Malcolm Thomas waived (update: claimed by Utah)

[romsho]

https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA/status/426428567618977793

[Juggity]

Clearing a spot for somebody else?

[monkeypunk]

:pctoss

[Beaverfuzz]

Clearing a spot for somebody else?


Yep. It's going to happen now.

[RD2191]

Just saw that on my FB.

[loveforthegame]

Disappointed but not surprised. :td

[Dex]

:lmao And another Spurs savior bites the dust...


Clearing a spot for somebody else?

Definitely. Probably Jeffers.

[RD2191]

Can another team pick him up? Bet he signs with a contender and torches the Spurs in the future.

[Dex]

Can't feel too bad for Thomas. IIRC, Spurs guaranteed his contract already, so he just got paid a minimum deal to play in like two games, and now he can either go back to the DLeague and continue to develop, or go to a team that will actually give him playing time.

[ElNono]

Money well spent, tbh... :lol

[cd98]

Obviously we need a small forward.

[DisAsTerBot]

but who???

[Baam]

Can another team pick him up? Bet he signs with a contender and torches the Spurs in the future.

Meh, if there's one former Spurs to be afraid of imo it's Neal, if he gets traded to the West and especially to the Thunder it's gonna be a nightmare, he's gonna go full Choo Choo on us.

[monkeypunk]

Anybody but Josh Howard.

[spurraider21]

Udoka

[Boomersgold]

The return of Stephen Jackson. Have the Clippers waived him yet?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

T-Mac coming back!

[timtonymanu]

WTF? I thought he was signed for the remainder of the year?

[Ditty]

They couldn't use him as trade bait or to possibly match salaries? God I hope Josh Howard isn't going to get called up...

[look_at_g_shred]

Bet we go after a guy like Childress.

[Darius McCrary]

THIS SEASON IS OVER

[loveforthegame]

Bet we go after a guy like Childress.

Ace posted this in another thread.


Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Hearing San Antonio, as it copes with an injury crisis, has Iowa's Othyus Jeffers in its sights for 10-day callup from @nbadleague this week

[slick'81]

Othyus Jeffers

[waisman]

I don't understand

[timtonymanu]

Othyus Jeffers?

This was the dude that wore Bowen's jersey two seasons ago IIRC.

[cd021]

The return of Stephen Jackson. Have the Clippers waived him yet?

Yes. A couple of weeks ago. I'd love that. Come back Captain

[Chinook]

Another showing of bad timing with the Spurs' FO. Not that paying him really hurts them. Still, I hope they at least try to buy out Bertans when he gets healthy.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

a lil off topic, but spurs reportedly interested in udrih

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/26635/20140121/ny-knicks-trade-rumors-beno-udrih-deal-chicago-bulls-san.htm

[cd021]

WTF? I thought he was signed for the remainder of the year?

Yep. He was. He can be waived to clear a spot. Like De Colo and Baynes, as well.

[Kyuui-Musikq]

Devin Ebanks. He's tearing it up for the Legends.

Legit SF at 6-9 shooting 34% from 3 and Avg. 25 PPG & 9.5 RPG

[Raven]

:lol

[G-Dawgg]

Come back home Captain Jack

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I can't see the Spurs releasing Thomas for another D-leaguer... Just seems like a move that makes no sense.. especially considering his contract became guaranteed.

This has the making for a trade or free agent signing with a veteran player IMO.

[playbonner15]

Called it tbh:wakeup

[Chomag]

Stupid...does this FO know what the hell they are doing? Pop didn't even give the kid a chance. Spurs need to get more athletic not less That was guaranteed money wasn't it?

[Lerojo]

Melo probably wants out of NY.

Cavs may want to rid Anthony Bennett

Dunleavy and Hinrich deal

[Kyuui-Musikq]

I can't see the Spurs releasing Thomas for another D-leaguer... Just seems like a move that makes no sense.. especially considering his contract became guaranteed.

This has the making for a trade or free agent signing with a veteran player IMO.

Pop just said in an interview after the Milwaukee game he's developing him. The only reason to wave him is to sign someone who's a 3, Thomas being a 4, because we Absolutely need someone there.

