Dan Graziano

[monosylab1k]

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10322500

[J.T.]

But the point is that the Super Bowl isn't the be-all, end-all of legacy definition. If he loses this game, that won't lessen anything about Manning.

Actually, yes it will. It will lessen his Super Bowl win percentage from .500 to .333.

However, if he wins the Super Bowl, it goes up to .666.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb85dtWQUR1qzdpizo1_500.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

But the point is that the Super Bowl isn't the be-all, end-all of legacy definition. If he loses this game, that won't lessen anything about Manning.
:lol Please.... if he doesn't ring with THIS team, his "legacy" is officially flushed down the toilet, tbh....

[monosylab1k]

:lol Please.... if he doesn't ring with THIS team, his "legacy" is officially flushed down the toilet, tbh....

:cry why can't you just ignore valid criticisms of Peyton Manning and just learn to appreciate the way his genius transcends football :cry

[monosylab1k]

Also, :lol at the gestapo changing the thread title.

[J.T.]

Also, :lol at the gestapo changing the thread title.

:lmao

[blah blah blah]

Kind of a dumb article. Most logical football fans appreciate what Peyton has brought to the sport anyway. But every now and then, when people bring up legacy talks, Super Bowl victories have to factor into the equation. It's basically how you perform when the pressure is at its greatest.

If somebody goes into a job interview and completely shits his pants and is unprepared for the questions that are asked, he's not going to be looked at as the best candidate despite his qualifications.

[Raven]

:lol Please.... if he doesn't ring with THIS team, his "legacy" is officially flushed down the toilet, tbh....

i agree, only i don't agree there is much of a "legacy" anyway.. what he was is pretty clear tbh

[monosylab1k]

Peyton and Brady are both top 5 QB's. There's really no debating that unless you have a clearly unfair bias against one or the other. At that point there's so little separating the two. Nothing can be said to concretely put one ahead of the other. Unless one of them goes off and rings 3 more times, thats how it's going to be. Only a moron would try to definitively label Manning ahead of Brady or Brady ahead of Manning.

I've grown to really respect Peyton tbh, but just like with Kobefan, his nuthuggers are so insufferably obnoxious that I'm actually going to root for the faggot Seahawks just to see a nation of emo Peyton slurpers.

[DAF86]

Peyton and Brady are both top 5 QB's. There's really no debating that unless you have a clearly unfair bias against one or the other. At that point there's so little separating the two. Nothing can be said to concretely put one ahead of the other. Unless one of them goes off and rings 3 more times, thats how it's going to be. Only a moron would try to definitively label Manning ahead of Brady or Brady ahead of Manning.

I've grown to really respect Peyton tbh, but just like with Kobefan, his nuthuggers are so insufferably obnoxious that I'm actually going to root for the faggot Seahawks just to see a nation of emo Peyton slurpers.

lol trying to imply the reason you want Manning to lose isn't the Manning/Brady rivalry

[monosylab1k]

lol trying to imply the reason you want Manning to lose isn't the Manning/Brady rivalry

I could care less about that anymore. That argument is the most boring and pointless argument in sports. We might as well debate Emmitt vs Barry if we want a stupid pointless debate.

[FYM]

Also, :lol at the gestapo changing the thread title.

what was the original one ?

[DAF86]

I could care less about that anymore. That argument is the most boring and pointless argument in sports. We might as well debate Emmitt vs Barry if we want a stupid pointless debate.

Anymore? You mean you used to care? Back when Brady had the record for TDs and a bigger Head to head margin?

I don't find boring arguing about who is better between the 2 best QB's of our generation and the argument is as pointless as any other sports debate, tbh.

[johnsmith]

I could care less about that anymore. That argument is the most boring and pointless argument in sports. We might as well debate Emmitt vs Barry if we want a stupid pointless debate.

Poor analogy...Barry was way better.

[johnsmith]

As a lifelong Broncos fan I bet I speak for most longtime fans when I say that Mannings legacy doesn't mean a whole lot to us. He's only been with us for two seasons....I'm far more concerned with the Broncos winning their third SB then I am with how the general public views Mannings place in history.

[johnsmith]

Also, :lol at the gestapo changing the thread title.

