Hmmmmm?

[Avante]

Let's see......

It;s a passing league.

Fuck running the ball.

Black QB's just ain't got it.

So what rules the NFL right now, a team that runs the ball first, plays solid D, wins the turnover battle and has a black QB.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Football will always be the same, the team with the best players who make the least mistakes wins. It's not about scheme or system it's all about the athletes involved, I don't give a fat fuck what scheme/system Long Beach State uses they lose 100 out of 100 to USC. There is a reason the Browns have never been within sniffing distance of a Superbowl............subpar personel as a group.

Watch as more and more teams try to emulate what Seattle is doing, which is actually going back in time, run the ball. stuff the run, win the turnover battle,have a smart QB who doesn't fuck it up. Yep.....the 1960's Packers.

[spurraider21]

is that why you chose the Broncos?

[Avante]

This is before the SB.


A...thought you'd be bigger
RW...I've heard that before. ha!

A...so how's it feel to be a world champion?
RW...pretty good, actually....great!

A...I've been in your corner for awhile now. I saw the magic while you were at Wisconsin.
RW...magic? I come prepared, do the little things it takes to be successful, keep in mind football is a team sport, so I do all I can to put the team in the best possible situation to win.

A...well so far you've won a Superbowl, tied the rookie td record, only QB in history to post two 100 plus QB rating in their first two campaigns, won more games than any second year QB, pretty impressive.
RW...I thank God and Pete Carroll. God for blessing me and Pete for putting me in the best possible situation to succeed. We have a great defense and "The Beast", so if I don't screw things up:hat

A...hey man, thanks for your time, I really do appreciate it.
RW...my pleasure. Can I ask you a question?
A...shoot!
RW...how do you build those pecs?
A...tons of bench and flyes? Tons!!!!!!!


I went back and forth but finally settled on the Seahawks. So you see the league as what right now?

[Clipper Nation]

You picked Denver, and you clearly stated that you would have picked Seattle but they were too shaky away from home.... :lolld Fagg:lolt trying to revise history out of shame for his terrible picks :lol

[Avante]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBF44R_wSLM

Curtis Conway himself was a HS QB and a Cali State 100m champ at 10.42 (faster than Harvin). Then off to USC as a receiver there he would run a 10.26, which makes him the fastest athlete to ever play the QB position.

[Avante]

You picked Denver, and you clearly stated that you would have picked Seattle but they were too shaky away from home.... :lolld Fagg:lolt trying to revise history out of shame for his terrible picks :lol

I got busy and forgot to make my pick here, I did mention the wise guys taking Seattle plus the points, I don't go against them as a matter of fact it's their plays I used all season, a cool...68 %.:lobt2:

Every Friday on The Herd, Colin compares his picks with what the Vegas wise guys are playing. Whiile he sucks they are wise guys for a reason. Easy $$$$$$$$$$$.

[The Gemini Method]

Thanks for picking the Broncos, Avante. The Emerald City should throw you a mini-parade for you choosing the Ponies over the Seahawks!

[Avante]

Thanks for picking the Broncos, Avante. The Emerald City should throw you a mini-parade for you choosing the Ponies over the Seahawks!

Actually on the Friday before the game I got the info I was waiting on. Laid 1100 on the Hawks plus the number.

[Clipper Nation]

I got busy and forgot to make my pick here, I did mention the wise guys taking Seattle plus the points, I don't go against them as a matter of fact it's their plays I used all season, a cool...68 %.:lobt2:

Every Friday on The Herd, Colin compares his picks with what the Vegas wise guys are playing. Whiile he sucks they are wise guys for a reason. Easy $$$$$$$$$$$.

Current Avante betting tracker: 7-13, down $8,740 overall

[Clipper Nation]

Actually on the Friday before the game I got the info I was waiting on. Laid 1100 on the Hawks plus the number.
:lmao Now reduced to making up picks so you can pretend you were right

[Avante]

:lmao Now reduced to making up picks so you can pretend you were right

The bottom line is watching you so totally wrapped up in this, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Like a fucking monkey on a string, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dummy, you really do get a nut over this and it;'s fucking funny. Now think stupid, I watch guys who make a living at this make their plays and I go the other way....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Gemini Method]

Actually on the Friday before the game I got the info I was waiting on. Laid 1100 on the Hawks plus the number.

If this is true, then phew...guess we were the team of destiny this year.

[Avante]

If this is true, then phew...guess we were the team of destiny this year.

