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JohnnyMax
01-30-2014, 01:16 AM
''When he's out, we have a more balanced attack,''....''We run our sets and get the best shot available. When he's not there, we don't go one-on-one as much."

- Chandler Parsons

TDMVPDPOY
01-30-2014, 01:27 AM
''When he's out, we have a more balanced attack,''....''We run our sets and get the best shot available. When he's not there, we don't go one-on-one as much."

- Chandler Parsons

td said something like that to enrique 2 weeks ago, then he return to being enrique cause it was hurting his stats

sook
01-30-2014, 01:32 AM
taken out of context and not a big deal. Watch the interview, he meant to say they had to move the ball around more because Harden makes it easier for everybody. Parsons and Harden are tight.

ElNono
01-30-2014, 01:38 AM
MVParsons has spoken, tbh

Indazone
01-30-2014, 01:44 AM
It's what I have been saying all along, team plays better without Harden. It's all iso-ball no defense Harden when he is in the game.

Rogue
01-30-2014, 01:58 AM
beard nigga is no more than a decent 6th man for a contender imho, superb scoring ability but no defense.

Indazone
01-30-2014, 02:03 AM
Parson's is the real leader of the Rockets!

sook
01-30-2014, 02:49 AM
Parson's is the real leader of the Rockets!

He's white. All our other players are black. I think Parsons is the leader, but he is a minority in our starting 5. Gotta add some more vanilla, tbh.

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 07:48 AM
It's what I have been saying all along, team plays better without Harden. It's all iso-ball no defense Harden when he is in the game.
It's funny that you bring up how McGrady would kill it with this team, when the rest of the team stood around not moving watching T-Mac hold the ball just like they do with Harden. Harden holds the ball the least amount of time per possession. When he is in, he plays PG and that is by design. Either Beverley or Lin is in the SG role, and that is coaching. When Harden is out, the team has to move the ball to get easy shots because without Harden there to create, it isn't as easy. Watch the games and stop being an idiot. The entire team goes one-on-one alot, not just Harden. Also, the entire team goes one-on-one because Beverley can't penetrate and create like Lin can.

313
01-30-2014, 08:38 AM
beard nigga is no more than a decent 6th man for a contender imho, superb scoring ability but no defense.he should have stayed in his cuckold role in OKC. It was his best shot at a ring tbh.

Koolaid_Man
01-30-2014, 08:43 AM
beard nigga is no more than a decent 6th man for a contender imho, superb scoring ability but no defense.

he couldn't even beat out a one legged Kobe for the ASG :lmao

Indazone
01-30-2014, 11:11 AM
T-Mac would run circles around Harden. Even Kobe said that T-Mac in his prime was his toughest defensive assignment. T-Mac didn't just penetrate, he could hit the three, and would dish out assists like candy. T-Mac was a triple double threat everytime he stepped on the court. Harden, not so much. Iso-ball and Eurostep and he doesn't know how to pass unless there are three seconds left on the clock and he's in trouble. Then he'll pass it to a team mate for a last second low percentage shot. Bill Worrell: "Without Harden, the Rockets are an efficient machine."

Thread
01-30-2014, 11:23 AM
To denigrate Harden like this is a defensive mechanism in the PROBABLE event that the Rockets don't ring this June. It's stupid & childish. And when you guys do this type of shit I could just drive to Mesa and shoot a dog.

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 11:23 AM
T-Mac would run circles around Harden. Even Kobe said that T-Mac in his prime was his toughest defensive assignment. T-Mac didn't just penetrate, he could hit the three, and would dish out assists like candy. T-Mac was a triple double threat everytime he stepped on the court. Harden, not so much. Iso-ball and Eurostep and he doesn't know how to pass unless there are three seconds left on the clock and he's in trouble. Then he'll pass it to a team mate for a last second low percentage shot. Bill Worrell: "Without Harden, the Rockets are an efficient machine."

Rockets moved the ball better without T-Mac too. Why is that?

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 11:24 AM
To denigrate Harden like this is a defensive mechanism in the PROBABLE event that the Rockets don't ring this June. It's stupid & childish. And when you guys do this type of shit I could just drive to Mesa and shoot a dog.
Don't mind Indazone. He was a Kevin Martin fan for Christ sake.

Thread
01-30-2014, 11:26 AM
Don't mind Indazone. He was a Kevin Martin fan for Christ sake.

Well, God bless him. He's adorable in his new found winning ways. He's giddy and a bit out of control. I forgive him.

Indazone
01-30-2014, 11:27 AM
Harden can be a great player if he plays within the system. Oh and learn to play on both sides of the ball. It's not that he can't play defense. He just wont.

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 11:31 AM
Harden can be a great player if he plays within the system. Oh and learn to play on both sides of the ball. It's not that he can't play defense. He just wont.

What system? Do you know why guys stand around on offense when Harden has the ball or why the ball doesn't move?