[Baam]

I can't see the Spurs releasing Thomas for another D-leaguer... Just seems like a move that makes no sense.. especially considering his contract became guaranteed.

This has the making for a trade or free agent signing with a veteran player IMO.

Well I'm with you but it looks like it's pretty much done and only needs to be announced :

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/1275/spurs-target-othyus-jeffers-for-10-day-deal

[cd021]

I can't see the Spurs releasing Thomas for another D-leaguer... Just seems like a move that makes no sense.. especially considering his contract became guaranteed.

This has the making for a trade or free agent signing with a veteran player IMO.

clearing a spot to take on two players in a deal is possible.

[Chomag]

I can't see the Spurs releasing Thomas for another D-leaguer... Just seems like a move that makes no sense.. especially considering his contract became guaranteed.

[Beaverfuzz]

a lil off topic, but spurs reportedly interested in udrih

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/26635/20140121/ny-knicks-trade-rumors-beno-udrih-deal-chicago-bulls-san.htm

Spurs don't need any more guards, it's big men or bust!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Well I'm with you but it looks like it's pretty much done and only needs to be announced :

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/1275/spurs-target-othyus-jeffers-for-10-day-deal

Yeah, but releasing him for a guaranteed contract in my opinion shows that they are looking for something bigger. Not to mention a "10 day deal" seems like they are just looking for someone to fill the void right now - while they target a trade.

Still don't know why they didn't keep Thomas for that though.

[Chinook]

They could waive him at any time. If they needed his spot for a bigger deal, they could have waited until right before it happened. They probably do juat intend to sign 10-days for now.

[313]

It'll be interesting to see if they person they sign, whoever that may be, will actually have any positive impact.

And am I the only one wishes they waived Errors and kept Thomas?

[DPG21920]

This is just odd. They really guaranteed MT's deal strictly because they saw him as a PF only when the Spurs already have a ton of PF's??

If you believe in someone, why on Earth would you let them go for a stop gap D-Leaguer who's not proven anything? Just because he already had a previous stint with you?

[bklynspursfan]

This is just odd. They really guaranteed MT's deal strictly because they saw him as a PF only when the Spurs already have a ton of PF's??

If you believe in someone, why on Earth would you let them go for a stop gap D-Leaguer who's not proven anything? Just because he already had a previous stint with you?

If that report was true, I wonder if maybe they intended on moving one of our PF's? Who knows

[Bruno]

Spurs are so far below the tax that they could afford this kind of move financially wise. They can "waste" a few $100K easily.

What made Thomas special was his new found 3 point shooting and he has been atrocious for about 1 month in that area. Not only was he missing his shots, but he was missing them badly. If Spurs have reached the conclusion that his early 3 point shooting streak was a fluke and that he would likely never be a good 3 point shooter, waiving him isn't a big deal.

[Baam]

This is just odd. They really guaranteed MT's deal strictly because they saw him as a PF only when the Spurs already have a ton of PF's??

If you believe in someone, why on Earth would you let them go for a stop gap D-Leaguer who's not proven anything? Just because he already had a previous stint with you?

The FO looks out of control since the Finals tbh... Shitty move after shitty move... Ayres + Beli + picking up Cojo's option + signing Thomas and waiting after the deadline to waive him, basically paying him to play in the D league... And now we have Jeffers...

[DPG21920]

Waiving MT is not the issue - it's the logic. If they believe he was a PF only, why even bother signing him? If you believe he had improved his 3PT shot enough to guarantee his money, why then lose faith after one month of not so good 3PT shooting?

The money aspect is irrelevant to me. Its the logic and the fact they want to replace his spot on the roster with a guy who sucks. Others might suck too, but there are a few guys who appear to be better fits and suck less with more upside.

[elemento]

I am not pissed that Thomas was waived.

But I would be pissed if they waived him to get a scrub like Othyus Jeffers.

[RD2191]

Waiving MT is not the issue - it's the logic. If they believe he was a PF only, why even bother signing him? If you believe he had improved his 3PT shot enough to guarantee his money, why then lose faith after one month of not so good 3PT shooting?