Destiniy had nothing to do with it, you had the perfect formula for success. Great coach, fantastic defense, smart QB, monster running back and you won the all important turn over battle. Lombardi would be proud.

[Clipper Nation]

The bottom line is watching you so totally wrapped up in this, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Like a fucking monkey on a string, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dummy, you really do get a nut over this and it;'s fucking funny. Now think stupid, I watch guys who make a living at this make their plays and I go the other way....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Current Avante betting tracker: 7-13, down $8,740 overall

[Avante]

Dude, you're killing me, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AchillesHeel]

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[J.T.]

:lmao Avante living vicariously through the team that eliminated his

Apparently irony is a bitch named Judy.

[Avante]

:lmao Avante living vicariously through the team that eliminated his

Apparently irony is a bitch named Judy.

No not really, I just don't play silly ass games because of allegiances. That's you gig small fry. I like to go with realty not hero worship, and before you say..."you mean like your obsession with RW"....where am I not dealing in facts? I made a big deal out of him because I had a feeling him or the Niners would be in the Superbowl, so I really couldn't lose.

So what's the over/under in how many INT's Andrew Luck throws in his next playoff game....3?

I showed Judy what you posted, her reply..."aren't you a bit old to be talking with little kids"

[Clipper Nation]

I showed Judy what you posted, her reply..."aren't you a bit old to be talking with little kids"
Too bad nobody ever told you that back in Olongopo, tbh....

[Avante]

Too bad nobody ever told you that back in Olongopo, tbh....

Dude, wow!

Avante...how old are you?
bar girl...I 17 how old you
Avante...I'm 19.

Dude, nobody should be that fucking stupid. Do you think at all before posting?

Ok man, you are just too fucking dumb to waste anymore time on. That right there did it for me, how old did you think I was back then? What a dummy.

Done with you moron.

[I. Hustle]

Dude, wow!

Avante...how old are you?
bar girl...I 17 how old you
Avante...I'm 19. (aaauuuggghhhh she can't be any older than 13.... eff it. Everyone else is doing it so it must be ok)

Dude, nobody should be that fucking stupid. Do I think at all before posting?

fify

[J.T.]

I like to go with realty not hero worship, and before you say..."you mean like your obsession with RW"....where am I not dealing in facts?

Every time you point to Wilson's stats as "the best QB ever through two seasons" without admitting the reason other young QBs aren't in the same boat due to the fact that they don't play for a team that doesn't need a QB to win.


I made a big deal out of him because I had a feeling him or the Niners would be in the Superbowl, so I really couldn't lose.

What a risky bet to make when those two teams were in the NFC Championship game. Way to go out on a limb buddy.


So what's the over/under in how many INT's Andrew Luck throws in his next playoff game....3?


Probably zero.

:lmao insinuating Andrew Luck is a turnover machine when he cut his INT total in half from 2012 to 2013 and had less picks than the great Peyton Manning in 2013. Props to your boy for being on the team that won the Super Bowl man. Doesn't change that you're oblivious to the fact that Wilson would be eaten alive by the NFL if forced into the kind of role Luck is in currently.

[spurraider21]

Every time you point to Wilson's stats as "the best QB ever through two seasons" without admitting the reason other young QBs aren't in the same boat due to the fact that they don't play for a team that doesn't need a QB to win.



What a risky bet to make when those two teams were in the NFC Championship game. Way to go out on a limb buddy.



Probably zero.

:lmao insinuating Andrew Luck is a turnover machine when he cut his INT total in half from 2012 to 2013 and had less picks than the great Peyton Manning in 2013. Props to your boy for being on the team that won the Super Bowl man. Doesn't change that you're oblivious to the fact that Wilson would be eaten alive by the NFL if forced into the kind of role Luck is in currently.
Not sure that last hypothetical senario can be called a fact

[J.T.]

Not sure that last hypothetical senario can be called a fact

I'd love to see Wilson finish the season whilst getting pressured on 85% of dropbacks the way Luck does behind our shitstain of an interior offensive line.

Seahawks > Colts but Wilson < Luck. Fact.

[spurraider21]

I'd love to see Wilson finish the season whilst getting pressured on 85% of dropbacks the way Luck does behind our shitstain of an interior offensive line.

