The most overrated players of the past 5 years, tbh..

[HarlemHeat37]

Who are the 5 most overrated players of the past 5 years, based on expected potential, tbh?..

I always find it funny when I read NBA forums and observe so many fans begging to acquire these types of players that typically fail, tbh:lol..

1- Anthony "Magic" Randolph..the hype has died down a little, but from 2008 to 2011, every fan forum had a thread begging for their team to acquire Anthony Randolph, tbh:lol..

2- Tyreke Evans
3- Danilo Gallinari
4- Kenneth Faried
5- Jeff Green
6- Rodrigue Beaubois
7- Courtney Lee
8- Avery Bradley
9- Iman Shumpert
10- Greivis Vasquez

IMO..I probably forgot a bunch, tbh, any names to drop?..

Future players that fit this category IMO: Jimmy Butler, Evan Fournier, Greg Monroe, Harrison Barnes, Giannis Antekouposjsjsbsh, Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Tobias Harris, Morris twins, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter..

[Robz4000]

French Allah should be closer to the top imo. In fact switch him with Gallinari.

[Rogue]

Speaking of the fetish for Anthony Randolph, some no-name picklebreath isn't equal to "everyone" imho.

And I don't think Gallinari has been overrated to even the slightest extent, dude has fairly lived up to his potential and it's just injury that holds him back imho. No one expected him to be a superstar anyways. And the arbitrary hype around Roddy was pretty much just a joke cooked up by some mavs fans. Guy has potential but to call him French Allah is worth a ton of :lol

And how could you manage to miss out JJ Hickson, tbh? Dude was at one time tipped for HOF consideration tbh, "future hall of famer" :lol

[lefty]

Vasquez overrated?

Hes always been an average player

[HarlemHeat37]

Anthony Randolph was extremely hyped on every forum, Rogue:lol..

There were fans all over the Internet saying shit like "he's a cross between Lamar Odom and Magic Johnson":lol..

[apalisoc_9]

Iguoadala should be on that list. Every year, and even now to a lesser extent, is supposedly his break out year...I swear I've seen way too many poster claim he can be a legit #1 option a few years ago.

[Clipper Nation]

Kevin "Empty Stats" Love should be high on that list, tbh.... Roddy Beaubois should be higher, too, since Cuban actually said he wouldn't trade him for anything less than LeBron :lmao

[MeloHype]

Klay Thompson

[TDMVPDPOY]

JIMMY BUTLER?

if u going to ad him, u might as well ad kawhi, both fkn identical wanks

theres a clown u forgot to mention who has been in the mvp discussions for the 2-3 years cause the real candidates were injured or someshit, and they needed a scapegoat to promote...enrique

[TheyCallMePro]

Nice thread.

For me:

1) Dwight Howard (3 point shooters carried him to the Finals and he got all the credit. Poor offensive player. Overrated defensively. Complete knucklehead.)

2) James Harden (Bad shooter, selfish/isolation player, no defense, not a true PG)

3) Rajon Rondo (TERRIBLE shooter, arrogant, and a BAD teammate. There's a reason the Celtics can't trade this guy)

3) Kobe Bryant (Has regressed considerably, yet he's STILL a ballhog and mean to his teammates?)

4) Steve Nash (For the love of God just retire already. I swear he's lying on his back on the court 90% of the time he even dresses.)

5) Pau Gasol (He only shoots jump shots now. He doesn't seem to care about trying. Even Mike Dantoni called him out earlier this year.)

6) Chris Paul (Considered the best PG in the NBA...yet he has accomplished NOTHING. How many more times does Tony Parker or some other PG have to destroy him in the playoffs before the media admits this guy is overrated?)

7) Carmelo Anthony (Obvious pick, but he's such a ballhog that it's hard not to include him on this list. Oh, and he doesn't play any defense.)

8) Dirk Nowitzski (Those jump shots finally fell for him in the playoffs 3 years ago, but for the most part, he has seriously regressed. He's very close to being done.)

9) Zach Randolph (Undersized, and takes too many jump shots, he's definitely not a star, yet everyone thinks of him as one.)

10) Mike Conley (I like Mike Conley. But he's nowhere close to being in the elite PG discussion, yet every time I hear his name it comes up that he is. Which is utterly ridiculous.)