Indazone
01-30-2014, 11:44 AM
Everyone gets it except you DJohn. Parson's is calling Harden out and Howard said as much a few weeks ago. Gee, I wonder who he was talking about? I'm not saying Harden isn't a great player. He is. he could be better.


Dwight Howard Calls Rockets’ Effort in Loss ‘Piss Poor’


Following a 97-88 home loss to the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday night, Houston Rockets center Dwight Howard blasted (http://www.csnhouston.com/basketball-houston-rockets/talk/howard-not-happy-teams-effort) his team’s effort (or lack thereof (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/12/05/howard-says-rockets-lacking-effort/?ls=iref:nbahpts)) in comments to the media. Per CSN Houston and NBA.com: “Despite having their worst-shooting performance of the season and committing 23 turnovers, Howard was more displeased about the effort he saw from his team. ‘It was piss-poor effort out there on defense and offense,’ Dwight Howard said. ‘The ball stuck tonight and we didn’t move it and we can’t win that way. They just played harder than us. It’s got to be important for guys to come out and play the same way every night. Guys have to come out and play, no matter how many guys are out. (Guys need) to play as hard as you can and trust the next guy to come in and play the same way. They outworked us.’ In the ultra-competitive western conference, where every team but Minnesota (9-10), Sacramento (4-12) and Utah (4-16) is at or above .500, Howard is well-aware that losses like the last two must be avoided. ‘We can’t give away games like this, it’ll come back and bite us later on in the season,’ Howard said. ‘We have to learn that no matter how guys we have out there, shorthanded and all, we have to play the same way. Play hard and play aggressive. We know what we need to do, if we don’t do it, we’re going to continue to lose.’ [...] It is only the second time this season that the Rockets have lost back-to-back games and, at 13-7, they are still the No. 5 seed in the Western Conference. So it was less a blaring alarm bell than a humming undercurrent reminder that a wannabe playoff contender needs more than summertime signings and headlines to turn into the real thing.”

Clipper Nation
01-30-2014, 11:46 AM
Harden is a heroball no-defense chucker, end of story....

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 11:50 AM
Everyone gets it except you DJohn. Parson's is calling Harden out and Howard said as much a few weeks ago. Gee, I wonder who he was talking about? I'm not saying Harden isn't a great player. He is. he could be better.


Dwight Howard Calls Rockets’ Effort in Loss ‘Piss Poor’




Following a 97-88 home loss to the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday night, Houston Rockets center Dwight Howard blasted (http://www.csnhouston.com/basketball-houston-rockets/talk/howard-not-happy-teams-effort) his team’s effort (or lack thereof (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/12/05/howard-says-rockets-lacking-effort/?ls=iref:nbahpts)) in comments to the media. Per CSN Houston and NBA.com: “Despite having their worst-shooting performance of the season and committing 23 turnovers, Howard was more displeased about the effort he saw from his team. ‘It was piss-poor effort out there on defense and offense,’ Dwight Howard said. ‘The ball stuck tonight and we didn’t move it and we can’t win that way. They just played harder than us. It’s got to be important for guys to come out and play the same way every night. Guys have to come out and play, no matter how many guys are out. (Guys need) to play as hard as you can and trust the next guy to come in and play the same way. They outworked us.’ In the ultra-competitive western conference, where every team but Minnesota (9-10), Sacramento (4-12) and Utah (4-16) is at or above .500, Howard is well-aware that losses like the last two must be avoided. ‘We can’t give away games like this, it’ll come back and bite us later on in the season,’ Howard said. ‘We have to learn that no matter how guys we have out there, shorthanded and all, we have to play the same way. Play hard and play aggressive. We know what we need to do, if we don’t do it, we’re going to continue to lose.’ [...] It is only the second time this season that the Rockets have lost back-to-back games and, at 13-7, they are still the No. 5 seed in the Western Conference. So it was less a blaring alarm bell than a humming undercurrent reminder that a wannabe playoff contender needs more than summertime signings and headlines to turn into the real thing.”

No dumbass. Parsons is calling the team out for not being aggressive enough to move the ball with Harden in, they all just stand around and watch Harden instead of cutting. Also, Because Beverley is not a starter. The team runs better when Lin is aggressive, running the PnR, and not playing like a pussy. Harden has the ball and everyone stands around, not making any cuts. He is also most efficient at getting Howard the ball in the post, the entire team sucks at making entry passes but Beverley is hands down the worst at it (Your starting Point Guard should not suck at passing ) and it's the same thing there. Dwight gets the ball, no one is making any cuts. Only when Harden is out, the team is forced to be aggressive and move the ball, that's a coaching problem. Harden's problem on offense is not moving after he passes the ball, like making cuts. Which is why guys need to be active and not defer to him all the time.

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 11:50 AM
Harden is a heroball no-defense chucker, end of story....
False.

whitemamba
01-30-2014, 01:01 PM
Harden is a heroball no-defense chucker, end of story....