Seahawks > Colts but Wilson < Luck. Fact.
i didnt actually say Wilson > Luck, though saying "Wilson would be eaten alive" is a hypothetical and nothing more than your opinion.

by the way, Wilson got sacked more than Luck did despite having about 160 less passing attempts. i dont have an exact figure on pressures (i'd have to search around for it, not sure where that stat is readily found). oh and while Luck did cut his interceptions in half (only threw 9 this season) he threw 7 in two playoff games... including 4 against the patriots not so vaunted defense

edit: just saw a stat where Colts gave up the 3rd most QB hits in the league this season with 95, but Seattle was right there with 89, despite far fewer passing plays called

[J.T.]

i didnt actually say Wilson > Luck, though saying "Wilson would be eaten alive" is a hypothetical and nothing more than your opinion.

by the way, Wilson got sacked more than Luck did despite having about 160 less passing attempts. i dont have an exact figure on pressures (i'd have to search around for it, not sure where that stat is readily found). oh and while Luck did cut his interceptions in half (only threw 9 this season) he threw 7 in two playoff games... including 4 against the patriots not so vaunted defense

edit: just saw a stat where Colts gave up the 3rd most QB hits in the league this season with 95, but Seattle was right there with 89, despite far fewer passing plays called

I'm sure if you adjusted Seattle's numbers to subtract all QB hits and sacks when Wilson was trying to monkeyball it and their number comes down a bit. But hey, if Wilson was under pressure a lot, then bully for him putting his team on his back and shoving them into the postseason. Maybe one day Andrew Luck can be so...fortunate. (<- conscious attempt to avoid using Luck's name in the same sentence as any context of the word "luck" itself).

I'd just like to see a little more admission from the people with Wilson's dick halfway down their throat that the aspects of the Colts' team that would help a young quarterback (a defense that can get the other offense off the field consistently, elite ground game) are pretty terrible. Luck's far and away the team's best RB when you subtract kneeldowns from his ypc. In the playoffs, the defense got torched by Alex Smith for 400 yards and 4 TDs through the air one week, then steamrolled by LeGarrette Blount and Stevan Ridley for a combined 218 yards and 6 TDs on the ground the next week. Would Wilson have not thrown 7 interceptions if his defense was spotting the other team 3 or 4 TDs at the beginning of each playoff game? Maybe not, but look at what happened to Denver in the Super Bowl. Same exact thing. Down huge early, tons of turnovers by a star quarterback. But less of that "Oh shit I forgot this game actually counts!" nonsense from Luck.

I'm being a little homerish in this Luck vs Wilson thing because like any fan, I study my team. I know that Luck can make good, accurate throws when he gets time to go through a play. Even sometimes when he doesn't. Go watch his TD pass to T.Y. Hilton right at the end of the 3rd quarter of their Week 9 game at Houston. That pass had only one window, about a 1-yard gap between Hilton and the defender. If it was even slightly off it would have been picked or incomplete. So I when I see him throw 7 picks in two playoff games, I see the position the team was in during the game versus oh my god Andrew Luck threw 7 picks. Yes it's bad that he threw 7 picks. I don't like it and if he hadn't maybe the Colts would have blown those teams out instead of getting blown out. Maybe it's all his fault and I'm just not seeing it. But I really don't think that's the case.

I keep saying that Wilson's on the best Seahawks team he'll ever play for and Luck's on the worst Colts team he'll ever play for right now. The 2013 Colts were slightly better than their 2012 iteration but barely. All things considered, I'm cool with where Luck is. Most potential of any of the young QBs, already forced his team to the playoffs twice pretty much by himself and won an epic playoff game. And he threw right into the teeth of the secondary that eviscerated Peyton Manning and beat them. So there's that too. When the team gets better he's going to be unstoppable.

[spurraider21]

by the way, I've been on the Luck > Wilson wagon this entire time, and throughout the season i've made that clear too. just playing a bit of devil's advocate is all.

if you are going to blame some of the hits/pressures on wilson's scrambling, you can also say his scrambling avoided hits and sacks. by the way, i know how awesome Luck is, both running and throwing. i saw him pretty good in week 1. even though the raiders played one of their best games of the year, Luck was just godly throwing the ball early in the game, and that gw touchdown run to escape an embarrassing loss was pretty boss, not gna lie.

Luck is probably the #1 asset in the NFL right now. i just think that besides avante/seahawk fan on ST and myself, Wilson doesn't get enough credit. I'm well aware he played on a team that took some pressure off of him. their defense was #1 in the league and saved their best performance for the superbowl. Lynch was great in the first 2 playoff games. he also averaged less than 4 ypc in 9 of their 16 games this year. towards the end of the year when the seahawks offense was sputtering, Lynch had 5 straight sup-bar games as well. not to mention their receiving core was pretty bad. Sidney Rice has been a flop there and he got injured anyway, and of course Harvin was a non-factor all year.

