Why is nobody still talking about Bengazi....Bengazi...Bengazi?

[Nbadan]

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Declassified Benghazi Transcripts destroys Fox's Benghazi Myths


Last edited Tue Jan 14, 2014, 08:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Declassified Transcripts Of Benghazi Briefings Released: On January 13, Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-CA) released formerly classified transcripts of committee hearings on the September 11, 2012 attacks on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya.

General Ham: "I Have Not Found The Intelligence That Would Indicate That An Attack In Benghazi Was Imminent And That Subsequent Security Should Have Been Deployed." In his June 26, 2013, testimony to the House Armed Services Committee, General Carter Ham -- commander, United States Africa Command, at the time of the attacks -- stated there was no intelligence indicating an imminent attack in Benghazi prior to the attacks:

HAM: Leading up to the events of 11 September, watching the intelligence very carefully as all of us did and post attack having the opportunity to review the intelligence, I still don't find -- I have not found the intelligence that would indicate that an attack in Benghazi was imminent and that subsequent security should have been deployed.



There is lots more of their BS untangled. Definitely worth a full read.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/01/14/declassified-benghazi-transcripts-debunk-foxs-f/

[boutons_deux]

and still the right-wing sheeple, suckers, jerks, bubbas, patriots, gun fellators, rednecks watch Fox as their primary, only? news source and still vote Repug :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Why is nobody still talking about Bengazi....Bengazi...Bengazi?
Why wear it out before election time?

[ChumpDumper]

Why wear it out before election time?what specifically is there to talk about?

[Trainwreck2100]

Obamacare's failure at launch gave them something to actually talk about

[Jacob1983]

Obama is a dumber fuck on foreign policy than Bush. Plain and simple.

[ChumpDumper]

Obama is a dumber fuck on foreign policy than Bush. Plain and simple.
In what way?

[Jacob1983]

Bush wanted to nation build in the Middle East. Obama doesn't know what the fuck he wants when it comes to foreign policy. At least with dumbass Bush, you knew what you were getting. Obama tries to play it off like he is nothing like Bush but he is just bullshitting everyone. It's pathetic but he is a politician and that's what they do. We shouldn't be surprised.

[boutons_deux]

"Bush wanted to nation build in the Middle East."

bull fucking shit.

the dubya/dickhead/necons/BigOil/PNAC wanted access to Iraqi oil, so they LIED the USA into Iraq.

As a result, Obama now has to deal with a badly broken, destablized Middle East (Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, etc) to go along with the Repugs' broken, destabilized Afghanistan.

Repug nation building? G M A F B

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Why wear it out before election time?

:lmao thinking most of America gives a shit about Benghazi

[RandomGuy]

Obama doesn't know what the fuck he wants when it comes to foreign policy.

That doesn't really narrow anything down.

What makes you say this? What is this based on?

I am no huge fan of the current president, but statements like this tend to fall into the "hysterical" column in my mind.

[RandomGuy]

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Hopefully this will be the nail in the coffin of a story that should have been dead months ago.

Anybody with any sense realized it was a tragedy that we should take steps to avoid in the future, and that is about it.

It certainly wasn't the fuck up that Republicans wanted it to be for crass political purposes. Fuckers that jumped up and down about this shit were the same putrid cesspools that ignored the thousands of dead service members that resulted from one of their own party members' colossal tactical failures in Iraq from 2003-2006.

[Wild Cobra]

:lmao thinking most of America gives a shit about Benghazi
Most Americans care about what the media tells them to.

[ChumpDumper]

Most Americans care about what the media tells them to.So it't not going to be an issue in the election.

Make up your mind.

[spursncowboys]

Obamacare's failure gave them something to actually talk aboutfixed

[Wild Cobra]

So it't not going to be an issue in the election.

Make up your mind.

LOL...

You are so correct this time. The media elects every president, since we have too many people who are led by them as to how to think.

[Jacob1983]

I laugh at Obama jizz drinkers that get so defensive when someone points out the obvious similarities between Obama and Bush on foreign policy.

