RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

[DPG21920]

Reports he was found dead in apartment.

[ChumpDumper]

Reports where?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Can't mix a bad diet with drug use...pick one or the other

[ace3g]

WSJ.com

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_h8ksmXUg

[DeadlyDynasty]

confirmed hoax:rollin

I love the people that do this...it's always somebody on the fringe that is very believable:lol

[RD2191]

Who said it's a hoax?

[benefactor]

http://nypost.com/2014/02/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-found-dead-in-his-apartment/

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://en.mediamass.net/people/philip-seymour-hoffman/deathhoax.html

[ace3g]

looks like they found a needle in his arm

[TE]

I don't know what to believe, tbh ..

[benefactor]

Wait...so he had a death hoax too like Paul Walker and then died? Wow, that's some scary shit.

[DeadlyDynasty]

He's in 2Pac and Bin Laden purgatory right now

[benefactor]

He's dead. Several New York outlets are reporting it now.

[RD2191]

I think it's true.

[RD2191]

DD is an idiot.

[DeadlyDynasty]

DD is an idiot.
and you're a mexican

[ColinB]

mediamass.net vs sources like the WSJ and the NY Post.

:lol

[DPG21920]

DPG has sources. I don't start hoax threads.

[RD2191]

mediamass.net vs sources like the WSJ and the NY Post.

:lol
:lol

[jeebus]

and you're a mexican
winner

[RD2191]

and you're a mexican
I'm not but I don't mind being called Mexican.

[AchillesHeel]

And this is why I only smoke weed.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Weed's not enough when you're in the limelight

[Proxy]

fuck:(

[DeadlyDynasty]

I want them to produce a bloated corpse for confirmation. I'll need to see your papers for confirmation too, Roberto

[hehateme]

cnn picked it up now..back to the red wings game though per the par.

[jeebus]

Paul Walker had the bigger impact on me tbh.

but DD is right. We need the Chris Farley, rosary holding, foam bubbling-type photos to confirm.

[gameFACE]

Damn, I've been a fan of his for a while. Just saw The Master last month. RIP.

[jeebus]

His best role was Dusty in Twister. It's been downhill for him ever since.

[gameFACE]

Naw, he stepped it up as the years went by. Who's Paul Walker?

[TE]

His best role was Dusty in Twister. It's been downhill for him ever since.
:loltbh, that's all I remember him by. His performance was great in that movie.

[Proxy]

He was flawless in The Master

[Floyd Pacquiao]

paul walker's death>

[DeadlyDynasty]

He was flawless in The Master
I see what you did there.

[jeebus]

:loltbh, that's all I remember him by. His performance was great in that movie.

He was decent in Lebowski but yeah, Twister is where it's at. I mean, how can you even compare anything to lines like this?

"He's gonna rue the day he came up against The Extreme, baby. Bill, I'm talkin' imminent rueage."

[DeadlyDynasty]

:loltbh, that's all I remember him by. His performance was great in that movie.
Red meat, we crave sustinence...Fu-ood. Fooooooood.

Greatest line in film history

[loveforthegame]

Terrible news. RIP.

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE2-y1vz1Nw

[Biernutz]

He had some good roles. He was also a long time abuser. Was in and out of rehab......

[Trainwreck2100]

rip chipotle

[Floyd Pacquiao]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3IiDBEOOcE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[jeebus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3IiDBEOOcE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
just your average day in the life of caprisun_man.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Dude was talented though...he could pull off the douchey characters (Capote, Talented Mr. Ripley, Scent of a Woman), and make dogshit movies better with his presence (Punch Drunk Love, Charlie Wilson's War)

[Spur|n|Austin]

Sucks, he was a great talent. I'd say was one of the top 10 actors out there.

[Mugen]

I was a fan. Sad to lose one of the few actors who doesn't just play himself in a movie tbh.

[Fabbs]

Doubt the movie where Hoffman played a Catholic priest.

Was the heavy implication that he did molest, just like many real life Catholic priests do?
Or was the implication that he was innocent?