I'd love to see Wilson on a team that was more pass happy, I think he'd excel. but for now on that team, he is still a big time playmaker (see SF game, with the huge pass to Baldwin in the first half, the game winning touchdown on 4th down) and does just fine moving the chains and putting up TD's even with a sub-par receiving core

[J.T.]

Don't worry braj, that deepthroat jab was exclusively for Avante. You're good. Also I just want to point out that I've never put down Wilson. He has played well, I'm not trying to take that away from him. My point is just that Luck's role is so much larger because the Colts are like the worst good team right now (author's note: my bad I forgot the Chiefs were like still a thing) have a lot of holes and he has to pass a lot. His attempts were down from last year but when you look at the games, they passed to win almost all of them except the 49ers game. They'd try the power run offense rubbish for half the game and then be like, oh we have Andrew Luck, maybe we should throw it. Maybe the Colts are a really good team and just have shitty coaching? I dunno. But it's clear that Seattle has good coaching to go along with their stacked team. Wilson would probably still play very well if he had as many attempts as Luck did. They both excel at fulfilling the role their team asks of them.

This has nothing to do with Wilson, but remember that Luck had to replace Peyton Manning in Indianapolis. Walk into the locker room of the team that just had a top 5 QB (remember when this comment would have read "the greatest of all time" :lmao) completely running the offense. And I think we'd all say he answered that bell tremendously. Luck has won 23 games and 11 of them are 4th quarter comebacks. Basically 50%. Again, that stat shows both Luck is good and the Colts are bad to be down in almost 75% of the games they play (because, you know, with losses, you're down in the 4th quarter...). Manning had a lot of comeback wins in Indy too. Luck absolutely had to be that good that fast and he was. I think that's the most interesting thing about his career so far.

[Clipper Nation]

the Colts are like the worst good team right now (author's note: my bad I forgot the Chiefs were like still a thing)
The Bengals, too....

:lmao Dalton in the playoffs

[spurraider21]

The Bengals, too....

:lmao Dalton in the playoffs
The Bengals actually have a good team though. The Colts roster from top to bottom is probably worse than the Chiefs/Bengals

[jimbo]

I don't give a fat fuck what scheme/system Long Beach State uses they lose 100 out of 100 to USC.

How much money did you have on Michigan when they played Appalachian St? It only makes sense that that's why they lost.

[Avante]

Every time you point to Wilson's stats as "the best QB ever through two seasons" without admitting the reason other young QBs aren't in the same boat due to the fact that they don't play for a team that doesn't need a QB to win.



What a risky bet to make when those two teams were in the NFC Championship game. Way to go out on a limb buddy.



Probably zero.

:lmao insinuating Andrew Luck is a turnover machine when he cut his INT total in half from 2012 to 2013 and had less picks than the great Peyton Manning in 2013. Props to your boy for being on the team that won the Super Bowl man. Doesn't change that you're oblivious to the fact that Wilson would be eaten alive by the NFL if forced into the kind of role Luck is in currently.

Stop acting like Andrew Luck plays on a shitty team, it make you look like a fool. Nobody plays this but losers....

Joe Montana was only a stud because of the system he was in.
Jerry Rice was only the best because he had Montana and Young.
Bart Starr is in the HOF because of the great team that surrounded him.

So as long as RW plays for the Seahawks he can never be considered one of the best in the league? Are you fucking kidding me?

Where do you get this weird idea that Andrew Luck is a better passer? You do know that RW has already thrown for more scores, has a better comp %. Are you saying RW can't make all the throws? What throw can't he make? And stop ignoring thre fact Reggie Wayne/T.Y.Hilton are better receivers than any Seahawk receiver and stop ignoring the fact Luck plays in the wimpy ass AFC South.

You can wahwahwimper around all ya want the facts are this.

Playoff success...RW
reg season wins...RW
less INT's...RW
more td's...RW
comp %...RW
QB rating...RW


NFL records....rookie TD, 100 QB rating for first two seasons.

Dude, you wander around in a fucking fantasy world if you think RW would be eaten alive in any NFL scenario. He's not the guy constantly throwing INT's when it matters most that's Andrew Luck.

As you know I;m a Niner fan, so why do I praise RW, could it be I respect talent? Look at you, a COLT fan doing what, how about bragging about a COLT QB. I bet you think Peyton Manning is better than Joe Montana also.....right?

