True Detective

[DeadlyDynasty]

I apologize if there's a thread on this show already, just link me to it.

Just saw the Pilot...looks like it has great potential:tu

[CuckingFunt]

I've been looking forward to this. I've often thought both McConaughey and Harrelson are far better actors than they've typically been given credit for, and I particularly like them together (yes, I'm the one person who liked and remembers EdTV.)

[Medvedenko]

Show is straight gold. Matt's character he's playing is something I haven't seen on TV.

[JudynTX]

It's slow.............................................. .

[leemajors]

Gonna watch it tonight

[Oh, Gee!!]

It's slow.............................................. .

you should stick to Real Housewives or the Kardashians. this show has actual dialogue

[TE]

you should stick to Real Housewives or the Kardashians. this show has actual dialogue
:loltbh

OTR, I'll catch this shit when I'm done with the Sopranos. Need 8 more episodes :cry

[CosmicCowboy]

you should stick to Real Housewives or the Kardashians. this show has actual dialogue

:wow

Damn.

That was harsh.

[mrsmaalox]

I'd been looking forward to this series and I enjoyed the premiere. Gonna stick with it.

[Holden_Caulfield]

man that pilot was great

[JudynTX]

you should stick to Real Housewives or the Kardashians. this show has actual dialogue

Fuck you. I don't watch those shitty shows.

[bigzak25]

:lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

Fuck you. I don't watch those shitty shows.

good

[timtonymanu]

I'm definitely gonna take a look at this.

[GoodOdor]

you should stick to Real Housewives or the Kardashians. this show has actual dialogue

Cold blooded.

[Spur-Addict]

Hilarious 1st episode. These flawed lead characters are becoming more prevalent. Although there is a different twist here. The story doesn't seem necessarily unique, although character interaction is off beat imo. It will depend on the acting for longevity, as with any series. I'll certainly watch the next episode solely for the dialogue between the two, but it'll take more than that for me to stick around.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Looks like McConaughey never recovered from that weight loss he had in Dallas Buyers Club. In True Detective and a few other appearances he has had recently, the dude has really aged.

So far the show seems intriguing.

[leemajors]

Hilarious 1st episode. These flawed lead characters are becoming more prevalent. Although there is a different twist here. The story doesn't seem necessarily unique, although character interaction is off beat imo. It will depend on the acting for longevity, as with any series. I'll certainly watch the next episode solely for the dialogue between the two, but it'll take more than that for me to stick around.

They will follow different detectives in each season.

[Spur-Addict]

They will follow different detectives in each season.

Oh, that's certainly a different spin for sure. That changes things, as I had the impression (as you've probably gathered) that I assumed they'd be together. Interesting.

[Oh, Gee!!]

They will follow different detectives in each season.

I think the season is only 8 eps.

[leemajors]

I thought it was pretty good.

[Joyrider]

Another fantastic episode. I have no idea where this season is going and I love it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Haven't seen the 2nd one yet, but this show is at the top of the TV priority list after the pilot..anybody else notice Brother Mouzone as one of the detectives investigating the true detectives?:lol

[monosylab1k]

Fuck you. I don't watch those shitty shows.

Don't you watch all that TNT/USA crap like The Closer and Psych? Thats not any better tbh.

[mrsmaalox]

Great second episode. I'm loving the intensity; I don't think I even blinked I was so caught up.

[Joyrider]

Haven't seen the 2nd one yet, but this show is at the top of the TV priority list after the pilot..anybody else notice Brother Mouzone as one of the detectives investigating the true detectives?:lol

And don't forget the preacher played by Lester Freemon. :hat

[CuckingFunt]

And don't forget the preacher played by Lester Freemon. :hat

Which also connects to the medical examiner being played by Robinette from Treme.

[ChumpDumper]

Liked the first episode although it felt they were stretching to fill the time a bit. Will keep watching. Matthew McConaughey looks like Harry Dean Stanton's kid now.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Just saw the 2nd ep...I love the methodical pace to it, but man this show is a mindfuck that stays in your head afterwards. The dolls scene is kinda fucked up and there's a lot of other random shit too (McConaughey checking his pulse, etc)...very dark, but not as hopeless as the Red Riding series felt. It's roped me in though for sure.

I sure as shit don't miss Louisiana though, and this show confirms it:lol

[CuckingFunt]

Finally got around to watching the second episode this morning. I love the pace of this show, so far, and love that people seem to be more and more willing to bring that pace to television.

Also, I'm surprised to be the first one mentioning Alexandra's double-Daddarios. Goodness.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Au naturale, too

[leemajors]

excellent once again :tu

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Great show, Already the best show on TV. Matthew Mcconaughey is doing his finest work yet :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

Liking it so far.

[Darth_Pelican]

I just watched the latest episode, and I thought it was the best one so far. The final scene was done perfectly with Matthew Mcconaughey's monster speech, the music, and then how the camera just freezes when they show the suspect to end it.

[ChumpDumper]

Finally getting used to harrelson's mushmouth or he's toning it down a bit. The contradictions in both detectives are great. Was caring less about the procdure until the end of the episode of course.

I hope eli sideburns doesn't end up the killer.

[DMC]

Finally getting used to harrelson's mushmouth or he's toning it down a bit. The contradictions in both detectives are great. Was caring less about the procdure until the end of the episode of course.

I hope eli sideburns doesn't end up the killer.

Nucky won't be happy.

[DMC]

I just watched the latest episode, and I thought it was the best one so far. The final scene was done perfectly with Matthew Mcconaughey's monster speech, the music, and then how the camera just freezes when they show the suspect to end it.
Matt is good, Woody's role should be done by someone else. I can't watch him and take him seriously.

[to21]

Awesome show! Woody's gf does have an nice rack!

[DesignatedT]

First three episodes have been fantastic so far. Should be getting good next week. McConaughey has been great.

[redzero]

This is a great show. I just wish Michael Jackson wasn't in it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Marty's kids got some 'splainin to do.

[Proxy]

Amazing show... enjoying it more than any other series I've seen 3 episodes in. Can we assume the drawing of the spaghetti/green eared person was the guy mowing the school lawn?

[JudynTX]

Amazing show... enjoying it more than any other series I've seen 3 episodes in. Can we assume the drawing of the spaghetti/green eared person was the guy mowing the school lawn?

Finally caught up and he was creepy as fuck. Reminded me of Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

[Proxy]

Finally caught up and he was creepy as fuck. Reminded me of Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

Yeah there was something up with him. Seem like he had some facial scars. Figured Rust would've picked up on it had he been given more time.

[DMC]

Marty's kids got some 'splainin to do.

No kidding lol... Avante watched that like 8 times.

[DMC]

Yeah there was something up with him. Seem like he had some facial scars. Figured Rust would've picked up on it had he been given more time.

Pretty sure I killed him several times on Borderlands.

[NASpurs]

Also, I'm surprised to be the first one mentioning Alexandra's double-Daddarios. Goodness.

When I heard that Alexandra Daddario was on this show and that the show was on HBO, I had my fingers crossed that she was going to come out topless. My wish came true. :cry Knowing this, I'm going to give this show a shot. I have the first three eps on DVR, just needed a push to watch it.

[sook]

When I heard that Alexandra Daddario was on this show and that the show was on HBO, I had my fingers crossed that she was going to come out topless. My wish came true. :cry Knowing this, I'm going to give this show a shot. I have the first three eps on DVR, just needed a push to watch it.

Dude that was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.

speaking of, This blew my fucking mind. When I saw the suspect's picture I was like who the fuck looks like that?

Dude is going to be in a couple more episodes too...

http://i.imgur.com/Ee1Ea43.jpg


I think Hart is the killer though.