[monosylab1k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3IiDBEOOcE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

:lmao i got a couple trolls banned for spamming the forum with that video. Although originally i wanted to use the one of Dylan Baker jerking off to a kiddie magazine.

[RsxPiimp]

This is sad news. Philip Seymour Hoffman is one of the best actors of his generation. He will be missed.

[monosylab1k]

Another PSH career highlighy: seeing his pasty white ass jiggle as he banged Marisa Tomei in Before The Devil Knows You're Dead.

[monosylab1k]

pt anderson's muse tbh, it really sucks that he's gone

[SupremeGuy]

Damn, that sucks. He was a good actor. RIP

[timtonymanu]

Dude was talented though...he could pull off the douchey characters (Capote, Talented Mr. Ripley, Scent of a Woman), and make dogshit movies better with his presence (Punch Drunk Love, Charlie Wilson's War)

You forgot Along Came Polly. That movie was total shit except for him.

[lil'mo]

His best role was Dusty in Twister. It's been downhill for him ever since.

you're a schmuck

[jeebus]

you're a schmuck
at least I didn't kill myself via overdose like some faggots.

[baseline bum]

Scotty J never got his wish :cry

LTMYcSU_HCc

[Trill Clinton]

can't muster up not even an ounce of fake sympathy for a junkie. fuck emhttp://i62.tinypic.com/2rm4nyc.png

[lil'mo]

No love for PSH in BOOGIE NIGHTS?


/LTMYcSU_HCc?rel=0

[lil'mo]

damn you baseline bum

[DPG21920]

I actually agree with Trill. I know things can be tough, but people who are too mentally weak to overcome drugs get little sympathy from me. I feel bad people die in general, but I don't get addiction. Especially since it's a choice.

[The Reckoning]

dying young is always a good career move in the movie biz

[George Gervin's Afro]

Really liked the guy....

[lil'mo]

at least I didn't kill myself via overdose like some faggots.

at least you can admit you're a schmuck

[monosylab1k]

can't muster up not even an ounce of fake sympathy for a junkie. fuck emhttp://i62.tinypic.com/2rm4nyc.png

lol so if i do a forum search on Pimp C i'm going to see this same attitude in your posts?

[redzero]

I liked Punch-Drunk Love.

[redzero]

I'm a fucking idiot! I'm a fucking idiot! I'm a fucking idiot! I'm a fucking idiot! I'm a fucking idiot! I'm a fucking idiot!

[sook]

Good actor, but sorry I don't think I can shed any sympathy. At least his last moments were in a heroin orgasmic bliss right before respiratory depression caused him to stop breathing.

[Reck]

Wow I'm shocked.

RIP. Gone too soon.

[McGusto55]

Dropping rain....lol

[CuckingFunt]

I actually agree with Trill. I know things can be tough, but people who are too mentally weak to overcome drugs get little sympathy from me. I feel bad people die in general, but I don't get addiction. Especially since it's a choice.

He'd been clean for over 20 years. Fell off the wagon last year and went back to rehab to get sober again. I've no intention of absolving him of any personal responsibility, but it's not as if the guy wasn't trying to overcome his addiction.

[CuckingFunt]

As a fan of cinema, though, this is a huge loss. He was one of the more impressive talents of the last couple decades.

[Reck]

He'd been clean for over 20 years. Fell off the wagon last year and went back to rehab to get sober again. I've no intention of absolving him of any personal responsibility, but it's not as if the guy wasn't trying to overcome his addiction.

I like how people shrug addictions off as being weak or whatever. First there is always a reason why people go to drugs and second, once you're addicted to something its hard not to get back to it.

Alot of judgemental and try hards people in here.

[DPG21920]

Please. Your are rich, talented & all best treatments at your disposal. No excuses. Drugs, even with a pre-disposition to be addicted, are a choice.

[Thread]

^Deeps.

---------

Hoffman was choice in "Boogie Nights" & added some outside edge to "Scent of a Woman."