[Trainwreck2100]

If this is true, then phew...guess we were the team of destiny this year.

It's Avante so most likely it's not

[Avante]

How much money did you have on Michigan when they played Appalachian St? It only makes sense that that's why they lost.

So you really don't see any difference in Appalachian State and LBSt, right?

[spurraider21]

Damn Avante with an actually powerful post :lol

[J.T.]

Stop acting like Andrew Luck plays on a shitty team, it make you look like a fool. Nobody plays this but losers....

Joe Montana was only a stud because of the system he was in.
Jerry Rice was only the best because he had Montana and Young.
Bart Starr is in the HOF because of the great team that surrounded him.

So as long as RW plays for the Seahawks he can never be considered one of the best in the league? Are you fucking kidding me?

Your position in any of this is irrelevant because you just see what you want to see. But I'll field this one anyway champ. Let's talk about how good the Colts are. . . .

Boiled down::
-Secondary routinely gets torched by bad quarterbacks
-Defense hasn't stopped the run since 2005
-Special teams kick coverage has been bad since 2005
-Robert Mathis was almost 50% of the teams sacks
-Offensive line never recovered from Tarik Gleen retiring and is useless between the tackles
-Haven't run the ball well since 2008

They only thing they truly have going for them is the passing game. The team is wildly inconsistent. They're the Forrest Gump of NFL teams. You never know what you're gonna get.



Where do you get this weird idea that Andrew Luck is a better passer? You do know that RW has already thrown for more scores, has a better comp %. Are you saying RW can't make all the throws? What throw can't he make? And stop ignoring thre fact Reggie Wayne/T.Y.Hilton are better receivers than any Seahawk receiver and stop ignoring the fact Luck plays in the wimpy ass AFC South.

No one's putting down Wilson so you creating this fake debate about me dissing his stats isn't going to happen. I think Luck is better. No disrespect to Wilson's game, he's good too. Colts receiving corps is better though, astute observation champ. And that the Colts division is bad too. I forgot all about that. Cleveland might have a top 10 pick from us if we placed in the NFC. The Colts sure have greatly overachieved the past two seasons haven't they.


Russell Wilson life story clipped

Must be nice playing for a team that doesn't put their fate on your right arm 16+ times a year.


Dude, you wander around in a fucking fantasy world if you think RW would be eaten alive in any NFL scenario. He's not the guy constantly throwing INT's when it matters most that's Andrew Luck.

No, I live in a pretty real world where I clearly said I think Wilson would be eaten alive if put into Luck's shoes, having to throw the ball for entire games because the defense is giving up points all day and the running game's nickname is "Let's Waste A Down".


As you know I;m a Niner fan, so why do I praise RW, could it be I respect talent? Look at you, a COLT fan doing what, how about bragging about a COLT QB. I bet you think Peyton Manning is better than Joe Montana also.....right?

I think he's barely better than Brett Favre if you ask me.

[spurraider21]

Luck averaged less than 7 yards per attempt which is shitty in today's game. Also, him passing more and having a shit run game/defense/special team coverage (lol), and having better receivers would lead one to believe he'd have more TD's than Wilson though

[jimbo]

So you really don't see any difference in Appalachian State and LBSt, right?

Well one of them has a football program that still exists and the other doesn't. Savannah St might be a more recent program to use tbh.

and FWIW Long Beach actually did beat USC in basketball earlier this year :lol

[Avante]

Your position in any of this is irrelevant because you just see what you want to see. But I'll field this one anyway champ. Let's talk about how good the Colts are. . . .

Boiled down::
-Secondary routinely gets torched by bad quarterbacks
-Defense hasn't stopped the run since 2005
-Special teams kick coverage has been bad since 2005
-Robert Mathis was almost 50% of the teams sacks
-Offensive line never recovered from Tarik Gleen retiring and is useless between the tackles
-Haven't run the ball well since 2008

They only thing they truly have going for them is the passing game. The team is wildly inconsistent. They're the Forrest Gump of NFL teams. You never know what you're gonna get.




No one's putting down Wilson so you creating this fake debate about me dissing his stats isn't going to happen. I think Luck is better. No disrespect to Wilson's game, he's good too. Colts receiving corps is better though, astute observation champ. And that the Colts division is bad too. I forgot all about that. Cleveland might have a top 10 pick from us if we placed in the NFC. The Colts sure have greatly overachieved the past two seasons haven't they.