My wild speculation is I think it's one of Detective Hart's daughters that is a copy cat killer or knows the copy cat killer somehow. I think as the show progresses, it'll show that Hart's relationship was strained around the time of this case that later became a divorce and split up the family. It might cause some resentment from one his daughters or warp their viewpoint on relationships. His inquisitive daughter that likes to re-enact imaginary rape scenes with toy dolls and keeps getting caught drawing sexual organs at school stumbles upon Hart's casework one night while he's away and sees pictures of the ritual murder scene. It burns a memory in Hart's daughter's mind, who has already shown an early interest in sex and more importantly keeping secrets. I think Hart's daughter will get caught in the prostitution ring as this new murder is 10 years later and that would put Hart's daughter in her late teens to early twenties. Seems to be around that age when girls on this show start becoming prostitutes. Given Hart's viewpoint on monogamous relationships, I think it's safe to say at least one of his daughter is gonna have daddy issues and be the village bicycle for older men. Why not the daughter that's also shown she's a bit perverse and acts out gangbangs with ken dolls and a single barbie doll? Also I think it would help explain why Hart and Cohle are being interviewed about their personal lives and thoughts while uncovering the case.

[Rogue]

you changed avatar, sook, no love for our German Allah anymore? :cry

[sook]

you changed avatar, sook, no love for our German Allah anymore? :cry

Its in support of Chandler Parsons. Nigga better get paid this year, I don't think I could stand the thought of another star just walking like Dragic.

[DeadlyDynasty]

With that shitty SB came the awful realization that there was no True Detective to turn to tonight. Fuck.

[mrsmaalox]

I was sooo ready for a new episode tonight. I was making up plots in my mind all day :lol

[CuckingFunt]

With that shitty SB came the awful realization that there was no True Detective to turn to tonight. Fuck.

Yeah. Don't know why they couldn't air it last night like they did Girls.

Then again, considering how limited the run and that this cast only lasts one season, maybe I should be happy with anything that makes it last longer.

[AaronY]

Yeah, this show is pretty gd awesome. Mcconaughey is lookin bizarre like a Harry Dean Stanton Jr. nowadays though and once you see it you can't unsee it. Resemblance is truly jarring, lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

One more day

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpuxx5avRX1ql9vilo1_500.gif

[Joyrider]

http://images.contactmusic.com/images/reviews/edtv.jpg

These guys are ready.

[Rogue]

hunky guys who masturbate are flat out pathetic tbh, bitches would like to melt down on their muscular bodies even without charging any fee. Dudes like him could've got a bitch from the street or neighbor's house for a night anytime he likes, tbh, toll-free!

[DeadlyDynasty]

!

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah, this is ridiculous

[DeadlyDynasty]

"I'm sick of talking to you like a man.":lol

[DPG21920]

What an episode

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I came

[DPG21920]

Show made me nervous tbh...LA is like the Wild West.

[DeadlyDynasty]

"You are the Michael Jordan of being a son of a bitch" might be the best line I've heard on TV in years.

[DesignatedT]

Awesome ep.

[mrsmaalox]

Really brought the suspense.

[Darth_Pelican]

Just finished The Walking Dead and then True Detective. TD wins hands down.

"You can't spot crazy pussy?" :lol

[Medvedenko]

Unbelievable episode, tense, tense, tense....

[Amuseddaysleeper]

That was about as good as any episode of Breaking Bad you'll ever see, and I love Breaking Bad.

They had a 6 minute tracking shot, are you fucking kidding me? Amazing

[CuckingFunt]

I can't think of any other show I've found this impressive this quickly.

[xmas1997]

I can't think of any other show I've found this impressive this quickly.

But what channel is it on?
I've been trying to find it on the basic cable channels, it must be on a premium channel like HBO or Showtime.

[CuckingFunt]

But what channel is it on?
I've been trying to find it on the basic cable channels, it must be on a premium channel like HBO or Showtime.

http://bit.ly/LPYfSG

[hehateme]

http://bit.ly/LPYfSG

I wish life was that easy.

[redzero]

I was getting Dead Freight flashbacks at the end of the last episode. That was fucking magnificent. And Grinderman was just the icing on the cake. Goddamn.

[Taco]

It's slow.............................................. .

:lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

The fact we have only 3 hours left of Rust Cohle makes me sad (no homo)

[CuckingFunt]

The fact we have only 3 hours left of Rust Cohle makes me sad (no homo)

Four, right?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yeah, my bad (i know you love that phrase). Still too short

[CuckingFunt]

("My bad" is perfectly acceptable and appropriate when meant to acknowledge one's mistake. I only hate when people think it subs for an actual apology.)

[Proxy]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dat-ass-meme.jpg
dat final 6-min shot

[DMC]

hunky guys who masturbate are flat out pathetic tbh, bitches would like to melt down on their muscular bodies even without charging any fee. Dudes like him could've got a bitch from the street or neighbor's house for a night anytime he likes, tbh, toll-free!

tbh but isn't better than putting a part of your body into that dank, swollen Chinese finger puzzle of a gash? Especially for a celibate.

[DMC]

It's a good show. Anyone could play Woody's part probably better than Woody himself, but Matt is on top of it.
I have a hard time taking Woody seriously. Only person I could see taking Matt's role is maybe Pitt.

[DPG21920]

I think Woody is great. He seems to be very underrated IMO.

[redzero]

Welp, no new episode of Rick and Morty this week. Guess I'll watch the new Rust and Marty over again... again.

[mrsmaalox]

It's a good show. Anyone could play Woody's part probably better than Woody himself, but Matt is on top of it.
I have a hard time taking Woody seriously. Only person I could see taking Matt's role is maybe Pitt.

I love them both. McConaughey has the Midas touch right now and it's damn good. I've just always had a soft spot for Harrelson; and I think it's mostly from the Charles Harrelson--Judge John Wood--El Paso's mafia family the Chagras, it all makes Woody even more peculiar/interesting to me. And although I never saw him in his tv show and I've only seen a couple of his movies, I've never seen him in anything I didn't like :lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

"I will skull fuck you, you bitch!"

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Matt McConaughey is giving a performance of a life time. Rust Cohle might be my favorite TV character of all time, tbh.

[thunderup]

Matt is a boss on this show. Woody has given an underrated performance thus far.

Best show since Breaking Bad.

[leemajors]

As others have mentioned, this ep had a great variety/mix of songs. I was shocked to hear American Life in the biker bar.

[DMC]

I love them both. McConaughey has the Midas touch right now and it's damn good. I've just always had a soft spot for Harrelson; and I think it's mostly from the Charles Harrelson--Judge John Wood--El Paso's mafia family the Chagras, it all makes Woody even more peculiar/interesting to me. And although I never saw him in his tv show and I've only seen a couple of his movies, I've never seen him in anything I didn't like :lol

Don't get me wrong, I like Mr Harrelson, I just don't find him particularly convincing in this role. He seems like he's always on the verge of cracking up. Maybe that's the part he's supposed to be playing, but if so it was written for Woody himself as I don't see him having much range. Maybe it's the wig.

[Darth_Pelican]

‘True Detective’ Season 2: HBO Drama Likely Renewed for 2015

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/screencrush.com/files/2014/01/130908-ep03-martin-rust-1024.jpgHBO

Long before HBO’s dark and dreary ‘True Detective (http://screencrush.com/tags/true-detective)‘ became a critical rave after only three episodes, showrunner Nic Pizzolatto explained that a second season would likely follow the anthology approach with a new cast and original story. And while HBO has yet to formally renew the Woody Harrelson (http://screencrush.com/tags/woody-harrelson)-Matthew McConaughey (http://screencrush.com/tags/matthew-mcconaughey) for a second season, what of HBO’s latest dealings all-but-confirms ‘True Detective’ will open a second case in 2015 for season 2?
Via Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2014/01/true-detective-creator-nic-pizzolatto-signs-new-overall-deal-with-hbo-paving-way-for-season-2-of-breakout-drama/), the pay-cable giant has signed an overall two-year deal with creator and novelist Nic Pizzolatto, who has already begun working on a potential second season of ‘True Detective,’ prepping a draft to present to HBO execs. The official order seems especially likely, given HBO’s most-watched series debut in over three year, averaging around 7.7 million viewers across the different platforms.
For those unaware, HBO’s Cary Fukunaga (http://screencrush.com/tags/cary-fukunaga)-directed ‘True Detective’ follows investigators Rustin Cohle (McConaughey) and Martin Hart (Harrelson), whose lives intertwine during a 17-year hunt for a Louisiana serial killer. Their investigation of a gruesome 1995 murder cuts through testimony from the detectives in 2012, after the case re-opens. The eight-episode series also stars Shea Whigham (‘Boardwalk Empire (http://screencrush.com/tags/boardwalk-empire/)‘), Kevin Dunn (‘Veep (http://screencrush.com/tags/veep)‘), Michelle Monaghan (‘Open (http://screencrush.com/tags/open)‘), Alexandra Daddario (‘Percy Jackson (http://screencrush.com/tags/percy-jackson-sea-of-monsters/)‘) and Elizabeth Reaser (‘Twilight (http://screencrush.com/tags/Twilight/)‘).
As for the potential storyline of second season, common belief tells us that the cast would likely undergo a great deal more turnover than ‘American Horror Story (http://screencrush.com/tags/american-horror-story),’ while the central story could prove equally different, given the flexibility of the series title. As noted by Deadline, Pizzolatto put forth several ideas during the recent TCA press tour:

There could be a season that’s much more of a widespread conspiracy thriller, a season that’s a small‑town murder mystery, a season where nobody is murdered and it’s a master criminal versus a rogue detective or something. Even the title, True Detective, is meant to be, of course, purposefully somewhat generic – the word “true” can also mean honorable and authentic and things like that. So as long as there is some crime in there, I think the series format can approach it.

