Creationism vs Evolution live debate tonight

[Blake]

I think fearing god's wrath can be a good thing so long as it enforces the right morals that promote common good and not the bigoted ones.

No.

Fearing society's wrath for breaking the law might be a good thing, but it's debatable.

There is absolutely no good that can come from promoting fear of a magic man's wrath for being bad.

[Chinook]

No.

Fearing society's wrath for breaking the law might be a good thing, but it's debatable.

There is absolutely no good that can come from promoting fear of a magic man's wrath for being bad.

I don't see why not. If a guy decides not to go on a killing spree because he fears going to hell, a lot of livew get saved.

[DMC]

referring to the egotistical mindset that prevents many from realizing how indifferent the universe is to our existence in comparison to other forms of life

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that we are, in essence, trapped in our own bubble of consciousness so we get this impression that we must have a purpose, else why am I here, now.. in this reality? Basically why is this my view portal? Individually and collectively we more easily accept that we are the intended outcome than just a part of the whole. That's a simple explanation of a much more complex issue.

[DMC]

I don't see why not. If a guy decides not to go on a killing spree because he fears going to hell, a lot of livew get saved.

We have to define "good". It would be good for me if people dropped sacks of money off at my home, but not good if people did so because they thought I was going to kill their child if they didn't.

[xmas1997]

I don't see why not. If a guy decides not to go on a killing spree because he fears going to hell, a lot of livew get saved.

Blake Almighty would never understand this point of view.
He is too busy either criticizing valid reasoning or when that ruse fails, as it inevitably always does, accusing of poor reading comprehension, which also fails miserably.
:lol

[DMC]

Blake Almighty would never understand this point of view.
He is too busy either criticizing valid reasoning or when that ruse fails, as it inevitably always does, accusing of poor reading comprehension, which also fails miserably.
:lol

Blake is saying that ends don't justify the means. Hitler's (yes I'm invoking the Hitler fallacy) regime made many medical discoveries that we still use today however they did so by torturing human beings. The product is great, but the means to get there is unacceptable. The means to get desired behavioral response from society is unacceptable if it means perpetuating a lie, because people remain prisoners to their own stupidity. Freedom means knowing the truth and making decisions based on it. It doesn't mean being coerced by dogma.

[Chinook]

We have to define "good". It would be good for me if people dropped sacks of money off at my home, but not good if people did so because they thought I was going to kill their child if they didn't.

Sure. But that's rights theory. Not killing someone is different than giving away property. I don't care why someone decides to be a good citizen. I see little wrong with lying to folks who need to be lied to lest they harm others.

[DMC]

Sure. But that's rights theory. Not killing someone is different than giving away property. I don't care why someone decides to be a good citizen. I see little wrong with lying to folks who need to be lied to lest they harm others.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy you just used there though. Just because people have been lied to for centuries doesn't mean they needed to be lied to. Were we to not have any such thought of a supreme being or an afterlife, we could still survive. Animals do.

Besides, religion also coerces people to commit heinous acts. I'd prefer people know the truth about our existence. If they still wanted to kill me, I'd deal with that then.

[mouse]

The Day MIT Evolution topic died.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Evolution-checkmate.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Evolution-checkmate.mp4)

[mouse]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_AD_MIT_Einstien.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/AD_MIT_Einstien.mp4)

[mouse]

Science killed Evolution, the irony of it all. "do the math" :lmao

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_alternative-Design-odds.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/alternative-Design-odds.mp4)

[RD2191]

mouse with the goods

[mouse]

many of you look at different collages and think because its hard to be accepted it must be "smarter" not true. I joined the military after the 11th grade got a government GED and was sent to MIT to take a reverse engineering course and some of them had no idea what a "Tamale" was.

point is its not the "college" it's the "job" you get afterwards.

This is something MIT students and Professors fail to admit. But that's another debate they are losing in.... this one is really about "facts" and "Evidence"
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_MIT-on-Evolution-22_zpsf6e8801c.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/MIT-on-Evolution-22_zpsf6e8801c.mp4)

[mouse]

mouse with the Evidence

[mouse]

Then the floor caved in...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Alternative-Design-003.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Alternative-Design-003.mp4)

[FYM]

I'm still trying to figure out what mouse is saying about evolution tbh...

