View Full Version : Should Corey Joseph go down to the D-League?
Embedded
01-12-2014, 09:33 PM
How has he regressed like that? I know it would be a severe blow to his confidence, but so is going out there and sucking every night. I like the guy a lot, I am flabbergasted that he has regressed - maybe the Spurs didn't have enough resources to work with him the entire summer. He dribbles the ball hunched over like he got shot in the testicles while tying his shoe. I've seen dogs mating that weren't even hunched over that far. WTF?!?!?!
HarlemHeat37
01-12-2014, 09:37 PM
He was never good, tbh:lol..
He made some open jump shots during the playoffs last year against weak competition, and timvp overhyped him last year to the ST masses..
He just doesn't have the tools to be a good NBA player, tbh..
playblair
01-12-2014, 09:38 PM
^ cojo>>>>>>>>>>>mills............. mills in the playoffs:lol
:lol
But yeah they might as well call up Kabongo from the D league at this point.
jeebus
01-12-2014, 09:40 PM
He was never good, tbh:lol..
He made some open jump shots during the playoffs last year against weak competition, and timvp overhyped him last year to the ST masses..
He just doesn't have the tools to be a good NBA player, tbh..
this is the truth. cuckvp could come back tonight and say that Nando is the future of the Spurs and half the people here would jump on that bandwagon.
He didn't regress, he always sucked
RD2191
01-12-2014, 09:42 PM
When has CoJo ever gotten consistent playing time? tbh. Ayres looked like garbage early in the season but now with consistent playing time he has improved. CoJo just needs to get consistent minutes. Of course he's going to look horrible when he's just thrown out there randomly.
Boomersgold
01-12-2014, 09:44 PM
When has CoJo ever gotten consistent playing time? tbh. Ayres looked like garbage early in the season but now with consistent playing time he has improved. CoJo just needs to get consistent minutes. Of course he's going to look horrible when he's just thrown out there randomly.
The second half of last season
RD2191
01-12-2014, 09:46 PM
The second half of last season
Didn't he look good during that time? I don't remember, tbh
HarlemHeat37
01-12-2014, 09:47 PM
He's a PG that can't dribble:lol..
If you're a PG that can't dribble, the only chance you have to be successful in this league is if you're an elite spot-up shooter or have a massive body(like Andre Miller, for example, and he's an anomaly)..
Joseph doesn't fit either category..
playblair
01-12-2014, 10:05 PM
^cojos defense & ability to run the offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>mills chucking & non defense .................................
ThaBigFundamental21
01-12-2014, 10:09 PM
How has he regressed like that? I know it would be a severe blow to his confidence, but so is going out there and sucking every night. I like the guy a lot, I am flabbergasted that he has regressed - maybe the Spurs didn't have enough resources to work with him the entire summer. He dribbles the ball hunched over like he got shot in the testicles while tying his shoe. I've seen dogs mating that weren't even hunched over that far. WTF?!?!?!
He never regressed, you dipshit. He was always a project.
ThaBigFundamental21
01-12-2014, 10:10 PM
He's a PG that can't dribble:lol..
If you're a PG that can't dribble, the only chance you have to be successful in this league is if you're an elite spot-up shooter or have a massive body(like Andre Miller, for example, and he's an anomaly)..
Joseph doesn't fit either category..
Miller can dribble well enough tbh.
Chinook
01-12-2014, 10:32 PM
I like what Cory's doing well enough. He still needs time to season, but I think he's going to be called on as a seconardy defender until Green comes back. I think he's almost there offensively. I think his drives are impressive, even if they're out of control. He's making better passes, and his spot-up shooting is good enough for his position. I like his intangibles, and they'll get even better as he matures.
I think it's possible that he's still a big part of the Spurs' plans for the future. They certainly don't seem to be developing him as a role player. I don't know if they give him any direction other than to just go out there and play.
