Thinking about a C4 Corvette...

[benefactor]

Probably a '94 or '95. I've been weighing out options for a weekend sports car that I can get into for reasonably cheap and they seem to fit the criteria. I've always liked that body style and from what I've read they are pretty reliable. Plus from other people I've talked to it seems most of them that are used are usually garaged and pretty well cared for, as a lot of them are owned by old guys who drive them to Whataburger on the weekends.

Anyone here ever own one? Thoughts or reservations?

[Koolaid_Man]

Probably a '94 or '95. I've been weighing out options for a weekend sports car that I can get into for reasonably cheap and they seem to fit the criteria. I've always liked that body style and from what I've read they are pretty reliable. Plus from other people I've talked to it seems most of them that are used are usually garaged and pretty well cared for, as a lot of them are owned by old guys who drive them to Whataburger on the weekends.

Anyone here ever own one? Thoughts or reservations?

:lol ^ guess we know where you'll be on the weekends

[CosmicCowboy]

Seriously, if you want to go with that vintage the Mitsubishi 3000GT was a better sports car. The Vettes still had crazy bad oversteer. I took one out when it was new in the rain and TRIED to make it lose it. Damn thing cornered like a cat. I was hitting 90 degree corners downhill at 60 in the rain and never losing the back end where a Vette would be spun out through the fence. Talking about the all wheel drive 3000GT's of course.

[benefactor]

I had buddies that said their 3000's weren't very well build and fell apart on them.

[Wild Cobra]

Yep.

Hard to beat a 3000GT. Still, I would buy a Vette over a 3000 GT.

If it isn't a '69 or '70 Stingray, I would go with one newer, with the new aluminum block LS1 or better. They started putting these in them I think '97.

Simply personal preference.

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[CosmicCowboy]

Hmmm. Maybe so. Don't see a lot on the road anymore but don't see a lot of C4's either. I'm not anti Vette at all. Bought one when I was 24 and ran the shit out of it and sold it when I got married. Gotta really be careful with the oversteer if you buy one. You gotta go into the corner knowing the back end is gonna break and then power though the counter steer. Lose your nerve and you are gonna be in the ditch.

[benefactor]

Yeah...I'm not going to run it that hard. Just something to run up and down the highways on the weekend in when the weather is nice.

[benefactor]

I looked at a few C5's, but a friend of mine had one and he said he had a bunch pretty expensive electrical problems with it that left him with repeated trips to the dealership. I can get into a C4 with modest mileage for well under 15k if I do a little legwork.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I looked at a few C5's, but a friend of mine had one and he said he had a bunch pretty expensive electrical problems with it that left him with repeated trips to the dealership. I can get into a C4 with modest mileage for well under 15k if I do a little legwork.

should invest in a horse, and learn how to smile like chuck with a roundhouse kick, u wanted under 15k and legwork

[SnakeBoy]

I just sold my C5. Fun car, no problems, too much road noise would be my only complaint.

Oh and a lot of wobble at around 165.

[cute_spursfan]

Do it!!!!

[SnakeBoy]

http://www.usedcorvettesforsale.com/corvettes-for-sale-4.html

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Don't go for a c5. My grandfather had two and they were both a bitch in the long run... but if you aren't driving it much... then fuck it

[lil'mo]

Is it true having a small penis makes you want to buy fast or big cars?

Gotta compensate somehow I guess :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Is it true having a small penis makes you want to buy fast or big cars?

Gotta compensate somehow I guess :lol

No.

It's those with small penises that have to find cause to accept their small size, and make fun of others.

[DMC]

I had buddies that said their 3000's weren't very well build and fell apart on them.

I had a 3000GT and your buddy is right.

[FkLA]

SS or Trans Am are solid options as well tbh. BTW I've heard bad things about the 3000GT as well.

[benefactor]

Get the body style after that. Make sure it has an LS1 LS2 or LS3
LS1 is your best bang for your buck. Don't mess around with an LT engine unless it's a LT 4
But C4s are generally junk.
I kicked around the idea of a GTO too because it has the LS engine, but I've heard those have some build quality issues too. I have heard that the LT engines can occasionally have some head gasket problems but overall they are fairly solid. The LT4 is the ZR-1 engine, right?

