Russell Wilson had the best....

[Avante]

..stats/more success than any two year...**NFC**..QB in history.

No...

Joe Montana
Aaron Rodgers
Brett Favre
Steve Young
Fran Tarkenton
Troy Aikman
Matt Hasselbeck
Marc Bulger
Michael Vick
Jim McMahan
Tommy Kramer
Phil Simms
Eli Manning
Bobby Layne
John Brodie
Steve Bartkowski
Archie Manning
Donovan McNabb
Randall Cunningham
Steve Beurlien
Jeff Garcia
Jake Plummer
Dave Kreig
Joe Theisman
Slingin' Sammy Baugh
Matt Ryan
Doug Williams
Bart Starr
Drew Brees
Vinny Testerverde
Cam Newton
Joe Kapp
Y.A.Tittle
Jim Everett
Trent Dilfer
Steve Deberg
Jake Delhomme
Kurt Warner
Billy Kilmer
Norm Van Brocklin
Jay Cutler
Roger Staubach
Milt Plum
Matthew Stafford
Sam Bradford
Brad Johnson
Chris Miller
Jeff George
Chris Chandler
Bobby Hebert
Aaron Brooks
Roman Gabriel
Jim Hart
Neil Lomax
Charley Johnson
Gary Daneilson
Wade Wison
Daunte Culpepper
Christian Ponder
Scott Mitchell
Earl Morrall
Bill Wade
Tommy Thompson
Charlie Conerly
Kerry Collins
Danny White
Mark Rypien
Lynn Dickey
Tobin Rote
Jim Harbaugh
Erik Kramer
Rick Meier
Eric Hipple
Gary Daneilson
Sid Luckman
Sonny Jurgenson
Bob Waterfield
Norm Snead
Ron Jaworski
"Dandy" Don Meredith
Tony Romo
Jim Zorn

...can't match up. Anyone disagree?

14 Hall of Famers or going to be up there.

[J.T.]

Translation
=====================
I got owned in the other thread and didn't want to reply there so people wouldn't see the post above mine

[Avante]

Translation
=====================
I got owned in the other thread and didn't want to reply there so people wouldn't see the post above mine

That took awhile little guy, and I still missed a few. When have you ever seen me miss a chance to beat up on midgets?

[Spur-Addict]

Beating up midgets isn't exactly the most ethical decision. I guess your sex life while in the armed services wasn't either, I sense a pattern...

[Avante]

Beating up midgets isn't exactly the most ethical decision. I guess your sex life while in the armed services wasn't either, I sense a pattern...

I really am amazed at how naive people are about sex and the military man. Imagine this....a naval base on the shores of Olongopo City, a city that relies heavy on selling sex. Shit river seperates the base from the city, a city with thousands of hookers. What do you think sailors do on their liberty, hmmmmm....how about get drunk and have sex. This is news? This is unusual? You'd look like a fool doing anything else.

If you have any relatives in that situation ask them about it and they'll tell you the same thing.

[Avante]

I challenge anyone to give me the name of any QB I mentioned above to go head to head with RW when it comes to their first two NFL seasons. I'll do the work and compare the stats/accomplisments.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I challenge anyone to give me the name of any QB I mentioned above to go head to head with RW when it comes to their first two NFL seasons. I'll do the work and compare the stats/accomplisments.

Cam.




Playoffs statistics
Passing
Rushing
Fumbles


Season
Team
GP
GS
Comp
Att
Pct
Yds
TD
INT
Rate
Att
Yds
Avg
Lng
TD
FUM
Lost


2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NFL_playoffs)
Carolina Panthers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Carolina_Panthers_season)
1
1
16
25
64.0
267
1
2
79.9
10
54
5.4
11
0
0
0


Totals
1
1
16
25
64.0
267
1
2
79.9
10
54
5.4
11
0
0
0


NFL accomplishments and records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=16&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]NFL records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=17&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]Rookie records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=18&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)
2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051), 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_season)
First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-CamPassRecords-66)
First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
First rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush).
2nd most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
Along with Andy Dalton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dalton), the two make the first pair of rookie QB's to make the Pro Bowl.
Most total yards by a rookie quarterback: 4,784.

Records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=19&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)
Most passing yards by a quarterback in first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs.Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-Panthers30-23-67)
First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first career start, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)
Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_passed_for_400_o r_more_yards_in_a_game)
First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-CamPassRecords-66)
Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals), vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers), and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville_Jaguars))
First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-68)
Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers)
Second player in NFL history with 20+ pass TDs and 10+ rush TDs in a season, joining Kordell Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kordell_Stewart) ('97)
First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 10+ rush TDs in a season
First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 500+ rush yards in a season
Had a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in the same game eight times, tying the NFL single-season record – previously accomplished by Steve Grogan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Grogan) of the New England Patriots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots) in 1976 and Daunte Culpepper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunte_Culpepper) of the Minnesota Vikings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings) in 2002
Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
First QB in NFL history with at least 500 yards rushing in first two seasons
First player in NFL history to have over 250 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards with a passing TD and rushing TD in a game (vs. Falcons on September 12, 2012 - 287 yards passing & 2 TDs, 116 yds rushing & 1 TD)
First player to have 30 passing TDs and 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
Highest average yards of total offense, career (293.7)
Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass TDs in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning) ('99)
Second most combined passing & rushing yards through his first 37 starts in NFL history (behind Kurt Warner)
First player in NFL history with 50 passing TDs and 25 Rushing TDs in his first three seasons
First player with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons

Carolina Panthers franchise records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=20&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Rookie season quarterback records: completions (310), yards (4,051), passing touchdowns (21), completion percentage (60%), passer rating (84.5)
Highest average yards per carry in a season (5.83 in 2012)
Longest offensive scoring play (91-yard pass) to Brandon LaFell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_LaFell), December 24, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers)
Second rookie to make Pro Bowl (with Steve Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(wide_receiver,_born_1979)) in 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Pro_Bowl))
First Panther to win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Offensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
Most passing attempts without an interception (176)

NFL accomplishments[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=21&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

AP Offensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Offensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_NFL_Rookie_of_the_Year)
2012 Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Pro_Bowl)
2014 Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Pro_Bowl)
Sporting News Rookie of the Year
Offensive Rookie of the Month (1x)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_NFL_Rookie_of_the_Week) (3x)

[J.T.]

I really am amazed at how naive people are about sex and the military man. Imagine this....a naval base on the shores of Olongopo City, a city that relies heavy on selling sex. Shit river seperates the base from the city, a city with thousands of hookers. What do you think sailors do on their liberty, hmmmmm....how about get drunk and have sex. This is news? This is unusual? You'd look like a fool doing anything else.

If you have any relatives in that situation ask them about it and they'll tell you the same thing.

I guess hindsight is a bitch named Mae Ling.


I challenge anyone to give me the name of any QB I mentioned above to go head to head with RW when it comes to their first two NFL seasons. I'll do the work and compare the stats/accomplisments.

Translation
=========================
I'm mad no one else is trying to suck Russell Wilson's dick right now. I could be having it all to myself but it's no fun without the competition.

[BUMP]

Similar to big Ben's first two years

[The Gemini Method]

Similar to big Ben's first two years With a few less date rapes…tbh

[Spur-Addict]

I really am amazed at how naive people are about sex and the military man. Imagine this....a naval base on the shores of Olongopo City, a city that relies heavy on selling sex. Shit river seperates the base from the city, a city with thousands of hookers. What do you think sailors do on their liberty, hmmmmm....how about get drunk and have sex. This is news? This is unusual? You'd look like a fool doing anything else.

If you have any relatives in that situation ask them about it and they'll tell you the same thing.

Justifying having sex with underage girls because of a high percentage of prostitutes? Sounds like a fools excuse, how could you be so irresponsible? Sounds like a social deviant who has no remorse whatsoever....

[Spur-Addict]

Cam.

