Shitballs

What is up?

[Mikeanaro]

So instead of recognizing your mistake and pulling your foot from your mouth you dig deeper. Are you really this incapable of reading and comprehending?
No man, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

This thread was a worthy win for mute

mute 1

you idiots 0

This was a 1000 times more entertaining than all those threads where you guys idiotically add "TBH" to every fucking sentence structure.

No rocket science here... you are an idiot, since you joined his ¨Troll Thread¨ you are an asshole but you still don´t know where your hole is TBH TBH TBH!

[Bruno]

This thread has run its course. If you want to keep insulting each other, do it through PMs.