The money aspect is irrelevant to me. Its the logic and the fact they want to replace his spot on the roster with a guy who sucks. Others might suck too, but there are a few guys who appear to be better fits and suck less with more upside.
I've lost all faith in the FO tbh.

[Chomag]

Looks like RC may be drinking again.

[DPG21920]

I've lost all faith in the FO tbh.

:lol I wouldn't go that far

[Bruno]

Waiving MT is not the issue - it's the logic. If they believe he was a PF only, why even bother signing him?

Because if he was able to shoot constantly 3 pointers, he would have been something special.


If you believe he had improved his 3PT shot enough to guarantee his money, why then lose faith after one month of not so good 3PT shooting?

Because his hot 3 point shooting has only last 5 games.

Thomas first 5 D-League games: 16/27 from behind the arc.
Thomas next 8 D-league games: 4/19 from behind the arc.

[Bruno]

I am not pissed that Thomas was waived.

But I would be pissed if they waived him to get a scrub like Othyus Jeffers.

Well, it would only be a 10 day contract. Some of the players mentioned might not be interested in signing that kind of contract.

[xmas1997]

Looks like RC may be drinking again.

Yeah, he's doing a lot of second guessing it seems like.

[DPG21920]

Because if he was able to shoot constantly 3 pointers, he would have been something special.



Because his hot 3 point shooting has only last 5 games.

Thomas first 5 D-League games: 16/27 from behind the arc.
Thomas next 8 D-league games: 4/19 from behind the arc.

Sure, but the Spurs had a lot of one on one time with him in practice. They surely didn't sign him based off just what they saw in the D League..If they signed him, worked with him and guaranteed his deal, I don't see why they would sour on him because of his next 19 shots..

[Chinook]

Thomas was still shooting better than Jeffers. Rebounds better and is taller to block shots.

[DPG21920]

Exactly :lol. So, a guy with guaranteed money who does everything better than the guy you want waive him for gets waived for that guy? Ok I guess. It's obviously not the end of the world and we are discussing a limited role type guy, but wow.

[Texas_Ranger]

So they cut a scrub so they can sign an even worse scrub. lol Spurs

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I am not pissed that Thomas was waived.

But I would be pissed if they waived him to get a scrub like Othyus Jeffers.
My thoughts exactly

[Bruno]

Sure, but the Spurs had a lot of one on one time with him in practice. They surely didn't sign him based off just what they saw in the D League..If they signed him, worked with him and guaranteed his deal, I don't see why they would sour on him because of his next 19 shots..

Spurs could have been on the fence about it at the guaranteed deadline. Just before that deadline, Thomas had some kind of concussion and Spurs could have put his strugglings on it.

Something to consider is Chip input on that subject. He might have said that Thomas needed to tweak is shooting form to become a reliable 3 point shooter. Chip and Thomas worked together on tweaking it but it didn't worked so Chip told Pop that he likely wouldn't be able to turn him into a good 3 point shooter.

[SpursRock20]

You know it's bad when even the smart ones on this forum can't really figure this move out.

[wildchild]

Spurs are so far below the tax that they could afford this kind of move financially wise. They can "waste" a few $100K easily.

What made Thomas special was his new found 3 point shooting and he has been atrocious for about 1 month in that area. Not only was he missing his shots, but he was missing them badly. If Spurs have reached the conclusion that his early 3 point shooting streak was a fluke and that he would likely never be a good 3 point shooter, waiving him isn't a big deal.

Obviously Spurs can live without Thomas, but he's a really good defender -and athletic-.
He knows the Spurs systems better than other new guy of D-League, what was the problem if Spurs kept the guy in the team?
He isn't a 3's shooter? Well, we need defense right now.

[Bruno]

Obviously Spurs can live without Thomas, but he's a really good defender -and athletic-.
He knows the Spurs systems better than other new guy of D-League, what was the problem if Spurs kept the guy in the team?
He isn't a 3's shooter? Well, we need defense right now.

Well, you're talking about Thomas covering up perimeter players, something he has very little or even never done. I'm not sold on him being "really good" at that.

[DPG21920]

Well, you're talking about Thomas covering up perimeter players, something he has very little or even never done. I'm not sold on him being "really good" at that.

But don't we already know that Jeffers isn't?