Regular Season Match ups:

Wilson 2

Cam 0

Super Bowls:

Wilson: 1

Cam: 0

[The Gemini Method]

Cats owned by Wilson: 0

Cats owned by Cam Supporters: Too Many

[DeadlyDynasty]

:popcorn:

[The Gemini Method]

Wilson vs 49ers in playoffs: 1-0

Newton vs 49ers in playoffs: 0-1

[DeadlyDynasty]

Russell Wilson: 0 stolen laptops

[The Gemini Method]

Wilson family : 0 Churches

[Clipper Nation]

Cam.
Playoff wins:

Mark Sanchez: 4

Tim Tebow: 1

Cum Newton: 0

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

C'mon now. Do you really want to do this?

Lets compare the players on the Seahawks and Carolina particularly on offense, and tell me with a straight face that Wilson is the best "up and coming" QB in the game. I'm an NC State fan and alum, I love RW.. he's a playmaker.. but lets not get crazy here. Newton, Kae, and RGIII (eh.. maybe) could take over that Seattle offense and play just as well.

Don't act like Russell is assloads better than Cam.. because Russell would not have turned the franchise of Carolina around from what it was like Cam has. Plus, pull up those first two years #'s and they won't lie. More yards and TD's in passing and rushing than Russell - with Brandon fuckin Lafell as the #2

[The Gemini Method]

Rex Grossman: 1 Super Bowl Appearance

Cam Newton: 0 Super Bowl Appearances

[Clipper Nation]

Lets compare the players on the Seahawks and Carolina particularly on offense, and tell me with a straight face that Wilson is the best "up and coming" QB in the game. I'm an NC State fan and alum, I love RW.. he's a playmaker.. but lets not get crazy here. Newton, Kae, and RGIII (eh.. maybe) could take over that Seattle offense and play just as well.

Don't act like Russell is assloads better than Cam.. because Russell would not have turned the franchise of Carolina around from what it was like Cam has. Plus, pull up those first two years #'s and they won't lie. More yards and TD's in passing and rushing than Russell - with Brandon fuckin Lafell as the #2
:lol Funny how you throw out all that bragging you've been doing about how the Panthers are better and going to beat Seattle next year in order to prop up Cum...

All those stats and nary a win in the playoffsPERIOD

[DeadlyDynasty]

(Backup) Frank Reich: 1 playoff W
Cum: 0

[DeadlyDynasty]

Tommy Maddox: 1
Newton: 0

[The Gemini Method]

Trent Dilfer: 1 ring

Cam Newton: 0 ring

[Clipper Nation]

Billy Volek > Cum Newton in the playoffs :lmao

[The Gemini Method]

Tavaris Jackson: 1 ring; Played in a SB

Cam Newton: 0 ring; 0PERIOD

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/200770/253588_10100220269564917_9633999_48702734_6161313_ n.jpg

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Seattlefan's attempts =


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyom1TxqlJ4

[Clipper Nation]

Seattlefan's attempts =


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyom1TxqlJ4

Cum Newton's attempt to win a playoff game =

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HPhaC16X0a4/UtLpPWardJI/AAAAAAAAFT4/_ejeBK6kDnE/s400/off112.gif

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000206989/Franchise-QB-Wilson-or-Newton

[The Gemini Method]

Steve Smith: 1 Super Bowl appearance

Cam Newton: 0 Super Bowl appearances

[Spur-Addict]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000206989/Franchise-QB-Wilson-or-Newton

May 2013 :lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

May 2013 :lmao

Before Cam's breakout year :lol..

[The Gemini Method]

May 2013 :lmao This nigga thinkin' Cam is the cat's meow :lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

This nigga thinkin' Cam is the cat's meow :lmao
cold blooded

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol these guys are sounding like avante now

[The Gemini Method]

Like a 13-year old prostitute in Olongapo City, Philippines when Avante comes through--Cam is ringless.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Like a 13-year old prostitute in Olongapo City, Philippines when Avante comes through--Cam is ringless.


you sound like that faggot avante when he is studdering on an on about how much of a boner he gets from watching russell play.

why don't you go suck on wilson's dick and s s s sss sp sp spi spit it out junior

[DeadlyDynasty]

you sound like that faggot avante when he is studdering on an on about how much of a boner he gets from watching russell play.

why don't you go suck on wilson's dick and s s s sss sp sp spi spit it out junior
You were throating his scrote in the SB, but now you're changing your tune:lol

[The Gemini Method]

you sound like that faggot avante when he is studdering on an on about how much of a boner he gets from watching russell play.

why don't you go suck on wilson's dick and s s s sss sp sp spi spit it out junior

Why don't you go feed your kitty, bruh. You sounding' a little salty…sip some water come back later when you've calmed down. No need to get your Cam jersey twisted in a knot, bitch.

[Spur-Addict]

Before Cam's breakout year :lol..

:lol Before Wilson out throws him by a margin of 195 yards when our running game was shut down. 320 to 125 :lmao

:lmao 125 Yards from Newton

:lmao Game winning TD from Wilson

:rollin Ball distribution in said game. Wilson threw to 8 different players, Cam? Just 5.

:lol In Carolina

:lmao Before Wilson wins the Super Bowl

[Spur-Addict]

This nigga thinkin' Cam is the cat's meow :lmao

:lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol Before Wilson out throws him by a margin of 195 yards when our running game was shut down. 320 to 125 :lmao

:lmao 125 Yards from Newton

:lmao Game winning TD from Wilson

:rollin Ball distribution in said game. Wilson threw to 8 different players, Cam? Just 5.

:lol In Carolina

:lmao Before Wilson wins the Super Bowl

:lol before our team broke out
:lol we lost to the bills after that
:lol thinking you'd beat us while we were on our 9 game win streak and 11 out of 12
:lol at least we can beat SF in SF
:lol only losing by 5 with way less weapons than you
:lol newton with a way higher ceiling

[Spur-Addict]

:lol before our team broke out
:lol we lost to the bills after that
:lol thinking you'd beat us while we were on our 9 game win streak and 11 out of 12
:lol at least we can beat SF in SF
:lol only losing by 5 with way less weapons than you
:lol newton with a way higher ceiling

:lmao Lost to the Bills

Wait.........................















:lmao LOST TO THE BILLS

:cry But, but, we went on a roll afta you guyz tapped dat ass

[Clipper Nation]

:lol before our team broke out

Your team "breaking out" ended in still zero playoff wins for Cum.... meanwhile, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl :lol

[The Gemini Method]

lol 'a streak' bruh…the Hawks went on the ultimate streak--SB XVIII massacre to boot. There is no discussion left to make. lol sorry DD but losing to Buffalo :lmao

[Spur-Addict]

Your team "breaking out" ended in still zero playoff wins for Cum.... meanwhile, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl :lol

The only thing that broke out was the 49ers on that ass on their home field.

Losing to the Niners at home :lmao

[Spur-Addict]

Only time Cam will ever go to Disney World is on his own dime son...tbh...fwiw...etc etc

[DeadlyDynasty]

No worries, from someone who's had a front row seat to the 15-yr shitshow i can safely say losing to the Bills is lolworthy

[BUMP]

C'mon now. Do you really want to do this?

Lets compare the players on the Seahawks and Carolina particularly on offense, and tell me with a straight face that Wilson is the best "up and coming" QB in the game. I'm an NC State fan and alum, I love RW.. he's a playmaker.. but lets not get crazy here. Newton, Kae, and RGIII (eh.. maybe) could take over that Seattle offense and play just as well.

Don't act like Russell is assloads better than Cam.. because Russell would not have turned the franchise of Carolina around from what it was like Cam has. Plus, pull up those first two years #'s and they won't lie. More yards and TD's in passing and rushing than Russell - with Brandon fuckin Lafell as the #2

dude this is just sad...i remember when you hyped up DeAngelo Williams when talking about how the Panthers were gonna kick someone's ass (I've lost count tbh) and how many times have you posted Steve Smith highlight youtubes?