[Chinook]

Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy you just used there though. Just because people have been lied to for centuries doesn't mean they needed to be lied to. Were we to not have any such thought of a supreme being or an afterlife, we could still survive. Animals do.

Besides, religion also coerces people to commit heinous acts. I'd prefer people know the truth about our existence. If they still wanted to kill me, I'd deal with that then.

Humans could survive without a lot of things. Other animals survive without all intellectual pursuits. But I wasn't saying that humans in general needed religion to survive. I was speaking about cases in which fear of a deity leads to good things. If certain people can't be reasoned with and need to fear something supernatural in order to stay in line, I'm all for it. We lie to people all the time to keep them in line. A lot of hostage negotiations are settled with lies.

I didn't say religion doesn't lead to bad acts. I think people will do good or bad things and just make up whatever explanation they want to justify it. Both theists and atheists have done greats acts of good and evil (for lack of a better term). You just said that nothing good can come from lying to people, and that was my counter example.

[Chinook]

I'm still trying to figure out what mouse is saying about evolution tbh...

He's just trolling. He may not believe in evolution, but he certainly must know he's providing no strong counter-evidence.

[mouse]

I'm still trying to figure out what mouse is saying about evolution tbh...


That Evolution (micro) dose "Exist" "species" of "their kind" will evolve, So it's never really been about "Evolution"

It's about "macro" Evolution when some creature becomes something "other" than it's own "kind"

for example.... you can get lizards and snakes and tadpoles and salamanders to fuck for 100s of years and produce a Horny toad that doesn't mean some day you get an Elephant and later a chimp who becomes a man.... .....how stoned do you have to be to eat this shit?


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Evolutionisdead-001.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Evolutionisdead-001.mp4)

[mouse]

I'm still trying

Try harder

[FYM]

Try harder

Try making it simple. If you deny evolution and don't believe in creationism or whatever religious explanation. What's your belief then ?

see simple

[mouse]

Try making it simple.

Translation: Help me make you look bad online.



If you deny evolution and don't believe in creationism or whatever religious explanation. What's your belief then ?

What part of A.D. do you not get?


see simple



Alternative Design allows you to stay away from the Childish arguments and feel good knowing the facts. Your like a super hero "untouchable" you notice the lack of replies for myself?

the Alternative Design will be the way of the Intelligent.


bullshit still in the texts books.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/bigbang-lie-117.jpg

[FYM]

Oh ok the pandas.. Gotcha.

I did not know we had an alternative creationist among us :lol

now it explains the butt hurt over the scientific community and the conspiracy theories

thanks mouse


see simple

[mouse]

Oh ok the pandas.. Gotcha.

I did not know we had an alternative creationist among us :lol

now it explains the butt hurt over the scientific community and the conspiracy theories

thanks mouse


see simple

When did I mention a "creator"?

[mouse]

If your going to debate do some research first.

(heads up #1200)

[FYM]

When did I mention a "creator"?

Im not an expert mouse I just know intelligent design, alternative design are a form of the creationism movement and I said alternative creationist.

[FYM]

When did I mention a "creator"?

Btw you did mention design and consequently designer

[mouse]

Im not an expert mouse I just know intelligent design, alternative design are a form of the creationism movement and I said alternative creationist.

Well you need to do some more research.

A Designer doesn't mean a GOD it means you didn't just didn't become a man from two fish Fucking. is that so hard to understand?

not for me and millions others.... stop acting like your curious and admit there is DNA.

did you forget that card?

[mouse]

Btw you did mention design and consequently designer


The man who "Designed" the DVD cover for the 10 Commandments was a Atheist whats your point?

[mouse]

Alternative Design allows you to let go of Darwin and not have to support the Bible it's a "win Win"

[DMC]

Humans could survive without a lot of things. Other animals survive without all intellectual pursuits. But I wasn't saying that humans in general needed religion to survive. I was speaking about cases in which fear of a deity leads to good things. If certain people can't be reasoned with and need to fear something supernatural in order to stay in line, I'm all for it. We lie to people all the time to keep them in line. A lot of hostage negotiations are settled with lies.