PÒÓCH
01-12-2014, 10:59 PM
He can go to the F league.
tholdren
01-12-2014, 11:03 PM
Didn't he look good during that time? I don't remember, tbh
Yes, he looked really good. I hated the draft choice, he blew at texas, but last year I was really starting to think the Hill trade was even better because Joseph was doing a great job with his minutes. I had no idea what happened from the end of last year to this year; he was getting no time.
CitizenDwayne
01-12-2014, 11:13 PM
this is the truth. cuckvp could come back tonight and say that Nando is the future of the Spurs and half the people here would jump on that bandwagon.
Was it timvp that started the Cojo bandwagon? I really don't remember
jeebus
01-12-2014, 11:18 PM
Was it timvp that started the Cojo bandwagon? I really don't remember
not quite sure but he definitely took over the reigns. I know he didn't like Mills and that kinda transferred over to this season as well iirc.
DPG21920
01-12-2014, 11:21 PM
It's mental with CJ. He's not a starter and can't be relied upon in the playoffs, but if he were consistently aggressive, he would be a fine regular season back up. But it's up in the air IMO since you can't teach aggressiveness. He just doesn't have it in him when he's a part of the rotation.
He is very shy and has shaky skills outside of defending. If he were just aggressive and hyper, he would be fine, but he's not so he isn't (speaking offensively).
AFBlue
01-12-2014, 11:33 PM
He's clearly regressed from last year, and it has everything to do with losing the backup PG to Patty. Last season he was full of confidence, knew his role and played it really well. He was a low-mistake offensive player that got his team into the sets and played solid D.
Now, he plays with a complete lack of surety and forces the action when there's nothing there leading to poor execution and turnovers. The defensive effort is still there at least, but outside of that he's lost.
The good news is I think he can break out of the funk. I'm just not sure what motivational button Pop has to push.
AFBlue
01-12-2014, 11:36 PM
And to answer the question of the thread...some time with the Toros may be just what he needs imo tbqh fwiw.
bklynspursfan
01-12-2014, 11:38 PM
He should. Maybe let DeColo get some burn instead, he at least handles the ball fairly well
dbestpro
01-12-2014, 11:49 PM
CoJo looks like he is Europe bound within the next couple years.
cd021
01-13-2014, 12:31 AM
He was never good, tbh:lol..
He made some open jump shots during the playoffs last year against weak competition, and timvp overhyped him last year to the ST masses..
He just doesn't have the tools to be a good NBA player, tbh..
Yes he did. Looking back at his highlights from last post season. He was primarily a product of Manu's passing. Cutting and running the floor well, but he can't create offense for himself. Teams can ignore him on offense and he doesn't make them pay. Mills is the better option, even thought he is the most likely spurs to struggle in the post season.
cd021
01-13-2014, 12:33 AM
He should. Maybe let DeColo get some burn instead, he at least handles the ball fairly well
Also a better shooter, he doesn't hesitate as much shooting the ball. Better passer, but does make some bad turnovers. He's also bigger (6'5). It would be interesting to see how a De Colo-Ginobili-Belinelli- Diaw-Ayers lineup would do.
jermaine
01-13-2014, 07:46 AM
He shouldn't even be in the D-league. He pick up his dribble in the lane like a 8yr old. Seriously im tryna teach my son to face the basket an dont stop dribbling until your about to pass or shoot! I'd rather Beno from the Knicks.
Raven
01-13-2014, 07:54 AM
if you don't play him regularly, a young player will look shittier than he is.
wildchild
01-13-2014, 07:59 AM
He's clearly regressed from last year, and it has everything to do with losing the backup PG to Patty. Last season he was full of confidence, knew his role and played it really well[/I]. He was a low-mistake offensive player that got his team into the sets and played solid D.
Now, he plays with a complete lack of surety and forces the action when there's nothing there leading to poor execution and turnovers. The defensive effort is still there at least, but outside of that he's lost.
The good news is I think he can break out of the funk. I'm just not sure what motivational button Pop has to push.
That happens when you are working with young players but not interested in truly developing these players.