Must be nice playing for a team that doesn't put their fate on your right arm 16+ times a year.



No, I live in a pretty real world where I clearly said I think Wilson would be eaten alive if put into Luck's shoes, having to throw the ball for entire games because the defense is giving up points all day and the running game's nickname is "Let's Waste A Down".



I think he's barely better than Brett Favre if you ask me.

So I'll ask you again and how about a real answer instead of trying to make excuses for a team that ...

won the AFC South (ok ok...hahaha!)
won a playoff game
beat...THE SUPERBOWL CHAMPS...THE AFC CHAMPION...the powerful Niners and twice beating a good KC team.

Dude, stop cry babying around like some whore who got short changed....ok?

Tell me munckin what throws can't Russell Wilson make? At least it doesn't have this ...DUH!...look on his face.

No song n' dance bullshit slick......what throws can't RW make?

Look at this and then tell me what RW can't do that Luck can...ok?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXhWl2iPINQ

[J.T.]

Luck averaged less than 7 yards per attempt which is shitty in today's game. Also, him passing more and having a shit run game/defense/special team coverage (lol), and having better receivers would lead one to believe he'd have more TD's than Wilson though

He was averaging 8 yards per attempt at the point Reggie Wayne went down. We all know he's an elite receiver but they had no depth behind Hilton. Fleener stepped up a little bit. DHB totally didn't work out but I always thought of that signing as a cheap gamble anyway. And everyone else was off the practice squad, except Brazill who's maybe played 30 NFL snaps with Luck. Only natural his stats would go down, Wayne was about 35% of Luck's targets (60% on 3rd down).

[spurraider21]

He was averaging 8 yards per attempt at the point Reggie Wayne went down. We all know he's an elite receiver but they had no depth behind Hilton. Fleener stepped up a little bit. DHB totally didn't work out but I always thought of that signing as a cheap gamble anyway. And everyone else was off the practice squad, except Brazill who's maybe played 30 NFL snaps with Luck. Only natural his stats would go down, Wayne was about 35% of Luck's targets (60% on 3rd down).
Yeah their offense went into a rut for a while after Wayne went down. And I coulda warned you about DHB :lol. The worst part is that he was starting over Hilton

[jimbo]

and tbh I don't think there's a person out there that'll disagree with you about the bottom line being talent that wins games. In college you've got all these wild schemes going out there, but none of those gimmick teams ever win the title. I think the last team to win the national championship without a top 10 recruiting class was Oklahoma in 2000.

The only reason Seattle is able to do what they did is because they've got guys on cheap contracts, especially at QB. (Same thing with your 49ers) You can win doing whatever the hell you want if you can load enough cheap talent on your team.

[Avante]

and tbh I don't think there's a person out there that'll disagree with you about the bottom line being talent that wins games. In college you've got all these wild schemes going out there, but none of those gimmick teams ever win the title. I think the last team to win the national championship without a top 10 recruiting class was Oklahoma in 2000.

The only reason Seattle is able to do what they did is because they've got guys on cheap contracts, especially at QB. (Same thing with your 49ers) You can win doing whatever the hell you want if you can load enough cheap talent on your team.

Dude, nobody gives a fuck about why teams can do what they do. That means....0.

[J.T.]

So I'll ask you again and how about a real answer instead of trying to make excuses for a team that ...

won the AFC South (ok ok...hahaha!)
won a playoff game
beat...THE SUPERBOWL CHAMPS...THE AFC CHAMPION...the powerful Niners and twice beating a good KC team.

Yeah I guess the Colts are kinda good sometimes and kinda bad sometimes. But the things they are bad at they are kinda bad at a lot of the time and that's kinda what makes them one of those bad good teams I was telling you about.


Tell me munckin what throws can't Russell Wilson make? At least it doesn't have this ...DUH!...look on his face.


"Next week on 'Avante Perpetuates An Argument Nobody Is Trying To Have', Avante learns that Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck are both NFL quarterbacks, meaning they wouldn't have been drafted if they couldn't make all the throws."

I guess Luck can't throw a game winning interception though.
inb4 "would be nice since he throws so many of them!"

[Avante]

Yeah I guess the Colts are kinda good sometimes and kinda bad sometimes. But the things they are bad at they are kinda bad at a lot of the time and that's kinda what makes them one of those bad good teams I was telling you about.



"Next week on 'Avante Perpetuates An Argument Nobody Is Trying To Have', Avante learns that Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck are both NFL quarterbacks, meaning they wouldn't have been drafted if they couldn't make all the throws."