[Ghazi]

Mono thought Dirk for Anthony Randolph was a good deal for the Mavs

[Sean Cagney]

Nice thread.

For me:

1) Dwight Howard (3 point shooters carried him to the Finals and he got all the credit. Poor offensive player. Overrated defensively. Complete knucklehead.)

2) James Harden (Bad shooter, selfish/isolation player, no defense, not a true PG)

Harden is not a PG nor ever was considered one. I saw that glaring flaw in this as soon as I read it.

[D-Wade]

In no particular order:
1. Deng - A good role player but only made the all-star team b/c of the weak east

2. Tyson Chandler - Much like Perkins, gets by on past reputation alone. The Tyson Chandler of today is most to blame for the Knicks getting stomped in last year's playoffs.

3. Iman Shumpert - One of a couple of Knicks that is overrated on defense and mediocre on O. Sure, his stroke is better than Brewer and Tony Allen, but that's not saying much.

4. Ricky Rubio - Makes Rondo's stroke look pretty. Overrated IQ too.

5. Kevin Love - Great offensive player but not a leader and plays no defense. Same thing about IQ

6. Z-Bo - Love the guy but gets by on nostalgia alone. Glad he was able to turn it around but outside of that playoff run which included the Spurs, he hasn't been that good in a while. His attitude's way better but his play has gone down big time.

7. Lamarcus Aldridge - Yes, still. Sure, he's having a good year in his natural position but he's like C-Webb without the passing and vision gifts not to mention half the swagger. I got love for C-Webb, but both will come up short when it matters.

[Clipper Nation]

My list:

1. Kirby - his delusional slurpers think he's the 2nd best player of all time minimum, need I say more?
2. Harden - would be nothing without the foodstamps given to him by the refs, absolutely atrocious on defense
3. Carmelo - basically Kirby lite
4. Dwight - no offensive game to speak of, terrible teammate
5. Love - soft, blatantly pads his stats, not a good defender, locker room cancer, has never been to the playoffs
6. Enrique - upstairs Spurfan acts like he's the greatest PG ever when he's had to be bailed out by the likes of Speedy Claxton; frustrating heroball tendencies
7. Rubio - can't shoot a lick, extremely one-dimensional
8. Rondo - intentionally sabotages his team's offense, passing up wide open shots in order to blatantly pad his assists
9. Kyrie - selfish chucker, has never been to the playoffs, bad teammate
10. Curry - unfair shooter when he's on, but turnover-prone, and his decision-making still leaves much to be desired

[Clipper Nation]

6. Z-Bo - Love the guy but gets by on nostalgia alone. Glad he was able to turn it around but outside of that playoff run which included the Spurs, he hasn't been that good in a while. His attitude's way better but his play has gone down big time.
I gotta admit, I hated ZBo as a Clipper and loathed him during the height of our rivalry with Memphis, but I'm kind of sad to see him start to fall off, tbh....

[Venti Quattro]

Chris Paul

[Bynumite]

CPFlop tbh... every season media and fans label him the best point guard in the game and MVP candidate, yet he's never won a single 2nd round game in his 9 year NBA career :lol

[Landon Donofag]

Kawhi Leonard easily.

[Venti Quattro]

CPFlop tbh... every season media and fans label him the best point guard in the game and MVP candidate, yet he's never won a single 2nd round game in his 9 year NBA career :lol

Fans and pundits alike label him as one of the most heady and clutch point guards in the game today.

Heady and clutch point guards do not defer to :lmao :lmao Jannero fucking Pargo :lmao :lmao in a Game 7 of a playoff series.

[TheyCallMePro]

Harden is not a PG nor ever was considered one. I saw that glaring flaw in this as soon as I read it.

Doesn't change the fact that he's bringing the ball up the floor almost every possession. And it's hard to watch. You know he's going to jack up a 3 after a few pump fakes or he's going to drive and beg for a foul call. He doesn't facilitate at all.

[Sean Cagney]

Kawhi Leonard easily.
He is 22 years old and not gettin media hype like some out there! He is not touted as the next star in the league. I still remember Mavs fans with Roddy! They had him as the second coming! That doesn't make him though overrated as a standpoint from other fans and media etc. Kawhi is overhyped by some fans yes, but in everyday talk outside of here and non bias fans he is not overhyped.
Doesn't change the fact that he's bringing the ball up the floor almost every possession. And it's hard to watch. You know he's going to jack up a 3 after a few pump fakes or he's going to drive and beg for a foul call. He doesn't facilitate at all.