[ChumpDumper]

I laugh at Obama jizz drinkers that get so defensive when someone points out the obvious similarities between Obama and Bush on foreign policy.You just said they were different.

Make up your mind.

[Wild Cobra]

I laugh at Obama jizz drinkers that get so defensive when someone points out the obvious similarities between Obama and Bush on foreign policy.
Similar actions, but their reasons are different.

[Jacob1983]

Obama is a warmonger just like Bush. Obama does it because he uses the humanitarian excuse. Bush used the threat on our freedom and security excuse. If you can't see how they are basically clones of each other on foreign policy then you're a fuckin' idiot and/or a koolaid drinker.

[ElNono]

fixed

No, he's right (and I think Barrycare is a clusterfuck too)

Now you have millions of people getting coverage with subsidies, and it's only bound to get bigger. That's why you won't see the GOP bringing up Barrycare in negotiations (didn't happen in the budget deal, won't happen in the debt ceiling).

They will campaign on how the launch of Barrycare was an epic fail (and they'll be right), but IMO, you'll hear less and less campaigning on repeal.

[Nbadan]

UPDATED: Senate report: Benghazi attack could have been prevented
Last edited Wed Jan 15, 2014, 05:11 PM - Edit history (2)
Source: Washington Post


A long-delayed Senate intelligence committee report released on Wednesday spreads blame among the State Department and intelligence agencies for not preventing an attack at an outpost in Libya that killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens. The report says the State Department failed to increase security at the compound despite warnings, and faults intelligence agencies for not informing the U.S. military about the existence of a secret CIA outpost at the site.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senate-report-attack-on-us-compound-in-benghazi-could-have-been-prevented/2014/01/15/5e197224-7de9-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html


Senate Report: 15 Libyan Sources For Benghazi Investigation Since Killed
CATHERINE THOMPSON – JANUARY 15, 2014, 11:24 AM EST



A delayed Senate report released Wednesday on the 2012 Benghazi attacks argued an FBI investigation has been weakened by the deaths of a number of cooperating Libyan sources.

The Washington Post highlighted the report's finding that 15 individuals who were "supporting the investigation or otherwise helpful to the United States" have been killed since the attacks. It's unclear if those killings were in any way related to the U.S. investigation, according to the report.

"The FBI's investigation into the individuals responsible for the Benghazi attacks has been hampered by inadequate cooperation and a lack of capacity by foreign governments to hold these perpetrators accountable, making the pursuit of justice for the attacks slow and insufficient," the report read.

The Senate report concluded that the attacks were preventable, faulting the State Department and intelligence agencies for failing to increase security at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi and share information about a secret CIA annex that was also attacked.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report_15_killed_benghazi_investigation

[Nbadan]

Highlights of Senate’s Benghazi report
ASSOCIATED PRESS


Some main points of the Senate Intelligence Committee report on the terrorist assault on the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya:

— Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was among those killed that night, had twice in the weeks before the attacks declined the U.S. military’s offer of a team of special operations forces that had been available to bolster security and provide other help. The State Department had decided not to request an extension of the team’s presence, about a month before the attacks, because officials thought the job could be done by local or department security.

— The report recommends that only in rare cases should a diplomatic facility continue to operate if it falls short of the State Department’s security standards — and in such cases the facility should have the personnel, weapons and fire safety equipment needed to address the threat. The State Department should be ready to evacuate or close diplomatic missions facing the highest threat, the report says.

— The report recommends that the intelligence community expand its work to analyze social media used by extremists, noting that little of that was done before the attacks and it’s possible there were hints in web postings of trouble ahead.

— Operations in Benghazi continued with little change even though the mission crossed some “tripwires” that should have led to reduction in personnel or the suspension of operations. Some nations closed their diplomatic facilities because of worsening security conditions in the summer of 2012. But others stayed, contrary to reports the U.S. was the last country represented there.