I guess Luck can't throw a game winning interception though.
inb4 "would be nice since he throws so many of them!"

Did you watch the video....nope!

It's real obvious that RW is the better runner, it's also real obvious he has an NFL arm. So what are you looking at that gives you this impression Andrew Luck is a better QB? Stop with this stupid......he throws more. You ever hear anyone say Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana, he threw a hell of a lot more,.....BIG FUCKING DEAL....that don't mean shit.

One more tiime.....hey J.T. what throws can Andrew Luck make that RW can't, and be specific. Unless you can answer that just what in the fuck are you talking about?

Dude, how about actually looking at that video...ok? I don't think you have a clue what you're trying to talk about. WHAT THROWS CAN'T RW MAKE??????????

[Avante]

What happened to J.T.?

All l I need is for him or anyone to tell me what throws can Luck make that RW can't, well?

Storytime.....

Usian Bolt started off as a 400/200 guy. He spent years running those two events, mostly the 200m. Then at around 22 he decides to start running the 100m, (more $$$$$$$ there) On the track boards it was...."he's too tall, there are no great 6-5 100m guys, he won't have the start, his thing is his speed endurance (which is the 200m) not explosive speed (the 100m). You see the cat had never ran the 100m before. And in his very first one who is he in against.....Tyson Gay....the fastest American ever, so what happens, yep....Bolt totally blew Gay away. So what's the morall of that story....????

[spurraider21]

What throws could Montana make that Elway couldn't?

[Avante]

What throws could Montana make that Elway couldn't?

Montana had far better touch than Elway had, he put the ball in better positions to be caught, Elway having the far stronger arm. Elway had more velocity on the ball, Montana more finese.

[spurraider21]

Montana had far better touch than Elway had, he put the ball in better positions to be caught, Elway having the far stronger arm. Elway had more velocity on the ball, Montana more finese.
Peyton and Brees can make every throw that Montana could.

I'm just saying that it's a bad argument you used there

[jimbo]

Dude, nobody gives a fuck about why teams can do what they do. That means....0.

:rolleyes

You're not living in the pre free agency/salary cap era anymore. Jerry Jones is the prime example of your kind of thinking. Look at what he's won while trying to construct a team in the salary cap era.

[Avante]

Peyton and Brees can make every throw that Montana could.

I'm just saying that it's a bad argument you used there

I'm not the one trying to argue......well if Montana had been a Bronco. That's ridiculous.

Heisman winner Jameis Winston who also won the national Championship had a QB rating of 184 this season. He was amazing! RW had a QB rating of 191 his senior season at Wisconsin. Now add all the things he's done that nobody has done better after two seasons and somebody is going to try and talk up a QB who throws SEVEN INT's in the two biggest games of his career has less TD's, an inferior QB rating, an inferior comp %......huh?????????????

What does Andrew Luck do better is all I;m asking to be answered, as we can see nobody can tell me.

[spurraider21]

I'm not the one trying to argue......well if Montana had been a Bronco. That's ridiculous.

Heisman winner Jameis Winston who also won the national Champuonship had a QB rating of 184 this season. He was amazing! RW had a QB rating of 191 his senior season at Wisconsin. Now add all the things he's done that nobody has done better after two seasons and somebody is going to try and talk up a QB who throws SEVEN INT's in the two biggest games of his career has less TD's, an inferior QB rating, an inferior comp %......huh?????????????

What does Andrew Luck do better is all I;m asking to be answered, as we can see nobody can tell me.
Relax cowboy. I'm just saying the argument of "what throws can luck make that Wilson can't" isn't relevant

[Avante]

So if it's not about passing, what does Luck have that RW doesn't? What logic can be used to say...Luck is the better QB? I;m dying for someone to explain this to me.

So we judge QB's on how they do on bad teams? Then how come all those HOF QB's played on good teams?

[Clipper Nation]

So you really don't see any difference in Appalachian State and LBSt, right?
Here's the difference: Appalachian State plays football and LBSt doesn't anymore :lol

:lolld Fagg:lolt with the bads per the usual

[Avante]

Here's the difference: Appalachian State plays football and LBSt doesn't anymore :lol

:lolld Fagg:lolt with the bads per the usual

This fucker is dumber than a rock.