[Rogue]

another brilliant New Yorker whom God loved too much to wait any longer before calling him up to the Heaven, RIP

And he died in Greenwich village - the hood our goddess grew up in... Hoffman is double blessed by both God and Goddess, imho.

[redzero]

vBoIPm5vEX4

Wow, both of these guys died.

[Jacob1983]

He was always getting praises for his dramatic roles but he was underated in comedic roles. He was hilarious in Along Came Polly, Punch Drunk Love, and Flawless. So sad that he went out the way he did. Got to stay away from that shit.

[Proxy]

Please. Your are rich, talented & all best treatments at your disposal. No excuses. Drugs, even with a pre-disposition to be addicted, are a choice.

A bit apathetic there. Everybody is dealt different cards.

[DMC]

Heroin junkie. Death suits him.

[IronMaxipad]

Dude was talented though...he could pull off the douchey characters (Capote, Talented Mr. Ripley, Scent of a Woman), and make dogshit movies better with his presence (Punch Drunk Love, Charlie Wilson's War)
Dafuq?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0a3fg-fUWdw/T3On8vGgmVI/AAAAAAAAA4A/PJg-1gRMH5Y/s1600/bunk-the-wire.gif

[RGMCSE]

As a fan of cinema, though, this is a huge loss. He was one of the more impressive talents of the last couple decades.


rRQijskAMp4

[mrsmaalox]

How sad. I'm actually feeling terrible for what we are going to miss from him. I can't even begin to try to figure which of his performances was my favorite. RIP PSH

[spurs10]

A tragic loss to the world and a devastating loss to his children, wife, and family.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Was he working on any projects, or was he on a prolonged hiatus of some sort? You can't mess around with certain things unless you either have self-discipline, or a work schedule that allows/allocates times for you to smoke/snort/shoot whatever to your hearts content. 4 years ago I worked what was a Kelly-24 schedule. Basically, it was 24 hrs: on/off/on/off/on/4 days off/rinse-repeat. Four straight days off allows you play around with some strong shit, and Dilaudid was the sweetest goddamn feeling in the world. Had a friend of friend who was getting a steady supply of 4mg pills. You don't know true, unfettered bliss till you've felt that racing through your veins or blowing it straight to the dome--I promise you that. There was control though, because I know I had to feel clean for at least 36 hours (prior to returning from my 4-day to feel detox'd and with it, and I wasn't binging on it for 2.5 days straight either. Come home at the end of the 3rd 24, kick my feet up, spike up, and watch sportscenter reruns from 8a-noon. There was structure and boundaries, and other than that shit I had a good diet and worked out regularly. Later on the supply ran out and literally nothing changed since I technically never had the "hook." Looking back, it was retarded--but hey, at least I never smoked crack or meth!, and I had no mistake sprog like certain other opiate-seeking posters here. I'd still dabble in yayo every now and then but I eat right and cheat maybe 3 times/month.

This is the truest cliche you'll ever hear: "Work hard, play hard." Never is that more evident than in a life of celebrity or luxury, where you have means and access coupled with high-stress/profile deadline assignments. To be fair, I don't think I could ever take massive amounts of blow and pills a la Jordan Belfort. Btw, anybody live through that era or know somebody who could handle actually handle that much blow and pills every night? Seems unfathomable to me, and I've seen some legends:lol

Everybody needs their outlet, though...be it booze, coke, whores, pills, gambling, religion, whatever. Some might just want a cat and a 6/10 gf to fuck (you know, where she's passable/cute enough but not worth your full attention).

Whatever your poison, stay active and regimented--even moreso if you're getting into the heavy shit. Maybe PSH was idle for too long or worked too hard, but you can't beat up your body in multiple ways like he did (diet, opiates).

RIP

[DeadlyDynasty]

Dafuq?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0a3fg-fUWdw/T3On8vGgmVI/AAAAAAAAA4A/PJg-1gRMH5Y/s1600/bunk-the-wire.gif
It's hard to watch Adam Sandler try to step outside himself, but that's just a matter of personal preference I guess.