— An unarmed U.S. military drone was not delayed when responding to the attack, and it provided important information during the attacks.

more
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/highlights_of_senates_benghazi_report/

[Nbadan]

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[Nbadan]

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[spursncowboys]

No, he's right (and I think Barrycare is a clusterfuck too)

Now you have millions of people getting coverage with subsidies, and it's only bound to get bigger. That's why you won't see the GOP bringing up Barrycare in negotiations (didn't happen in the budget deal, won't happen in the debt ceiling).

They will campaign on how the launch of Barrycare was an epic fail (and they'll be right), but IMO, you'll hear less and less campaigning on repeal.

Well yeah. I doubt you need two hands to count the times a govt program got repealed. But I don't think it will ever become what the Dems and Obama sold it as. It'll always be a deficit. Much like the Hope Scholarship.
It does not solve the problems with HMO's, uninsured, or prices. The only good thing, I've found from it, is preexisting. But since now Insurance co. can collude prices, the fix was that we all pay for people's pre existing.

[pgardn]

Most Americans care about what the media tells them to.

Who exactly is the media? Were you in Libya to witness the events? How do you obtain information about events that you cannot witness? Do tell... Should we care about Chemtrails more? if so we got mouse as our media...

Loose conservative blather. Let's have your sources of information and the most relevant news of the day. You choose for us. Since The Media guides us, you must now guide.
Start... Now.

[boutons_deux]

"launch of Barrycare was an epic fail"

and it was fixed, the contractor removed. Repugs and you right-wing fucktards didn't whine about hype-wealthy monster Oracle screwing up OR's exchange, or other private companies screwing up other state exchanges, or the cluster-fuck when MA launched their highly successful and popular universal insurance system.

All y'all's cherry picking destroys any credibility and good faith.

Obamacare, now cemented in place for FUCKING ever, will be fixed and improved right in the face of Repug sabotage.

Eventually, poor people getting health care sooner will save $100Bs later by pre-empting tax-payer-paid health expenses for their more advanced diseases, like CVD, diabetes, BP.

[EVAY]

No, he's right (and I think Barrycare is a clusterfuck too)

Now you have millions of people getting coverage with subsidies, and it's only bound to get bigger. That's why you won't see the GOP bringing up Barrycare in negotiations (didn't happen in the budget deal, won't happen in the debt ceiling).

They will campaign on how the launch of Barrycare was an epic fail (and they'll be right), but IMO, you'll hear less and less campaigning on repeal.

I think this is right. But the reason there will be less campaigning on repeal, imo, is because the repeal effort got so entwined with the gov't. shut down that the public won't support a candidate who they think will try that route again.

[spursncowboys]

I think this is right. But the reason there will be less campaigning on repeal, imo, is because the repeal effort got so entwined with the gov't. shut down that the public won't support a candidate who they think will try that route again.
Repeal definitely isn't a valid strategy without a counter.

[boutons_deux]

Repeal definitely isn't a valid strategy without a counter.

even with a replacement, which the Repugs don't have, and won't ever have, ACA repeal is totally out of the question now.

[EVAY]

Repeal definitely isn't a valid strategy without a counter.

Yeah I think this is also true. They have to have something to replace it with. Doesn't really seem like it would be all that hard to come up with an improvement, and almost any candidate of either party who runs on improving the program would seem to have a leg up.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Obama is a warmonger just like Bush. Obama does it because he uses the humanitarian excuse. Bush used the threat on our freedom and security excuse. If you can't see how they are basically clones of each other on foreign policy then you're a fuckin' idiot and/or a koolaid drinker.

Bush acted unilaterally in almost all cases. Obama won't take a piss without the EU to hold his dick. He let France take the lead in Libya and when he couldn't get any support to intervene in Syria, he waffled and peed his pants. We did nothing.

Bush basically told Germany et al to go fuck themselves and attacked anyway. If you cannot see the fundamental difference in the approaches that is pretty sad.

[Jacob1983]

Still both are war mongers in my book. I'd say Obama is the type of war monger that is a pussy and wants everyone to like him even though his war mongering will have huge blowback. Bush's war mongering had huge blowback as well.

[AntiChrist]

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/world/senate-intelligence-committee-report-on-benghazi-attack/748/


So, Dan thinks this report exhonerates this admin? Mmkay.