Cory is just stuck in the wrong situation, unfortunately.
He's young and still learning the game. He has talent (which is shown by him being able to dominate the DLeague level), but it doesn't seem to translate to the NBA game...yet, anyways.
To his credit, Joseph has always accepted his role and been ready to play. He has also played for the last two years up in Austin and instead of pouting, he's used it as a positive experience (and helped lead the team to a title). If the Spurs weren't already bloated with guards who can handle the ball (Parker, Mills, De Colo, Ginobili, Belinelli), Joseph might be able to carve out a spot on the team and be a project worth working on.
I don't think the DLeague can do much more for him at this point. The sad truth is that there are just too many people in line in front of him, and he doesn't have what it takes to separate himself. Unfortunately, CoJo's basketball future is most likely with another team, if not another league.
TheGoldStandard
01-13-2014, 11:27 AM
He has a wide open drive on the baseline and he tries to go glass on a 90 degree angle. That's just dumb and no amount of game time will help.
superbigtime
01-13-2014, 02:26 PM
He sucks. So does nando. They are waste of $ and roster spots. An insurance policy perhaps, but a lousy one. I'd rather have DJ Augustin. And that dude stinks.
ChumpDumper
01-13-2014, 05:42 PM
The answer is currently no.
AFBlue
01-13-2014, 07:11 PM
That happens when you are working with young players but not interested in truly developing these players.
Joseph spent nearly two full seasons in Austin with the DEVELOPMENT league tbqh. He played well toward the end of last season and got key minutes in the playoffs, showing plenty of growth from when he was drafted.
COJO > Mills for real... you think Mills is gonna be able to play run and gun style in the playoffs, shooting threes on fast break? No, we need someone with decent size and Cojo > Mills on defense who can slow the game down and set up others.
Biernutz
01-16-2014, 04:43 PM
This story on CoJo is a little tough. I s it fair? He has seemed to hit a level off but it's hard
to judge him on his time in the games.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/1/16/5308752/cory-joseph-spurs-canada-
playblair
01-17-2014, 10:51 PM
patty mills playoff performance preview......................... cojo haters pattys performance proves cojo = back up pg...............................
TheGreatYacht
01-26-2014, 03:07 PM
Him and De Culo are HORRIBLE
Cory "No J" Oseph - 20min, 2pts 1-5
Nando De Culo - 10min, 1 point
Embedded
01-29-2014, 08:50 AM
Okay I was wrong. DEAD WRONG. All he needed was real playing time. He made some great moves last night, his confidence is up. He's also hit so e quality shots, and an impressive 1 on 2 finish at the rim.
cd021
01-29-2014, 09:46 AM
He is improving and seems to be a bit more confident, but he hesitates way to much on open 3's. We can't have a guard that can't shoot. He is active defensively and can board a bit but Mills is a 3pt machine and has a quick release. I'd give playoff minutes to Patty until he can't be productive.
waisman
01-29-2014, 10:57 AM
He forced to do play SG .
He is PG .
It is no fair .
blkroadrunners
01-29-2014, 11:54 AM
He is improving and seems to be a bit more confident, but he hesitates way to much on open 3's. We can't have a guard that can't shoot. He is active defensively and can board a bit but Mills is a 3pt machine and has a quick release. I'd give playoff minutes to Patty until he can't be productive.
He has the tools and assets to be a really solid combo guard, and his shot release and mechanics aren't broken. It's just a matter of time until he breaks out. However it's all mental with him, and the last few games haven't been much of a scope due to all the injuries at the wing position. When players are healthy, he's shown a lot of complacency compared to now. If only he had Patty's mentality..
dbestpro
01-29-2014, 12:54 PM
Trade him while you can still get a third round pick for him.
TheGoldStandard
01-29-2014, 01:23 PM
Spurs will keep him around.
Chinook
01-29-2014, 02:34 PM
Cory is doing a good job. I don't understand SpursTalk sometimes.
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