[HarlemHeat37]

Was he working on any projects, or was he on a prolonged hiatus of some sort? You can't mess around with certain things unless you either have self-discipline, or a work schedule that allows/allocates times for you to smoke/snort/shoot whatever to your hearts content. 4 years ago I worked what was a Kelly-24 schedule. Basically, it was 24 hrs: on/off/on/off/on/4 days off/rinse-repeat. Four straight days off allows you play around with some strong shit, and Dilaudid was the sweetest goddamn feeling in the world. Had a friend of friend who was getting a steady supply of 4mg pills. You don't know true, unfettered bliss till you've felt that racing through your veins or blowing it straight to the dome--I promise you that. There was control though, because I know I had to feel clean for at least 36 hours (prior to returning from my 4-day to feel detox'd and with it, and I wasn't binging on it for 2.5 days straight either. Come home at the end of the 3rd 24, kick my feet up, spike up, and watch sportscenter reruns from 8a-noon. There was structure and boundaries, and other than that shit I had a good diet and worked out regularly. Later on the supply ran out and literally nothing changed since I technically never had the "hook." Looking back, it was retarded--but hey, at least I never smoked crack or meth!, and I had no mistake sprog like certain other opiate-seeking posters here. I'd still dabble in yayo every now and then but I eat right and cheat maybe 3 times/month.

This is the truest cliche you'll ever hear: "Work hard, play hard." Never is that more evident than in a life of celebrity or luxury, where you have means and access coupled with high-stress/profile deadline assignments. To be fair, I don't think I could ever take massive amounts of blow and pills a la Jordan Belfort. Btw, anybody live through that era or know somebody who could handle actually handle that much blow and pills every night? Seems unfathomable to me, and I've seen some legends:lol

Everybody needs their outlet, though...be it booze, coke, whores, pills, gambling, religion, whatever. Some might just want a cat and a 6/10 gf to fuck (you know, where she's passable/cute enough but not worth your full attention).

Whatever your poison, stay active and regimented--even moreso if you're getting into the heavy shit. Maybe PSH was idle for too long or worked too hard, but you can't beat up your body in multiple ways like he did (diet, opiates).

RIP

:lol Fuzzy or No Lyfe?..

[DPG21920]

A bit apathetic there. Everybody is dealt different cards.

Sure. Some people have it way harder than others. Make good choices. Despite your circumstances make good choices. You don't get two lives. You get this one and you are responsible, no matter how difficult, for the choices you make. It's not that I won't root for people to get better, but if you die from your decisions, especially one as stupid as drugs, I have a hard time feeling a ton of sympathy.

[CuckingFunt]

Was he working on any projects, or was he on a prolonged hiatus of some sort?

Apparently he just had two upcoming films screened at Sundance and he had about a week worth of filming left on the final two Hunger Games movies. It's my understanding that between film and stage he's been working pretty much nonstop since graduating NYU.

[UZER]

This dude had some acting range. I never felt like I was just watching PSH everytime on screen.

[Rogue]

heroin ain't no joke because it really kills. Abusive lifestyle ain't only the problem of one person or two, but a national issue. Just because you do it to a less excessive degree it doesn't mean your lifestyle is absolutely right. People smoke cigarettes pack after pack, sometimes even weed, and drink liquor like water and get drunk as shit etc... I believe that everyone in the modern industrial world, if taking good care of himself/herself, can easily live past their 100th birthdays. But too many people would rather trade decades of lifetime for some more fun in their youth, they try every means to abuse their lives because they think "life is short".

[DMC]

heroin ain't no joke because it really kills. Abusive lifestyle ain't only the problem of one person or two, but a national issue. Just because you do it to a less excessive degree it doesn't mean your lifestyle is absolutely right. People smoke cigarettes pack after pack, sometimes even weed, and drink liquor like water and get drunk as shit etc... I believe that everyone in the modern industrial world, if taking good care of himself/herself, can easily live past their 100th birthdays. But too many people would rather trade decades of lifetime for some more fun in their youth, they try every means to abuse their lives because they think "life is short".