[benefactor]

SS or Trans Am are solid options as well tbh. BTW I've heard bad things about the 3000GT as well.
My wife's coworker's husband had a 2001 SLP Firehawk that I really wanted but just didn't have the cash at the time. He only wanted like 13k for it and it only had 55k miles on it.

I might look into a Camaro or a T/A. Just depends on what's available at the time. It's going to be a little bit before I actually buy I'm just doing some homework right now.

[Wild Cobra]

I kicked around the idea of a GTO too because it has the LS engine, but I've heard those have some build quality issues too. I have heard that the LT engines can occasionally have some head gasket problems but overall they are fairly solid. The LT4 is the ZR-1 engine, right?
If you mean the newer GTO's, the new LS series engine is an entire remake. Nothing in common with the traditional small block except the bore spacing, center to center. The GTO is based on the Holden Monaro, and I think its built in Australia as well.

[lil'mo]

No.

It's those with small penises that have to find cause to accept their small size, and make fun of others.

:lol you just confirmed the theory. Penis compensation can be expensive lol

[Wild Cobra]

My wife's coworker's husband had a 2001 SLP Firehawk that I really wanted but just didn't have the cash at the time. He only wanted like 13k for it and it only had 55k miles on it.

I might look into a Camaro or a T/A. Just depends on what's available at the time. It's going to be a little bit before I actually buy I'm just doing some homework right now.
A Firehawk would be cool, but I snagged a 2002 WS6 when I found one available.

Great ride!

[benefactor]

If you mean the newer GTO's, the new LS series engine is an entire remake. Nothing in common with the traditional small block except the bore spacing, center to center. The GTO is based on the Holden Monaro, and I think its built in Australia as well.
Yep...the one they made up to 2006. I thought the G8 was the Holden collaboration? The GTO was as well?

[SnakeBoy]

Is it true having a small penis makes you want to buy fast or big cars?

Gotta compensate somehow I guess :lol

Is it true that being so broke you have to share an apartment with family members causes you to spend your time on the internet talking about dick?

[benefactor]

And :lol thispego's obsession with people who drive sports cars. Some people actually buy them for what they are for and not to overcompensate. I still have my Maxima for the daily driver.

[DJR210]

Don't go for a c5. My grandfather had two and they were both a bitch in the long run... but if you aren't driving it much... then fuck it

Let me guess..you prefer Jaguars?

[DJR210]

:lol you just confirmed the theory. Penis compensation can be expensive lol

:lol worried about other mens penises.

[Wild Cobra]

Yep...the one they made up to 2006. I thought the G8 was the Holden collaboration? The GTO was as well?
Yes, but as you may or may not know... GM owns Holden. They've been using the 5.6 liter LS1 and newer versions since '97 as well.

[lil'mo]

Is it true that being so broke you have to share an apartment with family members causes you to spend your time on the internet talking about dick?

Not even close, and you've just admitted to having an underwhelmingly small weiner :lol

[lil'mo]

And :lol thispego's obsession with people who drive sports cars. Some people actually buy them for what they are for and not to overcompensate. I still have my Maxima for the daily driver.

What's that? A waste of money. I guess I just don't have a need for speed (or to compensate for anything :lol)

[lil'mo]

:lol worried about other mens penises.

Another minuscule penis chirping his disapproval of small penis slander :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I had buddies that said their 3000's weren't very well build and fell apart on them.

Mitsubishi from the 90's are indeed unreliable shit buckets from my experience.

[DJR210]

Another minuscule penis chirping his disapproval of small penis slander :lmao

Flip it however you want, you hijacked a car thread to discuss the size of dudes dicks. :lol

[Biernutz]

This is where you should do a little research on the vette you are looking at. It could save you
a lot of heartburn and a bunch of $$. Fiberglass body's can be a pain in the butt.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/

[bigzak25]

good luck, post a pic when you get it.

[CavsSuperFan]

benefactor- You probably know this already…Vetts are like Harleys…Lots of guys in their 40’s get them instead of a Blonde…Then they discover that they are not very comfortable, they rattle and are difficult for older guys to get out of…Don’t limit your search to your local area…Dallas, LA & Orange County always have great deals on used Corvette’s…

[BacktoBasics]

Well as a Corvette enthusiast and former owner I would advise against the C4. Pretty much the worst generation of the bunch. Not only that but the cost of repair is considerably more than the C3 generation.