We are the third largest university in California with 38,000 students we should have a football team,” O’Brien said. “It would definitely add school spirit.” However, if the Beach Legacy Referendum passes this March, it would increase the chance of football making it back to CSULB, according to Cegles and the organization. The BLR would increase tuition by a $95 fee per semester, but it would go to improve athletics facilities. It will include three synthetic grass turf lighted fields, a renovated aquatic department and a 5,000-seat lighted stadium that will have a new track, locker rooms and showers for women’s soccer and for the baseball team. - See more at: http://www.daily49er.com/news/2009/02/23/bring-back-49er-football-faces-many-blockers/#sthash.sUF0zZIZ.dpuf

[Clipper Nation]

This fucker is dumber than a rock.

We are the third largest university in California with 38,000 students we should have a football team,” O’Brien said. “It would definitely add school spirit.” However, if the Beach Legacy Referendum passes this March, it would increase the chance of football making it back to CSULB, according to Cegles and the organization. The BLR would increase tuition by a $95 fee per semester, but it would go to improve athletics facilities. It will include three synthetic grass turf lighted fields, a renovated aquatic department and a 5,000-seat lighted stadium that will have a new track, locker rooms and showers for women’s soccer and for the baseball team. - See more at: http://www.daily49er.com/news/2009/02/23/bring-back-49er-football-faces-many-blockers/#sthash.sUF0zZIZ.dpuf
That's an article from 2009 about the possibility of bringing football back, dumbass, do you even read the shit you post? :lol

Long Beach State stopped playing football in 1991PERIOD

[jimbo]

I don't get it. Are you saying they don't exist or they do? That was from 2009...


The possibility of a team returning has been a much-gnawed over possibility, but it’s unlikely to happen. Severson, long embittered by that fact, has developed a sense of humor about it. “If (LBSU alum) Steven Spielberg endows it without about $25 million, or if I hit an oil field next week, maybe,” he says. Until that time, 49er fans of old will have their memories, and current students will have their “Undefeated Since 1991” shirts, supporting the school’s most popular team—which just so happens to not exist anymore.

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/20130828/long-beach-state-football-undefeated-since-1991

[Avante]

That's an article from 2009 about the possibility of bringing football back, dumbass, do you even read the shit you post? :lol

Long Beach State stopped playing football in 1991PERIOD

Everyone knows that dummy especially a Cali guy who can run down the few stud players like Terry Metcalf that they had. Keep in mind moron, big track fan here, which knows there are no 49er track guy playing football also. The point was this ya dumb fuck......a school that might bring back back football sometime would stand no chance............:rolleyes

Ever heard of ....The Pike?

Like talking to a little kid.

[Clipper Nation]

Everyone knows that dummy especially a Cali guy who can run down the few stud players like Terry Metcalf that they had. Keep in mind moron, big track fan here, which know thee are no 49e track guy playing football also. The point was the dumb fuck......a school that might bring back back football sometime would stand no chance............j

Like talking to a little kid.
No, you were wrong and now you're trying to :downspin: dat shit per the usual :lol

[Avante]

No, you were wrong and now you're trying to :downspin: dat shit per the usual :lol

Dummy, tell me what conference would LBSt play in? Now think moron. So you really think all these years a guy as deep into football as I am wouldn't have noticed that a school the size of LBSt isn't playing San Diego State or Fresno State or San Jose State?

How come I never read about them in the paper or in any magazines?

Dude, do you work at being an idiot?

A guy who can sit here right now and rattle off every college footballer of note from any Cali school and he thinks LBST is still playing football, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Dummy, tell me what conference would LBSt play in?

The Avante's An :lolld Fagg:lolt Conference

[Avante]

The Avante's An :lolld Fagg:lolt Conference

Just as I supected, ya now feel more stupid than usual.

Dude, did you really think I thought LBSt still had a football team? You honestly have never figured out I keep up on football and track and that connection?

Terry Metcalf the best 49er ever was a 25=10 long jumper (son Eric 27-8 best ever by any NFLer) while there. Wouldn't you think I'd notice no other Cali schools have LBSt on their schedule and there are no track guys playing football for the 49ers.

Dude, how about giving it a rest ok, ya keep looking totally stupid and it's annoying, ok? I'm seriously thinking about cutting ya loose amigo, your stupidity is getting to be too much. You never add anything because ya don't know anything and you're no match for me so there is no fun there. What do I gain by wasting my time talking to an obvious moron?

This is Long Beach State;s fantasy 4x1 team...

Ricky Jackson
Curtis Biggers
Ernest London
Danny Moore

..but I think they still have a football team ,hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!