I didn't say religion doesn't lead to bad acts. I think people will do good or bad things and just make up whatever explanation they want to justify it. Both theists and atheists have done greats acts of good and evil (for lack of a better term). You just said that nothing good can come from lying to people, and that was my counter example.
No, I said the ends don't justify the means.

I don't believe that religion thwarts evil acts. I believe it gives people a moral out for doing whatever they want through creative, convenient exegesis of religious text.

[Chinook]

No, I said the ends don't justify the means.

I don't believe that religion thwarts evil acts. I believe it gives people a moral out for doing whatever they want through creative, convenient exegesis of religious text.

Sorry, it was Blake who said that. My mistake. It was his post that started this particular branch of conversation. I should have read more carefully.

I don't think lying to someone is a very bad means at all, so I respectfully disagree there. I agree about the moral out idea, but I think it's more of an out for institutions rather than individuals. Churches and governments use religion to justify certain actions while being disingenuous. People often aren't aware that they are using religion as a moral out. There are those who legitimately are compelled to do or refrain from doing actions based on what a religious text tells them to do. Otherwise, religion really hasn't had any power over individuals, and it's no more harmful than a fairy tale.

So either religion is/was powerless to direct moral norms or it has spurred both great compassion and hatred. Either way, it seems by and large neutral on that front.

[pgardn]

That Evolution (micro) dose "Exist" "species" of "their kind" will evolve, So it's never really been about "Evolution"

It's about "macro" Evolution when some creature becomes something "other" than it's own "kind"

for example.... you can get lizards and snakes and tadpoles and salamanders to fuck for 100s of years and produce a Horny toad that doesn't mean some day you get an Elephant and later a chimp who becomes a man.... .....how stoned do you have to be to eat this shit?


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Evolutionisdead-001.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Evolutionisdead-001.mp4)

So readers should ask mouse when is something different than its own kind.

When Does Mouse consider living things different? Are lions different from Tigers? Why or why not?
These questions are asked because Mouse has no working definition of species. He mentions micro and macro evolution and completely skips over speciation. He does not understand the basics of what science says and then pretends in his fantasy land he has solved great problems.

[Blake]

Sorry, it was Blake who said that. My mistake. It was his post that started this particular branch of conversation. I should have read more carefully.

I said no good can come from promoting fear of a boogeyman.


I don't think lying to someone is a very bad means at all, so I respectfully disagree there. I agree about the moral out idea, but I think it's more of an out for institutions rather than individuals.

If you want to lie to your kids that God is watching them even when they think nobody is looking, that's your prerogative.

But if we're talking about a larger societal scale, such as a public school classroom, then you're basically bringing religion into it.

[DMC]

Alternative Design allows you to let go of Darwin and not have to support the Bible it's a "win Win"

Using bold text allows you to not have a fucking clue but post as if you're important.

[xmas1997]

Using bold text allows you to not have a fucking clue but post as if you're important.

I thought holding on the internet was yelling.

[DMC]

If your going to debate do some research first.

(heads up #1200)

Wiki and Infowarts isn't "research" material. You'd have to do more than just browse some forums to do any legit research.

[Jacob1983]

You guys argue over stupid shit.

[xmas1997]

You guys argue over stupid shit.

Too much time on their hands tbh.

[Jacob1983]

It's just pointless because there are some dumbasses on here that are so hell bent on the Earth being formed by the Big Bang and then there are others hell bent on God creating the Earth. You guys aren't going to change each other's minds. Why not just call it a draw and move on?

[Blake]

It's just pointless because there are some dumbasses on here that are so hell bent on the Earth being formed by the Big Bang and then there are others hell bent on God creating the Earth. You guys aren't going to change each other's minds. Why not just call it a draw and move on?

you're hell bent on whining

[Jacob1983]

Anything else ass fuck?

[xmas1997]

you're hell bent on whining


Anything else ass fuck?