We’ll keep our ears to the ground for news of a formal renewal, something made all the more likely by HBO’s numerous cancellations of 2014 (http://screencrush.com/hbo-family-tree-hello-ladies-canceled/), but what do you think? Could a second season of ‘True Detective’ garner similar acclaim without the stars and stories that made its first season so gripping? What would you want to see from a potential second season?

[Spur-Addict]

The simplicity of Woody's character balances out the complexity of McConaughey's. Some resemblance of normalcy, and every day issues is needed to maintain the less philosophical viewers imo

[DeadlyDynasty]

What's funny though is Cohle now appears more sane and normal than Hart

[CuckingFunt]

What's funny though is Cohle now appears more sane and normal than Hart

Yeah. That wasn't exactly a shocking or innovative turn, but it's been very nicely handled.

[mrsmaalox]

Don't get me wrong, I like Mr Harrelson, I just don't find him particularly convincing in this role. He seems like he's always on the verge of cracking up. Maybe that's the part he's supposed to be playing, but if so it was written for Woody himself as I don't see him having much range. Maybe it's the wig.

I know! It's the wig. I find myself mesmerized by it, constantly wondering "How'd they do that?" :)

[DMC]

What's funny though is Cohle now appears more sane and normal than Hart

And there's an interesting dichotomy between Cohle's two lives (undercover vs plain clothes detective), it's as if he's more comfortable operating in the criminal circles than in his own office. Personally I think Cohle has some demons regarding his little girl. I feel like maybe he's the reason she's dead and has created a world where that's better than the alternative just so he could cope. That's assuming she actually died that way, and wasn't kidnapped and killed, or something along those lines.

[DeadlyDynasty]

And there's an interesting dichotomy between Cohle's two lives (undercover vs plain clothes detective), it's as if he's more comfortable operating in the criminal circles than in his own office. Personally I think Cohle has some demons regarding his little girl. I feel like maybe he's the reason she's dead and has created a world where that's better than the alternative just so he could cope. That's assuming she actually died that way, and wasn't kidnapped and killed, or something along those lines.
Yeah, Cohle's only semblance of normalcy (off the clock) has been in the presence of Maggie. After the first ep I thought it was a foregone conclusion that they'd end up having an affair, but not so sure now. In the 2nd ep he alludes to having another fiancee that Maggie introduced him to. His lows are deeper than Hart's, but he's altogether more balanced--at least up until this point.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Gonna be weird with a whole new cast next year.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Can't get that Handsome Family song outta my head.

[leemajors]

http://io9.com/the-one-literary-reference-you-must-know-to-appreciate-1523076497

I'll be reading it shortly, just got it on my kindle

[Darth_Pelican]

Another solid episode. The last 10 minutes was packed with info. I had to rewind the ending and watch it again because a couple names are mentioned that we haven't heard since the 2nd episode.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Had to do a flight to Montego Bay (don't ever go there tbh)so i missed it...can't wait to get home

[GoodOdor]

I'm on episode 2, I'm hooked - Rust is badass. Woody's char is pissing me off for some reason though.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It's infamous to Louisianans (sp?) But Angola really is the scariest place on earth. We used to have to take pt's out of there back when i worked for Acadian.

[redzero]

That episode was so goddamn unnerving. I didn't really care about the case at first because I thought the show would be a character study. But now I have no idea what to think.

It's funny that the last forty minutes were more thrilling than the first twenty, even though there was no real action. That music made everything ominous.

[Spur-Addict]

Good episode, but there's no way they allow this to turn into some sort of Dexter knock off. I just don't see it.

[CosmicCowboy]

I can't get past episode 2

For those with basic cable...NSFW!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a126e_alexandra-daddario-in-true-detective-seeing-things-s01e02_redband

[leemajors]

I would highly recommend reading the first four stories of the King in Yellow and rewatching the episodes. A lot more jumps out at you after.

[ohmwrecker]

^ I noticed that too. I don't think it's essential to enjoying the show more than something for horror lit nerds to geek out over.

[leemajors]

^ I noticed that too. I don't think it's essential to enjoying the show more than something for horror lit nerds to geek out over.

Definitely not essential. Here is it on Google Books for free if anyone is interested:

http://books.google.com/books?id=qHgKEqjdy-wC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+king+in+yellow&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yxcBU7zPMITWyQHIi4CQBQ&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=the%20king%20in%20yellow&f=false

[Spurminator]

I hesitate to over-praise anything that's only five episodes in but this show is already setting a new bar for quality TV.

[DMC]

Never was a big MM fan but his performance here is one of the best I've seen.

[DMC]

In all of this hocus pocus bullshit seems to be lost the fact that drugs are being created and distributed. Sure it's been part of the story line, but the attention is drawn to the mysterious as if the drug trade itself is a side note. On the contrary, I'd suspect that the drug trade is the heart of the operation, and that the mysterious circumstances are just a misdirection. The children being locked up doesn't say to me "sacrifice" but "illegal money making operation". Those guys, as much shit as they talk about the supernatural and the mind fuck game, they are in it for profit and you have to wonder how high the profit goes. I'd say follow the money here, not the killings. I'd bet that there are governor's office people involved. I hope not. That's been done to death already.

[redzero]

I hesitate to over-praise anything that's only five episodes in but this show is already setting a new bar for quality TV.

I don't blame you for hyping this. The thing that separates True Detective from every other TV show is that it has one director and one writer. It's like an eight hour long movie. It has no lulls in its story. It's got one direction and one story. Fans of few TV shows can say the same thing.

[Joyrider]

It's been a pain to avoid this thread but fuck, the wait was worth it. Just caught up on the last two episodes and there is seriously, nothing better on television than this. I knew once that smug minister made an appearance and flexed his power, he was gonna have a pivotal role in the killings. I can see a giant cover up and Cole and Hart being forced to shut up in 2002 yet Cole continuing the investigation on his own. The possibilities are endless though. That one track shot, goddamn.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Just keeps getting better and better.... God I hope Rust doesn't turn out to be in on it. Also lol @ woody's daughter...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Just keeps getting better and better.... God I hope Rust doesn't turn out to be in on it. Also lol @ woody's daughter...
Just saw it now too...Rust being in on it would be too convenient and cheap.

That ep 6 preview of the methed-out girl talking to Cohle was interesting

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Just saw it now too...Rust being in on it would be too convenient and cheap.

That ep 6 preview of the methed-out girl talking to Cohle was interesting
Yea it would, I trust the writers though. They've come up with something awesome im sure..

The tweaked out chick could be Heart's daughter imo

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yea it would, I trust the writers though. They've come up with something awesome im sure..

The tweaked out chick could be Heart's daughter imo
No, we saw what his daughters look like and that meth chick was young too and didn't look like them. Interesting how they showed that "crown in the tree" scene with his daughters though, while he was saying "the answer was under my nose." Seriously doubt that was some directorial red herring

[Floyd Pacquiao]

No, we saw what his daughters look like and that meth chick was young too and didn't look like them. Interesting how they showed that "crown in the tree" scene with his daughters though, while he was saying "the answer was under my nose." Seriously doubt that was some directorial red herring

That is interesting, and the director iirc hasn't done much to throw us off so far.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

And if you noticed Reggie Ledoux didnt have that spiral symbol tattoed on him. That is if I saw correctly, which I'm sure I did.