That is true, but dude is a baller regardless. He is very talented but does have flaws like alot do out there.

[ElNono]

Somebody please add OJ Mayo to these lists...

[spurraider21]

tyson chandler has to be on the list. he's a guy who at one point had been underrated for so long that he actually became overrated

[FkLA]

What's the story behind the Enrique nickname for Parker tbh ?

[TDMVPDPOY]

He is 22 years old and not gettin media hype like some out there! He is not touted as the next star in the league. I still remember Mavs fans with Roddy! They had him as the second coming! That doesn't make him though overrated as a standpoint from other fans and media etc. Kawhi is overhyped by some fans yes, but in everyday talk outside of here and non bias fans he is not overhyped.

That is true, but dude is a baller regardless. He is very talented but does have flaws like alot do out there.

nobody throught paul george was going to be the next big thing, until he broke out....same thing can happen to kawhi if their wasnt 3tosb and a wanker of a coach in his way

kawhi end of this season will have the last laugh, cause he who laughs last....laughs the loudest, he be gone...hopefully the sperms dont match the rfa...fck them for wasting him like how they waste duncans last 7seasons....

kawhi too good to be held back and playing behind 3tosb, and the fkn chuckers on the team....

[TDMVPDPOY]

What's the story behind the Enrique nickname for Parker tbh ?

go youtube and search enrique ilgesias - hero song

listen to the lyrics very closely....cause that song was written soley for this wanker the way he plays

[The Reckoning]

that chinese guy on the rockets

[szkorhetz]

nobody throught paul george was going to be the next big thing, until he broke out....same thing can happen to kawhi if their wasnt 3tosb and a wanker of a coach in his way

kawhi end of this season will have the last laugh, cause he who laughs last....laughs the loudest, he be gone...hopefully the sperms dont match the rfa...fck them for wasting him like how they waste duncans last 7seasons....

kawhi too good to be held back and playing behind 3tosb, and the fkn chuckers on the team....

You guys still overvalue Leo. In fact most of the posters here state Deng as a good role player but have Kawhi as a star in the making. Just no. Even Jimmy Butler will have a better carreer when it is all said and done.

[TDMVPDPOY]

You guys still overvalue Leo. In fact most of the posters here state Deng as a good role player but have Kawhi as a star in the making. Just no. Even Jimmy Butler will have a better carreer when it is all said and done.

currently jimmy and lance is having better years then kawhi...

system sucks monkey dick

[Thread]

3) Kobe Bryant (Has regressed considerably, yet he's STILL a ballhog and mean to his teammates?)

His pass to Artest withstanding. And if your people were as mean you'd be at 5, he'd been pisser in his shit bag and I wouldn't be here.

Let us proceed...

[irishock]

8) Dirk Nowitzski (Those jump shots finally fell for him in the playoffs 3 years ago, but for the most part, he has seriously regressed. He's very close to being done.)

Yeah at 36 years old putting up 22 a game in 32 minutes while shooting 48/40/90 is seriously regressing.



2) James Harden (Bad shooter, selfish/isolation player, no defense, not a true PG)

Well, maybe you should consider researching what position he actually plays



6) Chris Paul (Considered the best PG in the NBA...yet he has accomplished NOTHING. How many more times does Tony Parker or some other PG have to destroy him in the playoffs before the media admits this guy is overrated?)



10) Mike Conley (I like Mike Conley. But he's nowhere close to being in the elite PG discussion, yet every time I hear his name it comes up that he is. Which is utterly ridiculous.)

:lmao holy shit! Clearly an Enrique fan we have here


:lol 'They call me pro'
:lol terrible takes
:lol shut the fuck up and get your ass back upstairs

[jag]

Deron Williams

[djohn2oo8]

Blake Griffin.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol the Enrique fans calling out the other pgs of the league, none of those guys get to play with the GOAT PF and turnoboli,

so all of a sudden Enrique gets all the credit?

[LnGrrrR]

Eh, I don't think Avery Bradley is overrated that much. He's a serviceable defender, and he's slowly getting a shot. I don't remember many teams clamoring for him.

What about Dejuan Blair? That dude was hyped as the next basketball Jesus on these boards.

Andrew Bynum should be on there too. Sure, he rang, but a lot more was expected.