[boutons_deux]

Still both are war mongers in my book. I'd say Obama is the type of war monger that is a pussy and wants everyone to like him even though his war mongering will have huge blowback. Bush's war mongering had huge blowback as well.

Which wars has Obama started? iow, the ones that the Repugs hadn't already started.

[Jacob1983]

Boutons, did you know that Obama tried desperately to extend then war in Iraq? Who ended the war in Iraq? I want to know your answer to that. Obama basically extended the length of the war in Afghanistan and has made things worse in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Libya. Your guy is a war monger brah.

[ElNono]

Well yeah. I doubt you need two hands to count the times a govt program got repealed. But I don't think it will ever become what the Dems and Obama sold it as. It'll always be a deficit. Much like the Hope Scholarship.
It does not solve the problems with HMO's, uninsured, or prices. The only good thing, I've found from it, is preexisting. But since now Insurance co. can collude prices, the fix was that we all pay for people's pre existing.

I think we all know it would never become what was promised. I can't think of a program that is. I agree it doesn't rein in prices, etc, and the profit motive still reins supreme over the concerns about care.
It is an extremely flawed law, but IMO, sometimes you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet. In other words, a necessary stepping stone to move away from the previous status quo, which had much of the same problems, and into refocusing towards solutions that include the laundry list you included above.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Still both are war mongers in my book. I'd say Obama is the type of war monger that is a pussy and wants everyone to like him even though his war mongering will have huge blowback. Bush's war mongering had huge blowback as well.

What war did Obama even start? He had the troop surge in 2009 sure but we were already there. He switched from cruise missiles to drones for blowing up enemy combatants.

[Jacob1983]

Stop trying to defend Obama and open your eyes. He's got just as much blood on his hands as Bush does.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Stop trying to defend Obama and open your eyes. He's got just as much blood on his hands as Bush does.

Defending Obama? gmfb. I cannot stand the man for his lies regarding banking regulation and personal liberty. I am just not going to play the GOP fluffer and take the anti-Obama stance on every fucking issue.

Stop laying out empty platitudes and discuss policy.

Obama wanting to keep 3k troops in Iraq after the 2012 withdrawal deadline is not nearly the same as invading two countries. Had Obama invaded Syria and Libya then I would agree with you but as I pointed out he won't do anything unilaterally.

[spurraider21]

i don't know how anybody could look back at the last 5 years and say "job well done" tbh. not that the other candidates were any better, but shit :lol

[Jacob1983]

You want to know policy? Obama has basically expanded everything that Bush started on the war on terror. Bush waterboarded people. Obama drones the shit out of people. Bush used missiles. Obama uses drones. Obama has given himself the power to detain yo ass indefinitely without trial. Obama has initiated coups that created massive blowback in Syria, Egypt, and Libya. Obama has done nothing for bank regulation or lobbying. Obama is a whore for corporations and big banks. Anything else I mentioned? Oh I forgot, he publicly said he supports gay marriage so let's give him a medal for that.

[boutons_deux]

Boutons, did you know that Obama tried desperately to extend then war in Iraq? Who ended the war in Iraq? I want to know your answer to that. Obama basically extended the length of the war in Afghanistan and has made things worse in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Libya. Your guy is a war monger brah.

"tried desperately" link?

"extended the length of the war in Afghanistan"

really? how? the surge tried to end it after your boys dubya/dickhead started it in 2001 and failed to end it by 2009.

"has made things worse in Egypt ..."

they were broken and prepared to break after YOUR boys dubya/dickhead/Repugs invaded Iraq and destabilized the entire region.

and list for us all the Repugs who rampaging and agitating to get out of Iraq, Afganistan, then you have the Repugs who want to bomb Syria and Iran.