[CuckingFunt]

No, we saw what his daughters look like and that meth chick was young too and didn't look like them. Interesting how they showed that "crown in the tree" scene with his daughters though, while he was saying "the answer was under my nose." Seriously doubt that was some directorial red herring

Theories all over the place are that something bad happened to the older daughter that will end up being related to the yellow king, hence the sex drawings as a little girl and the bratty/goth/getting-double-banged-in-a-car teenager phase.

[CuckingFunt]

And if you noticed Reggie Ledoux didnt have that spiral symbol tattoed on him. That is if I saw correctly, which I'm sure I did.

It was branded on him, as Charlie Lang said in prison. It's subtle but visible just above the big pentagram tattoo on his back.

[ChumpDumper]

Just keeps getting better and better.... God I hope Rust doesn't turn out to be in on it. Also lol @ woody's daughter...Since he's still investigating the murders in 02 after the suicide, that doesn't make much sense to me. I just think he's gone vigilante on those he thinks actually did the killings.
Theories all over the place are that something bad happened to the older daughter that will end up being related to the yellow king, hence the sex drawings as a little girl and the bratty/goth/getting-double-banged-in-a-car teenager phase.Yeah, the subplot and the time spent on it doesn't make much sense otherwise. One crazy theory has Hart's being basically a Leland Palmer Yellow King Bob, but I think Jay O. Sanders is wearing that hairpiece for a reason.

[redzero]

Rust is not a copycat. He's not in on it. Nic Pizzolatto knew that people would think Rust was in on it, and he integrated it into the plot. I don't know how anybody could believe that Rust is a part of the cult after the last episode.
(https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=LOn&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&q=nic+pizzolatto&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgy0HnxCXfq6-QWFRVWVhuRKYbWRmllFpqKWYnWylX1IGRPEFRfnpRYm5VlBaIb koNbEkv2jOsiPPeDLlZBLnPTgxzWj-_Aeu_j0AY2zIz1oAAAA&sa=X&ei=KW8DU-jOC6GSyQHMg4GoDA&ved=0CMABEJsTKAIwEw&biw=1600&bih=776)

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I'm already convinced that Rust has gone full vigilante/undercover the past 10 yrs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7eTYUD0S7E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

"once he starts drinking, anything he says in that room is inadmissible"

Nick Pizzolatto with the goods...

[Floyd Pacquiao]

solid review of ep 5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbF2ym1rZ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[leemajors]

boing boing has great recaps and musings about the show as well. much better quality writing than gawker ffs

[Mugen]

Great ep this last week. Doubt Cohle is in on it. Pretty obvious his current state is part of his "ruse" and still working the case in 2012. Thinking Marty is helping him still and their "falling out" was all for show.

[CuckingFunt]

From a storytelling perspective, the last episode felt like Pizzolatto clearly telling us both that the present day cops suspect Cohle and that they're wrong. To go directly from them finally making their case in both interrogations to scenes of Cohle investigating by himself and on his own time (when he's not being watched and, therefore, doesn't need to be putting on a show) can't have been an accident. I don't think there's supposed to be any ambiguity there.

I'm inclined to agree with the general theories that Cohle's time off the grid has been spent deep undercover and working the case on his own. I also find it plausible that there are higher ups connected and that Cohle wanted to make himself a suspect on purpose, but I'm not married to that idea. The biggest mystery to me is the current status of the relationship between Hart and Cohle. There have been enough seeds planted to support either their falling out or their secretly working the case together.

[Joyrider]

Rumor has it is the reason for Hart and Cohle fall out is due to an altercation where Cohle presents evidence Hart isn't willing to listen to. i.e. Hart father in law being a part of the cult involved in the murders. Cohle becomes threatened and after he can't turn to Hart anymore for support, he abandons the force and investigates on his own.

[Proxy]

So I guess Gilbough and Papania are in cahoots with the higher ups

[ChumpDumper]

Rumor has it is the reason for Hart and Cohle fall out is due to an altercation where Cohle presents evidence Hart isn't willing to listen to. i.e. Hart father in law being a part of the cult involved in the murders. Cohle becomes threatened and after he can't turn to Hart anymore for support, he abandons the force and investigates on his own.Something like that plus maybe Cohle's boning/coming close to boning Hart's wife IMO. No wedding band on Hart's finger in 2012.

I was trying to tie that into the beer can people. I don't remember any of them being prone like in the daughter's diorama. Maybe that's Cohle along with Hart's family?


So I guess Gilbough and Papania are in cahoots with the higher upsJust doing their jobs IMO. Seems pretty clear someone with access is covering up missing children's records and those kids are probably the victims in the 17 year interim. That will be a good reason for Cohle's going deep cover/off the grid, and Hart either spurns him in 02 or is working the longest game in police history.

[leemajors]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19g3obwuae56wgif/original.gif

[ChumpDumper]

I don't want to go too deep in the Yella King thing, but whoever reads the second act of that play goes insane and is lost in despair.

Looks like only one guy read it.

[Joyrider]

Pumped for tonight!!

http://31.media.tumblr.com/ae2a10b709994cc631d5aaca4276ffc4/tumblr_n0xzikLxa21tt10aso1_1280.png

[DesignatedT]

:tu obsessed with this show.

[Joyrider]

I've already marathon'ed the season about 3 times and watched the last 2 episodes about 5 times each. The easter eggs and foreshadowing brings back those Breaking Bad memories.

[DMC]

solid review of ep 5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbF2ym1rZ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sorry, I couldn't listen to the limp wristed faggot in purple.

[HarlemHeat37]

Everybody has already covered the pros of th show, but I fucking love the background music, tbh..

Every scene is perfectly done and the background always suits the mood perfectly, makes shit more suspenseful and intense to compliment both Cohle and Hart's respective personalities..

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Great ep this last week. Doubt Cohle is in on it. Pretty obvious his current state is part of his "ruse" and still working the case in 2012. Thinking Marty is helping him still and their "falling out" was all for show.

They made it too obvious that he was a suspect from the get go. It will be disappointing from a suspense standpoint if Rust is indeed the ringleader.

Seems to me that many of the issues that the investigators have is because of the inconsistencies from their writtne accounts and what they actually did. Like the robbery in the hood when he went overcover to apprehend the guy that gave the cook up first. There is a fair bit of dramatic irony as the investigators suspicions are juxtaposed with what they actually did. Sure they were lying about going to see his father and going on leave but it wasn't because they were perpetrating the crime.

The question at that point is if what we are shown is indeed what happened or if it is just a rendition of what they claimed to have happened.

[DesignatedT]

I don't think Cohle is in on it. The series has shown him put so much work into trying to solve the case it would just seem like a dumb move to make. I could actually see Hart having a connection. To it all before Cohle at this point.

Something is going on with Marty's daughter situation that we haven't really seen yet. How did his oldest become all goth? Before that why was she writing those graphic images in her journal and then the doll scene as well. I think there is a connection to it all through her and some past abuse or something.

[Mugen]

They made it too obvious that he was a suspect from the get go. It will be disappointing from a suspense standpoint if Rust is indeed the ringleader.

Seems to me that many of the issues that the investigators have is because of the inconsistencies from their writtne accounts and what they actually did. Like the robbery in the hood when he went overcover to apprehend the guy that gave the cook up first. There is a fair bit of dramatic irony as the investigators suspicions are juxtaposed with what they actually did. Sure they were lying about going to see his father and going on leave but it wasn't because they were perpetrating the crime.

The question at that point is if what we are shown is indeed what happened or if it is just a rendition of what they claimed to have happened.

I believe the writer/creator of the show did a interview and said that everything that we see in the flashbacks is what actually happened, not just a rendition of how Rust/Hart are remembering the events.

[Joyrider]

It's most definitely not Cohle. The writer said there are no surprises in how the story will end. So no crazy ending twist that Cohle is the killer and made everything up. Cohle has been deep undercover through all this and cannot not come clean to law enforcement in fear that they are connected too.

I see Hart daughter being molested by the father in law and him being a part of the cult. Hart being in the dark about all this will have a falling out with Cohle once he confronts him with evidence and that his father in law is involved. Shit is about to get real in the next episode.