I like how this site is basically a hotbed for racial jokes but that thread title was pushing it too far.

[monosylab1k]

Anymore? You mean you used to care? Back when Brady had the record for TDs and a bigger Head to head margin?

I don't find boring arguing about who is better between the 2 best QB's of our generation and the argument is as pointless as any other sports debate, tbh.

Brady's still WAY ahead in head to head so that doesn't concern me. The TD record was bound to be broken in this passing era, i wouldn't be shocked if someone breaks Peyton's in the next few years. The Brady/Manning debate is stupid and pointless because both sides are entrenched in their beliefs and can't be convinced otherwise. You might as well be debating a brick wall.

[monosylab1k]

Poor analogy...Barry was way better.

Barry was more spectacular, not necessarily better.

[J.T.]

I've grown to really respect Peyton tbh, but just like with Kobefan, his nuthuggers are so insufferably obnoxious that I'm actually going to root for the faggot Seahawks just to see a nation of emo Peyton slurpers.

Funny, I've grown to really respect Brady recently as well. His early teams were elite defensively and didn't need him to step up much, but his some of his more recent teams wouldn't have made the playoffs without him, especially this year's team imo. He's basically become what Manning was to the Colts. The Pats aren't the team that Matt Cassell could get 11 wins on anymore. Remove Brady and they're drafting high in the first round. Props.

For those of you who just started posting in the NFL board, neither of us would have said this to the other as recently as the 2010 season.

[monosylab1k]

Funny, I've grown to really respect Brady recently as well. His early teams were elite defensively and didn't need him to step up much, but his some of his more recent teams wouldn't have made the playoffs without him, especially this year's team imo. He's basically become what Manning was to the Colts. The Pats aren't the team that Matt Cassell could get 11 wins on anymore. Remove Brady and they're drafting high in the first round. Props.

For those of you who just started posting in the NFL board, neither of us would have said this to the other as recently as the 2010 season.

:lol even a couple years ago i was one of those who thought Peyton wasn't on Brady's level. It took over a decade to finally admit that Peyton's just as good as Brady.

And the past 2 seasons aren't all that convinced me. Looking at Peyton's entire body of work, only a moron would say he isn't on Brady's level. And vice versa.

[J.T.]

:lol even a couple years ago i was one of those who thought Peyton wasn't on Brady's level. It took over a decade to finally admit that Peyton's just as good as Brady.

And the past 2 seasons aren't all that convinced me. Looking at Peyton's entire body of work, only a moron would say he isn't on Brady's level. And vice versa.

I liked you better when you were the Crabtree to my Sherman. One for the road:

:lmao Spygate
:lmao only won 3 rings because of an all-time D and the greatest kicker to ever inject steroids into his right leg
:lmao my bad Vinatieri didn't use PEDs that was Richard Seymour and Rodney Harrison
:lmao Uggs
:lmao Goat pics
:lmao 2010-2011 haircut
:lmao Welker on 3rd down in the Super Bowl
:lmao David Tryee
:lmao "We're only going to score 17 points? :lol :lol :lol"

[BUMP]

The Brady/Manning debate is stupid and pointless because both sides are entrenched in their beliefs and can't be convinced otherwise. You might as well be debating a brick wall.

regular posters in the NBA forum never grasped this concept. Pretty much why KG/Dirk comparisons went on for 25 pages

[monosylab1k]

regular posters in the NBA forum never grasped this concept. Pretty much why KG/Dirk comparisons went on for 25 pages

Not so sure about that, tbh.


Anymore? You mean you used to care? Back when Brady had the record for TDs and a bigger Head to head margin?

I don't find boring arguing about who is better between the 2 best QB's of our generation and the argument is as pointless as any other sports debate, tbh.

Nevermind, BUMP, point taken :lol

[DAF86]

Manning > Brady
KG > Dirk

These are the things we know. Manu > Dirk too

[DAF86]

BTW, the gayness is strong on this thread.

[dirk4mvp]

Manning doesn't want you on his gravy train after shamelessly fondling the scrotum of the emo spearchunking longhorn and Ron Mexico for so long tbqh

[spurraider21]

isn't this the manu>dirk guy? :lol

[DAF86]

isn't this the manu>dirk guy? :lol



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