That's just another one of Blake Almighty's favorite sayings since he is so dense he can't come up with anything creative and original.
It means absolutely nothing coming from him.

[DMC]

It's just pointless because there are some dumbasses on here that are so hell bent on the Earth being formed by the Big Bang and then there are others hell bent on God creating the Earth. You guys aren't going to change each other's minds. Why not just call it a draw and move on?

Jacob: leading the field in settling for less because otherwise it's just too hard.

[Blake]

Anything else ass fuck?

No, that's it. I'm not sure why the arguing bothers you, but it's funny.

[Blake]

That's just another one of Blake Almighty's favorite sayings since he is so dense he can't come up with anything creative and original.
It means absolutely nothing coming from him.

You're hell bent on obsessing about me.

[xmas1997]

You're hell bent on obsessing about me.

Not really.
Have you got a guilty conscience or something?
Just telling it like it is, returning tit for tat.
You started this, not me.
I'm just finishing it.
Isn't that funny now? Oh, it isn't? How ironic, now that the shoe is on the other foot.
:lol

[mouse]

So readers should ask mouse when is something different than its own kind.

Am I sensing some sarcasm?


When Does Mouse consider living things different? Are lions different from Tigers? Why or why not?

Beacase they are both from the cat family they both purr do you know what " kind" means?

Like a banana and a pineapple are a kind of fruit.
Turtles alligators and lizards are of the reptile kind
Any of this helping?


These questions are asked because Mouse has no working definition of species. He mentions micro and macro evolution and completely skips over speciation. He does not understand the basics of what science says and then pretends in his fantasy land he has solved great problems.

That is your opinion frankly your talking like I used this topic to post every bit of knowledge I have on the subject but if you were reading I was only replaying to Brazil and I posted that I have already explained myself in many Evolution topics I'm not going to start over just so you can try and catch up.

[mouse]

Wiki and Infowarts isn't "research" material. You'd have to do more than just browse some forums to do any legit research.
Your right I should be at the MIT library with a six pack of red bulls what was I thinking.

So instead of debunking my videos your upset I didnt use google and yahoo instead?
Put up a link that shows I'm wrong.
Post something worth reading for a change.

[mouse]

Using bold text allows you to not have a fucking clue but post as if you're important.

So much for intelligent Design.

[Blake]

Not really.
Have you got a guilty conscience or something?
Just telling it like it is, returning tit for tat.
You started this, not me.
I'm just finishing it.
Isn't that funny now? Oh, it isn't? How ironic, now that the shoe is on the other foot.
:lol

there's no irony here. You're not finishing anything. You're just an idiot.

[Blake]

So much for intelligent Design.

this thread needs more of you posting selfies to prove your point.

[xmas1997]

there's no irony here. You're not finishing anything. You're just an idiot.


How ironic of you to say that too when it is blatantly obvious to most with critical eyes.
Yes, indeed I am finishing it, just maybe not in the fantasy world you live in.
And I'm an idiot now?
More irony.
Post something of consequence for a change, it would do you good.
You might try a "constructive" tact for a change. Then maybe more would take you seriously.
Ironic that you who loves laughing at others is being laughed at now.
Don't like it when you're the butt of the joke do you?
Karma is such a bitch sometimes.
:lol

[pgardn]

Am I sensing some sarcasm?



Beacase they are both from the cat family they both purr do you know what " kind" means?

Like a banana and a pineapple are a kind of fruit.
Turtles alligators and lizards are of the reptile kind
Any of this helping?



That is your opinion frankly your talking like I used this topic to post every bit of knowledge I have on the subject but if you were reading I was only replaying to Brazil and I posted that I have already explained myself in many Evolution topics I'm not going to start over just so you can try and catch up.

So are a banana and pineapple the same species of fruit?

You Fckn don't have any working definition of species while trying to communicate on a subject as difficult as evolution. You use the terms micro and macro and you fucking don't have a definition of species?

So you just use mouse language with mouse terms and expect to communicate to people who have seriously thought about a subject. You are like a child who walks into the middle of a movie screaming for candy... Frustrated beyond your understanding you just whine for attention.