[DMC]

"I want you to fuck me in the ass"

Anyone else have to watch that more than once?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I love this show more than my unborn children...fanboi for life. I was actually fist-pumping like a douchebag when Rust flagged Marty down at the end.:lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

"Actually, you buy me a beer."

[DeadlyDynasty]

"I want you to fuck me in the ass"

Anyone else have to watch that more than once?
Much hotter than that crazier chick he was fucking in ep 2 with the big gazongas

[DMC]

And what state police officer would put nude photos on his phone when he's married and already a known offender? He'd have erased that. If she can find it you know damn well he could as well.

Man I thought Rust had more stamina than that though, I wanted to see some Robert DeNiro "Cape Fear" fucking.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Another great touch is during that pursuit at the end they showed the vantage point from Rust's tail light he still hasn't fixed after throwing Marty into it 10 yrs earlier (at least I thought that was the same truck)

[DeadlyDynasty]

DMC, I know you weren't sold on Woody in the beginning of the season, but you had to love the beginning of episode 6...he was witty and calculated in that scene:lol

I'm not even a father yet and that must've been appreciated by some

[DMC]

DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665), I know you weren't sold on Woody in the beginning of the season, but you had to love the beginning of episode 6...he was witty and calculated in that scene:lol

I'm not even a father yet and that must've been appreciated by some

He was convincing. He's grown on me a bit because the role he's playing is that of a run of the mill detective who's played along with the office politics and just existed in the force for so long that he's blind or apathetic to real detective work. He's almost the antithesis to Matt.

[redzero]

Why did I ever start watching this show? Two more episodes left. Just two more damn episodes left.


"I want you to fuck me in the ass"

Anyone else have to watch that more than once?

Oh, I thought she said, "I want to fuck you at mass." I guess I have to watch that part again.

[Technique]

Why did I ever start watching this show? Two more episodes left. Just two more damn episodes left.



Oh, I thought she said, "I want to fuck you at mass." I guess I have to watch that part again.

You really thought that? Damn that's fucking hilarious!!!!

I was thinking like damn yeah I had a lot of girls say that to me.

[DMC]

You really thought that? Damn that's fucking hilarious!!!!

I was thinking like damn yeah I had a lot of girls say that to me.

Are you that dense Pantalones de Blanco?

[Mugen]

Much hotter than that crazier chick he was fucking in ep 2 with the big gazongas

http://i.imgur.com/NbDxMRE.png

[HarlemHeat37]

^^you must be a titty man, tbh, because the new chick >>> that butterface in every other facet:lol..

I love this show, it's on my elite tier so far, but the only shitty thing is that I can't imagine they'll be able to sustain excellence past season 1, tbh..

[DeadlyDynasty]

^^you must be a titty man, tbh, because the new chick >>> that butterface in every other facet:lol..

I love this show, it's on my elite tier so far, but the only shitty thing is that I can't imagine they'll be able to sustain excellence past season 1, tbh..
Yeah it'll inevitably be hard to rebound if the rumors are true about different detectives being in each season. Still, like you said this show is elite...and it never ceases to amaze me how much ground they cover in only 1 hour's time--all the while keeping a methodical pace. I feel like I've seen 3-4 seasons inside 6 eps. Love it

[HarlemHeat37]

I do think that changing the detectives is the smart move(different personalities, different potential for story lines), including for realism purposes(since it would be way too corny for the 5-0 to reinstate Cohle after he "saves the day"), but McConaughey and Harrelson are the main attraction of the show, so it'll inevitably lose it's edge, unfortunately..

[Joyrider]

The writer Nic hinted that next season will include two female detective leads instead.

[leemajors]

Tuttle is incredibly creepy, and it starts with his hair.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cohle's interrogation of that woman towards the beginning of the episode was awesomely sinister

[leemajors]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ssuz643zq1jwcotdi6eo.gif

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Maggie though
http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.nyc.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/02/SplendidParchedAoudad.gif

[leemajors]

Paul-Ben Victor as Major Salter was another excellent casting choice. Too bad he is only in this last ep.

[Mugen]

^^you must be a titty man, tbh, because the new chick >>> that butterface in every other facet:lol..

I love this show, it's on my elite tier so far, but the only shitty thing is that I can't imagine they'll be able to sustain excellence past season 1, tbh..

Guilty. And those breasts were top notch tbh.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pJ8oiFeGs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Mind=blown :wow
Time is a flat circle etc etc.

[Joyrider]

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/5310b1109c874.png

[DMC]

The writer Nic hinted that next season will include two female detective leads instead.Oh that's going to be good, Cagney and Lacey 2.0

[Joyrider]

Predictions? Discussions? Hopes?

I see the entire case coming to light and more of the puzzle coming together tonight. Can't believe it's almost over though :depressed

[Sybok]

Tuttle is too obvious a villain, would be a cheap result not at all worthy of Matt's performance or the writing and screenplay up to this point. No, it has to be creepier. Tuttle died, they said he was poisoned however they also said "we got our man". If they got their man, it wasn't Tuttle, and if killing is still happening, they didn't get their man.

Also remember "I saw you in my dreams, coming through the woods".

[ChumpDumper]

Tuttle is too obvious a villain, would be a cheap result not at all worthy of Matt's performance or the writing and screenplay up to this point. No, it has to be creepier. Tuttle died, they said he was poisoned however they also said "we got our man". If they got their man, it wasn't Tuttle, and if killing is still happening, they didn't get their man.

Also remember "I saw you in my dreams, coming through the woods".I think it's possible that Cohle offed Tuttle but knew that wasn't the end of it. Still need to find some dude with facial scars. It seems too late to introduce someone new, so I gotta go with Errol the lawn mowing dude as an obvious choice to be involved, and maybe a sprinkling of officials who have already made appearances.

[Sybok]

Or whatever happened to Errol also happened to this "giant".

[DeadlyDynasty]

Another great episode..."get those fuckin jumper cables, this guy's lying.":rollin

Marty's oldest is an "artist" on meds...should be interesting to see how/if that plays out

[ChumpDumper]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ssuz643zq1jwcotdi6eo.gifTuttle is pretty tall.

[Sybok]

Another great episode..."get those fuckin jumper cables, this guy's lying.":rollin

Marty's oldest is an "artist" on meds...should be interesting to see how/if that plays out

Could be that next year Marty's daughter is one of the "new" detectives?

This episode was, to me, just tying the past to the present and introducing a new direction. It's not going to be interesting if someone we know nothing about is the culprit. That means the entire show is really only about Marty and Russ, and the case is beside the point. I do like the "state is hiding things" angle, but we haven't been exposed to these guys enough to care.

[Sybok]

Now we know Russ did it, he was caught red handed with the small person in his hand tonight.

[Brunodf]

:lolThe gardener

I didn´t see that coming

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lolancestral research, mineral rights

[Sybok]

I'm beginning to dislike Marty's ex. I get it that Marty came to see her, but she went to see Russ. She started the shit by using Russ to get back at her husband. Now she wants to act concerned that Marty might be in danger. Give me a break, whore. Yeah I know he did it to her first, but she could have fucked anyone else. Why Russ?

Russ ain't letting that go though, and how she "forced him to lie to her about Marty". Russ still has some skeletons we've not seen. Something in that 4 years undercover will come to surface.

[redzero]

How is Pizzalicious going to resolve this shit with one episode left? Goddamn.

[Mugen]

music is top notch on this show tbh. sad there's only 1 ep left.

[Brunodf]

I'm beginning to dislike Marty's ex. I get it that Marty came to see her, but she went to see Russ. She started the shit by using Russ to get back at her husband. Now she wants to act concerned that Marty might be in danger. Give me a break, whore. Yeah I know he did it to her first, but she could have fucked anyone else. Why Russ?

Russ ain't letting that go though, and how she "forced him to lie to her about Marty". Russ still has some skeletons we've not seen. Something in that 4 years undercover will come to surface.
Yeah she is annoying, unless she is somehow involved and f#cked Russ to break them, but that would be crazy...

[JudynTX]

Ok so how many of you figured it out to be the Lawnmower Man?

[leemajors]

Ok so how many of you figured it out to be the Lawnmower Man?