Oden gets a pass obviously.


And who is this "TheyCallMePro" guy? Saying the C's couldn't trade Rondo? I'm pretty sure the C's could trade him, at least for a first rounder, likely only top 3 protected. Clipper Nation's criticism is more valid.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and calling Harden overrated because he shoots alot of free throws is laughable. He is a SHOOTING guard :lol

[Prime Time]

Iguodala, Rudy Gay, Ricky Rubio, to name a few.

[DMC]

Let's face it, everyone in the league is overrated. Several million a year for anyone to play basketball is severely overrating them.

Jordan is overrated more than anyone though. He was good, but he wasn't flawless.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Bradley isn't overrated. He is one of the best defensive PG, if not the best defensive PG in the league.

Gallinari isn't overrated as well. The Guy was turning to a damn good player before his ACL injury.

Everyone else on the list has been overrated except Vasquez, who is just know for being a great passer, which he is, so that is not being overrated.

[djohn2oo8]

Fucking shameful :lol

WRIaNHkechs

[Rogue]

Kawhi Leonard is just as much overrated as Pigface Lawrence imho. Dude is a solid role player but any team giving him a role more significant than #3 would be in serious trouble (unless tanking is their aim, of course). Leonard's ceiling is the prime Gerald Wallace and Smokey Howard, and he's already playing close to that level. Guy's just a black version of Gordon Hayward imho

[LnGrrrR]

Prime Gerald Wallace was fun to watch though... a lot more fun than watching him now anyways :lol

[313]

Lance Stephenson

:lol if he makes the all star team

[FkLA]

Doesn't change the fact that he's bringing the ball up the floor almost every possession. And it's hard to watch. You know he's going to jack up a 3 after a few pump fakes or he's going to drive and beg for a foul call. He doesn't facilitate at all.

I understand that he torches our Spurs all the time and you dont like him but this is a really dumb breakdown of Hardens game tbh. Bar none hes the best SG in the game, can drive and shoot plus averages 5+ apg.

Also yall niggas to ease up on the Parker hate. I was as hard on him as any fan but he came through last year, hes made alot of progress with his ballhog tendencies. The game plan he is given by the coaches is to get everyone involved in the first three quarters and take over in the 4th, hes talked about that in interviews in the past. Thats probably why yall nigs think hes going into 'hero' mode. I dont have a problem with it Im behind Frenchie 100% now tbh.

[FkLA]

Gordan Hayward
Kevin Love
David Lee

White players are almost always overrated tbh.

[Brazil]

David Lee


:lol the goods

FkLA right bout' Boris

[FkLA]

:hat

Sup Brazil, hows life my French nigga ?

[Brazil]

:hat

Sup Brazil (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466), hows life my French nigga ?

Busy and boring at work, awesome outside of it... getting ready for the WC and you ?

[jimbo]

His pass to Artest withstanding. And if your people were as mean you'd be at 5, he'd been pisser in his shit bag and I wouldn't be here.

Let us proceed...

You'd give up a decade+ long shtick because Kobe wouldn't have rung?

chickenshit

[Thread]

You'd give up a decade+ long shtick because Kobe wouldn't have rung?

Did you let Bosh put your pants on your ankles?

[jimbo]

Did you let Bosh put your pants on your ankles?

I thanked him for the opportunity.

[FkLA]

Busy and boring at work, awesome outside of it... getting ready for the WC and you ?

Same, pretty much except boring outside of work as well. :lol

Cant wait for the WC even though we probably wont win a game tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

This thread is about potential being overrated, btw, but everybody is naming finished products that they think are overrated:lol..

[Raven]

the randolph, terrence williams and oj mayo trio has been overrated strictly out of fantasy purposes, i doubt anyone ever thought they could win games with one of those, and if there is someone who did, he should be locked in a mental institute tbh.

[sook]

Nice thread.

For me:

1) Dwight Howard (3 point shooters carried him to the Finals and he got all the credit. Poor offensive player. Overrated defensively. Complete knucklehead.)

2) James Harden (Bad shooter, selfish/isolation player, no defense, not a true PG)

3) Rajon Rondo (TERRIBLE shooter, arrogant, and a BAD teammate. There's a reason the Celtics can't trade this guy)

3) Kobe Bryant (Has regressed considerably, yet he's STILL a ballhog and mean to his teammates?)