Russell Ghosh's receiving options are about the same, yeah he's got an unreal defense but Cam had the #2 defense :lol

[The Gemini Method]

Only time Cam will ever go to Disney World is on his own dime son...tbh...fwiw...etc etc

Either that, or that white kid from his 60 Minutes of Play a Day commercial invites him when he wins MVP as the Panthers' QB in Super Bowl LXVII

[Spur-Addict]

Either that, or that white kid from his 60 Minutes of Play a Day commercial invites him when he wins MVP as the Panthers' QB in Super Bowl LXVII

Robinlopez.gif

[Spur-Addict]

How Cam Newton Handles Adversity

8gfplkDiXUE

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

How Cam Newton Handles Adversity

8gfplkDiXUE

:lol bitching about the date of the article i posted but posting a year old video
:lol hypocrite

[Spur-Addict]

:lol bitching about the date of the article i posted but posting a year old video
:lol hypocrite

By that time Wilson already had a head to head victory over Cam, and a playoff victory. Which is something Cam has yet to achieve :rollin. Year later, still no Playoff victory, and Wilson has a SB victory :rollin

Letting Kaepernick smash you at home :rollin

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

By that time Wilson already had a head to head victory over Cam, and a playoff victory. Which is something Cam has yet to achieve :rollin. Year later, still no Playoff victory, and Wilson has a SB victory :rollin

Letting Kaepernick smash you at home :rollin

:lol can't play for shit on the road
:lol 1-0 vs SF at SF while SF is 2-0 vs Wilson
:lol having to use team achievements b/c you know Cam is superior to Wilson

[Spur-Addict]

:lol can't play for shit on the road
:lol 1-0 vs SF at SF while SF is 2-0 vs Wilson
:lol having to use team achievements b/c you know Cam is superior to Wilson

:lmao Team achievements. 310 yards to 125 yards is self explanatory... Meeeeoooowwww

:lmao 6-2 on the road this year including a victory at Carolina Meeeeoooowww

:lmao Neutral field Super Bowl victory Meeeeeoooooooooww

[Clipper Nation]

:lol can't play for shit on the road

Last I checked, NYC was "on the road" and the Seahawks dominated :lmao

:lmao Your takes
:lmao Cum Newton's career
:lmao ZERO playoff wins

[Spur-Addict]

:lmao Can't beat SF when it counts Meeeeooooooooooowww

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Pet cats
:lmao Bossed around by GF's sister
:lmao Evicted over pet cats
:lmao Beta

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

vanilla takes and vanilla insults. it's like dale trashing duncan in the forum with the same repeated shit. why do you think your "boys" (because none of them actually like you CN) stopped laughing at your stale ass insults?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao Team achievements. 310 yards to 125 yards is self explanatory... Meeeeoooowwww

:lmao 6-2 on the road this year including a victory at Carolina Meeeeoooowww

:lmao Neutral field Super Bowl victory Meeeeeoooooooooww

that's cool.....

cam > rus

[Spur-Addict]

that's cool.....

cam > rus

:cry "My takes are false"

:cry Que Irrational take

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao Team achievements. 310 yards to 125 yards is self explanatory... Meeeeoooowwww

:lmao 6-2 on the road this year including a victory at Carolina Meeeeoooowww

:lmao Neutral field Super Bowl victory Meeeeeoooooooooww

that's cool.....

cam > rus

it's funny how he ignores that we played against one of the best secondaries in the league and you played a below average secondary :lol but keep on going about how rus "outplayed" cam that day..

i'd love to see rus make 5 game-winning comeback drives though against NE, NO, Miami and SF

[The Gemini Method]

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qsjp1

[MeloHype]

Wilson's record vs cam is 2-0

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qsjp1

fail

[The Gemini Method]

I'd like to see Cam win a playoff game, beat the Bills and not have to relay on a monsoon downpour to beat the Saints. Or, maybe beat the 49ers at home…but wait…he can't.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Dude I know you think you're being unjustly "e-ganged" up on but this is seriously a retarded tangent you're on. 0 playoff wins in 3 years. Luck won one game less this year despite having no defense, running game, down his best receiver (his fault, but still), and a shaky-at-best O line. He also won one more playoff game. Wilson at least took advantage of a great hand.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wilson's record vs cam is 2-0

that has zero to do with being a superior QB. Seattle's secondary >>>>>>>>>>> Carolina's

[MeloHype]

that has zero to do with being a superior QB. Seattle's secondary >>>>>>>>>>> Carolina'sWilson is a winner, Cam is a loser

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Dude I know you think you're being unjustly "e-ganged" up on but this is seriously a retarded tangent you're on. 0 playoff wins in 3 years. Luck won one game less this year despite having no defense, running game, down his best receiver (his fault, but still), and a shaky-at-best O line. He also won one more playoff game. Wilson at least took advantage of a great hand.

He also had worse stats than Newton and had to play in an opening round match because he wasn't consistent at all.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wilson is a winner, Cam is a loser

:lol the irony coming from a NO fan

bet he was a loser on that GW drive in week 16 too, right?

[The Gemini Method]

meow

[Spur-Addict]

that's cool.....

cam > rus

it's funny how he ignores that we played against one of the best secondaries in the league and you played a below average secondary :lol but keep on going about how rus "outplayed" cam that day..

i'd love to see rus make 5 game-winning comeback drives though against NE, NO, Miami and SF

:lol Making more excuses with a top defense in the same league as us

:lmao Wilson already has a game winning drive against N.E

:lmao Game winning TD in the 4th against SF, IN THE PLAYOFFS

And as far as those other teams, he doesn't need a drive, he just beats the shit out of them

:lol 300 yards against N.O.

:lol Didn't split games with N.O this year

:lol Miami

[MeloHype]

:lol the irony coming from a NO fan

bet he was a loser on that GW drive in week 16 too, right?he was a loser in the playoffs

[The Gemini Method]

:lol buffalo

:meow

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol Making more excuses with a top defense in the same league as us

:lmao Wilson already has a game winning drive against N.E

:lmao Game winning TD in the 4th against SF, IN THE PLAYOFFS

And as far as those other teams, he doesn't need a drive, he just beats the shit out of them

:lol 300 yards against N.O.

:lol Didn't split games with N.O this year

:lol Miami

:lol you can't split the game with NO because you only played them once :lol having to make up achievements to validate your point
:lol not noticing actual facts considering Carolina's secondary was horrible this year
:lol saying russell "beats the shit" out of anyone

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lolbtw, I can't believe I'm defending Wilson...that should give you an idea on how retarded his takes are

[MeloHype]

:lol you can't split the game with NO because you only played them once :lol having to make up achievements to validate your point
:lol not noticing actual facts considering Carolina's secondary was horrible this year
:lol saying russell "beats the shit" out of anyonewe played Seattle twice dumbfuck

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

tbh it pretty much validates how shitty our secondary was by looking at wilson's numbers for that game :lol..

[The Gemini Method]

:lol you can't split the game with NO because you only played them once :lol having to make up achievements to validate your point
:lol not noticing actual facts considering Carolina's secondary was horrible this year
:lol saying russell "beats the shit" out of anyone

:lol @ only playing the Saints once...

[Spur-Addict]

:lol you can't split the game with NO because you only played them once :lol having to make up achievements to validate your point
:lol not noticing actual facts considering Carolina's secondary was horrible this year
:lol saying russell "beats the shit" out of anyone

:lol Played N.O in the playoffs, you know, when it counts. And in the regular season.

:lmao can't count, simple addition

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

we played Seattle twice dumbfuck

ah that's right... i forgot about the regular season assraping

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol Played N.O in the playoffs, you know, when it counts. And in the regular season.

:lmao can't count, simple addition

:lol can't refute anything else said so focuses argument on addition

[Spur-Addict]

http://www.juanitajean.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kidschool13.gif

[Spur-Addict]

Sad thing is that I have no problem with Carolina, or Cam Newton.

:lol NO LyF3

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks (http://12thmanrising.com/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=InPost) fans, as expected, you have made your voices heard on a recent article of mine, Russell Wilson is Overrated (http://ninernoise.com/2013/12/06/san-francisco-49ers-opponent-seattle-seahawks-quarterback-russell-wilson-overrated/).I appreciate your comments and understand that many of you think this view is a little, well, out of the ordinary considering Wilson’s recent success.

Which leads to a quick clarification: I never called Russell Wilson bad.Yes, Russell Wilson is a goodquarterback, but he’s not PeytonManning good. He has shown a knack for making plays — but so did Colin Kaepernick last year, and look what happened to him when he lost his weapons. And even though Wilson has played well, the praise he has earned seems to go over the top.

As for Wilson sliding and running all over the place: that does not help very much when the offensive line lets him get clobbered, like they did earlier in the season, and even the best sliders/divers/sideliners will get a few hits here and there. He has been able to withstand them so far, but I don’t see it happening that much longer.

Wilson has played well, but even good players can be overrated. This is the case with Russell Wilson, a player who has had a good year — even with only 2 games of over 300 yards passing — in a great situation, but also has a seemingly lower ceiling than some of his fellow young QBs around the league.

[The Gemini Method]

Yeah, I'm just bored waiting for my car to be done getting serviced. I don't have any pet cats to toss the yarn ball around with so just having fun. tbqh.

[Spur-Addict]

:lol Thinking he's hanging on when his takes have been defecated on

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

btw :lol acting like SEA would win a game in the dome if they played NO

"but we can win them both at home :cry"

:lol having to rely on the 12th man even in arguments over a forum
:lol fits your team

[Clipper Nation]

vanilla takes and vanilla insults. it's like dale trashing duncan in the forum with the same repeated shit. why do you think your "boys" (because none of them actually like you CN) stopped laughing at your stale ass insults?

that's cool.....

cum < rus

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah, I'm just bored waiting for my car to be done getting serviced. I don't have any pet cats to toss the yarn ball around with so just having fun. tbqh.

Sad thing is that I respect the Panthers. I think we play them on the road for a third consecutive time next year.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Sad thing is that I respect the Panthers. I think we play them on the road for a third consecutive time next year.

you sure do and it's gonna be a fun game to watch, tbh :lol..

[MeloHype]

btw :lol acting like SEA would win a game in the dome if they played NO

"but we can win them both at home :cry"

:lol having to rely on the 12th man even in arguments over a forum
:lol fits your teamPanthers can't even win in the dome :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Panthers can't even win in the dome :lol

:lol panthers are the only team in the NFL with a winning record in the dome clown

[Spur-Addict]

btw :lol acting like SEA would win a game in the dome if they played NO

"but we can win them both at home :cry"

:lol having to rely on the 12th man even in arguments over a forum
:lol fits your team

:lol Didn't need the 12th man against Carolina

:lmao Beat the Bills on the road, something Cam couldn't do

:lol Beat Peyton on the road, pretty sure we can beat N.O on the road

[The Gemini Method]

Even the schedule gods try and favor the Felines and the best they can do after this third consecutive home game is 2-1. :(

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

pretty sure we can beat NO on the road

LOL no

[Spur-Addict]

you sure do and it's gonna be a fun game to watch, tbh :lol..

Worst case, I can still do this: Russ 2, Cam 1 :rollin

While all being in Carolina, EMBARRASSING tbh :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Worst case, I can still do this: Russ 2, Cam 1 :rollin

While all being in Carolina, EMBARRASSING tbh :lol

:lol already admitting defeat in feb

[Spur-Addict]

:lol Grasping at hypothetical's

[MeloHype]

:lol panthers are the only team in the NFL with a winning record in the dome clown31-13

:downspin:

[Spur-Addict]

:lol already admitting defeat in feb

How could I submit to a team we've beaten two straight times in THEIR HOUSE? :lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol Grasping at hypothetical's

:lol you mean like "pretty sure we can beat NO on the road"

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

31-13

:downspin:

12-4

[The Gemini Method]

Joe Flacco: 1

Cam Newton: 0

[Spur-Addict]

Come on man, stop acting like a clown N0 LyF3. :lol

[MeloHype]

12-40-1

[DeadlyDynasty]

Joe Flacco: 1

Cam Newton: 0
Best statistical playoff run by a QB in history, with a SBMVP to cap it off:smokin

[Clipper Nation]

:lol panthers are the only team in the NFL with a winning record in the dome clown

I know for a fact your stat is wrong - the Chargers are 4-2 all-time in the dome :lol

:lmao Reduced to making up stats to prop up Cum

[Spur-Addict]

:lolbtw, I can't believe I'm defending Wilson...that should give you an idea on how retarded his takes are

:lol You'll be defending E.J when your Bills make the playoffs next year

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

9-9 is not a winning record.... BTW, even without that, I know for a fact your stat is wrong - the Chargers are 4-2 all-time in the dome :lol

:lmao Reduced to making up stats to prop up Cum

hey, i'm just going by the "experts"

[Clipper Nation]

hey, i'm just going by the "experts"

"Going by the experts" = pulling made-up stats out of your ass in order to defend Cum :lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol You'll be defending E.J when your Bills make the playoffs next year
I'd love to but I just don't see it. Can't even get excited if they start fast out the gate, after the collpases of 2000, 2002, 03, 08, and 11. They reversed the trend in 2004 but lost the finale at home against the Steelers practice squad:lmao









:shootme

[The Gemini Method]

Here kitty kitty

[Wiz]

"Going by the experts" = pulling made-up stats out of your ass in order to defend Cum :lmaocam > >>>>>>>>>>>> Rivers

[Clipper Nation]

cam > >>>>>>>>>>>> Rivers
Playoff wins:

Philbilly: 4

Cum: 0

[Wiz]

Playoff wins:

Philbilly: 4

Cum: 0how many wins did rivers have in first 3 seasons

[Spur-Addict]

I'd love to but I just don't see it. Can't even get excited if they start fast out the gate, after the collpases of 2000, 2002, 03, 08, and 11. They reversed the trend in 2004 but lost the finale at home against the Steelers practice squad:lmao





:shootme

Non conference home games: K.C, San Diego, GB, Minn, Cleveland

Non Conference away games: Denver, Oakland, Chicago, Detroit, Houston.

Miami twice, Geno Sanchez's twice. It's doable in the AFC

[Clipper Nation]

how many wins did rivers have in first 3 seasons
You mean when he spent 2 out of the 3 warming the bench, unlike Cum, who was "leading" his team on the field to under .500 and no playoffs? :lmao

[Wiz]

You mean when he spent 2 out of the 3 warming the bench, unlike Cum, who was "leading" his team on the field to under .500 and no playoffs? :lmaoSo what yyou're saying was Rivers wasn't good enough to be a starter in his first 3 seasons like the Great Cam Newton

[Clipper Nation]

So what yyou're saying was Rivers wasn't good enough to be a starter in his first 3 seasons like the Great Cam Newton

Rivers: 4
Cum: 0

That's it and that's all....

[Spur-Addict]

:lol you mean like "pretty sure we can beat NO on the road"

Too busy grasping this tbh

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/26/13/65/5815677/3/628x471.jpg

[Wiz]

Rivers: 4
Cum: 0

That's it and that's all....stfu when Cam finishes his career he'll have 4+ Super Bowl rings

[Clipper Nation]

stfu when Cam finishes his career he'll have 4+ Super Bowl rings

:lol You do realize your takes aren't any less shitty when your troll account posts them, No Lyfe Faggot....

[Spur-Addict]

SUVFqvIKSDA

Super Bowl Parades:

Cam 0

Wilson 1

[Wiz]

:lol You do realize your takes aren't any less shitty when your troll account posts them, No Lyfe Faggot....
Faggot

[Clipper Nation]

Faggot
Meeeeeeeeowwwwww

[Wiz]

SUVFqvIKSDA

Super Bowl Parades:

Cam 0

Wilson 1nothing special about beating Peyton in the super bowl so stfu

[Wiz]

Meeeeeeeeowwwwww
Choker

[Spur-Addict]

nothing special about beating Peyton in the super bowl so stfu

:sleep

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

CN's retorts are so predictable

[Clipper Nation]

:lol not being able to handle truth bombs
:lol Amazing how Wiz logs off as soon as you log back on....

[Spur-Addict]

:lol not being able to handle truth bombs

:lol Wilson 1 SB, Cam 0 SB. That's a truth bomb

:lol Match ups Russ 2, Cam 0. Another truth bomb

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol Wilson 1 SB, Cam 0 SB. That's a truth bomb

:lol Match ups Russ 2, Cam 0. Another truth bomb

and Cam > Rus is another..

I'll give you Hawks > Panthers right now tho

[Spur-Addict]

and Cam > Rus is another..

I'll give you Hawks > Panthers right now tho

The only thing Cam can do that Russell can't is run through defenders. That's it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The only thing Cam can do that Russell can't is run through defenders. That's it.

and he can do a superman celebration :lol

[Spur-Addict]

and he can do a superman celebration :lol

:rollin Slipped my mind tbh

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The only thing Cam can do that Russell can't is run through defenders. That's it.

yeah is that so? When was the last time Rus threw for 400 yards? Cam threw for 400 in his first two games as a pro :lol...

tell me who is better in each category:
throwing power
throwing accuracy
playmaking
speed
higher potential

[Clipper Nation]

and he can do a superman celebration :lol
No, Kraepernick can do that too :lol

[spurraider21]

:lolbtw, I can't believe I'm defending Wilson...that should give you an idea on how retarded his takes are
this is enough to show how retarded no lyfe is, tbh. can't believe i missed this shit :lmao

[MeloHype]

No, Kraepernick can do that too :lolVon Miller does it pretty good too tbh

[spurraider21]

vanilla takes and vanilla insults. it's like dale trashing duncan in the forum with the same repeated shit. why do you think your "boys" (because none of them actually like you CN) stopped laughing at your stale ass insults?
:lmao "shutup faggot" or "^faggot" is his most common insult :lmao

has been using giving the same bullshit takes on cam all year, calls everything else a vanilla take

:lmao actually uses the term "vanilla"

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

gotta love that the only comebacks are "lol cats" or "vanilla" or ":lmao __" but no actual intellectual or legitimate points being made.

"seahawks beat the panthers" = Rus > Cam. :lol.. I guess Rus is also better than Peyton, huh?

What category is Rus better in than Cam? he has better accuracy at the moment.. that's about it. and that varies from game to game.

[spurraider21]

gotta love that the only comebacks are "lol cats" or "vanilla" or ":lmao __" but no actual intellectual or legitimate points being made.
you are the one using the term vanilla, as i quoted above

"seahawks beat the panthers" = Rus > Cam. :lol.. I guess Rus is also better than Peyton, huh?
seahawks and panthers are similarly built. both have great defenses and are run-first offensive schemes with mediocre (now that smith has declined) outside weapons. Wilson has had more success, and has outperformed Cam straight up. all the shit about having a bye yet you lost at home to the niners. you were better off not having a bye and having a better draft pick

What category is Rus better in than Cam? he has better accuracy at the moment.. that's about it. and that varies from game to game.
better accuracy, decision making. also the 2 most important attributes for a QB. cam has an elite arm but Wilson's arm is still pretty good and is above average

[Avante]

Just as I suspected nobody wants to try and compare any NFC QB's first two seasons to RW's, smart move!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

you are the one using the term vanilla, as i quoted above

seahawks and panthers are similarly built. both have great defenses and are run-first offensive schemes with mediocre (now that smith has declined) outside weapons. Wilson has had more success, and has outperformed Cam straight up

better accuracy, decision making. also the 2 most important attributes for a QB

:lol again.. so beating the panthers = him being better?

you do realize Seattle has the best secondary in the league, right? we have a great front 7.. as shown by shutting down lynch.. but our DB's are horrible... thus pass success..

it's nothing like a mirror image like you are suggesting... it's easier for teams to pass on carolina than seattle.. it's a fact.. and it shows no representation of who is better

[Avante]

I guess hindsight is a bitch named Mae Ling.



Translation
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I'm mad no one else is trying to suck Russell Wilson's dick right now. I could be having it all to myself but it's no fun without the competition.

translation

Avante keeps kicking my ass. Ok ok so I whine a lot.

[Spur-Addict]

yeah is that so? When was the last time Rus threw for 400 yards? Cam threw for 400 in his first two games as a pro :lol...

tell me who is better in each category:
throwing power
throwing accuracy
playmaking
speed
higher potential

Wilson has the higher completion percentage overall on average. And, Wilson has a higher completion percentage in any one season.

Completion Percentage:

Wilson: 63% (64% Best year)
Newton: 59% (61.7% Best year)

40 Yard Dash:

Wilson: 4.55
Newton 4.59

There's no throw which Cam can make, that Russell cannot. The only plays that Newton can make that Russell cannot as I've said, is running through a guy.

From NFL Combine:

Wilson is an accurate passer. He is a very mechanical quarterback who is consistent in his drop step and thoroughly understands how to move within the pocket and evade when the pocket collapses. He is an athlete and can torque his body to make any sort of throw on the run, and is accurate in this setting. He is a born signal caller who shows command of the offense. He has the arm strength to make the deep throws and the touch to put it on a receiver in stride. He is effective when scrambling and is a classic play extender.

Wilson's height will be his biggest inhibitor at the next level and the largest reason for his late-round value. It remains to be seen if he can throw effectively from the pocket at the next level.

Newton has a rare blend of height, strength and speed. Fierce competitor and emotional leader. Flashes the ability to zip the ball into tight spots. Has a quick, over-the-top delivery. Puts a ton of revolutions on the ball and can make all the throws. Frequently evades the rush for second-chance opportunities. Threat to pick up large chunks when he tucks.

Not proficient at going through his progressions or making NFL reads. Doesn't anticipate receivers getting open, must see them in a window. Inconsistent accuracy due to poor footwork and falling away to avoid a big hit. Despite athleticism, needs to improve his drop mechanics and the finer points of pocket mobility. Numerous off the field issues worth investigating.

As far as potential, seeing as how he as all the qualities a QB needs aside from height, I'll go Russell. Born signal caller with command of the offense. Tons of intangibles. The only thing Newton has on Russell is that powerful frame to truck guys.

[spurraider21]

:lol again.. so beating the panthers = him being better?

you do realize Seattle has the best secondary in the league, right? we have a great front 7.. as shown by shutting down lynch.. but our DB's are horrible... thus pass success..

it's nothing like a mirror image like you are suggesting... it's easier for teams to pass on carolina than seattle.. it's a fact.. and it shows no representation of who is better
Seattle had the #1 pass defense, Panthers had #6. stop acting like you were bottom half. lol "easy to pass against" yet #6 in the league. lol most sacks in the nfl, but easy to pass against

[Avante]

You guys are killing me, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avante....no NFC QB has ever had a better first two seasons
The Midgets...oh yeah, well how about Big Ben.


Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spur-Addict]

You guys are killing me, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avante....no NFC QB has ever had a better first two seasons
The Midgets...oh yeah, well how about Big Ben.


Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop being an attention whore. You're a grown man tbh

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wilson has the higher completion percentage overall on average. And, Wilson has a higher completion percentage in any one season.

Completion Percentage:

Wilson: 63% (64% Best year)
Newton: 59% (61.7% Best year)

40 Yard Dash:

Wilson: 4.55
Newton 4.59


:lol

Cam has documented that on his 40 time he reacted late to the signal, thus the slow time. Luck also has a faster 40 than Cam... but in reality Cam is obviously faster than Rus... it's easy to see in games. I'm not saying Rus isn't fast.. but if you want to go by those 40 times I guess I cannot argue your point.

So Rus is more accurate.. like I already stated. Cam still has a way higher ceiling, more throwing power.. all he has to do is mature his game (like he's been doing yearly) and he can seriously be a top 5 QB on a consistent basis.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Seattle had the #1 pass defense, Panthers had #6. stop acting like you were bottom half. lol "easy to pass against" yet #6 in the league. lol most sacks in the nfl, but easy to pass against

:lol okay.. i guess it's cool to ignore the fact that our DB's were the downfall in every one of our losses... the last second TD by Buffalo... Brees raping us in the second half... the 49ers late pass to Boldin..

[spurraider21]

:lol okay.. i guess it's cool to ignore the fact that our DB's were the downfall in every one of our losses... the last second TD by Buffalo... Brees raping us in the second half... the 49ers late pass to Boldin..
lol if the #6 pass defense is your achilles heel, how did you guys NOT win the superbowl?

:lmao cam led your team to 13 points vs the saints in that loss. NICE. they scored 10 in the loss to SF. cam had 1 TD and 2 picks

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

lol if the #6 pass defense is your achilles heel, how did you guys NOT win the superbowl?

:lmao cam led your team to 13 points vs the saints in that loss. NICE. they scored 10 in the loss to SF. cam had 1 TD and 2 picks

he also led us to 5 game winning drives... pretty sure that's more than your team even won this year

[Spur-Addict]

:lol

Cam has documented that on his 40 time he reacted late to the signal, thus the slow time. Luck also has a faster 40 than Cam... but in reality Cam is obviously faster than Rus... it's easy to see in games. I'm not saying Rus isn't fast.. but if you want to go by those 40 times I guess I cannot argue your point.

So Rus is more accurate.. like I already stated. Cam still has a way higher ceiling, more throwing power.. all he has to do is mature his game (like he's been doing yearly) and he can seriously be a top 5 QB on a consistent basis.

Russell doesn't have to progress/mature. He's there, and he will consistently stay ahead of Newton. He's just a smarter, more polished guy with a top notch work ethic. It didn't take Wilson three years to learn how to lead men, he knew how to before coming out of college. He didn't have to learn how to communicate and be the face of a franchise, he already knew how to. He didn't need to learn how to run a pro offense, he came in ready. All signs point to Russell continuing to out shine Newton despite Newton's physical attributes. At some point potential becomes a memory, and you are who you are. What will come of Newton? Who knows. But he isn't better than Russell right now.

[spurraider21]

he also led us to 5 game winning drives... pretty sure that's more than your team even won this year
it was. but i'm not the one proclaiming the raiders or any of their players to be better than they are. you are the one trying to shove Cum down everybody's throats

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Russell doesn't have to progress/mature. He's there, and he will consistently stay ahead of Newton. He's just a smarter, more polished guy with a top notch work ethic. It didn't take Wilson three years to learn how to lead men, he knew how to before coming out of college. He didn't have to learn how to communicate and be the face of a franchise, he already knew how to. He didn't need to learn how to run a pro offense, he came in ready. All signs point to Russell continuing to out shine Newton despite Newton's physical attributes. At some point potential becomes a memory, and you are who you are. What will come of Newton? Who knows. But he isn't better than Russell right now.

Russell spent all four years in college and played. He is definitely more polished right now. With that being said, that does not make him better. His ceiling is significantly lower than any of the big QB's (Luck, Newton, RGIII). Cam is progressing every year and after this past year, there is no telling how well he could be. If his passing game continues the trend it's on, he's going to be scary good.

And by the by, Wilson is not the team leader. Cam joined the Panthers off a 2-14 squad, and brought them to 12-4. He's had to do it himself. Their offense is depleted.. Cam is pretty much the offense. And he still brought them to a bye and one game behind your "stacked" Seahawks.

[Avante]

Stop being an attention whore. You're a grown man tbh

In case you haven't noticed I don't have to do much to get attention, ok?

[Avante]

he also led us to 5 game winning drives... pretty sure that's more than your team even won this year

Dude, the Panthers ain't never did a fucking thing and if we look at the best players they have ever had they ain't had shit, so cool the crazy talk, ok?

Donald Hayes one of your best receivers ever, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim Biaukabutuka one of your best backs ever, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Top QB...Jake Delhomme....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spur-Addict]

Russell spent all four years in college and played. He is definitely more polished right now. With that being said, that does not make him better. His ceiling is significantly lower than any of the big QB's (Luck, Newton, RGIII). Cam is progressing every year and after this past year, there is no telling how well he could be. If his passing game continues the trend it's on, he's going to be scary good.

And by the by, Wilson is not the team leader. Cam joined the Panthers off a 2-14 squad, and brought them to 12-4. He's had to do it himself. Their offense is depleted.. Cam is pretty much the offense. And he still brought them to a bye and one game behind your "stacked" Seahawks.

What gives them a higher ceiling? Their height, and physical ability? :lol Get real.

Wilson isn't the leader of the team? Wilson is the face of the franchise whether anyone likes it or not. And just because someone is controversial (Sherman), it doesn't make them a leader.

Cam did it himself? Yeah, because he was a part of that stalwart defense this year. I'm not trying to take anything away from Cam, he had a hell of a year, this year. But he isn't a better quarterback than Wilson. He is a better physical Specimen though.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

What gives them a higher ceiling? Their height, and physical ability? :lol Get real.

Wilson isn't the leader of the team? Wilson is the face of the franchise whether anyone likes it or not. And just because someone is controversial (Sherman), it doesn't make them a leader.

Cam did it himself? Yeah, because he was a part of that stalwart defense this year. I'm not trying to take anything away from Cam, he had a hell of a year, this year. But he isn't a better quarterback than Wilson. He is a better physical Specimen though.

The fact that Wilson is already polished. Cam's passing in particular has improvement that needs to be made, and he's improved over the past three years.

Cam was the leading rusher on the team the past two years I'm pretty sure :lol. He does everything for the team.

But whatever.. say what you want... Russell could never turn around a franchise like Cam did.

[Spur-Addict]

If Russell Wilson was 6'5 I'd never have to defend the guy. But if he was 6'5, he wouldn't be a Seahawk, so I'll take it.

[Avante]

I just wanna hear somebody say it......okok Russell Wilson is better than RGIII is ever going to be.

[Spur-Addict]

The fact that Wilson is already polished. Cam's passing in particular has improvement that needs to be made, and he's improved over the past three years.

Cam was the leading rusher on the team the past two years I'm pretty sure :lol. He does everything for the team.

Just because someone is polished, doesn't mean they are not done progressing. Luck is polished, but he is far from being finished as far as his growth is concerned, for example. Russell is getting better year to year as well.

Cam led the Panthers in rushing just one year. And, unlike Wilson, Newton ran a lot so far in his career because of his issues with progressions. Although he is improving to a degree.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

And, unlike Wilson, Newton ran a lot so far in his career because of his issues with progressions.

care to explain?

[Spur-Addict]

care to explain?

His issues with progressions is known and documented, and as a fan of the team you should know first hand. Do you want game tape? Let me go to the vault. Come on son.

His progressions and mechanics have always been a problem. And like I said, he is improving to a degree.

[Spur-Addict]

Look man, I'm not saying Cam will not become a good QB. He has had a good year like I said, and is progressing, like I said. But He isn't currently better than Wilson, and nothing points to him becoming better than Wilson.

[BUMP]

:lol can't play for shit on the road


wtf i thought i already disproved this myth? why dont you ever listen to the intelligent posters here that actually do some sort of research?

Abdallah went 6-2 this year with both losses coming by less than 7 to playoff teams

[Clipper Nation]

:lol If Cum has so much more "throwing power" than Wilson, why were only 20.3% of his pass attempts deep passes compared to 25.5% for Wilson? Why did Wilson have 6 air yards per attempt compared to 4.8 for Cum?

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?pos=QB

[benefactor]

:lol...this thread is one brutal flogging.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol If Cum has so much more "throwing power" than Wilson, why were only 20.3% of his pass attempts deep passes compared to 25.5% for Wilson? Why did Wilson have 6 air yards per attempt compared to 4.8 for Cum?

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?pos=QB

:lol how about you look at this advanced stats for cam's first two years instead of looking at one year's worth.

[Avante]

I had a feeling everyone was seeing what I was seeing and dying to start......Yep RW is something special.

[spurraider21]

:lol how about you look at this advanced stats for cam's first two years instead of looking at one year's worth.
Newton's career high is 5.9

Wilson had 5.8 his rookie year and 6.0 this year. so, all that arm strength amounting to quicker slants i guess

[Avante]

:lol how about you look at this advanced stats for cam's first two years instead of looking at one year's worth.

You really don't wanna go there.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Newton's career high is 5.9

Wilson had 5.8 his rookie year and 6.0 this year. so, all that arm strength amounting to quicker slants i guess

I meant the amount of his throws that were vertical's compared to Wilson. He leaves that out because he is a faggot and tries to sugarcoat points

[spurraider21]

I meant the amount of his throws that were vertical's compared to Wilson. He leaves that out because he is a faggot and tries to sugarcoat points
newton's career high in air yards per pass (or how far the ball travels in the air) is 5.9. he has also had averages of 5.5 and 4.8

Wilson has had averages of 5.8 and 6.0. There is nothing that indicates Cam throws more deep balls than Wilson, despite having the stronger arm

[Avante]

I can understand somebody trying to compare Luck (not here however) to RW but Cam Newton, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

:lol how about you look at this advanced stats for cam's first two years instead of looking at one year's worth.

2011: can't compare because Wilson wasn't in the NFL yet

2012:
%Deep: Wilson 23.9%, Cum 23.3%
AYPA: Cum 5.9, Wilson 5.8

2013:
%Deep: Wilson 23.5%, Cum 20.3%
AYPA: Wilson 6.0, Cum 4.8

Cum only has the advantage in one stat in one of the past two seasons, and it's so slight as to be meaningless.... again, if Cum has more "throwing power," why don't his coaches trust him as much as Seattle's coaches trust Wilson to throw the deep ball?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I can understand somebody trying to compare Luck (not here however) to RW but Cam Newton, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shut the hell up old faggot... cam's numbers shit on luck's this year

[Avante]

It's about damn time.

[Clipper Nation]

I had a feeling everyone was seeing what I was seeing and dying to start......Yep RW is something special.

Wilson is still not as good as your slurpjobs portray him to be, but he's better than Cum Newton for sure :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

2011: can't compare because Wilson wasn't in the NFL yet

2012:
%Deep: Wilson 23.9%, Cum 23.3%
AYPA: Cum 5.9, Wilson 5.8

2013:
%Deep: Wilson 23.5%, Cum 20.3%
AYPA: Wilson 6.0, Cum 4.8

Cum only has the advantage in one stat in one of the past two seasons, and it's so slight as to be meaningless.... again, if Cum has more "throwing power," why don't his coaches trust him as much as Seattle's coaches trust Wilson to throw the deep ball?

I like how you left out 2011, Cam's best year with his throwing... but I bet the reason that they trust him more is because he has more weapons on the outside. Name Carolina's receiving core again CN?

[Avante]

shut the hell up old faggot... cam's numbers shit on luck's this year

Who is talking about one season ya fucking bitch, didn't I make it clear asshole this was......AFTER THEIR FIRST TWO SEASONS...............hell yes I did moron.


Dude, only an idiot is trying to compare Newton to RW.

[The Gemini Method]

I take a cat nap and come back and you're still getting violated like a feral female cat in heat.

Just dust off your Cam jersey and prep yourself for the off season. Losing Hardy or overpaying him is going to hamper Superman's run this season. Need some receivers and a running game or you're going to be back here again explaining while your savior is going to be 1 and done.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Who is talking about one season have fucking bitch, didn't I make it clea asshole this was......AFTER THEIR FIRST TWO SEASONS...............hell yes I do moron.

.. what?

what you just said made no sense. go back to slurping

[Avante]

Wilson is still not as good as your slurpjobs portray him to be, but he's better than Cum Newton for sure :lol

Well actually dummy nobody has ever done it better in the NFC after their first two seasons.

[Clipper Nation]

I like how you left out 2011, Cam's best year with his throwing... but I bet the reason that they trust him more is because he has more weapons on the outside. Name Carolina's receiving core again CN?

I left out 2011 because I'm comparing Cum and Wilson - how am I supposed to do that in a season where one of them wasn't in the league yet?

Btw, :lol at you predictably throwing Steve Smith under the bus now to prop up Cum.... plus Seattle's receiving core isn't exactly amazing, especially with all the time Harvin missed this year....

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Well actually dummy nobody has ever done it better in the NFC after their first two seasons.

Actually, statistically speaking, no one has done it better than Cam :lol

[Avante]

.. what?

what you just said made no sense. go back to slurping

Sure it did stupid....TALKING FIRST TWO SEASONS. So whatever Newton did in his.....THIRD...means nothing.

Sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[benefactor]

I'm actually glad Nolyfe is here. The NFL forum has needed a new 90210 for a while now.:lol

[Avante]

Actually, statistically speaking, no one has done it better than Cam :lol

Be right back.

Rookie

Newton 60.0, 21-17, 84.5
RW 64.1, 26-10. 100.0

Soph

Newton 57.7, 19-12, 86.2
RW 63.1, 26-9, 101.2

Sorry little man it's 100% RW

[Clipper Nation]

I'm actually glad Nolyfe is here. The NFL forum has needed a new 90210 for a while now.:lol

:lol His takes are so shitty that I am actually agreeing with the :lolld Fagg:lolt on something and DD was defending Russell Wilson.... 'nuff said :lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol at anyone thinking that Wilson would have turned Carolina around like Cam did

[MeloHype]

:lol at anyone thinking that Wilson would have turned Carolina around like Kuechly did

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

^ keuchly > any defensive player NO will ever get

[Clipper Nation]

^ keuchly > any defensive player NO will ever get

Dome Patrol > Kuechly

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Dome Patrol > Kuechly

but do you really think dome patrol is better than our front 7..? 3 of the players are rookies

[MeloHype]

^ keuchly > any defensive player NO will ever getdidn't know you could predict the future

[Avante]

:lol His takes are so shitty that I am actually agreeing with the :lolld Fagg:lolt on something and DD was defending Russell Wilson.... 'nuff said :lmao

You truly are amazing, dude your takes are beyond stupid/boring, and you are a critic....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

I cannot believe anyone with even half a brain is trying to compare Cam Newton to Russell Wilson, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

but do you really think dome patrol is better than our front 7..? 3 of the players are rookies

The Dome Patrol was one of the most dominant linebacking corps of all time....


The Saints' defense led the league in least points surrendered and turnovers in 1991, and again in least points surrendered in 1992. The defense also boasted twenty-seven games giving up ten or fewer points, with five shutouts. The four linebackers made NFL history by collectively being named to the Pro Bowl in 1992.
Carolina's defense is really good, but the Saints' defense in the Dome Patrol era was dominant, tbh....

[Avante]

STILL....waiting for anyone to find an NFC QB who had a better first two seasons than RW,

What a bunch of fucking pussies.

[Avante]

^ keuchly > any defensive player NO will ever get

Tell that to...Hall of Famer...Ricky Jackson

[The Gemini Method]

Pat Swilling and Ricky Jackson…man, that D was illmatic.

[Spur-Addict]

Bad take after bad take SMH.

[Avante]

Pat Swilling and Ricky Jackson…man, that D was illmatic.

Sam Mills, Pat Swilling and Ricky Jackson as good as it got.

[The Gemini Method]

Sam Mills, Pat Swilling and Ricky Jackson as good as it got.

I was a young cat back then--I kept wondering just how long until the Dome Patrol would snap Bobby Hebert in half…

[Spur-Addict]

N0 LyF3 just come back and say you were wrong :lol

[Avante]

Bad take after bad take SMH.

Dude, cool the critic bullshit, ok?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217656


As you can see nobody is here to please you, ok?

[Spur-Addict]

Dude, cool the critic bullshit, ok?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217656


As you can see nobody is here to please you, ok?

:lol I wasn't even referring to you, but if you'd like, we can pull up every last one of your shit gambling takes :lol

How bout dem rapist takes? :lol The list is endless with you, you're a walking punchline.

[The Gemini Method]

Yeah, mayne, you were referring to No Lyf3 CaT HoArD3r…Avante got that nervous posting finger...

[Avante]

:lol I wasn't even referring to you, but if you'd like, we can pull up every last one of your shit gambling takes :lol

How bout dem rapist takes? :lol The list is endless with you, you're a walking punchline.

Obviously you weren't referring to me, ya think? I;'ve just noticed you have this bad habit of trying to play critic for some unknown reason. When you are in no position to try and play that bullshit. Who the fuck are you. yep....nobody!

[Avante]

Yeah, mayne, you were referring to No Lyf3 CaT HoArD3r…Avante got that nervous posting finger...

Not at all, I just don't dig guys thinking they are some critic.

[Spur-Addict]

Obviously you weren't referring to me, ya think? I;'ve just noticed you have this bad habit of trying to play critic for some unknown reason. When you are in no position to try and play that bullshit. Who the fuck are you. yep....nobody!

As if you searching my history means anything, nobody is concerned with you :lol

Now run along before you snap one of those arthritis ridden fingers

[Avante]

As if you searching my history means anything, nobody is concerned with you :lol

Now run along before you snap one of those arthritis ridden fingers

Hey stupid, you are in my thread. Just cool trying to play critic, you are too little for that, got it! It does start there.

[Spur-Addict]

Hey stupid, you are in my thread. Just cool trying to play critic, you are too little for that, got it!

If you haven't noticed, you TV dinner eating, military rapist, arthritic loser. This thread has never been yours, and others brought life to it. :lol

[Avante]

If you haven't noticed, you TV dinner eating, military rapist, arthritic loser. This thread has never been yours, and others brought life to it. :lol

Then there's always reality ya little shit, you're the one talking tv dinners, how do you rape anyone when it's legal, and the only loser here is you. And, yep...my thread....you really are a fucking moron aren't ya?

[Spur-Addict]

Then there's always reality ya little shit, you're the one talking tv dinners, how do you rape anyone when it's legal, and the only loser here is you. And, yep...my thread....you really are a fucking moron aren't ya?

:lol You're such a dork, such a lame troll.

[Avante]

:lol You're such a dork, such a lame troll.

Wrong as usual.

I;m actually the one guy here who can talk about your Seahawks going back to the Jim Zorn to Steve Largent days with Sherman Smith running the ball, I know...who?" I don't troll because I don;'t have to asshole, ok?

Now beat it fucker before ya piss me off.

[The Gemini Method]

who the fuck eats T.V dinners these days?

[Clipper Nation]

I don't troll

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Avante]

who the fuck eats T.V dinners these days?

Apparently that okie does.

[The Gemini Method]

So, though, you like your Filipina girls young, is that you?

[Avante]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao

translation

I love Avante, when I grow up I wanna be just like him.What doesn't he know? Hell. it takes me to school talking Chargers.

[Spur-Addict]

Wrong as usual.

I;m actually the one guy here who can talk about your Seahawks going back to the Jim Zorn to Steve Largent days with Sherman Smith running the ball, I know...who?" I don't troll because I don;'t have to asshole, ok?

Now beat it fucker before ya piss me off.

:lol Dork. Got eat your TV dinner with the processed apple preserve you fat bastard

[Avante]

So, though, you like your Filipina girls young, is that you?

Just a young dumbass kid in a world he knew nothing about.

[Avante]

:lol Dork. Got eat your TV dinner with the processed apple preserve you fat bastard

Let me guess your dad ran off with some whore leaving your mama alone to raise you, and all ya could afford were Cracker Jacks (so you'd have a toy to play with) and tv dinners....right? Get over it slick, ok?

[Spur-Addict]

Let me guess your dad ran off with some whore leaving your mama alone to raise you, and all ya could afford were Cracker Jacks (so you'd have a toy to play with) and tv dinners....right? Get over it slick, ok?

:lol You're weak. You probably can't even shop for yourself. If you do, I bet you cart around with the electronic carts with the little baskets in the front.

[The Gemini Method]

Just a young dumbass kid in a world he knew nothing about.

To each their own. I don't see No Lyf3 Cat SkrAtCh F3v3r here so I'm ghost.

[The Gemini Method]

Later Addict--take it easy on him yo.

[Spur-Addict]

Later Addict--take it easy on him yo.

Later. You're right, I will.

[Avante]

:lol You're weak. You probably can't even shop for yourself. If you do, I bet you cart around with the electronic carts with the little baskets in the front.

Tv dinners, little baskets.......hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, it's real obvious you are a grade A ****, ok? Don't try and play this you simply don't have it. TV dinners......hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Little baskets...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually feel guilty slapping you around.

[Avante]

Later Addict--take it easy on him yo.

Ya nothing worst than be attacked by tv dinners and little baskets, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[J.T.]

translation

Avante keeps kicking my ass. Ok ok so I whine a lot.

Your translator app is broken.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol You're weak. You probably can't even shop for yourself. If you do, I bet you cart around with the electronic carts with the little baskets in the front.
He can't use those, they fall apart under the massive weight of his morbidly obese body :lol

[Avante]

Your translator app is broken.

Imagine if RW had of had Reggie Wayne in his rookie year.

[Avante]

He can't use those, they fall apart under the massive weight of his morbidly obese body :lol

Obviously you've never seen anyone 6-2 275 before.

Do I really have to school you on size of frame and muscle weight vs height......also?

You saw the pictures of the track guys in my Fortress of Solitude, how many fat guys are sprint fans?

[Clipper Nation]

Obviously you've never seen anyone 6-2 275 before.
You do realize that your BMI is about 35, making you by definition obese, right? :lol


You saw the pictures of the track guys in my Fortress of Solitude, how many fat guys are sprint fans?
Nice logic, old faggot.... :cry "I can't be fat, I own books!" :cry

[Avante]

You do realize that your BMI is about 35, making you by definition obese, right? :lol


Nice logic, old faggot.... :cry "I can't be fat, I own books!" :cry

Ever heard of Franco Columbo? Dude was like 5-6 200 pounds. Now what chart would say.....Mr.Olympia?

I'll go slow..

First off ya don't get posters out of books, they are called..magazines..ok? Second of all you also saw the football trophies, so this x-sprinter, x-running back is now some fat fuck...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you also saw the bench I use.

Don't know shit about bodybuilding.....either....do ya?

CN, seriously guy, is there anything you actually understand/know about? Dude, ya look like a complete idiot, dead serious!

[Clipper Nation]

Ever heard of Franco Columbo? Dude was like 5-6 200 pounds. Now what chart would say.....Mr.Olympia?
His BMI would still be healthier than yours :lmao


I'll go slow..

First off ya don't get posters out of books, they are called..magazines..ok? Second of all you also saw the football trophies, so this x-sprinter, x-running back is now some fat fuck...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you also saw the bench I use.
:lmao Fatass thinking that posters, books, trophies you bought off eBay and exercise equipment you never actually use somehow make you less obese

[Avante]

His BMI would still be healthier than yours :lmao


:lmao Fatass thinking that posters, books, trophies you bought off eBay and exercise equipment you never actually use somehow make you less obese

CN, that was beyond being stupid even for a dummy like you. Why do you even bother guy?

I have a family idiot, don't you think it would be...."hey what's with the trophies, you never played football:"......come on son, wow!

CN, I gotta pull the plug on ya amigo, look at that stupidty, Dude, you are a total moron and I can't be caught talking to somebody this fucking stupid.

You are dead.

[benefactor]

No Lyf3 CaT HoArD3r
:lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Clipperfaggot taking so much time out of his day to try and prove that someone he will never meet in his life is fat :lol..

I'm thinking that faggot Avante has gotten under his skin :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Clipperfaggot taking so much time out of his day to try and prove that someone he will never meet in his life is fat :lol..

I'm thinking that faggot Avante has gotten under his skin :lol

:lmao Two posts = "spending so much time out of my day"
:lmao Reaching
:lmao Cum Newton

[Pelicans78]

:lol at anyone thinking that Wilson would have turned Carolina around like Cam did

Carolina's defense was the main factor. They just needed something from their offense which they finally got. It wasn't much, but it was enough for their defense who carried the offense all year.

And I guarantee you RW would have been efficient enough to help the Panthers win a ton of games. He wouldn't have to do much with how dominate the entire defense was all season. The defense was the biggest reason for the turnaround, not Cam.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Carolina's defense was the main factor. They just needed something from their offense which they finally got. It wasn't much, but it was enough for their defense who carried the offense all year.

And I guarantee you RW would have been efficient enough to help the Panthers win a ton of games. He wouldn't have to do much with how dominate the entire defense was all season. The defense was the biggest reason for the turnaround, not Cam.

:lol 5 game-winning drives = defense carrying
:lol 5 straight games of winning by 25+ and 4 30 point games in a row is the defense carrying

[Pelicans78]

but do you really think dome patrol is better than our front 7..? 3 of the players are rookies

Ricky Jackson is a Hall of Famer. Enough said.