Is Jeff Ayres the worst player in the NBA?

[MeloHype]

Simple question

[RD2191]

:lol

[DPG21920]

No - but his improvements (which largely comprise of catching passes thrown directly at him) are largely overstated. He's improving, but that is because he had no where to go but up. Spurs are stuck with him and he's going to get PT, so we have to hope he can find his jumper and learn to get better position (and hold said position) on defense.

[r0drig0lac]

not, but has worse hands than kwame brown

[HarlemHeat37]

It's difficult to separate all the individual players that form the lowest tier of NBA basketball, tbh, every team has a few of them..the Spurs have Ayres, Joseph and DeColo, for example..

[jARS mEsH sEt]

He's not the worst but he's probably among the bottom 100.

[Prime Time]

Ayres isn't even the worst player on the Spurs.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

If Errors could catch passes with consistency he'd almost be a competent 6th big.

[bklynspursfan]

Fail.

[Em-City]

Ayres isn't even the worst player on the Spurs.


this

[weeks]

sure seems that way sometimes.

i know it's difficult to imagine, but there are worse.

[Beaverfuzz]

No, Jeff Pendergraph is.

[ChumpDumper]

No.

Next question.

[look_at_g_shred]

No.

Next question.
Don't encourage him now....

[MeloHype]

No.

Next question.
Is JR Smith sucks?

simple question

[TheGoldStandard]

At 27 he's pretty bad on the Spurs.

[ChumpDumper]

Is JR Smith sucks?

simple questionYou seemed to have made it difficult somehow.

[MeloHype]

You seemed to have made it difficult somehow.
Ok

[ChumpDumper]

OkThe proper wording would be "Does JR Smith suck?"

The answer from a purely basketball standpoint is no, and I am not averse to a trade for him -- but just as current Spurs are shat upon because they are current Spurs, players who are not Spurs are often overvalued.

[MeloHype]

The proper wording would be "Does JR Smith suck?"

The answer from a purely basketball standpoint is no, and I am not averse to a trade for him -- but just as current Spurs are shat upon because they are current Spurs, players who are not Spurs are often overvalued.
Racist

[ChumpDumper]

RacistA person could be white and have trouble with English.

It's kind of a shitty language to learn -- but not impossible.

Smith's playoff numbers recently are kind of terrible. That would concern me since I'm not sold on him as any kind of defensive asset.

[wildcardX]

Well, who would you rather have on the court Ayres, Bonner, or Baynes?

[CitizenDwayne]

Isn't Ajinca on a team? I'd say he's worse

[TheGoldStandard]

Well, who would you rather have on the court Ayres, Bonner, or Baynes?

Depends on how long they'll get minutes.. Bonner is good in moderation, Baynes is decent when he has minutes against bigs and not small lineups.. Ayres, well he's just a meat bag.

[hater]

Simple question

Simple answer

yes, for the minutes he gets. yes

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

INDUBIDIBLY

[313]

Yes. anyone worse than errors isn't seeing floor time, or are playing for teams like the Bucks.

[Sean Cagney]

Ayres isn't even the worst player on the Spurs.

That ALONE is scary!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

That ALONE is scary!

That's not true. Ayres is without a doubt the worst player on this squad.

[SupremeGuy]

Shannon Brown, tbh. The hell happened to him?

[Hoops Czar]

Ayres will have company very soon.

[Darkwaters]

Simple question

You haven't been watching much Shannon Brown, have you?

[poop]

He is likely in the bottom 10

[look_at_g_shred]

I'd vote Garnett in tbh..

[Budkin]

In bottom 3 for sure.

[DMC]

He's in over his head, just like Bonner, most of the time when they are on the floor. Ayres doesn't have the skills to make any real contributions. It's just a dunk now and then, and he cannot even grab a rebound if anyone from the other team is in the vicinity. In fact, the Spurs seem to give up 2nd attempts on almost every other play. It's fucking pathetic how shitty we are at rebounding.

[Texas_Ranger]

This season yes. If you cant catch the ball go play something else.

[KL2]

Doesn't belong in the nba, one of the worst spurs players I've ever seen. Can anyone honestly name a single thing he provides the spurs with other than 6 fouls to give?

Haven't seen anyone this bad since Udokas final year here

[Drom John]

Spurs worse than Ayres

Bonner
De Colo as a Spur
Baynes
Jeffers
Thomas
Brown


As an NBA player:
211T
Quincy Acy
Jeff Ayres
Jerryd Bayless
Norris Cole
Tyreke Evans
Hollis Thompson
Louis Williams

Bottom fourteen:
458 Tony Wroten
455T Tyshawn Taylor
Gal Mekel
John Lucas
452T Marquis Teague
Dennis Schroeder
Anthony Bennett
445T Jamaal Tinsley
Jeff Taylor
Peyton Siva
Phil Pressey
Nemanja Nedovic
Ben Gordon
Kobe Bryant

[Cry Havoc]

Ayres is horrible for the minutes he gets, but he's not a completely worthless player. He has good moments on d and has learned to make good cuts to the hoop. That's literally it, though, everything else is so far below NBA sea-level that it's a wonder he's playing for a good team.

[jeebus]

has learned to make good cuts to the hoop.
The only reason why he makes those cuts is because his man has to cover Mills or Manu or whoever Ayres sets the screen for. That leaves him wide open in the lane, which may or may not lead to an easy layup or dunk. It's a simple move and it's so easy, a caveman could do it.

Take away that one simple move and you got a monkey trying to fuck a football.

[Cry Havoc]

The only reason why he makes those cuts is because his man has to cover Mills or Manu or whoever Ayres sets the screen for. That leaves him wide open in the lane, which may or may not lead to an easy layup or dunk. It's a simple move and it's so easy, a caveman could do it.