I think he is definitely part of it, but I doubt it's that simple. I also don't think the Yellow King has to be an actual person.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

How is Pizzalicious going to resolve this shit with one episode left? Goddamn.
Hoping for a 2 hour season finale, tbh...

[leemajors]

Hoping for a 2 hour season finale, tbh...

Not getting one.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Goddamn, they even used Townes Van Zandt over the end credits. Amazing.

[JudynTX]

I think he is definitely part of it, but I doubt it's that simple. I also don't think the Yellow King has to be an actual person.

Something that keeps bugging me....I don't trust Maggie. How do we know she isn't one of Tuttle's bastard kids? And how in the hell did she get so rich after divorcing Marty?

[Sybok]

Something that keeps bugging me....I don't trust Maggie. How do we know she isn't one of Tuttle's bastard kids? And how in the hell did she get so rich after divorcing Marty?
Her parents own a lake house, so they are pretty well off already. She could have remarried.

[Spurminator]

Something that keeps bugging me....I don't trust Maggie. How do we know she isn't one of Tuttle's bastard kids?

This doesn't seem like the kind of show that would go for some cheap "It was the person close by that you least suspected!" resolution.

[leemajors]

This doesn't seem like the kind of show that would go for some cheap "It was the person close by that you least suspected!" resolution.


"I've enjoyed reading people theorize about what's going to happen because it's a sign that you're connecting," Pizzolatto told me. "But I'm also sort of surprised by how far afield they're getting. Like, why do you think we're tricking you? It's because you've been abused as an audience for more than 20 years. I cannot think of anything more insulting as an audience than to go through eight weeks, eight hours with these people, and then to be told it was a lie—that what you were seeing wasn't really what was happening. The show's not trying to outsmart you."

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I don't think we're going to be Shyamalaned here. Errol seems to be the one abducting everyone since he's moving up and down the coast then supplying them to various folks in whatever sexual abuse druid circle they got going on (Senator Tuttle and Sheriff Dickhole, et.al.) and offs them afterwards, some of them with the ritualistic touch. A couple of victims saw him without his mask; the one who provided the sketch probably saw him in a mask.

Audrey's going to have to be involved somehow. Her art is probably going to look kind of familiar.

[Spur-Addict]

Her parents own a lake house, so they are pretty well off already. She could have remarried.

I could've swore she re-married. When Marty went by to ask questions in the last episode, I thought I saw another guy in the pictures on the mantle. (Family Pictures)

[JudynTX]

It sure was weird her wearing that shirt with the stars on it. IJS

[ChumpDumper]

I'm beginning to dislike Marty's ex. I get it that Marty came to see her, but she went to see Russ. She started the shit by using Russ to get back at her husband. Now she wants to act concerned that Marty might be in danger. Give me a break, whore. Yeah I know he did it to her first, but she could have fucked anyone else. Why Russ?She said right after they did it that doing it with Rust was the only way she could be sure Marty would leave her.

Rust sounds like he's going to kill himself after he closes the case.

[leemajors]

I could've swore she re-married. When Marty went by to ask questions in the last episode, I thought I saw another guy in the pictures on the mantle. (Family Pictures)

She remarried.

[Sybok]

I don't know when the little girl went missing, but what if Cohle is her father and not who he claims to be?

[DPG21920]

Yup - sounds like the plan is to leave this world after he pays his debt.

[DPG21920]

I don't know when the little girl went missing, but what if Cohle is her father and not who he claims to be?

Highly doubt that.

[Sybok]

She said right after they did it that doing it with Rust was the only way she could be sure Marty would leave her.

Rust sounds like he's going to kill himself after he closes the case.
Or he has a terminal illness.

[Sybok]

I think we all know what the ending will be. 5 guys we don't know, one of them dead already (Tuttle) and 3 "helpers" (two dead already, the third is Errol). That was obvious from the start, just hoped it would go elsewhere.

[ChumpDumper]

Or he has a terminal illness.That would be a little cheap to not reveal this by now, though his liver can't be in good shape at this point.


I think we all know what the ending will be. 5 guys we don't know, one of them dead already (Tuttle) and 3 "helpers" (two dead already, the third is Errol). That was obvious from the start, just hoped it would go elsewhere.I think we may have seen a couple of them in seemingly insignificant scenes, but it will make sense looking back. If true there is an amazingly small amount of fat on this eight hours or tv.

I don't want a twist to the case myself.

[Proxy]

Feel like a lot of people have gone overboard in their theories. Maybe after coming off Breaking Bad, there's been an overload of symbol and foreshadowing analysis.

It's been great to have a show without some gimmicky twist. Pizzolato and Fukunaga nailed the noir/horror thing they have going here.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Antbody else remember when they visit Dora Lang's mother in ep 1 or 2? She had a framed pic of guys on horseback wearing animal masks

[Proxy]

Antbody else remember when they visit Dora Lang's mother in ep 1 or 2? She had a framed pic of guys on horseback wearing animal masks

here http://i.imgur.com/OAMUfU3.jpg

[CuckingFunt]

Antbody else remember when they visit Dora Lang's mother in ep 1 or 2? She had a framed pic of guys on horseback wearing animal masks

Could just be world building and/or subtle foreshadowing, rather than a hidden clue. As Rust mentioned in last night's episode whatever their ritual is has got connections to a traditional Cajun Mardi Gras.

[Darth_Pelican]

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/02/28/true-detective-spoilers.PNG

[Joyrider]

Who do you seeing taking a dirt nap? Rust definitely hinted at killing himself when he was drinking in the office with Marty. And Marty looks like he said his final good bye to Maggie when they talked early on. I can see hart dying saving rust. Paying him back for saving his ass after he killed Reggie. Sad times ahead since the show has made me so invested in these characters in such a short time.

[Mugen]

Pretty certain Rust is a goner with his dialogue in the last ep. Wouldn't be surprised if Marty dies as well.

Any kind of "twist" ending would be surprising and be a little cheap in my book, but I don't think it's headed down that path. A happy ending would surprise me as well. I'm leaning towards more of a Breaking Bad style finale than Sopranos tbh.

[Sybok]

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/02/28/true-detective-spoilers.PNG


http://i.imgur.com/OAMUfU3.jpg


Second guy from the right in the 5 horsemen pic is the guy in the drawing... that's the "Yellow King", probably Gov Tuttle.

[Sybok]

Pretty certain Rust is a goner with his dialogue in the last ep. Wouldn't be surprised if Marty dies as well.

Any kind of "twist" ending would be surprising and be a little cheap in my book, but I don't think it's headed down that path. A happy ending would surprise me as well. I'm leaning towards more of a Breaking Bad style finale than Sopranos tbh.

I feel Russ will die saving a little girl, and possibly Hart will remain to carry him out.

[DPG21920]

I can see Hart dying for Rust with the underlying understanding that Rust now owes a debt to him (live a better life, look after people/protect them).

[Mugen]

I can see Hart dying for Rust with the underlying understanding that Rust now owes a debt to him (live a better life, look after people/protect them).

Man, that'd be sad as hell for Rust tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Seems neither of them has much to live for outside this case. Watching them bond was damn sad.

[redzero]

I can see Hart dying for Rust with the underlying understanding that Rust now owes a debt to him (live a better life, look after people/protect them).

Does Hart say, "Earn this." right before he dies?

[DPG21920]

Man, that'd be sad as hell for Rust tbh.

It would - it would almost be a slap in the face from Hart. He knows Rust hates this world and to force him to live to honor a debt is almost an evil way of getting back at him.

Or...it could be (with all the forgiveness talk throughout the show) that he actually forgives him and wants him to live a more relaxed life knowing they finished their very important job together.

I'm not totally sold, but wouldn't be shocked.

[Mugen]

It would - it would almost be a slap in the face from Hart. He knows Rust hates this world and to force him to live to honor a debt is almost an evil way of getting back at him.

Or...it could be (with all the forgiveness talk throughout the show) that he actually forgives him and wants him to live a more relaxed life knowing they finished their very important job together.

I'm not totally sold, but wouldn't be shocked.

Yeah, I'm def going with the former. Rust doesn't strike me as the type of guy that can go the relaxed route. If he's done with this case then he'll just find something else to obsess over. This is his Alamo tbh.