At least with the C5 when you over pay for repairs and work you'll get your monies worth out of the car.

If you want an older Vette and want to keep it simple I highly advise the C3's. Parts are plentiful, affordable and the engines are all pre-fuel injection so almost any small block 350 part is applicable depending on what you need.

You can outfit a C3 with a new suspension sans brakes for under 4k if not in most cases under 3k.

I would look for a nice C3 that is partially restored. Something sound but needs interior or paint. Spend 12 and drop 5 on it and you got a nice eye turner for under 20k.

[CosmicCowboy]

If you find a L82 C3 with a custom pearl white base paint with green and gold racing stripes don't buy that one. I ragged the shit out of it when it was new.

[Spanklin]

Probably a '94 or '95. I've been weighing out options for a weekend sports car that I can get into for reasonably cheap and they seem to fit the criteria. I've always liked that body style and from what I've read they are pretty reliable. Plus from other people I've talked to it seems most of them that are used are usually garaged and pretty well cared for, as a lot of them are owned by old guys who drive them to Whataburger on the weekends.

Anyone here ever own one? Thoughts or reservations?

You could beef that car up to the nuts and it'd still be a slug compared to new family cars like Infinity G37, and won't handle anywhere near as well.

If you want cheap then grab a quality ricer and turbo it.

[monosylab1k]

What's that? A waste of money. I guess I just don't have a need for speed (or to compensate for anything :lol)

True, anytime you feel inadequate you can brag about your condo in Breck that isn't actually yours.

[Spanklin]

BTW, that's coming from someone who built and put 50,000 on a 600 rwhp modular mustang. They're slugs that cost a shit ton to put together.

[benefactor]

You could beef that car up to the nuts and it'd still be a slug compared to new family cars like Infinity G37, and won't handle anywhere near as well.

If you want cheap then grab a quality ricer and turbo it.
My Maxima can actually run door to door with it, but the car I'm going to get is not for all out speed anyway.

I don't really care for weed wacking 4 bangers. I'm more of a V8 guy...and as I said, the car is more for having something that both looks nice and has decent power to cruise around in on the weekends. If I don't go the Vette route I might do a Camaro/Mustang/Trans-Am in the late 90's/early 00's range.

[CosmicCowboy]

My Maxima can actually run door to door with it, but the car I'm going to get is not for all out speed anyway.

I don't really care for weed wacking 4 bangers. I'm more of a V8 guy...and as I said, the car is more for having something that both looks nice and has decent power to cruise around in on the weekends. If I don't go the Vette route I might do a Camaro/Mustang/Trans-Am in the late 90's/early 00's range.

Can't go wrong with the camaro either and you will be able to get one significantly cheaper than a vette. Bought my wife a '96 Z-28 T-top as a play car when she wasn't hauling kids and it was nice and smooth unlike the vettes. Didn't even vibrate at 140. You could literally take your hands off the wheel.

[benefactor]

Yeah...I've been looking around on Autotrader and there are several '02 Camaro SS's that have decent mileage that can be had for 15k or so. Might wind up going that way instead.

[Big Empty]

I dont drive cars, but if i did it would be the old school 1977 trans am

[KarmaKarma]

Is it true having a small penis makes you want to buy fast or big cars?

Gotta compensate somehow I guess :lol


small penis . i've seen and heard. :clap

[KarmaKarma]

:lol worried about other mens penises.


hahaha. i like penis talk between Men. brings me much entertainment on my day off. :toast

[DJR210]

hahaha. i like penis talk between Men. brings me much entertainment on my day off. :toast

Even better, pm Koolaid_Man, you two can debate which men you find sexually attractive.

[benefactor]

I dont drive cars, but if i did it would be the old school 1977 trans am
My uncle is a huge T/A head. Has had more of them than I can list off the top of my head. His current one is a black 1979 W72 Special Edition. Only like a thousand or so of them were made. The one I remember the most was his '73 455SD. That damn thing could just go through the gears blowing off tires.

[Big Empty]

My uncle is a huge T/A head. Has had more of them than I can list off the top of my head. His current one is a black 1979 W72 Special Edition. Only like a thousand or so of them were made. The one I remember the most was his '73 455SD. That damn thing could just go through the gears blowing off tires.

damn thats sweet. ive always loved that car

[SnakeBoy]

I don't really care for weed wacking 4 bangers. I'm more of a V8 guy...and as I said, the car is more for having something that both looks nice and has decent power to cruise around in on the weekends. If I don't go the Vette route I might do a Camaro/Mustang/Trans-Am in the late 90's/early 00's range.