MIT... sure.

[Blake]

How ironic of you to say that too when it is blatantly obvious to most with critical eyes.
Yes, indeed I am finishing it, just maybe not in the fantasy world you live in.
And I'm an idiot now?
More irony.
Post something of consequence for a change, it would do you good.
You might try a "constructive" tact for a change. Then maybe more would take you seriously.
Ironic that you who loves laughing at others is being laughed at now.
Don't like it when you're the butt of the joke do you?
Karma is such a bitch sometimes.
:lol

Yeah, you're an idiot.

Lol karma

[xmas1997]

Yeah, you're an idiot.

Lol karma

I suppose your life up to this point has been peachy keen.
Think about it.
You bring it all down on yourself.
This hasn't happened over night either.
It's most probably been going on for years.
You have only your snide attitude to blame for it.
You should do some serious soul searching.
And you call me an idiot?
:lol

[mouse]

So are a banana and pineapple the same species of fruit?

You Fckn don't have any working definition of species while trying to communicate on a subject as difficult as evolution. You use the terms micro and macro and you fucking don't have a definition of species?

So you just use mouse language with mouse terms and expect to communicate to people who have seriously thought about a subject. You are like a child who walks into the middle of a movie screaming for candy... Frustrated beyond your understanding you just whine for attention.

MIT... sure.


After reading a few posts in the politics forum I really didn't see you as a DMC or Blake type of person who has poor communication skills I would have never replied.

[Blake]

I suppose your life up to this point has been peachy keen.
Think about it.
You bring it all down on yourself.
This hasn't happened over night either.
It's most probably been going on for years.
You have only your snide attitude to blame for it.
You should do some serious soul searching.
And you call me an idiot?
:lol

Your assumptions are ridiculous. My life is good.

:lol believing in karma

You're an idiot.

[mouse]

For those of you reading the word kind is significant.

I know all about species and types of living organizums the reason the word kind is brought up it's what the bible uses to acknowledge that a certain form of Evolution takes place (with in its species)


And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.

Not supporting the bible but explaining the use of the word kind

[mouse]

These type of explanations are needed when trying to properly debate a subject.

Something the uneducated can"t seem to grasp.

(Or at least not in this romper room of a forum)

[FYM]

Yeah, you're an idiot.



cannot argue with that tbh

[pgardn]

For those of you reading the word kind is significant.

I know all about species and types of living organizums the reason the word kind is brought up it's what the bible uses to acknowledge that a certain form of Evolution takes place (with in its species)



Not supporting the bible but explaining the use of the word kind

So you don't believe a population of organisms can speciate?

[xmas1997]

Your assumptions are ridiculous. My life is good.

:lol believing in karma

You're an idiot.

You sound like a broken record, the same old drivel over and over again.
Don't you ever have anything constructive to say?
You might get a more different response if you did.
Just saying.
Calling you like you are.

[Blake]

You sound like a broken record, the same old drivel over and over again.
Don't you ever have anything constructive to say?
You might get a more different response if you did.
Just saying.
Calling you like you are.

I don't care about getting a different response from you.

You're an obsessed idiot that doesn't being any intelligence to the table.

Calling you like you are.

[mouse]

So you don't believe a population of organisms can speciate?

It's not about beliefs it's about what can be proven.

[mouse]

Darwin got so excited finding all those different birds that shared a common ancestor he just assumed all life shared the same DNA. Yes there are many different varieties of dogs that were bread and some evolved into wolves coyotes etc but they keep the same DNA no dog has evolved into a camel no bird has evolved into a cow.

That is why Science is trying so hard to prove birds evolved from dinosaurs they want to jump over the DNA by using fake fossils.


I already know I and my ancestors did not Evolve from a fish your the one who eats that shit so prove it already.

[spurraider21]

this is a few pages old, but you can't have something come from a timeless dimension. time is defined as change, and vice versa.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Jacob: leading the field in settling for less because otherwise it's just too hard.