Well it's technically not true. Genetics play a role in our lifespans regardless of how well we take care of our bodies. There are children in hospitals right now that did nothing wrong to their bodies and won't live to see tomorrow because of genetic anomalies. Then you have some fat ass like Hoffman who, though he was great at his job, was a pig obviously who felt it was worth it to risk death even though he has little ones and a family because boo fucking hoo he has to make millions being a movie star.

[Xevious]

Fuck him. Nobody mourns the local junkies that OD. So I don't give a shit about this guy who had the money and resourses to change his life.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Fuck him. Nobody mourns the local junkies that OD. So I don't give a shit about this guy who had the money and resourses to change his life.

Your local junkie friends are academy award winners?

[Rogue]

Well it's technically not true. Genetics play a role in our lifespans regardless of how well we take care of our bodies. There are children in hospitals right now that did nothing wrong to their bodies and won't live to see tomorrow because of genetic anomalies. Then you have some fat ass like Hoffman who, though he was great at his job, was a pig obviously who felt it was worth it to risk death even though he has little ones and a family because boo fucking hoo he has to make millions being a movie star.
Genetics play a significant role in our lifespans no doubt about it, but that's not an insurmountable obstacle imho. By "taking care of ourselves" I mean living a frugal celibate lifestyle, and that's the only possible way to achieve a long healthy life (even if not an eternal one). My dad has been an avid smoker since I knew him and he picked up the bad habit of alcohol abusing a few years ago, and he probably fucked random bitches while being married to my mom, but Rogue is a good man who'll never follow that type, I'm the exact opposite in some way. I've never smoked and will never do it, and last time I drank some alcohol was like 3 years ago, on the so-called "last dinner" among our undergraduate classmates before graduation, and I haven't put even a drip of alcoholic drink in my mouth ever since. And I've vowed to be a lifelong celibate and have never touched even a hand of bitch's.

Parents can be terrible role models sometimes (typical boomers, tbh), but fortunately I'm aware of it and have chosen someone else's lifestyle to follow - Zhang Sanfeng, an honorable and well-respected Taoist in ancient China who lived through 3 dynasties for a total of more than 160 years. No one even know when/where he died, or if he ever died at all... maybe he's still living a reclusive frugal life somewhere in China, tbh.

[Rogue]

Zhang Sanfeng was a legendary Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China) Taoist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism) priest who is believed by some to have achieved immortality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortality), said variously to date from either the late Song Dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Dynasty), Yuan Dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_Dynasty) or Ming Dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_Dynasty).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Sanfeng

[boutons_deux]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Seymour_Hoffman

[UZER]

I guess we won't Seymour hoffman

[RD2191]

I guess we won't Seymour hoffman

:lol

[SmacktheTrolls]

I guess we won't Seymour hoffman

RACK 'IM!!

[Proxy]

Sure. Some people have it way harder than others. Make good choices. Despite your circumstances make good choices. You don't get two lives. You get this one and you are responsible, no matter how difficult, for the choices you make. It's not that I won't root for people to get better, but if you die from your decisions, especially one as stupid as drugs, I have a hard time feeling a ton of sympathy.

I can relate to an abuser's desire for an escape, so I guess I always end up feeling for them because of it. Usually give them the benefit of the doubt, and figure things must be pretty screwed when heroin seems like the answer.

That being said, everything you're saying is right. There's selfishness in what transpired. He had kids and a family. Can't help be pissed off about that. There are better choices to be made. Can't argue that.

[DMC]

Genetics play a significant role in our lifespans no doubt about it, but that's not an insurmountable obstacle imho. By "taking care of ourselves" I mean living a frugal celibate lifestyle, and that's the only possible way to achieve a long healthy life (even if not an eternal one). My dad has been an avid smoker since I knew him and he picked up the bad habit of alcohol abusing a few years ago, and he probably fucked random bitches while being married to my mom, but Rogue is a good man who'll never follow that type, I'm the exact opposite in some way. I've never smoked and will never do it, and last time I drank some alcohol was like 3 years ago, on the so-called "last dinner" among our undergraduate classmates before graduation, and I haven't put even a drip of alcoholic drink in my mouth ever since. And I've vowed to be a lifelong celibate and have never touched even a hand of bitch's.