[leemajors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd6nx-KnTwo#t=89

[Darth_Pelican]

http://www.thedailybeast.com:80/articles/2014/03/05/craziest-theories-of-how-true-detective-will-end-killer-marty-the-five-horsemen-and-more.html

:lmao the last theory

Craziest Theories of How ‘True Detective’ Will End: Killer Marty, the Five Horsemen, and MoreWith the series finale airing on Sunday night, here are the wackiest—and most logical—theories of how HBO’s addictive potboiler will come to an end. [Warning: Major Spoilers!]
On Sunday night, the saga of True Detective will come to an end. Over seven episodes, creator Nic Pizzolatto’s (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/04/inside-the-obsessive-strange-mind-of-true-detective-s-nic-pizzolatto.html) series has mesmerized audiences with the tale of Rust Cohle (Matthew McConaughey) and Marty Hart (Woody Harrelson), two Louisiana State Police homicide detectives on the hunt for a serial killer responsible for a string of sadistic, ritualistic murders. The series, directed by Cary Fukunaga (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/26/true-detective-director-cary-fukunaga-s-journey-from-pro-snowboarder-to-hollywood-s-most-wanted.html), is set in three time periods and spans seventeen years.
The show has also, with its myriad references to the occult, recurring imagery, elliptical-philosophical dialogue, and general weirdness, prompted viewer's imaginations to run wild, cooking up far-fetched (and not-so-far-fetched) theories of how the show will wrap things up.

According to HBO, the final episode airing March 9 will be titled “Form And Void,” and comes with the following logline: “An overlooked detail provides Hart and Cohle with an important new lead in their 17-year-old case.”
Hmm. Your guess is as good as ours.

Without further ado, here are the craziest—and most sensible—theories of how True Detective will come to a close.


Marty is the Killer … and the Clues Have Been Right Under Our Noses

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Many, including the folks at Yahoo! TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/hbo-true-detective-poster-yellow-king-clue-195650813.html), have theorized that Woody Harrelson’s character might be the killer. It’s an interesting theory, and one with some logic behind it. Why did Marty go crazy and shoot Reggie LeDoux in the head? Was it because he was so disgusted by the vision of LeDoux's child victims, or to shut someone up who could finger him as the killer? Also, there have been numerous references throughout the show to “The Yellow King,” a reference to Robert W. Chambers’ collection of short stories, The King in Yellow, (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/20/read-the-king-in-yellow-the-true-detective-reference-that-s-the-key-to-the-show.html) being at the heart of the killings. The promotional poster for HBO’s True Detective has an odd split-design, cutting off Marty’s blond hair at the top, and leaving us with a blond-headed crown at the bottom. Furthermore, the show is called True Detective—not True Detectives, plural—so perhaps only one of the men (Rust?) is the “true” detective, and Marty is the killer.


The Five Horsemen
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The most logical theory, it seems, is the Five Horsemen theory—that there were five men involved in the ritualistic killings on True Detective. My colleague, Andrew Romano, expounded on this in his epic essay (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/02/how-true-detective-will-end-what-we-know-up-to-episode-7-after-you-ve-gone.html) on how the series will (probably) wrap up, and indeed, there’s a wealth of evidence: the five men on horses dressed in black Cajun Mardi Gras capuchins engulfing Dora Lange in a photograph at her mother’s house; five male dolls surrounding one naked female doll in a gang rape scenario on the floor of Audrey's and Maisie’s (Marty’s daughter’s) bedroom; five Lone Star beer can men crafted by Rust on the interrogation room table; that the black stars, a symbol of the possible cult that was found by Rust at the abandoned school, tattooed on the neck of the prostitute in Episode 2 who told Rust and Marty about Dora Lange’s involvement in a weird church, etc., each have five points; and there are five masked figures involved in the gang rape video Rust uncovered and showed to Marty in the penultimate episode. In the same episode, it’s revealed that the “Five Horsemen” may all be members of the same “rich” family—presumably the Tuttle’s.


Audrey is Doomed
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There’s a great deal of evidence suggesting that Audrey (Erin Moriarty), Marty’s eldest daughter, will meet a grave end in the True Detective finale. Here’s what we know: the picture in Dora Lange’s house of a young blond girl surrounded by the “Five Horsemen” looks an awful lot like young Audrey; when Audrey was a child in ’95, she was punished in school for scribbling drawings of people having sex in her notebook. In one of the drawings, a masked man is depicted, while in others, the women appear to be wearing some sort of animal mask. When young Audrey is questioned by her parents about how she came up with the images, she cries, but remains mum; there’s a spiral drawing (echoing the spiral tattoo on Dora’s back) hanging in the Hart kitchen in 1995; a picture of Audrey next to a painting of hers in 2012 depicting a character sporting black stars, similar to the tattoos on the aforementioned prostitute in Episode 2; there are identical flower paintings on the wall of the psychiatric ward Rust visits in 2002, and a framed painting in Marty’s bedroom; and Audrey sported a crown with tassles in 1995 that’s very similar to the ceremonial crown seen on the gang rape victim in the disturbing video that Rust shows Marty in the shed.
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Also, we know that Audrey became a problem child in 2002, having been caught with two older boys having sex in a car, and later, in 2012, she is heavily medicated, according to Maggie. Was Audrey a victim of the Five Horsemen, and will some terrible fate befall her?


Rust Will Commit Suicide… or Sacrifice Himself
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A popular theory circulating the Internet is that our hero, Rust, will commit suicide. This idea is largely thanks to a quote uttered by Rust while in conversation with Marty during Episode 7, where he tells him, “My life’s been a circle of violence and degradation as long as I can remember. I’m ready to tie it off.” Is it the violence and degradation that Rust’s ready to tie off, or is he actually suicidal? Here’s what we know about Rust: by 2012, he’s boozed up but still obsessed with solving the Dora Lange case. He tends bar. He has no women in his life save the pictures of slain bodies. He lost his daughter in a car accident. The only thing that seems to keep him going is solving the case.

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There’s a moment in Episode 1 where, during a long car ride with Marty, Rust goes on a lengthy rant about the sorry state of humanity, and how the only noble thing for us to do is kill ourselves. “We are creatures that should not exist by natural law,” he says. “We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self—a secretion of sensory experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact, everybody’s nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand-in-hand into extinction—one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.” When Marty asks why he’s even living, Rust responds, “I lack the constitution for suicide.” Perhaps. But that was in 1995. In that same conversation, Rust tells Marty he isn’t religious, even though a huge cross hangs in his Spartan apartment. Rust says it’s because: “I contemplate the moment in the garden… the idea of allowing your own crucifixion.” If Rust indeed lacks the “constitution” for suicide, perhaps Rust will end up sacrificing himself to save Maggie, Audrey, or Marty—whom he still feels he owes penance to for having sex with Maggie—to save them from The Yellow King.