Well I replaced my C5 with a new Camaro I got to say I like the Camaro a lot more. More practical, a much much more comfortable ride, and still enough pep to have a little fun...although I kind of regret not getting the SS.

[KarmaKarma]

Even better, pm Koolaid_Man, you two can debate which men you find sexually attractive.


hmm. :corn:

[lil'mo]

True, anytime you feel inadequate you can brag about your condo in Breck that isn't actually yours.

Jealous! :lol

When have I ever bragged about it? I'm in your head bro :lmao

[monosylab1k]

When have I ever bragged about it?

:lmao

[AaronY]

Excellent debate

[CuckingFunt]

Even better, pm Koolaid_Man, you two can debate which men you find sexually attractive.

He gets real bitchy if you bring up Stringer Bell, though. Be warned.

[CosmicCowboy]

He gets real bitchy if you bring up Stringer Bell, though. Be warned.

:lmao

[lil'mo]

:lmao

Yep. In your jealous head :lol

[The Reckoning]

i never got no invite to no condo. i thought we were cool, mo?

[Wild Cobra]

I dont drive cars, but if i did it would be the old school 1977 trans am

I loved my 1977...

[Spanklin]

My Maxima can actually run door to door with it, but the car I'm going to get is not for all out speed anyway.

I don't really care for weed wacking 4 bangers. I'm more of a V8 guy...and as I said, the car is more for having something that both looks nice and has decent power to cruise around in on the weekends. If I don't go the Vette route I might do a Camaro/Mustang/Trans-Am in the late 90's/early 00's range.

All I gotta say is if ya go the other route then choose wisely. Ford sipped Koolaid sangria's in the early 90's. Chevo wasn't much better, but you got dat nine fo' LT. 90' LT took shits on Ford.

[spurraider21]

ugh, c4 is the worst of the vette's imo

[lil'mo]

i never got no invite to no condo. i thought we were cool, mo?

You been too busy trailblazing in Australia and Europe you d-bag , thanks for that invite by tha way :smchode::smchode:

[benefactor]

I know most people don't care for the design, but I guess they are my favorite design because there's some nostalgia involved. They were the model during my teenage years and I always saw them as a bit of a dream car.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqYggG9tk5s

We will see. I've read what some other Vette people they have said if I was going to go for one then go for either the '95 or '96 as both of those had most of the kinks ironed out from previous years.

[benefactor]

That info came from my friend that is a Corvette freak. He has a 2011 carbon edition. I knew he would have a solid take for ya. I sent him your reply but nothing back yet. Just trying to help out bro.
Thanks. I did a little checking around and the LT4 came in the '96.

I'm thinking it will be between that and a '01-'02 Camaro SS. After I get a chance to drive both I will make a decision.

[benefactor]

Have a guy I know that has a 2000 WS6 Trans Am for sale. Went and looked at it today. Great looking car and fast as hell. He wants too much for his, but this will be the target vehicle(LS1 years...98-02) when I find one at the right price.

[spurraider21]

Have a guy I know that has a 2000 WS6 Trans Am for sale. Went and looked at it today. Great looking car and fast as hell. He wants too much for his, but this will be the target vehicle(LS1 years...98-02) when I find one at the right price.
my old man had a 2001 Trans Am in pewter. that that thing was nice. t-top is sorta gimmicky but cool

[Wild Cobra]

Have a guy I know that has a 2000 WS6 Trans Am for sale. Went and looked at it today. Great looking car and fast as hell. He wants too much for his, but this will be the target vehicle(LS1 years...98-02) when I find one at the right price.
Good luck paying less that $10k for one in average shape. There are less of them around than than buyers, so unless you're lucky, the price will be steep.

I love my '02 WS6.

No...

It's not for sale, unless you want to give me $20k.

[Wild Cobra]

my old man had a 2001 Trans Am in pewter. that that thing was nice. t-top is sorta gimmicky but cool
I don't consider the T-Top gimmicky. You can open it up and fly down the round, and it's not all windy like a convertible.