Parents can be terrible role models sometimes (typical boomers, tbh), but fortunately I'm aware of it and have chosen someone else's lifestyle to follow - Zhang Sanfeng, an honorable and well-respected Taoist in ancient China who lived through 3 dynasties for a total of more than 160 years. No one even know when/where he died, or if he ever died at all... maybe he's still living a reclusive frugal life somewhere in China, tbh.

I'd expect a disciplined, self regulated celibate like you to live a long time and you probably have good genetics as well since the Chinese have evolved through mass breeding and survival of the fittest without help from outside sources.

At the same time however, there are some insurmountable genetic issues. For example, a person born without t-cells has a bleak outlook. They can live in a contained environment but they tend to not do well down the line. Same is true for other deficiencies. Sure they can be dealt with if caught early enough but like the kid with rapid aging disease that died recently, he could not have had a 100 year life span no matter how he treated his body.

So those people like Hoffman who have everything and throw it away for a rush... fuck them. You have these little dudes trying to make it until tomorrow and then this millionaire blob offs himself like a street dweller.

[Rogue]

People born with genetic deficiency only accounts for a very small percentage of population and Hoffman doesn't seem to be one belonging in that group, fat dude just throw everything away like you said, his wealth, health etc... There are insurmountable genetic issues, no doubt, but they only afflict few people so that's rather irrelevant to what we're talking about here imho.

While gene also plays a role impacting one's lifespan, it is not the determining power, and I don't think it was the power of their superior genes that allowed the likes of Zhang Sanfeng and Laozi to live well past 100, even approaching 200. I bet no one from their families had ever lived that long, tbh, not even close.

[Proxy]

I'd expect a disciplined, self regulated celibate like you to live a long time and you probably have good genetics as well since the Chinese have evolved through mass breeding and survival of the fittest without help from outside sources.

At the same time however, there are some insurmountable genetic issues. For example, a person born without t-cells has a bleak outlook. They can live in a contained environment but they tend to not do well down the line. Same is true for other deficiencies. Sure they can be dealt with if caught early enough but like the kid with rapid aging disease that died recently, he could not have had a 100 year life span no matter how he treated his body.

So those people like Hoffman who have everything and throw it away for a rush... fuck them. You have these little dudes trying to make it until tomorrow and then this millionaire blob offs himself like a street dweller.

figure the best way to look objectively across social classes (up or down) is to keep Maslow's Pyramid in mind. Makes more sense to me than to deal judgement to a person (forget Hoffman, people in general) I'll never understand. People should to their best to empathize imo... but I understand that you're a pessimist, and that usually plays the odds well.

[DMC]

If the media and his fans are going to parade his death around looking for sympathy, they get what they get. My take is neither pessimistic nor judgmental. It's not like I showed up at his funeral with a picket line. The problem with the empathy thing (for me) is that I cannot relate, and a person cannot have empathy if they cannot relate. I've never killed myself or thrown my life away while having basically everything I ever wanted.

I can bend the truth a bit and pretend it's a tragedy, but it's not. Just another bloated dead corpse who just happened to make some films.

[DMC]

People born with genetic deficiency only accounts for a very small percentage of population and Hoffman doesn't seem to be one belonging in that group, fat dude just throw everything away like you said, his wealth, health etc... There are insurmountable genetic issues, no doubt, but they only afflict few people so that's rather irrelevant to what we're talking about here imho.

While gene also plays a role impacting one's lifespan, it is not the determining power, and I don't think it was the power of their superior genes that allowed the likes of Zhang Sanfeng and Laozi to live well past 100, even approaching 200. I bet no one from their families had ever lived that long, tbh, not even close.

Right but you said "everyone".