[DPG21920]

The only thing that makes sense to me is the Spurs soured on MT (no big deal) and with this Kawhi injury know they need a SF. In their search, no trade has come up that either they like or another team likes and many other available SF's won't sign with the Spurs either with a 10-day. So Jeffers is the first on the list (even if way down on the list) of things they can do.

Seems a little out there, but maybe. I think they honestly believe Jeffers is the best option available which blows my mind.

[Bruno]

But don't we already know that Jeffers isn't?

Jeffers is presented as a good defender and unlike Thomas, he has played some SF in his career.

Now, I'm' not a fan of a potential Jeffers signing. To me, it would be clearly just a temporary emergency answer.

[wildchild]

Well, you're talking about Thomas covering up perimeter players, something he has very little or even never done. I'm not sold on him being "really good" at that.

I know, he's more PF (even he played as C in Fisher's system and Kawhi as PF) but he's versatile. There are worse things in the world than have an athletic guy like him in the team.
For example: Cory and Beli at SF.

[look_at_g_shred]

Spurs trying to put a band-aid on a wound that requires surgery.

[Chinook]

Jeffers doesn't have to be the only move they make. If they were willing to eat Thomas' money, they'll eat a 10-day. I imagine they're still open to making moves, but rightfully, they don't need to panic. Whomever they get will be on the bench with a healthy rotation. They don't need to overpay for that.

[Libri]

:lmao And another Spurs savior bites the dust...



Definitely. Probably Jeffers.

beat me to it :lol

[timtonymanu]

Jeffers won't be on the roster in a few weeks anyway. We still have a while before the trade deadline too.

[ABC]

they don't need to panic. Whomever they get will be on the bench with a healthy rotation. They don't need to overpay for that.


Jeffers won't be on the roster in a few weeks anyway. We still have a while before the trade deadline too.

Exactly. And by waiving Thomas instead of De Colo or Baynes they still have all their potential trade pieces available.

[monkeypunk]

Is he eligible to be resigned by us after the injured guys come back?

[spurtech09]

aw man I like Thomas

[Captivus]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLS7l1Yfqybp6YEb2RISqcWHcPpMXcP l9AWET88NxyEdfzWh8N

[DapDaGenius]

Man....it must suck for Thomas, though. Well, I hope we get something good out of this.

[r0drig0lac]

a lil off topic, but spurs reportedly interested in udrih

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/26635/20140121/ny-knicks-trade-rumors-beno-udrih-deal-chicago-bulls-san.htm
all SA need another point guard

[Dex]

Man....it must suck for Thomas, though. Well, I hope we get something good out of this.

Dude got paid $702,232 to show up to practice a few times and play 15 minutes of NBA basketball. And now he's free to go back to whatever the hell it is he was doing a month ago.

Can't say I'd be too banged up about it.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude got paid $702,232 to show up to practice a few times and play 15 minutes of NBA basketball. And now he's free to go back to whatever the hell it is he was doing a month ago.

Can't say I'd be too banged up about it.He might get picked up off waivers; if not he should almost immediately be signed to a 10-day by some team.

[RD2191]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11b9dbkACi4

[DapDaGenius]

Dude got paid $702,232 to show up to practice a few times and play 15 minutes of NBA basketball. And now he's free to go back to whatever the hell it is he was doing a month ago.

Can't say I'd be too banged up about it.

That's true, but I just mean overall. He's been moved around a good bit through his career. Of course, plenty of players go through this, though.

[exstatic]

Man....it must suck for Thomas, though. Well, I hope we get something good out of this.

The Spurs can sign me tomorrow, play me not AT ALL, and pay my ass $700K. :lol Poor Malcolm.

[TheGoldStandard]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLS7l1Yfqybp6YEb2RISqcWHcPpMXcP l9AWET88NxyEdfzWh8N

Pop and RC went on a drinking binge.

[superbigtime]

I hope a quality instant production player falls out of the sky into the Spurs lap like Diaw did a couple years ago. Spurs need a break. Where's the fuckn karma.

[baseline bum]

Fucking retards in the Spurs FO. Look what happened when they waived Pops Mensah-Bonsu.