[boutons_deux]

Five Reasons Benghazi Wasn’t Hillary Clinton’s Fault

1. The Senate report does not so much as mention Secretary Clinton, so it cannot be used to damn her.

2. Ambassador Stevens repeatedly asked that security not be increased at the Benghazi consulate. (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jan/15/senate-committee-says-benghazi-attacks-preventable/)I know US diplomatic personnel posted to places like Beirut where the US embassy is a fortress and they just can’t very easily get out and mingle with Lebanese. They deeply regret the imposed isolation and feel it interferes with them doing their jobs as diplomats. But, well, security in Beirut for embassies isn’t always very good. I was in Libya in May-June 2012 and walked around without incident, and it just was not the case that the situation was Beirut-like at that time. Stevens had supported the Libyan revolution and valued his ability to move among Libyans, who loved him, and did not want to be isolated by security. The Secretary of State doesn’t micromanage these matters, an Stevens was rightly given control over this issue.

3. There was a CIA annex near the consulate, and it included former special ops guys that consular officials including Stevens saw as the “cavalry.” That group of operatives did play an important role in getting the remaining 55 consular personnel out of Benghazi but in the end could not protect Stevens. CIA safe houses are covert. The Senate report makes clear that the US military was not apprised of its existence. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senate-report-attack-on-us-compound-in-benghazi-could-have-been-prevented/2014/01/15/5e197224-7de9-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html) Very likely, Secretary Clinton was not told about it either. If she was not told the details of what security arrangements were in place, she would have had no basis for questioning them. That there was something covert about the entire US operation in Benghazi seems clear, which means that then CIA director David Petraeus was probably more involved than Hillary was, but the GOP never brings him up with regard to Benghazi.

4. The Senate report found that after the attacks “there was no cover-up.” (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senate-report-attack-on-us-compound-in-benghazi-could-have-been-prevented/2014/01/15/5e197224-7de9-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html)Since the Secretary of State doesn’t actually make decisions about individual consular security arrangements, it was only after the attack that Secretary Clinton would have become intimately involved with the Libyan mission. She acted with probity in the aftermath, which is all you could ask. The senate report’s conviction that there were no demonstrations in Benghazi that day against the US based on an anti-Islam film made in the US is contradicted by eyewitnesses on the ground, including Libyans involved in them, (http://www.juancole.com/2013/12/benghazi-correspondent-demolishes.html) and this talking point seems to have been some sort of concession to the Republicans on the committee by the Democrats; as often is the case, yielding to Republican weird convictions produces positions at odds with reality. If we listened to them, we’d have to give up evolution, minimum wages, separation of religion and state, and climate change, too.

5. While the Senate felt that the tragedy was “preventable,” hindsight is 20/20. There wasn’t any reason for Stevens (or Secretary Clinton) to fear that the revolutionaries whom he had aided would turn on him, and 99% did not. But a small radical group with old grievances against the US cut him no slack for his heroic role in 2011, and that could not have been foreseen. This small group was not an al-Qaeda affiliate and was not important in governing the city in 2011-2012.

http://www.juancole.com/2014/01/reasons-benghazi-clintons.html

Where are, where were, all the Fox/Repug investigations into the multiple diplomats killed overseas in multiple sites under dubya/dickhead?

[Nbadan]

I think we all know it would never become what was promised. I can't think of a program that is. I agree it doesn't rein in prices, etc, and the profit motive still reins supreme over the concerns about care.
It is an extremely flawed law, but IMO, sometimes you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet. In other words, a necessary stepping stone to move away from the previous status quo, which had much of the same problems, and into refocusing towards solutions that include the laundry list you included above.

well...it's already reining in the annual rising costs of heath-care, which was inflationary to all families...its a flawed law because it caters to the benefit of the health-care industry which co-opted the law and quickly stomped out any chance of single-payer ...still, my health-care cost is pretty much the same as last year, but my insurance company can not longer dump me if I get sick or bail on me after some predetermined spending limit..

[Nbadan]

dp

[Wild Cobra]

Excuses excuses...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You want to know policy? Obama has basically expanded everything that Bush started on the war on terror. Bush waterboarded people. Obama drones the shit out of people. Bush used missiles. Obama uses drones. Obama has given himself the power to detain yo ass indefinitely without trial. Obama has initiated coups that created massive blowback in Syria, Egypt, and Libya. Obama has done nothing for bank regulation or lobbying. Obama is a whore for corporations and big banks. Anything else I mentioned? Oh I forgot, he publicly said he supports gay marriage so let's give him a medal for that.