4) Steve Nash (For the love of God just retire already. I swear he's lying on his back on the court 90% of the time he even dresses.)

5) Pau Gasol (He only shoots jump shots now. He doesn't seem to care about trying. Even Mike Dantoni called him out earlier this year.)

6) Chris Paul (Considered the best PG in the NBA...yet he has accomplished NOTHING. How many more times does Tony Parker or some other PG have to destroy him in the playoffs before the media admits this guy is overrated?)

7) Carmelo Anthony (Obvious pick, but he's such a ballhog that it's hard not to include him on this list. Oh, and he doesn't play any defense.)

8) Dirk Nowitzski (Those jump shots finally fell for him in the playoffs 3 years ago, but for the most part, he has seriously regressed. He's very close to being done.)

9) Zach Randolph (Undersized, and takes too many jump shots, he's definitely not a star, yet everyone thinks of him as one.)

10) Mike Conley (I like Mike Conley. But he's nowhere close to being in the elite PG discussion, yet every time I hear his name it comes up that he is. Which is utterly ridiculous.)

Harden is not a pg dumbass.

[Sean Cagney]

nobody throught paul george was going to be the next big thing, until he broke out....same thing can happen to kawhi if their wasnt 3tosb and a wanker of a coach in his way

kawhi end of this season will have the last laugh, cause he who laughs last....laughs the loudest, he be gone...hopefully the sperms dont match the rfa...fck them for wasting him like how they waste duncans last 7seasons....

kawhi too good to be held back and playing behind 3tosb, and the fkn chuckers on the team....
Yeah those old guys are the reason the Spurs have quite a few of those rings and keep getting far every year. When they are gone he can shine but there will be no more deep playoff runs without those three you called tired. I think they can stick around all they want because when they are gone the Spurs runs are gone until the next guy we luck out and draft comes in.

Kawhi I hope gets more touches though and continues to develop further.
Harden is not a pg dumbass.

Yep, I said that to him earlier on in this thread

[Katherine Robinson]

Harden, Ibaka and Griffin are obvious mentions in the newer fold of players. Especially Harden who heavily relies on flopping and favorable officiating to get about 10 trips to the line per game. Ibaka is just not as good as many make him out to be and Griffin doesn't play defense despite his athletic ability to challenge anybody his size.

[HarlemHeat37]

Griffin is one of the most criticized players in the NBA, tbh, I can't see any argument for him being overrated:lol..

[Katherine Robinson]

Griffin is one of the most criticized players in the NBA, tbh, I can't see any argument for him being overrated:lol..

Seeing his name being popped up as a dark horse for MVP, just seeing that made me think overrated.

[djohn2oo8]

Griffin is one of the most criticized players in the NBA, tbh, I can't see any argument for him being overrated:lol..
100 million for a big man who is a pussy and hasn't made it past the second round.

[spurraider21]

100 million for a big man who is a pussy and hasn't made it past the second round.
yet you gave a max to coward... blake griffin was the first big piece that keyed the Clippers turnaround. that team is average or below in 3 of their 5 starting positions and they've had a bottom 3 coach in blake's tenure before this season.

[D-Wade]

Forget to put in Josh Smith, too. The whole Atlanta Hawks team for that matter. They were given credit for being in the mix every year... no shit it's the east and someone had to be in the 5-8 spot. They never had any chance, and it started with the 3 point chucking overrated defender Josh Smith.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/is-josh-smith-the-worst-three-point-shooter-of-all-time-1506600877?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebo ok&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[djohn2oo8]

yet you gave a max to coward... blake griffin was the first big piece that keyed the Clippers turnaround. that team is average or below in 3 of their 5 starting positions and they've had a bottom 3 coach in blake's tenure before this season.
Clippers didn't make the playoffs until Chris Paul got there, so he was actually the key piece to the turnaround. And Howard was worth the max, what other options did they have?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Kyrie Irving? iirc weren't some people putting him in their top 3 pg rankings? dude seems to have fizzled out as of late

[DMC]

Leonard is absolutely overrated. So was Blair, Neal and George fucking Hill. Players in the Spurs system get a lot of wins, so their participation makes them appear to be solid. Put them in a system where they are leaned on more heavily to produce themselves and you quickly see they are below average bench players. Leonard seems to have the potential, he's had good games, but outside of his gimpy hands and his shyness, he's just another mental case trying to fit in, and Spurs fans prefer to think the glass is half full instead of realizing there is no glass.