[DapDaGenius]

The Spurs can sign me tomorrow, play me not AT ALL, and pay my ass $700K. :lol Poor Malcolm.

:lol I already discussed this with someone. I'm not just talking his brief stay with us, just referring to his career overall. Sure he has the money for very little play, but I'm sure he'd like to have a consistent place and to be recognized. Like I said to the other guy, he's been shipped around a decent bit. Of course, he isn't the only player that goes through this.

Yes, poor Malcolm. :depressed

[Sean Cagney]

Fucking retards in the Spurs FO. Look what happened when they waived Pops Mensah-Bonsu.

YEP AND JAMES WHITE! HE COULD DUNK!!!!!!!!!! Our damn saviors we had we waived!

[pookenstein]

A couple of q's:
1. If he's not picked up by another Team, can the Spurs get him back later in the season?
2. Can the Toros sign him?
3. If they (Toros) can, might there be some sign of agreement between Thomas and the Spurs for next season?

[ChumpDumper]

A couple of q's:
1. If he's not picked up by another Team, can the Spurs get him back later in the season?
2. Can the Toros sign him?
3. If they (Toros) can, might there be some sign of agreement between Thomas and the Spurs for next season?
1. Yes.

2. No. The Los Angeles team owns his D-League rights.

3. N/A

[pookenstein]

1. Yes.

2. No. The Los Angeles team owns his D-League rights.

3. N/A

Thx. D-Fenders own them although he played for the Toros when he was with the Spurs? Seems a Little odd.

[ChumpDumper]

Thx. D-Fenders own them although he played for the Toros when he was with the Spurs? Seems a Little odd.He was a Spur on assignment then. He's not a Spur anymore.

[TheGoldStandard]

Maybe we should have just signed Deshaun Thomas

[Chomag]

Wont impact the team either way since Pop wont play either of them, but how stupid are they giving up guaranteed money just to sign a 10 day contract on a scrub that wont even play?

[TheGoldStandard]

Wont impact the team either way since Pop wont play either of them, but how stupid are they giving up guaranteed money just to sign a 10 day contract on a scrub that wont even play?

WHAT!!!??? The front office does nothing wrong, they are infallible.

[ChumpDumper]

Wont impact the team either way since Pop wont play either of them, but how stupid are they giving up guaranteed money just to sign a 10 day contract on a scrub that wont even play?There isn't any danger of hitting the tax threshold, so what's it to you?

[Budkin]

Read on PtR that they waived Thomas because he's a PF, not a SF.

[weebo]

:lol This is what the Spurs do. They get some scrub no one has ever heard of---> ST overrates him ---> Spurs FO cuts him ---> ST meltdown. By now you should all know how the Spurs operate. They do this every year. The next guy that comes in from the d-league or wherever will be just another guy to take up space.

The only reason to get excited is if the Spurs make a block buster mid-season trade, but we all know that isn't going to happen, right? Holt & friends will make damn sure to milk the Big 3 for as long as they can before they realize they have to pony up to bring some real talent in to SA.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i hate this move. i'd rather have seen them part ways with ayers or decolo.

[Sean Cagney]

i hate this move. i'd rather have seen them part ways with ayers or decolo.
Ayres is POPS project, he is not going anywhere anytime soon and will probably be re-signed when his contact is up (Bet on it). This is his new Bonner.

[TheGoldStandard]

Ayres is POPS project, he is not going anywhere anytime soon and will probably be re-signed when his contact is up (Bet on it). This is his new Bonner.

It's embarrassing but it's true.

[Dex]

Ayres is POPS project, he is not going anywhere anytime soon and will probably be re-signed when his contact is up (Bet on it). This is his new Bonner.

I'm not sure how much Ayres is Pop's project, or Boylen's.

Then again, Pop is the one who keeps calling him off the bench.

[DMC]

Did you waive back?

[exstatic]

Scenario: say our injuries all sort out, and since Malcolm has the Spurs money, he can afford to be more picky in his callups. The Spurs decide they want him back for development. He's available. Do they have to pay him another $700K if they want to re-sign him? Or can they just resume or re-activate his contract?