The difference between drones and cruise missiles is a delivery system. This notion that blowing someone up with a cruise missile is somehow better than with a hellfire missile is fun I guess.

Obama stopped torture of prisoners.

He started the coups? That's tin foil unsubstantiated nonsense. France was much more involved in Libya we know because they started the bombing. We know that the Arab league is literally building an army for the FSA.

The rest is domestic policy. I thought we were talking about foreign policy.

[ElNono]

well...it's already reining in the annual rising costs of heath-care, which was inflationary to all families...its a flawed law because it caters to the benefit of the health-care industry which co-opted the law and quickly stomped out any chance of single-payer ...still, my health-care cost is pretty much the same as last year, but my insurance company can not longer dump me if I get sick or bail on me after some predetermined spending limit..

reining in what costs? There's no price caps for providers, and there won't be because the law does not address that. The law only control reimbursement rates for Medicare/Medicaid providers. And that's not including drug prices, another area where it was decided not even Medicare can negotiate better prices. The law is a slamdunk to the insurance industry and the health-care industry as a whole, and a big fuck you to consumers.

Which is why you shouldn't be so quick to celebrate the "they can't kick me out"... since there's no price controls, the extra cost of insuring those people will get passed directly to the rest of the pool (ie: you)

IMO, the best that can happen is the young not enrolling, and the system being fucked. Then we can go ahead and change this turd into something else. Hopefully they don't wait to do that until the GOP controls both the executive and Congress.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

IMO, the best that can happen is the young not enrolling, and the system being fucked. Then we can go ahead and change this turd into something else. Hopefully they don't wait to do that until the GOP controls both the executive and Congress.

:toast

[Jacob1983]

It's pointless to have a debate on this. Obama lovers are blindly obedient to their master. I was a koolaid drinker of the Bush administration but I woke the fuck up and saw them for what they really were. Why can't Obama lovers do the same? If I can be enlightened, why can't they? Is it because he is biracial?

[DJ Mbenga]

regular people are over this shit. you either got something or dont. they've moved on. people love elections, they are eager to have that start next year.

[Jacob1983]

Yep that's true. Obama already got Bush's 4th term so he can do whatever he wants.

[ChumpDumper]

It's pointless to have a debate on this. Obama lovers are blindly obedient to their master. I was a koolaid drinker of the Bush administration but I woke the fuck up and saw them for what they really were. Why can't Obama lovers do the same? If I can be enlightened, why can't they? Is it because he is biracial?How are we supposed to be "enlightened" RE: Benghazi?

[Jacob1983]

You are supposed to be enlightened on seeing how Obama is just as corrupt and sneaky as Bush. Candidate Obama preached to us how he was going to do the damage done on civil liberties by Bush. He has done nothing to undo the damage by Dubya. He's created more damage by enhancing the clear violation of civil liberties that started under Bush. He is Bush on steroids on civil liberties and foreign policy. Take your mouth off his dick and wake the fuck up, sheep.

[lefty]

Jacob with the froof bombs

[Trainwreck2100]

reining in what costs? There's no price caps for providers, and there won't be because the law does not address that. The law only control reimbursement rates for Medicare/Medicaid providers. And that's not including drug prices, another area where it was decided not even Medicare can negotiate better prices. The law is a slamdunk to the insurance industry and the health-care industry as a whole, and a big fuck you to consumers.

Which is why you shouldn't be so quick to celebrate the "they can't kick me out"... since there's no price controls, the extra cost of insuring those people will get passed directly to the rest of the pool (ie: you)

IMO, the best that can happen is the young not enrolling, and the system being fucked. Then we can go ahead and change this turd into something else. Hopefully they don't wait to do that until the GOP controls both the executive and Congress.

and then all we'll hear about is :lol tort reform :lol. As for not enrolling nobody anywhere near the poverty line in Texas is getting that shit cause we can't fucking afford it.