:lmao

[Avante]

Blake getting his ass kicked yet again is all I got out of this thread

[RD2191]

Blake getting his ass kicked yet again is all I got out of this thread
:lol

[Blake]

Blake getting his ass kicked yet again is all I got out of this thread

Avante getting frustrated and mad again is what i get out of this post

[Clipper Nation]

Blake getting his ass kicked yet again is all I got out of this thread
Why are you always humping Blake's leg, tbh?

[Blake]

Why are you always humping Blake's leg, tbh?

Sheesh, tbh

[Avante]

Why are you always humping Blake's leg, tbh?

I agree see how stupid that is, ya don't do you?

[Avante]

Avante getting frustrated and mad again is what i get out of this post

You're the one taking a beating not me.

[Blake]

I agree see how stupid that is, ya don't do you?

All anyone sees is you being a fat ol leg humping hypocrite shooting par

[Blake]

You're the one taking a beating not me.

Sorry, you're not intelligent enough to make that determination.

It only takes a minimal amount of perception to know that you're only posting here because you're frustrated and angry.

[pgardn]

It's not about beliefs it's about what can be proven.

Nothing can be totally proven in science. The evidence becomes so overwhelming that it causes rational people to believe. This is something that people who just wander into debates not understanding anything about human thought and science would retort with.

So answer the question without playing your little games. I know your MO. You know very little about anything. If you actually attempt to answer a question involving the topic at hand, evolution, you melt away. Because you know very little concerning the topic except you have decided to reject the subject.
Gadfly.
I wanna be different because I have more insight than people who have spent a good portion of their life studying a subject. This would make me appear to be a creative thinker.

This gets so old. It's used by a good number of posters. So your use of this pseudo intellectual BS is very mundane.

I would change my present belief that populations of organisms change through time and all that goes with this, if you could present overwhelming evidence to the contrary. So GO. Start with speciation.

[Fabbs]

Could the dustspeck brigade be right?
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3650181888/h216A3316/

[mouse]

Nothing can be totally proven in science. The evidence .

Then why have it in the text books the solar system is 12 billion years old?

The earth is 4.6 billion years old? You like students being lied to?

If they are not facts shouldn't such stories be in the fiction section of the library ?

[Blake]

Then why have it in the text books the solar system is 12 billion years old?

The earth is 4.6 billion years old? You like students being lied to?

If they are not facts shouldn't such stories be in the fiction section of the library ?

Why even have science class?

It seems you never went but you turned out just fine, amirite?

[pgardn]

Then why have it in the text books the solar system is 12 billion years old?

The earth is 4.6 billion years old? You like students being lied to?

If they are not facts shouldn't such stories be in the fiction section of the library ?

Answer the question.

Tangent man, we can get to your other misconceptions later.

[xmas1997]

Why even have science class?

It seems you never went but you turned out just fine, amirite?

So which Blake in which cubical are you today?
When one Blake gets their shit handed to them, then another pipes up as if nothing happens.
Typical.
:toast

And then because his buddies (plural) are attacked, we get the ever astutely intellectual comments of "humping Blakes leg" from CN. And we all know how much of a giant in the intellect department CN is, barely above Blake IMHO.
More typical inanity.
:lol

[Blake]

So which Blake in which cubical are you today?
When one Blake gets their shit handed to them, then another pipes up as if nothing happens.
Typical.
:toast

And then because his buddies (plural) are attacked, we get the ever astutely intellectual comments of "humping Blakes leg" from CN. And we all know how much of a giant in the intellect department CN is, barely above Blake IMHO.
More typical inanity.
:lol

More unintelligible, obsessive rambling about me

It's now become typical. I guess I'm in your nightmares as well.

[xmas1997]

More unintelligible, obsessive rambling about me

It's now become typical. I guess I'm in your nightmares as well.


Oh no, don't include me in your fantasy world.
I am content just where I am without your ridiculously false assumptions and accusations.
Just keep digging that hole of yours, but leave me out of it. Maybe you'll find China eventually.
:lol

[Blake]

Oh no, don't include me in your fantasy world.
I am content just where I am without your ridiculously false assumptions and accusations.
Just keep digging that hole of yours, but leave me out of it. Maybe you'll find China eventually.
:lol

No, it's you that can't keep my name out of your posts, dumbass. The proof is here in this thread.