[ChumpDumper]

Scenario: say our injuries all sort out, and since Malcolm has the Spurs money, he can afford to be more picky in his callups. The Spurs decide they want him back for development. He's available. Do they have to pay him another $700K if they want to re-sign him? Or can they just resume or re-activate his contract?New contract, but prorated for games remaining.

[jeebus]

Then again, Pop is the one who keeps calling him off the bench.
like a dog constantly returning to its own vomit.

[Bambililos]

Well Jeffries looked like a poor man's Kawhi last game, so it's not bad for a cheap replacement. But yeah, I'd rather have someone else useful for the playoffs.

[BatManu20]

427217197111328768

[Robz4000]

Welp, won't be getting him back.

[ABC]

If he's claimed off waivers, the Spurs do not pay, correct?

[Budkin]

427217197111328768

Hopefully we make some kind of real move before the trade deadline.

[Bruno]

That's a good news financially wise for Spurs. They won't have to pay the rest of Thomas contract (about $400K) and his whole contract is off the book regarding the luxury tax (about $700k).

Basketball wise, it quite close the door to a possible Thomas come back with Spurs this year.

[ABC]

Thanks Bruno. It's also good because now Spurs' fans have one less thing to whine about.

[Bruno]

Thanks Bruno. It's also good because now Spurs' fans have one less thing to whine about.

Well, if Thomas produces with Utah, you will see tons of whining. While there will be likely some exaggeration, some of this whining will be justified.

And in the case of Thomas being good, it should entice even more Utah to trade away Marvin Williams, a player Spurs could targeted.

[jeebus]

Basketball wise, it quite close the door to a possible Thomas come back with Spurs this year.

And RJ gets a new play toy.

[Robz4000]

And RJ get's a new play toy.

This is the most important aspect tbh.

:cry poor Thomas :cry

[jeebus]

This is the most important aspect tbh.

:cry poor Thomas :cry
I know. It seems no one cares about RJ and his needs as a human.

And shit, gets doesn't need a '

[ABC]

Well, if Thomas produces with Utah, you will see tons of whining. While there will be likely some exaggeration, some of this whining will be justified.

And in the case of Thomas being good, it should entice even more Utah to trade away Marvin Williams, a player Spurs could targeted.

CIA Pop? :) Tangentially, how does Jean-Charles' game compare to Thomas' game?

[HI-FI]

And RJ gets a new play toy.

:lol

the screams from the ripping n'tearing will be diffused by the mountains.

[Bruno]

CIA Pop? :) Tangentially, how does Jean-Charles' game compare to Thomas' game?

Jean-Charles is more mobile and is able to defend perimeter players. Thomas is more of a inside presence.

[ABC]

Jean-Charles is more mobile and is able to defend perimeter players. Thomas is more of a inside presence.
Thanks :toast

[sasffl]

Jazz like to collect bigman?

[PublicOption]

I think we need a Malcolm Thomas tracker thread. This guy is gonna be a star.............and Pop is an asshole for waiving him.

[toki9]

maybe this had something to do with the spurs waiving him...given scott layden's ties to the jazz, perhaps they knew of utah's interest and that thomas would get a better shot in utah and free up a space for the spurs...kind of win-win for everyone...and pretty poppovicean?

[exstatic]

I think we need a Malcolm Thomas tracker thread. This guy is gonna be a star.............and Pop is an asshole for waiving him.

:lol :rollin As soon as teams (NBA and dleague!) figured out that Mal could shoot the 3, they ran him off the line, and his percentages plummeted.

I think this thread will do just fine when Mal blows up and becomes a 'star'. :lol

[Bruno]

maybe this had something to do with the spurs waiving him...given scott layden's ties to the jazz, perhaps they knew of utah's interest and that thomas would get a better shot in utah and free up a space for the spurs...kind of win-win for everyone...and pretty poppovicean?

Yep, it's possible that Spurs knew Utah would claim Thomas before they waived him. For Spurs, it made the move easier because they knew they wouldn't have to pay his remaining salary.

[DMC]

:lol

the screams from the ripping n'tearing will be diffused by the mountains.

Plus RJ is allowed to have many wives now.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

much rather would have seen de colo/daye trade than thomas waived.