[boutons_deux]

You are supposed to be enlightened on seeing how Obama is just as corrupt and sneaky as Bush. Candidate Obama preached to us how he was going to do the damage done on civil liberties by Bush. He has done nothing to undo the damage by Dubya. He's created more damage by enhancing the clear violation of civil liberties that started under Bush. He is Bush on steroids on civil liberties and foreign policy. Take your mouth off his dick and wake the fuck up, sheep.

sure, he lied about that. but dubya, McLiar, or Bishop Gecko wouldn't have lied about it. They would have permitted, even pushed the FBI/NSA/CIA to rape the 4th even more viciously, as well as pushing military attacks on Iran and Syria.

[Jacob1983]

Please don't justify Obama sucking ass by saying that Willard would have been worse. Just open your eyes. The Republicans and Democrats are whores of greed, power, control, and fame. They are both pieces of shit beings.

[lefty]

Please don't justify Obama sucking ass by saying that Willard would have been worse. Just open your eyes. The Republicans and Democrats are whores of greed, power, control, and fame. They are both pieces of shit beings.
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[boutons_deux]

Please don't justify Obama sucking ass by saying that Willard would have been worse. Just open your eyes. The Republicans and Democrats are whores of greed, power, control, and fame. They are both pieces of shit beings.

so your false equivalence agrees with my "America is fucked and unfuckable", right?

[Nbadan]

See, that's where the Obama critics have no answers...who would have been better McCain? hell, we'd be in Iran and Syria right now...you think Hillary would have been any better with the NSA and domestic spying? Really? You think Romney could have nationalized Romney-care with the GOP controlling both houses and the WH? really?

[ChumpDumper]

You are supposed to be enlightened on seeing how Obama is just as corrupt and sneaky as Bush. Candidate Obama preached to us how he was going to do the damage done on civil liberties by Bush. He has done nothing to undo the damage by Dubya. He's created more damage by enhancing the clear violation of civil liberties that started under Bush. He is Bush on steroids on civil liberties and foreign policy. Take your mouth off his dick and wake the fuck up, sheep.So nothing about Benghazi then? You know, the thing I specifically asked about?

[Jacob1983]

No shitdumper, nothing. I am not going to answer you. Move on.

[ChumpDumper]

No shitdumper, nothing. I am not going to answer you. Move on.Well, the topic of the thread is Benghazi. Since you don't know anything about Benghazi and have nothing to say about Benghazi, why are you ranting in a thread about Benghazi when asked direct questions about Benghazi?

[Jacob1983]

I actually know a few things about the situation in Benghazi but I don't want to answer you because you are an egotistical bully and know it all. Accept defeat and move on.

[boutons_deux]

"I actually know a few things about the situation in Benghazi"

different from and/or more than the NYTimes reporters who visited Benghazi, more than the Senate report?

If yes, I suggest you contact Fox News and National Review, they are still riding high on the Benghazi dead horse.

[ChumpDumper]

I actually know a few things about the situation in Benghazi but I don't want to answer you because you are an egotistical bully and know it all. Accept defeat and move on.If that's the way you want to see it, your forfeit is my victory.

[Jacob1983]

How old are you, dumper?

[ChumpDumper]

How old are you, dumper?Now you want answers from me?

lol

[Jacob1983]

I want answers. I want the truth and I can handle the truth. I asked you how old you are cause you were acting like an immature know it all pecker.

[ChumpDumper]

I want answers. I want the truth and I can handle the truth. I asked you how old you are cause you were acting like an immature know it all pecker.Yet you are afraid to talk about the topic of the thread.

You're an idiot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I actually know a few things about the situation in Benghazi but I don't want to answer you because you are an egotistical bully and know it all. Accept defeat and move on.

:cry

[resistanze]

:cry

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/empty-prescription-bottle-time-to-refill-18809763.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fox is talking about it. What I wonder is why there is no more outrage about the AQ dicks who killed our guys and attempts to find them.