[spurraider21]

I don't consider the T-Top gimmicky. You can open it up and fly down the round, and it's not all windy like a convertible.
its sort of a hassle to get them on and off, at least moreso than a convertible top.

[benefactor]

Good lock paying less that $10k for one in average shape. There are less of them around than than buyers, so unless you're lucky, the price will be steep.

I love my '02 WS6.

No...

It's not for sale, unless you want to give me $20k.
Yeah...I'm not under the illusion that I'll find a decent one at that price. Will probably look to spend around 12-13. I'm betting if I can find a good one listed for around 15 I'll be able to talk them down if I show up with a check in hand.

[Wild Cobra]

Thanks. I did a little checking around and the LT4 came in the '96.

I'm thinking it will be between that and a '01-'02 Camaro SS. After I get a chance to drive both I will make a decision.
The 97+ Corvette and 98+ F-body V-8's are superior to the previous V8 GM uses.

[benefactor]

my old man had a 2001 Trans Am in pewter. that that thing was nice. t-top is sorta gimmicky but cool
I've actually always liked the T-tops. They kind of define those vehicles.

[Wild Cobra]

its sort of a hassle to get them on and off, at least moreso than a convertible top.
Maybe the older ones, but the fourth generation are a piece of cake. Only takes a minute for both.

[benefactor]

The 97+ Corvette and 98+ F-body V-8's are superior to the previous V8 GM uses.
Yep. I'll go LS1 without a doubt. They are easy to get power out of as well for not a lot of money according to the research I've done. Bolt ons alone can get you close to 400hp without changing the rear end or breaking the bank.

[FkLA]

T-tops are badass tbh.

[Wild Cobra]

Yep. I'll go LS1 without a doubt. They are easy to get power out of as well for not a lot of money according to the research I've done. Bolt ons alone can get you close to 400hp without changing the rear end or breaking the bank.

What do you mean? my understanding is just reprogram the chip for over 400 HP, though it will not be emission compliant. Mine has 340HP stock. My previous 2000 Z28 had 305 stock.

I've seen articles of people getting 1200HP out of these engines with dual turbos.

[benefactor]

A cam swap, heads, pulleys, rods and a set of long tube headers can all be ordered online and done in your driveway if you are handy with a wrench...and will only set you back around 3k. I've seen cars online that only had that done and were pushing 400.

[Wild Cobra]

A cam swap, heads, pulleys, rods and a set of long tube headers can all be ordered online and done in your driveway if you are handy with a wrench...and will only set you back around 3k. I've seen cars online that only had that done and were pushing 400.
You can skip the cam I bet, go with the true duel exhaust and headers, and reprogram the computer and pull over 450 I bet.

It sounds like you are talking about the previous 350, rather than the 346.

[Wild Cobra]

FYI, the classic small block has a 4" bore and 3.48" stroke for 350 CI. It uses a 5.7" rod. The Newer aluminum block has a 99mm (3.9") bore and 92mm (3.6") stroke for 346 CI and uses a 6.2" rod. The intake design and fuel injection point alone make for some serious power with almost no help but removing the emission constraints.

[benefactor]

You can skip the cam I bet, go with the true duel exhaust and headers, and reprogram the computer and pull over 450 I bet.

It sounds like you are talking about the previous 350, rather than the 346.
Perhaps...either way, those LS1's are easy to get extra HP out of without resorting to forced induction.

[Wild Cobra]

Perhaps...either way, those LS1's are easy to get extra HP out of without resorting to forced induction.
Absolutely.

[benefactor]

So I've put the Trans Am on hold for now...because I just couldn't wait to get back in a muscle car. Traded in the Maxima for a '13 Challenger R/T. V8...six speed...custom striping...20 inch Ridler wheels with staggered tires. I love it. It actually rides really nice for a sports car. Thought the suspension would be stiffer. Starting that engine is always the best part of my day.

http://i.imgur.com/WmW7S0Q.jpg

[DJR210]

"Does this ah car have poosy magnet?"

Nice ride.

[sonnytris]

They quit making real corvettes in 1967 after that they were copies of the real "wrap your ass in fiberglass crowd"

[benefactor]

"Does this ah car have poosy magnet?"

Nice ride.
My favorites are the minivan dads....they look at me like "what the fuck am I doing with my life?"