Take away that one simple move and you got a monkey trying to fuck a football.

Honestly, points are points. I don't care how easy they are to get, if the guy goes out and gets them I'm happy.

[jeebus]

Honestly, points are points. I don't care how easy they are to get, if the guy goes out and gets them I'm happy.
He has 162 points this season. He also has 110 fouls.

He's not doing a very good job, unless you're comparing him to Kendrick Porkins.

[Cry Havoc]

He has 162 points this season. He also has 110 fouls.

He's not doing a very good job, unless you're comparing him to Kendrick Porkins.

I said he's a horrible player. Just not completely worthless like some people say he is. But he's toeing that line. :lol

[jeebus]

I said he's a horrible player. Just not completely worthless like some people say he is. But he's toeing that line. :lol
well imo he's already so far past the line, he's going where no man has gone before.


when will he pass your version of the line?

[Cry Havoc]

well imo he's already so far past the line, he's going where no man has gone before.


when will he pass your version of the line?

When he stops playing occasionally decent defense. Considering Tiago's been hurt, he's been one of our better bigs as far as defense goes. He's a lot more mobile than Baynes and can stay in front of the guys he guards. Obviously nowhere near Duncan or Diaw level of effectiveness but we don't have any other options at the moment until the team is at full strength.

I don't want him to see a single minute of playoff time though, but I'd rather see him on the court in the 4th when we're up 15-20 than Duncan logging 36+ minutes.

[james evans]

no,that's Thabeet. he's worse than bonner and ayres.

[hater]

as much as Ayres sucks, Ayres in clown shoes >>>> more mobile than masked Bonner

it's like the mask weighs 100 pounds, Matt can't even turn his head. nigga has to turn his whole body to see what's going on :lol

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

Hes in the Top 3 tbh
( worst player list )

[Dverde]

I wouldn't say the worse. I would say bottom 30 of all NBA. Ayres at least hustles up and down the court and has good size for his position. He is the worse player on the Spurs. Bonner is close, but that is only because every player in the NBA wants to show up or dunk on a red head white boy. They literally see red when they see Bonner. If Ayres was white and had red hair, he would be the worst NBA player.

[Splits]

This faggot got a DNP tonight. Sign of things to come?

[anakha]

Not while players like Mullens are around.

[Budkin]

This faggot got a DNP tonight. Sign of things to come?

Let us hope.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Short answer: yes

Long answer: hell fucking yes

[Budkin]

Short answer: yes

Long answer: hell fucking yes

:lmao

[cd021]

Shocking, no one has mentioned Perkins having his worst season in years.

20 MPG
P.E.R of 6.1
Net rating - -17
Turnover %-30%
Usage Rating-11.8%

Okc would kill to swap Perkins out for Ayers.

[TheGoldStandard]

Arizona State University should be ashamed to have given this shithole a scholarship. It boggles the mind that he was taken 31st overall in the 2nd round.

[Sean Cagney]

no,that's Thabeet. he's worse than bonner and ayres.
I forgot all about that bum! He was drafted high too.

[Sean Cagney]

Shocking, no one has mentioned Perkins having his worst season in years.

20 MPG
P.E.R of 6.1
Net rating - -17
Turnover %-30%
Usage Rating-11.8%

Okc would kill to swap Perkins out for Ayers.

If you would kill to ship a guy out for Ayres you know that player is absolutely HORRIBLE, beyond BELIEF BAD.

[Bill_Brasky]

Just another guy that wows coaches in practice with a great vertical and speed for his size but has zero actual basketball skill. This motherfucker can't catch a ball. Which would be fine if he wasn't such a weak bitch defending the post. Considering the contract we gave him......yeah, this dude is probably the worst.

[Budkin]

Just another guy that wows coaches in practice with a great vertical and speed for his size but has zero actual basketball skill. This motherfucker can't catch a ball. Which would be fine if he wasn't such a weak bitch defending the post. Considering the contract we gave him......yeah, this dude is probably the worst.

My brain can't process how it is possible to be a professional in a league where you pass a ball around but yet you can't catch a ball.

[KaiRMD1]

I still don't understand how the Spurs could be stupid enough to keep this guy under contract. The ol' sport is pound for pound the worst basketball player I've seen

[superbigtime]

He stunk it up last night. Splitter had a very forgetful game too.

[Budkin]

What a fucking waste of a roster spot. We needed someone who could defend and rebound in the playoffs and instead we got a guy who wouldn't even start in an intramurals league.

[monkeypunk]

He's a decent defender and rebounder but that is it. He sets good screens but is lost after, rolling to the basket every time no matter how packed the lane is. And obviously he can't catch a fucking cold to save his life.

He used to have a little mid range shot til Pop tore his heart out, lol. Honestly, he could learn a lot from Oberto who would roll right to any open spot on the floor. I know Ayres doesn't have the IQ for it but if he could pick up the basic concept and believe in his shot again, he might actually produce.... something.

[DapDaGenius]

I still don't understand how the Spurs could be stupid enough to keep this guy under contract. The ol' sport is pound for pound the worst basketball player I've seen

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[Vic Petro]

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[BatManu20]

#1 overall pick. What a legend

[loveforthegame]

Must be slim pickings this year. :lol

[Russ]

He did his best.

And continues to do so.

So how bout you?

[Gladney to see you]

I like him but he isn't great.

[cjw]

Jimmer went #2. Shows how worthless he is considering Ayres went first.

And the guy the Thunder thought was the future, Perry Jones, went third.

[Gladney to see you]

Somebody from this years draft will make the nba again. I'm sure there were reason other than the NBA as to why certain players are picked.