[Clipper Nation]

100 million for a big man who is a pussy and hasn't made it past the second round.
At least Blake's made the playoffs, unlike Kevin "Empty Stats" Love, who most casual NBA fans think is better than him :lol

If you want to see what a pussy big man looks like, take a look at your own team's center.... Dwight is one of the league's biggest pussies by far, tbh....

Blake is one of the most underrated players in the league, people's criticism is still based on ESPN highlight reels that only show his dunks and how he played in his rookie year before he started to refine his skills.... he is statistically the second-best post scorer in the league so far this year only behind Dirk, but people still say he has "no post game"... he also has always been very good at passing for a big, is improving his jumper and getting better at the free throw line, and in CP3's absence, he's taken on the alpha role with no noticeable dip in the team's offensive production, yet he's written off as a one-dimensional scrub by the average NBA fan....

[Clipper Nation]

Clippers didn't make the playoffs until Chris Paul got there, so he was actually the key piece to the turnaround.
CP3 doesn't go to the Clippers without Blake already being there, tbh....

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

LeBron. Clearly the best today... clearly not MJ.

[djohn2oo8]

CP3 doesn't go to the Clippers without Blake already being there, tbh....
To be fair, Paul doesn't go there without Stern bitch slapping Fredo :lol

[Clipper Nation]

To be fair, Paul doesn't go there without Stern bitch slapping Fredo :lol
:lol Partially true, although Fredo's shit trade proposal helped.... still though, the Clippers aren't even on CP3's list of destinations without Blake already there....

[Brunodf]

D.Lee
K. Love
L. Aldridge
J.Smith
R.Gay
Zbo
D.Williams
J. Johnson
J. Lin
A. Iguodala
K. Irving
Al Jefferson
D. Cousins

[spurraider21]

Clippers didn't make the playoffs until Chris Paul got there, so he was actually the key piece to the turnaround. And Howard was worth the max, what other options did they have?
they weren't going to get CP3 if it wasn't for Blake tbh. he's the one that energized the franchise and started the turnaround. of course the chris paul trade made them a top 5 WC team, but i think blake deserves the contract he got. he's still improving too, at least offensively. he leaves a lot to be desired defensively, but at least he's strong on the boards

[Captivus]

Chris Paul

[HarlemHeat37]

If I went with a list of overrated players based on their present impact(at the time), tbh:

1- prime Deron Williams
2- Rajon Rondo
3- Kyrie Irving
4- Dwyane Wade from 2012 to present
5- Jeff Green
6- Rockets Kevin Martin
7- Rubio prior to this season
8- Klay Thompson
9- Luol Deng
10- Super role players(Iguodala, Hibbert, Noah, etc)

[spurraider21]

^i dont think anybody has been overrating wade for the past 2 years, but nice attempt to prop up bron tbh, as if he needed it

[rascal]

Manu has been very overrated on this site.

[cjw]

Iguoadala should be on that list. Every year, and even now to a lesser extent, is supposedly his break out year...I swear I've seen way too many poster claim he can be a legit #1 option a few years ago.

He was a key cog on a gold medal winning Olympic team... but agree, can be a key piece on a championship team but not a #1 option. Can shut down another team's #1 though, which is half the battle. Using that logic, you can say Dirk is overrated based on his defense alone and that's ridiculous.

[HarlemHeat37]

^i dont think anybody has been overrating wade for the past 2 years, but nice attempt to prop up bron tbh, as if he needed it

:lol there are still an abundance of people that severely overrate Lebron's supporting casts..go look at any of the Lebron vs. Dad Killer threads..

[Rogue]

The Lockets also gave a max to that 7'6 shit a few years ago only to allow him to collect 34m for the last two years of his contract without playing a single game... oh sorry, he did play like 6-7 games right, less than 20 minutes each game, in TWO years? Well spent, tbh.

[Rogue]

My nigga Irving is just pissed at the Cavs FO and I believe he'll leave that shithole franchise as soon as he can (the end of this season, probably). Maybe Irving would've considered staying there if the cavs had drafted MCW with their #1 overall pick last summer, but sadly they wasted it on a d-league-level black quarterback who has no business of playing basketball.

[Ace]

Paul George