You Don’t Mow Another Guy’s Lawn!
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This is one of the more comical theories that’s been passed around online. It involves the strange confrontation between Rust and Marty in Episode 3, entitled “The Locked Room.” Marty comes home to find Rust in a tank top chatting up his wife, Maggie, in the kitchen. Rust claims he stopped by to return the lawn mower he’d borrowed, and ended up thanking the family by mowing the lawn, which makes Marty irate.
“You mow my lawn?!” he screams. “No problem. I just don’t ever want you mowin’ my lawn, all right? I like mowin’ my lawn.”
Some, funnily enough, have said the scene is a nod to the Farrelly Brothers’s film Kingpin, when Woody Harrelson’s character diffuses a fight with a group of local toughs (played by Roger Clemens), by punching his pal in the face and screaming, “You don’t mow another guy’s lawn!”
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When I spoke to Cary Fukunaga (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/26/true-detective-director-cary-fukunaga-s-journey-from-pro-snowboarder-to-hollywood-s-most-wanted.html), he mentioned McConaughey’s role as Larry Dickens in a 1992 episode of Unsolved Mysteries, saying, “Have you seen McConaughey in Unsolved Mysteries? Even back then, it’s a great performance! And he’s mowing the lawn.” In the episode, Dickens’s mother is named “Dorothy Lang”—True Detective centers on the death of Dora Lange—a creepy man in the episode exposes himself to a group of kids, drives a red pickup truck that looks an awful lot like Cohle’s on the show, and shoots McConaughey’s character to death when he sacrifices himself to protect his mother. Will Rust have a similar fate?
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The Lawnmower Man
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At the end of Episode 7, we’re presented with “The Lawnmower Man” again, Errol Childress, who is presumably the “green-eared spaghetti monster” revealed in the pilot that reportedly chased a child through the woods, resulting in this look-alike sketch. (http://i.imgur.com/Ee1Ea43.jpg)
We last saw Errol in Episode 3, when he conversed with Marty and Rust while mowing the lawn of one of the Tuttle’s schools. Also in Episode 7: a LeDoux cousin told us that during a hunting trip with Reggie he encountered a man with scars “underneath his nose and cheeks” who gave him “funny looks,” and Tobey Boulere said that one of the “three younger men” involved in sexual misconduct at his school had “bad scars around the bottom half of his mouth, like he got all burned up.” And the Tuttle housekeeper also remembered a man with a scarred face whom she believes was one of Sam Tuttle’s grandchildren, and added, “I think his daddy did that to him.”
“My family’s been here a long, long time,” he mutters to himself at episode’s end. The camera then pulls away to reveal that he’s mowing in a spiral shape similar to the one found tattooed on Dora Lange’s back, as well as the group of birds in a spiral formation (http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/19fp0h85gt55ijpg.jpg) witnessed by Rust. Is Errol mowing grounds where The Yellow King’s unfound victims lay buried? Is he doing this against his will? Or is he merely another victim of the Tuttle’s wrath?
Many believe that the 1992 sci-fi film The Lawnmower Man holds some answers when it comes to Errol’s backstory. The film centers on Jobe Smith, a mentally disabled greenskeeper who lives in a tiny garden shed owned by Father Francis McKeen, a local priest. Father McKeen routinely beats Jobe. Later, when he gets mixed up in an experiment that makes him smarter, he exacts revenge on all those who abused him when he was “dumb,” including Father McKeen, who is burned to death. Is Errol, perhaps, a victim? And will he be the one who exacts revenge on Sam Tuttle?


It’s All About ‘Nam
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The most insane theory has been saved for last. A Reddit user who goes by the handle “simplyravishing” posted (http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/comments/1y9fnb/crackpot_theory_the_king_in_yellow_spoilers/) that “The Yellow King,” who’s presumably at the heart of the ritualistic killings in True Detective, is none other than “the owner of the Vietnamese restaurant from Episode 3.” His/her evidence for this theory is that Rust and Marty “somehow not only found, but ate at a Vietnamese restaurant in the backwoods of Louisiana,” and that most of the people linked to the cult have been “white guys with white power ideals” like LeDoux and Lange, who would probably refer to a Vietnamese person as “yellow.” Furthermore, there’s the scene where Rust describes LeDoux’s “little shop of horrors as being reminiscent of the way his father described Vietnam,” so we can assume that some nasty stuff went down there. I’ll let simplyravishing take it from here:
The King in Yellow is a Vietnamese refugee who made his way to the United States after the war in an effort to track down Mr. Cohle and any of his living family members to repay him for the atrocities he committed against the King's family in Vietnam. Rust didn't choose to leave Alaska, his father sent him to the relative safety of Texas after training him how to survive the relentless onslaught of the King in Yellow's vengeance. Then, as the investigators stated, Mr. Cohle vanished from the map (the first step in the King's ultimate plan).


After the ‘accident’ involving Rust's daughter (orchestrated by the King in Yellow), Rust knew he had to disappear or face certain death so he chose to go deep cover, finding that to be a safer way to live than be out in the open without a badge where he would be easy for the King in Yellow to pick off. Once, Rust was allowed to resume normal life and take a job as a detective in the Louisiana State Police, the King in Yellow relocated to Louisiana, opened a Vietnamese restaurant as a front to avoid suspicion, and began gaining the loyalty of local criminals by offering them a direct line to his narcotic connections in Southeast Asia. The Lange murder and the cult sculptures are simply breadcrumbs the King in Yellow is using to lure Rust into a trap and finally finish his ultimate quest for revenge.
Wow.

[txstr1986]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NgFDmht4Xo#t=57

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc6yyBvLpCc

[Spur-Addict]

:lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd6nx-KnTwo#t=89



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NgFDmht4Xo#t=57

:lolThis is definitely the next Hitler/Downfall

[txstr1986]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zTSDFiI24#t=54

[sook]

jesus christ all the fucking over analyzing makes me want to stop talking about the show on the internet.


Can't wait for the finale tomorrow.

[Joyrider]

http://i.imgur.com/x8Bdzvv.png

[ChumpDumper]

Hart and Cohle have painted themselves in such a corner by kidnapping Sheriff Dickhole I don't know how they can get out without one of them (Cohle) being sacrificed in one way or another.

[DPG21920]

Hart and Cohle have painted themselves in such a corner by kidnapping Sheriff Dickhole I don't know how they can get out without one of them (Cohle) being sacrificed in one way or another.

Well, if they can prove his involvement and blow the case open, they can absolve themselves of that issue.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, if they can prove his involvement and blow the case open, they can absolve themselves of that issue.Tough to see with Rust, given his rep.

Just speculating. Only a gimmick ending would be disappointing, and I can't see that happening.

[DPG21920]

Well, they have lied for each other before. You get a lot of credibility when you build a case and solve a high profile case as they thought they did. Same thing to me.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, they have lied for each other before.Right. I can see their lying to make Marty the hero again with Rust taking a fall. It's not like Rust cares about anything else now.

[DPG21920]

I see - I just think that if they truly finish the job, there will be no legal issue for Rust. If he wants out he would do it on his own terms, but we will see..

[Proxy]

I'd be surprised if Rust didn't die before credits roll. Both have nothing to live for.


I have to admit, Rust not remembering the lawn mower guy isn't consistent with his character. Bothers me a little bit. Also, painting the spiral symbol on the inside of the storage unit door was a little silly.

[ChumpDumper]

Rewatching 7 I want to torture Sheriff Open Carry Maserati myself.

[DPG21920]

Well damn. Just like that it's over.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I almost cried from that last line, real talk

[Sybok]

I almost cried from that last line, real talk

A bit cheesy and not true to Cohle's character imo.

[DPG21920]

I don't really even want to watch any other tv shows after this. I don't think they will add up. I have only watched 2 shows in my life (because I either watch sports, news or movies): Sons of Anarchy & True Detective.

[DeadlyDynasty]

A bit cheesy and not true to Cohle's character imo.
That's what made it so great to me--for HIM to say that line after all he's been through just felt like an emotional high. I'm glad he didn't kill himself or was sacrificed or any other proposed plot twists. I loved it, man...no homo

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:cry yes damnit, yes....

[Sybok]

That's what made it so great to me--for HIM to say that line after all he's been through just felt like an emotional high. I'm glad he didn't kill himself or was sacrificed or any other proposed plot twists. I loved it, man...no homo

I didn't want the ending to be him having a religious experience as if his entire life was a lie and a dream he had while in a coma was the truth.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It was a dignified and satisfying way of wrapping up his character, w/o killing him. Now they can't go back to him now b/c he's a changed man, w/o the dark, brooding edginess. I see why you'd disagree and I ain't saying you're wrong, but to me his catharsis and emotional 180 was a nice alternative to convenient death/suicide. I'm American afterall, we're suckers for happy endings:lol

[leemajors]

epic hbogo fail tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

btw there was still plenty of darkness to go around at the end...

-Tuttles were spared
-The other horsemen weren't directly revealed/caught
-The scene where Marty's ex-wife and kids visit him in the hospital and he breaks down b/c he threw away a good thing.

[DPG21920]

The genius of it was that it was straightforward. There wasn't some epic thing - it just happened. I love that we weren't lied to and just got to see it play out and all the demons/emotions/release that came along with it. It reminds me of No Country for Old Men. People either loved it or hated it. Most that hated it did so IMO because there wasn't the clean wrap up/happy ended. It just ended.

[leemajors]

TWC's activation servers are fucked, so lame. True Detective finale is owning HBO and TWC

[Sybok]

So how long before "critics" call it a "farce" that was foisted upon it's viewers using a-list actors as smoke screens for the obviously shitty storyline?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

"Well, once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning."