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djohn2oo8
02-07-2014, 03:02 PM
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Anthony Davis will be named to Western Conference All-Star team, as injury replacement for Kobe Bryant, source says.

StrengthAndHonor
02-07-2014, 03:03 PM
Awesome! He deserves it.

spurraider21
02-07-2014, 03:03 PM
he should be starting

StrengthAndHonor
02-07-2014, 03:03 PM
he should be starting
Why

Arnold Toht
02-07-2014, 03:03 PM
Awesome! He deserves it.

Look at the 0-timer talk.

StrengthAndHonor
02-07-2014, 03:06 PM
Look at the 0-timer talk.

Filling your roster with D League players :lol

spurraider21
02-07-2014, 03:07 PM
Why
because he is one of the 3 best "froncourt players" in the western conference.

StrengthAndHonor
02-07-2014, 03:11 PM
because he is one of the 3 best "froncourt players" in the western conference.
Doesn't explain why he deserves it over two other "front court" players.

What's Davis' reasoning for starting over Dwight and Love?

Can't be stats because Love is better and it can't be because of wins because Howard's team has more wins as well.

testies
02-07-2014, 03:18 PM
Davis is such a breath of fresh air (personality wise) compared to grade A cunts like Dwight, Love and Blake (this one just carries himself in a way that ticks me off).. he'll be a much better player than all of them too when its all said and done

ambchang
02-07-2014, 03:27 PM
Doesn't explain why he deserves it over two other "front court" players.

What's Davis' reasoning for starting over Dwight and Love?

Can't be stats because Love is better and it can't be because of wins because Howard's team has more wins as well.


Davis doesn't have to replace both, he only has to replace one, so either of your explanations would suffice.

spurraider21
02-07-2014, 03:32 PM
He's better than either of those two, but especially Love

Texas_Ranger
02-07-2014, 03:37 PM
lol @ no Dragic

RsxPiimp
02-07-2014, 03:52 PM
He's better than either of those two, but especially Love

So a guy who is averaging less points, rebounds, efficiency and playing on a much worst team is better:lol

I like Davis but it's not his time yet. And I agree, Dragoc should've been there. If you want to reward winning, he should be in

smaka
02-07-2014, 04:13 PM
Where is my man Dragic? Lol this league is bullshit. Lillard, Irving, J:lolhnson, Love, making it, while top 3 PG in the league doesn't.

Texas_Ranger
02-07-2014, 04:23 PM
Dragic should cancel his participation in the skills challenge tbh.

oh and if they are picking losers why not pick Cousins who is better than Davis?? It's nice that the guy's on the all star team just cause the game is in NO.

spurraider21
02-07-2014, 04:43 PM
So a guy who is averaging less points, rebounds, efficiency and playing on a much worst team is better:lol

I like Davis but it's not his time yet. And I agree, Dragoc should've been there. If you want to reward winning, he should be in
Davis scores more than Howard and is more efficient than Love so I have no clue who this mystery player is that you are comparing Davis to :rollin

RsxPiimp
02-07-2014, 05:14 PM
Davis scores more than Howard and is more efficient than Love so I have no clue who this mystery player is that you are comparing Davis to :rollin

Love has a higher PER and TS%. He also scores and rebounds more than Davis :lol it's. It a mystery tbh, you just need to man up and admit you made a mistake proclaiming Davis deserved to start over Howard or Love.:lol

AchillesHeel
02-07-2014, 05:16 PM
lol @ Lakers cutting Manny GOAT Harris, when they only have like 6 players that aren't injured on their roster :lol

spurraider21
02-07-2014, 05:23 PM
Love has a higher PER and TS%. He also scores and rebounds more than Davis :lol it's. It a mystery tbh, you just need to man up and admit you made a mistake proclaiming Davis deserved to start over Howard or Love.:lol
Well if you are taking TS% it's different obviously. Typical marks of efficiency are fg% and turnovers imo

TS% assumes that shooting 33.3% from 3 is just as efficient as shooting 50% from 2. The math makes it seem so, but we all know 33% from 3 is crap. It's a flawed stat. Oh and disregard defense which is half of the game. Oh wait ur a laker fan. Ignoring defense is your shtick

HarlemHeat37
02-07-2014, 05:23 PM
Davis is probably the best big man in the league, tbh, not sure how anybody could think Cousins is better than him:lol..Love is a much better offensive player, but obviously levels below him as a defender..

Imagine how good Davis could be with decent teammates and a White coach, too..

AchillesHeel
02-07-2014, 05:26 PM
One faggot replaces another, what a fucking surprise.

RsxPiimp
02-07-2014, 05:28 PM
Well if you are taking TS% it's different obviously. Typical marks of efficiency are fg% and turnovers imo

TS% assumes that shooting 33.3% from 3 is just as efficient as shooting 50% from 2. The math makes it seem so, but we all know 33% from 3 is crap. It's a flawed stat. Oh and disregard defense which is half of the game. Oh wait ur a laker fan. Ignoring defense is your shtick
That's retarded. Basing a players efficiency on FG% is outdated. PER and TS% will give you a better outlook.an if you want to talk defense, Howard is still the better defensive player than Davis.

:lol

gnsf0946
02-07-2014, 05:35 PM
he likes it in the ass tbh...

http://i.imgur.com/FZvTDrz.gif

spurraider21
02-07-2014, 05:36 PM
That's retarded. Basing a players efficiency on FG% is outdated. PER and TS% will give you a better outlook.an if you want to talk defense, Howard is still the better defensive player than Davis.

:lol
I like that you are quick to ditch the Kevin love argument. TS benefits anybody who takes a lot of 3's and makes them even at a mediocre percentage. According to TS formula, 35% from 3 is more efficient than 52% from 2

TSA
02-07-2014, 05:46 PM
Davis is probably the best big man in the league, tbh, not sure how anybody could think Cousins is better than him:lol..Love is a much better offensive player, but obviously levels below him as a defender..

Imagine how good Davis could be with decent teammates and a White coach, too..

Cousins can take over and dominate a game in the paint, that wins playoff games. Davis can not and has not, and I love Davis. They play different games so the comparison isn't an easy one.

Darth_Pelican
02-07-2014, 06:28 PM
Davis, Dragic, and Cousins were all snubs, but the nod went to Davis because the game is in New Orleans. If the game were in Phoenix, Dragic would have got the replacement. If in Sacramento, then Cousins. It's dumb to sit here and argue about who "deserved it the most", because that is not how the decision was made.

Koolaid_Man
02-07-2014, 06:47 PM
I'm sure Kobe had something to do with Dwert not being picked - :lol

LkrFan
02-07-2014, 07:08 PM
he should be starting
This. He's the best in the game at his position:



AD
LMA
Love
Melo
Griffin

djohn2oo8
02-07-2014, 07:10 PM
I'm sure Kobe had something to do with Dwert not being picked - :lol
He's been picked. Try again.

LkrFan
02-07-2014, 07:11 PM
lol @ no Tammy...
...yet he once made it with 13/8 numbers as a center when he supposed to be the GOAT Power Fag. :lol

Clipper Nation
02-07-2014, 07:24 PM
...yet he once made it with 13/8 numbers as a center when he supposed to be the GOAT Power Fag. :lol

Much like how Kirby only got 1* MVP when he was supposed to be one of the greatest Shooting Gays :lol

Koolaid_Man
02-07-2014, 07:28 PM
He's been picked. Try again.

the retard repping the West....how much did he beg...:lol

Texas_Ranger
02-07-2014, 08:14 PM
...yet he once made it with 13/8 numbers as a center when he supposed to be the GOAT Power Fag. :lol

yea, that was weird, but a lot of bigs did it with even worse stats. Chandler last year.

LkrFan
02-07-2014, 08:44 PM
Much like how Kirby only got 1* MVP when he was supposed to be one of the greatest Shooting Gays :lol
:lol

Rogue
02-07-2014, 11:01 PM
unibrow deserves it and it's a smart pick for the league because nigga will help to ignite the audience more than any other star would since the game is played in NO.

fevertrees
02-07-2014, 11:16 PM
unibrow deserves it and it's a smart pick for the league because nigga will help to ignite the audience more than any other star would since the game is played in NO.

New Orleans people never go to games much less be able to afford tickets to the game!

jimbo
02-08-2014, 12:19 AM
Doesn't explain why he deserves it over two other "front court" players.

What's Davis' reasoning for starting over Dwight and Love?

Can't be stats because Love is better and it can't be because of wins because Howard's team has more wins as well.

Davis is everything you could want in a big man in 2014. Versatile on offense and probably a DPOY candidate. (Well he will be based on his block #s alone)

Love ain't far behind tbh, but he needs a defensive minded center to mask his deficiencies. (Not Pekovic) I'd take Davis over him because it should be easier to put a roster around him. Dwight's just living on reputation right now compared to Davis.

StrengthAndHonor
02-08-2014, 12:20 AM
Well if you are taking TS% it's different obviously. Typical marks of efficiency are fg% and turnovers imo

TS% assumes that shooting 33.3% from 3 is just as efficient as shooting 50% from 2. The math makes it seem so, but we all know 33% from 3 is crap. It's a flawed stat. Oh and disregard defense which is half of the game. Oh wait ur a laker fan. Ignoring defense is your shtick
Going by FG% to evaluate one's efficiency? What is this 1990? :lol

Advance metrics are better for a reason. TS% and PER are both better than determining a players efficiency. PER especially subtracts the negative accomplishments .

Bynumite
02-08-2014, 12:22 AM
Much like how Kirby only got 1* MVP when he was supposed to be one of the greatest Shooting Gays :lol

Meanwhile CPFlop is still ringless and a WCF virgin and only has an all star mvp to show for 9 years in the league :lmao

StrengthAndHonor
02-08-2014, 12:24 AM
Davis is everything you could want in a big man in 2014. Versatile on offense and probably a DPOY candidate. (Well he will be based on his block #s alone)

Love ain't far behind tbh, but he needs a defensive minded center to mask his deficiencies. (Not Pekovic) I'd take Davis over him because it should be easier to put a roster around him. Dwight's just living on reputation right now compared to Davis.

Davis is quite an athlete, he will be the best big man next year, without question, but it's a moot point. The starters are voted by the fans. Anyway, If you're going by value, it's hard to tell, both players are really not leading their respective teams to a playoff berth. Davis is an active defensive player but Love can give you buckets while also rebounding at a higher rate.

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 12:29 AM
Going by FG% to evaluate one's efficiency? What is this 1990? :lol

Advance metrics are better for a reason. TS% and PER are both better than determining a players efficiency. PER especially subtracts the negative accomplishments .
TS% and eFG% are incredibly flawed for the reasons I have already posted above. A player shooting 35% from 3 (a bad percentage) is deemed more efficient than a player shooting 52% from 2 (a very efficient figure).

And :lol at PER "taking out the negativeS. It's literally just turnovers lol

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 12:33 AM
^^^So the bottom-line from this nigga, is FG%> than TS% and PER when assessing a players efficiency?

:lmao

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 12:44 AM
PER includes stats like blocks and rebounds. Dafuq does that have to do with being efficient?

is a 3 point specialist efficient if he is shooting 35% from 3? Please answer that

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 12:47 AM
PER includes stats like blocks and rebounds. Dafuq does that have to do with being efficient?

So, you stick with FG% being the better evaluation of efficiency over TS% and PER?

You can't be this stupid.

LkrFan
02-08-2014, 12:49 AM
Meanwhile CPFlop is still ringless and a WCF virgin and only has an all star mvp to show for 9 years in the league :lmao
:rollin :lmao :rollin

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 12:57 AM
Much like how Kirby only got 1* MVP when he was supposed to be one of the greatest Shooting Gays :lol

:downspin: this shit

private gay party :lol

http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/TankLebronnew.jpg

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 12:58 AM
So, you stick with FG% being the better evaluation of efficiency over TS% and PER?

You can't be this stupid.
Is a 35% three point specialist efficient?

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 01:07 AM
Is a 35% three point specialist efficient?

Don't answer my question with another question. Tell me, is FG% a better calculator of efficiency over TS% and PER? Then Ill answer yours.

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 01:11 AM
Don't answer my question with another question. Tell me, is FG% a better calculator of efficiency over TS% and PER? Then Ill answer yours.
I think a number of things should be taken into consideration, but yeah fg% is my starting point, not TS%. I think there is a curve based on the position/role of the player as well

ok now answer my questions

1) is a 35% 3 point specialist an efficient player?
2) is a post player who doesn't take 3's efficient if he shoots 52% from the field?
3) which would you rather have from an efficiency standpoint?

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 01:27 AM
I think a number of things should be taken into consideration, but yeah fg% is my starting point, not TS%

ok now answer my questions

1) is a 35% 3 point specialist an efficient player?
2) is a post player who doesn't take 3's efficient if he shoots 52% from the field?

You don't pick a stat and ask if Player A is efficient or not, that defeats the purpose of the formula. There's a reason why TS% and PER calculates all the vital statistics and puts it in APBR metrics and why it has taken over the game to analyze a player's efficiency. It is intended to more accurately calculate a player's shooting than field goal percentage, free throw percentage, and three-point field goal percentage taken individually. It rolls them up into a score for every player in the league.


For both of your questions, if a post player can shoot 52% from the field but fails to shoot above 60% from the line, I would call him a liability. See Dwight.

But it's reckless to believe that one part of an entire complex data is the only factor of statistical contributions. PER and TS% will give you a much better look rather than pointing a single weak shit like FG%.

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 01:29 AM
None of these players attempt a single free throw or commit a single turnover. Answer the questions

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 01:32 AM
That's stupid bro. Are they playing H-O-R-S-E? :lol

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 01:38 AM
I answered your question. Answer mine

if it tickles ur dick I'll say they both shoot exactly 79% free throws on 3.1 attempts per game and both average 1.4 turnovers

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 01:41 AM
I can't answer that tbh :lol None of it make sense.

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 01:46 AM
:lmao faggot. Which part didn't make sense? They have identical figures except for their shots from the field. Here ill dumb it down for you

which is a more efficient figure? 35% from three or 52% from 2

dont worry you fuck we all already know the answer. Just come out and say it

CitizenDwayne
02-08-2014, 01:51 AM
Congrats to Davis. The kid is incredible to watch, and has a hell of a future in store.

On a semi-related note, it's unbelievable how quickly Blake has went from being overrated to being criminally underrated (at least on here).

RsxPiimp
02-08-2014, 01:55 AM
:lmao faggot. Which part didn't make sense? They have identical figures except for their shots from the field. Here ill dumb it down for you

which is a more efficient figure? 35% from three or 52% from 2

dont worry you fuck we all already know the answer. Just come out and say it

Wow, you're a fucking retard. Go back to watching 90's basketball seriously. I was taking it easy on you, but your retardation is just on another level asking someone to analyze a player by selecting two stupid examples.

There's no way you can escape the fact that you spent hours arguing FG%> PER and TS%

Now go clean your shit homie and pat yourself in the back for doing a great job.

:toast

Arnold Toht
02-08-2014, 01:57 AM
^Good lord.

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 02:00 AM
Wow, you're a fucking retard. Go back to watching 90's basketball seriously. I was taking it easy on you, but your retardation is just on another level asking someone to analyze a player by selecting two stupid examples.

There's no way you can escape the fact that you spent hours arguing FG%> PER and TS%

Now go clean your shit homie and pat yourself in the back for doing a great job.

:toast
you haven't been able to answer a simple question for the past 10 hours tbh :lol

HarlemHeat37
02-08-2014, 02:06 AM
:lol

eFG% >> TS% >>>>>> FG%, tbh..

spurraider21
02-08-2014, 02:50 AM
Fg% isn't an end all be all but eFG and TS make assumptions that don't hold true