[xmas1997]

I never started this, you did, as you well know, unless you are going to lie about it now too, (whichever one of the many Blakes I am addressing at the moment). So why aren't you "laughing" now? Truth hurt any?
But I guarantee you, I will finish it, you can take that to the bank.
:lol

[Blake]

I never started this, you did, as you well know, unless you are going to lie about it now too, (whichever one of the many Blakes I am addressing at the moment). So why aren't you "laughing" now? Truth hurt any?
But I guarantee you, I will finish it, you can take that to the bank.
:lol

Finish what? lol taking it to the bank

You're more obsessed about me than I thought.

[spurraider21]

When you are responding to him as often as he responds to you, how do you justify playing the "he's obsessed with me" card?

[Blake]

When you are responding to him as often as he responds to you, how do you justify playing the "he's obsessed with me" card?

when someone talks about me out loud to no one in particular on a number of occasions, I go ahead and lay down the obsessed card.

[DMC]

Nothing can be totally proven in science. The evidence becomes so overwhelming that it causes rational people to believe. This is something that people who just wander into debates not understanding anything about human thought and science would retort with.

So answer the question without playing your little games. I know your MO. You know very little about anything. If you actually attempt to answer a question involving the topic at hand, evolution, you melt away. Because you know very little concerning the topic except you have decided to reject the subject.
Gadfly.
I wanna be different because I have more insight than people who have spent a good portion of their life studying a subject. This would make me appear to be a creative thinker.

This gets so old. It's used by a good number of posters. So your use of this pseudo intellectual BS is very mundane.

I would change my present belief that populations of organisms change through time and all that goes with this, if you could present overwhelming evidence to the contrary. So GO. Start with speciation.

Mouse goes pages and pages on multiple threads just like this, posting what appears to be intentionally obtuse misconceptions and then trying to defend them. It's how he gets pages and pages from silly threads. I'd not waste my time with him since he's not new to the debate and hasn't upped his game any.

[DMC]

I thought holding on the internet was yelling.

All caps is yelling. Bolding is to draw attention to your comment especially when you've not said anything noteworthy.

[mouse]

Answer the question.

Tangent man, we can get to your other misconceptions later.

Trying so hard to avoid pulling out the broken record card but if you go back and read I posted "I don't like posting from a phone" while at work.

Also you seem civil at the moment but I know at any time you will turn into Lenny Bruce.

3rd....I posted earlier almost every question that has to do with Evolution I have answered in many topics.

Do you walk into a theater half way furring the film and ask the projectionist to rewind the film?

But since I owe it to my online followers I will try and address your questions tonight if not Friday after get back to San Antonio where I keep my hard drives with evidence you seek.

[xmas1997]

When you are responding to him as often as he responds to you, how do you justify playing the "he's obsessed with me" card?

In his case it's just a simple typical case of conditioned ignorance.
What else could it be?
It's obviously not intelligence on parade because that would be an oxymoron in his case.
Ho deserves what he gets, because that is all he ever puts out.
Odd he doesn't find it funny any more, being his only retort is the usual "obsession" card.
:lol

[mouse]

Nothing can be totally proven in science. The evidence becomes so overwhelming that it causes rational people to believe. This is something that people who just wander into debates not understanding anything about human thought and science would retort with.

So answer the question without playing your little games. I know your MO. You know very little about anything. If you actually attempt to answer a question involving the topic at hand, evolution, you melt away. Because you know very little concerning the topic except you have decided to reject the subject.
Gadfly.
I wanna be different because I have more insight than people who have spent a good portion of their life studying a subject. This would make me appear to be a creative thinker.

This gets so old. It's used by a good number of posters. So your use of this pseudo intellectual BS is very mundane.

I would change my present belief that populations of organisms change through time and all that goes with this, if you could present overwhelming evidence to the contrary. So GO. Start with speciation.

What is your question?

All I see is your sarcasm and misinformation about my knowledge in the topic of Evolution.