[Nbadan]

Budowsky: The GOP Benghazi disease
By Brent Budowsky - 01/22/14 05:30 PM EST


The Republican Party is widely viewed by voters as offering little except a fanatic personal and partisan antipathy toward President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as obsessive compulsions about Benghazi and ObamaCare, without any credible message about how life for Americans might improve if more Republicans are elected.

Republicans in Congress suffer from all-time low approval ratings, ranging between 7 percent and 13 percent. The Tea Party suffers from all-time low approval ratings that range between the teens and low 20s. The GOP brand suffers from a decade of brand destruction that has led to Democratic victories in national elections in 2006, 2008 and 2012. And now Republicans have begun an intense intraparty civil war that pits unpopular Washington Republican insiders against the unpopular Tea Party, which implodes the coalition of the only recent national election won by Republicans, in 2010.

According to polls, the only national Republican who does not lose by landslide margins to Hillary Clinton in 2016 match-ups, until recently, is New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who is now embroiled in multiple scandals. Christie appears poised to join the list of GOP 2016 landslide losers, while a growing list of congressional retirements puts more House and Senate seats in play for both parties in 2014.

Last week I warned Democrats about the dangers they face in 2014. What political analysts and media underestimate today, as the Christie scandals unfold, are the equally grave dangers facing the GOP.



Read more: http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/196117-brent-budowsky-the-gop-benghazi-disease#ixzz2rEYJHGA5

[boutons_deux]

"how life for Americans might improve if more Republicans are elected."

:lol

Life would definitely improve for the wealthy and corporations, but red-state assholes keep being duped by the Repug abortion/"Christian"/Bible-thumping bullshit charade.

[Nbadan]

House GOP Pursues Benghazi 'Stand Down' Probe
Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

DONNA CASSATA – MARCH 28, 2014, 3:57 PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — A House Republican chairman is doggedly pursuing the question of whether military personnel were told to "stand down" during the 2012 deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, despite the insistence of military leaders and other Republicans that it never happened.

Rep. Darrell Issa's Oversight and Government Reform Committee is pressing officials in a series of closed-door meetings about the instructions from military commanders in the chaotic hours after the first attack and whether they were told not to assist Americans under siege.

Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress last June that personnel in Tripoli were never told to "stand down" and top Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee reported in February that no such order was given.

The panel's persistence on an issue the military considers settled underscore that Republicans have no plans to relent in their politically charged investigation of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans on President Barack Obama's watch.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/house-gop-pursues-benghazi-probe

the right wing meme was that military people could have helped and the President told them to stand down. Basically, that the Prez and/or Clinton killed four people. I've read the story about how the rumor got started and it was a bullshit claim made by a punk contractor who thought he knew everything. He was in a land rover type vehicle with others and their initial plan was to go down to the diplomatic outpost to provide support for Ambassador Stevens. His commander told the guys to stand down, or wait, and didn't tell them why. Those with a military background know the commander doesn't have to tell you why. It turned out the commander had intel the Ambassador and the employees had already left, that they had been taken to the hospital, so a trip down to the diplomatic outpost would have been nothing more than an ambush.

The rumor morphed into a story about how all the military units nearby could have helped but were told to "stand down" that again was a lie. Media Matters said that as of January Fox news had told the stand down lie 85 times even though it had been proved false. I can't imagine how many times they've repeated it by now.

[boutons_deux]

"House GOP Pursues Benghazi 'Stand Down' Probe"

... wonderful example of Repug governance.

Issa, etc are simply following the example of the Dems investigating ad nauseam ALL THE US DIPLOMATS KILLED on dubya's watch.

Thanks, you Repug voters!

[boutons_deux]

Leading Conservative Has Sobering News For The GOP On Benghazi: ‘This Thing Is Done’ (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/04/10/3425148/krauthammer-benghazi/)
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/krauthammer--638x334.jpghttp://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/krauthammer--638x334.jpg

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/04/10/3425148/krauthammer-benghazi/

:lol

of course, Issa and his fellow witch hunters and slimers will keep on hunting, esp now the HRC has said she's "thinking about running".