[HI-FI]

incredible actor. easily one of the best of his generation, i'm trying to think of better ones right now in their 40s and drawing a blank.

too bad, i agree that druggies die everyday and none of us give them a thread, but if you're into movies or storytelling, this guy brought the goods every time.

Rest in Peace.

[Xevious]

Your local junkie friends are academy award winners?

I have no junkie friends. But just because one is given a trophy for playing make believe doesn't mean he's any less a dipshit than some dude shooting up on the street corner.

[Proxy]

If the media and his fans are going to parade his death around looking for sympathy, they get what they get. My take is neither pessimistic nor judgmental. It's not like I showed up at his funeral with a picket line. The problem with the empathy thing (for me) is that I cannot relate, and a person cannot have empathy if they cannot relate. I've never killed myself or thrown my life away while having basically everything I ever wanted.

I can bend the truth a bit and pretend it's a tragedy, but it's not. Just another bloated dead corpse who just happened to make some films.

Tragedy is too far. Some people will talk this up just to hear themselves speak or sound intelligent. Saying he's just another carcass... won't agree, being a fan of his work. ... probably the only reason I care enough about his passing to speak about it. I like what Hi-Fi said. Yeah, he had everything we've all ever wanted... I guess not everything he ever wanted though and blahblahblah... moving on. moving on

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Genetics play a significant role in our lifespans no doubt about it, but that's not an insurmountable obstacle imho. By "taking care of ourselves" I mean living a frugal celibate lifestyle, and that's the only possible way to achieve a long healthy life (even if not an eternal one). My dad has been an avid smoker since I knew him and he picked up the bad habit of alcohol abusing a few years ago, and he probably fucked random bitches while being married to my mom, but Rogue is a good man who'll never follow that type, I'm the exact opposite in some way. I've never smoked and will never do it, and last time I drank some alcohol was like 3 years ago, on the so-called "last dinner" among our undergraduate classmates before graduation, and I haven't put even a drip of alcoholic drink in my mouth ever since. And I've vowed to be a lifelong celibate and have never touched even a hand of bitch's.

Parents can be terrible role models sometimes (typical boomers, tbh), but fortunately I'm aware of it and have chosen someone else's lifestyle to follow - Zhang Sanfeng, an honorable and well-respected Taoist in ancient China who lived through 3 dynasties for a total of more than 160 years. No one even know when/where he died, or if he ever died at all... maybe he's still living a reclusive frugal life somewhere in China, tbh.

You drink your own semen too?

[SAScrub]

Hollywood celebrates drug use, trivializes its effects, and enables each others addictions. Sadly, Philip Seymour Hoffman (and many others before him) is simply collateral damage to their self-indulgent culture.

[The Gemini Method]

His role in Capote and The Master were brilliant enough. Doubt was an interesting performance as well. Sad to see a talented but troubled actor go. I know there are some who don't have pity on an addict. That it is easy to pssssshaw the throes of addiction as a choice but sometimes it isn't even that. The rich are not inhuman nor are they exempt from the weaknesses and predilections that normal folks are. It's true that throwing away a life and riches is a shame and that the choices one makes is fuel for the no sympathy/told you so crowd but as someone who has worked with addicts and lost many a friend to addiction, it is harder than you think. That the need and cravings go beyond your average need, for say, a happy hour martini or that Newport to calm your nerves. The insatiable need is a demon to kick and to handle on your own. It seems as if he has been fighting these same demons for over a decade and that he actually attempted to get help. The stressors of being in the limelight and produce as a good-to-great thespian is immense. Overdoses in Hollywood are as common as they are in other facets of life. They just seem to get a little more airplay due to the status to some of these stars who bite the proverbial bullet. I have been blessed that I haven't had the direction to partake in addiction. I mean, I have experienced most things out there and dabbled here and there. However, the memories that hold me afloat is seeing a few of my closest friends pass away or stuck in a hole of immense size and detriment.

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Hollywood celebrates drug use, trivializes its effects, and enables each others addictions. Sadly, Philip Seymour Hoffman (and many others before him) is simply collateral damage to their self-indulgent culture.

Scrub

Absolutely.