Please refrain from your attempt to display outdated smack and just keep it simple.

[pgardn]

What is your question?

All I see is your sarcasm and misinformation about my knowledge in the topic of Evolution.

Please refrain from your attempt to display outdated smack and just keep it simple.

Do you believe that speciation occurs? And with your answer, explain why or why not you have come to your belief using evidence you believe to be credible.

[pgardn]

So you don't believe a population of organisms can speciate?

Was this not clear?

[pgardn]

So readers should ask mouse when is something different than its own kind.

When Does Mouse consider living things different? Are lions different from Tigers? Why or why not?
These questions are asked because Mouse has no working definition of species. He mentions micro and macro evolution and completely skips over speciation. He does not understand the basics of what science says and then pretends in his fantasy land he has solved great problems.

This before.

[mouse]

Do you believe that speciation occurs? And with your answer, explain why or why not you have come to your belief using evidence you believe to be credible.

Decent question. Yesterday was he'll getting paid on Thursdays and tring to pay bills online and eBay took most of my free time.

I will be in San Antonio 8pm where I can go into better details.

But just off hand the word speculation has a huge gray area.

A bookie can speculate how many points Denver will win by and Vegas speculates heavy betting so the odds are always changing especially if Peyton Manning cuts his hand two days before the supper bowl.

Weather men speculate the tempatures for the weekend and doctors speculate the chances of your Cancer coming back after surgery.

So try to avoid using it when I can.

[mouse]

The other side of the pancake speculate can be viewed as most likely.

I speculate if you keep drinking a pint of whiskey everyday your liver will need to be replaced when your 50.

I spectate before Monday your question for me will be answered.

[mouse]

Do you believe that speciation occurs? And with your answer, explain why or why not you have come to your belief using evidence you believe to be credible.


Just now noticed it's not Speculation But speciation

Now you see why I don't use this tiny phone to debate online?
:lmao

I used to go to SpitsTalk with the government computer but someone always has a half naked lady in thier signature and people around the office thought I didn't get enough porn at home.

Will get back to your original question tonight.

[pgardn]

Mouse goes pages and pages on multiple threads just like this, posting what appears to be intentionally obtuse misconceptions and then trying to defend them. It's how he gets pages and pages from silly threads. I'd not waste my time with him since he's not new to the debate and hasn't upped his game any.

Once I find out his views on speciation (after he googles it today) I will probably quit. I just don't see how people who really understand evolution can reject it outright unless they fear its implications. Starting with speciation, and restricting the debate so as to not get into the Big Bang etc... might help me understand... Nah.

It might be useful to some others that actually care about understanding topic in a more complete manner.

[DMC]

People who want to understand evolution aren't reading about it on an NBA club forum. The material is out there. Debates regarding it are non-productive since they reduce to debates over the validity of science itself. Those who don't accept science are not interested in learning about it.

[mouse]

Do you believe that speciation occurs?

I think it's for the birds.

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And with your answer, explain why or why not you have come to your belief using evidence you believe to be credible.

well I never said "Evolution" doesn't exist we all know a caterpillar "Evolves" into a Butterfly. I said in earlier posts of the many different Birds. My original point was I said "Evolution" of Man "Evolving from a Fish" is a fantasy story some sort of based upon faith a Religion. and need not be in the textbooks unless you teach "Alternative Design" why is that so bad?

psssst! more Research, less questions" post your Evidence already!

Show me the "FUCKING FOSSILS"



Sorry always wanted to copyright that slogan but didn't have the time so I posted it here to sort of time stamp my idea. a poor mans copyright of sorts.

I plan to use that very slogan when I meet in person the MIT debate / Evolution seminar I hope you watch it your views on life may change....

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_Alternative-Design-003.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Alternative-Design-003.mp4)

[CuckingFunt]

we all know a caterpillar "Evolves" into a Butterfly.

No it doesn't.

[mouse]

No it doesn't.


I was hoping they wouldn't catch that, and you did!

:lmao

maybe you and I should debate the subject?


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/Science-text-book-2-1.jpg