If freethrows make make up your PPG, are you still considered a chucker?

Clipper Nation
01-30-2014, 01:04 PM
If freethrows make make up your PPG, are you still considered a chucker?
:lol Good point, but in the 2% of game time where he's not collecting foodstamps, he's heroballing and chucking....

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-30-2014, 01:07 PM
:lol Good point, but in the 2% of game time where he's not collecting foodstamps, he's heroballing and chucking....

Harden is one of the best pure shooters... but it's sad to see how much of his game relies on freebies.

whitemamba
01-30-2014, 01:07 PM
:lol Good point, but in the 2% of game time where he's not collecting foodstamps, he's heroballing and chucking....

He was better as a 6th man tbh, he could get away with all of that, lets not his forget his defense too.... http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/11/08/2013-11-0814_26_00.gif

Sportstudi
01-30-2014, 01:17 PM
False.

Harden is a chucker. So far in his career he's had ONE single season shooting over 45%. That's horribly inefficient, fact. If you consider the amount of shots he's taking that's nothing else than chucking galore. It's really a shame how much his game is relying on FT's, respectively on refs reacting to his flopping. Yeah, I know, Durant is leading the league in FT's, but at least he's able to shoot over 50%.

Thread
01-30-2014, 01:24 PM
^45% is fine for a "chucker" as you refer to him. For whatever reason he's grandfathered in on this FT allotment and that is something that cannot be appreciated enough.

Sportstudi
01-30-2014, 01:24 PM
He was better as a 6th man tbh, he could get away with all of that, lets not his forget his defense too.... http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/11/08/2013-11-0814_26_00.gif

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/820467449.gif?1383933164

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 02:04 PM
Harden is a chucker. So far in his career he's had ONE single season shooting over 45%. That's horribly inefficient, fact. If you consider the amount of shots he's taking that's nothing else than chucking galore. It's really a shame how much his game is relying on FT's, respectively on refs reacting to his flopping. Yeah, I know, Durant is leading the league in FT's, but at least he's able to shoot over 50%.
He's started one and a half seasons so far.

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 02:04 PM
:lol Good point, but in the 2% of game time where he's not collecting foodstamps, he's heroballing and chucking....
If he is heroballing, Who is he taking shots away from? No one has answered that. Also most of his shots are attempted inside the 3, unlike Curry who does nothing but chuck.

sook
01-30-2014, 02:24 PM
fucking retards don't even know the context/ the question that was asked. Continue your ignorance, I'm not going to waste my time copying and pasting it. :lol

djohn2oo8
01-30-2014, 02:26 PM
fucking retards don't even know the context/ the question that was asked. Continue your ignorance, I'm not going to waste my time copying and pasting it. :lol
Sook, bullying niggas in da paint.

DMC
01-30-2014, 02:57 PM
To denigrate Harden like this is a defensive mechanism in the PROBABLE event that the Rockets don't ring this June. It's stupid & childish. And when you guys do this type of shit I could just drive to Mesa and shoot a dog.

Like you and Kobeta.

Rogue
01-30-2014, 07:18 PM
he couldn't even beat out a one legged Kobe for the ASG :lmao
If they could operate a skin transplantation between him and Rin, which would also mean removing his beard and transplanting it to Rin, then Harden would've beaten Kobe by a landslide imho.

DMC
01-30-2014, 07:32 PM
he couldn't even beat out a one legged Kobe for the ASG :lmao

Yet he'll log more minutes than Kobe.

lefty
01-30-2014, 08:43 PM
meh he's not really calling out Harden

McHale is an idiot who runs isosama plays everytime Harden is on the floor

Rogue
01-30-2014, 10:06 PM
^ agree, playing iso-O ain't Harden's fault when the coach has zero offensive strategy or playbook. The true problem with beard nigga is he doesn't ever bother to play more defense than Steve Nash plays. His skin and beard would feel ashamed of his softness tbh, if they had life.

djohn2oo8
01-31-2014, 03:11 PM
^ agree, playing iso-O ain't Harden's fault when the coach has zero offensive strategy or playbook. The true problem with beard nigga is he doesn't ever bother to play more defense than Steve Nash plays. His skin and beard would feel ashamed of his softness tbh, if they had life.
Not playing D isn't his only problem. Playing off the ball when he doesn't possess it is his problem, that and passing it off at the last second. But yea Iso-O isn't his fault.

DAF86
01-31-2014, 08:45 PM
Harden has regressed quite a bit. I remember he always used to wait for a pick to attack now he goes one on one most of the time.

Reck
01-31-2014, 08:49 PM
he should have stayed in his cuckold role in OKC. It was his best shot at a ring tbh.

This is a money league.

For most, championships are a side desert.

djohn2oo8
01-31-2014, 09:56 PM
Oh and Asik can go eat a bag of Mitchell's dildos.