Biggest franchise tragedy since 2011?

[ElNono]

IMO...

1) Dr Buss death
2) Fredo becoming GM
3) Cobie $90m contract
4) Cobie $48m contract
5) Coward walking for nothing
6) hiring Mike Brown
7) the corpse of Nash for $27m + two first round picks + two second round picks
8) hiring D'Antoni

[Michael Jordan.]

Jerry's death.

[Michael Jordan.]

Because he willingly let Fredo take charge.

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Because he willingly let Fredo take charge.

Though without Jim Buss we're light two NBA World Titles.

[Michael Jordan.]

Though without Jim Buss we're light two NBA World Titles.

Purposely being obtuse after the MVPau facts. Bynum was no factor.

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Purposely being obtuse after the MVPau facts. Bynum was no factor.

Please.

[Clipper Nation]

Though without Jim Buss we're light two NBA World Titles.
Fredo still has zero NBA World Titles without Jerry holding his hand... let us proceed....

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Fredo still has zero NBA World Titles without Jerry holding his hand... let us proceed....

Though it was Jim Buss who insisted on Andrew Bynum not once but twice. Ipso facto without Jim Buss we're light 2 NBA World Titles.

[Clipper Nation]

Though it was Jim Buss who insisted on Andrew Bynum not once but twice.

Though it was actually Ronnie Lester who insisted on Bynum, and it was actually MVPau who won those two titles... purposely obtuse as usual, Dale.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Fredo still has zero NBA World Titles without Jerry holding his hand... let us proceed....

but he has no problem puttin his dick into cobies hands

[Michael Jordan.]

Please.

Bynum gets hurt, Lakers acquire Gasol, finals same year. MVPau.

[Michael Jordan.]

Though it was actually Ronnie Lester who insisted on Bynum, and it was actually MVPau who won those two titles... purposely obtuse as usual, Dale.

CN, shitting on thr parrot...Oh and Fredo fired Lester, who was the assistant GM for 25 years..

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Though it was actually Ronnie Lester who insisted on Bynum, and it was actually MVPau who won those two titles... purposely obtuse as usual, Dale.

You're full of beans. It was Jim Buss. Sure, when it happened everybody made fun of him...then when it panned out and to this day they want to forget it. Uh, uh. As long as I draw breath on this earth...it will not be forgotten.

This, I vow!

[RsxPiimp]

You're full of beans. It was Jim Buss. Sure, when it happened everybody made fun of him...then when it panned out and to this day they want to forget it. Uh, uh. As long as I draw breath on this earth...it will not be forgotten.

This, I vow!
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[Michael Jordan.]

You're full of beans. It was Jim Buss. Sure, when it happened everybody made fun of him...then when it panned out and to this day they want to forget it. Uh, uh. As long as I draw breath on this earth...it will not be forgotten.

This, I vow!

Ronnie Lester scouted and insisted on Mitch drafting him. Then Jim tried trading him. Bynum did not play when the Lakers went to the finals in 08.

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Pimp

[Clipper Nation]

You're full of beans. It was Jim Buss.


Lester won a title as a player for the Lakers. He's been a part of seven more as part of the front office.

He was the first Lakers employee to scout Andrew Bynum (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2748/andrew-bynum) back at the McDonald's All-American camp in 2005 and the loudest Lakers employee to recommend the chubby 7-foot, 275-pound high school center from New Jersey with the 10th overall pick in the 2005 draft.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=6732871


Ronnie Lester, 54, was the Assistant GM in LA for 10 seasons after 14 years as a scout and front office member. His contract, along with at least 20 other Laker personnel, was not renewed when it expired during the 2011 lockout (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=6732871). Lester was a lifer with the Lakers (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/los-angeles-lakers), and was very disappointed when the Lakers cut so many ties in 2011 (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/22/sports/la-sp-lakers-layoffs-20110723).


Lester worked next to Mitch Kupchak for a decade as they rebuilt and reshaped the Laker team around Kobe Bryant (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21869/kobe-bryant) that won two championships, and was the "loudest voice in the room" when the Lakers took chubby high school C Andrew Bynum (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21865/andrew-bynum) the #10 pick in 2005. Lester scouted Bynum personally that year, and told Kupchak there's no way they could pass him up if he was still available when they drafted.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/5/28/4371814/phoenix-suns-add-top-lieutenants-lester-and-connelly-to-supplement
Sorry Dale, you're wrongPERIOD

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Ronnie Lester scouted and insisted on Mitch drafting him. Then Jim tried trading him. Bynum did not play when the Lakers went to the finals in 08.

No way. It was Jim Buss who insisted on drafting Bynum and it was Jim Buss who insisted that we keep Bynum when Kobe wanted him gone.

I've given in on many issues in my time here,,,,this is one I'll never give in on. No fucking way.

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Sorry Dale, you're wrongPERIOD

No way. Jim Buss insisted on drafting Bynum. And Jim Buss repudiated Kobe and insisted on keeping Bynum. Result? 2 NBA World Titles.

To the fucking grave.

[Clipper Nation]

No way. It was Jim Buss who insisted on drafting Bynum and it was Jim Buss who insisted that we keep Bynum when Kobe wanted him gone.


The first time the Lakers saw Bynum, at the McDonald's All-American Game three months before the 2005 draft, they were unimpressed. "He was a chubby kid, 40 pounds overweight, a big lump of clay," says Kupchak. Just to be safe, the team sent assistant general manager Ronnie Lester to New York City for Bynum's individual workout in early June. Lester found the clay hardened and chiseled. He called Kupchak urgently. "This is not the same kid," he said. Bynum had gone from more than 310 pounds to 285 by running in combat boots every morning along the beach in Laurence Harbor, N.J. Nevertheless, he did not receive much affection from teams and reasoned that he should enroll as planned at UConn.

http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1184609/index.htm

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No way. Jim Buss insisted on drafting Bynum. And Jim Buss repudiated Kobe and insisted on keeping Bynum. Result? 2 NBA World Titles.

To the fucking grave.

[Michael Jordan.]

No way. It was Jim Buss who insisted on drafting Bynum and it was Jim Buss who insisted that we keep Bynum when Kobe wanted him gone.

I've given in on many issues in my time here,,,,this is one I'll never give in on. No fucking way.

Nope. Jim tried trading Odom and Bynum twice. Both Ainge and McHale said no.

[Clipper Nation]

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Lester is credited as the scout on the front line representing the organization when the Lakers got their first hard look at the then 17-year-old Andrew Bynum (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2748/andrew-bynum) at a workout in New York in 2005.

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Nope. Jim tried trading Odom and Bynum twice. Both Ainge and McHale said no.

No way. Jim Buss insisted on drafting Bynum. And Jim Buss repudiated Kobe and insisted on keeping Bynum. Result? 2 NBA World Titles.

To the fucking grave.

[Jacob1983]

My Mavs spanking dat ass.

[Clipper Nation]

No way. Jim Buss insisted on drafting Bynum. And Jim Buss repudiated Kobe and insisted on keeping Bynum. Result? 2 NBA World Titles.

To the fucking grave.
Ronnie Lester picked Bynum. Fredo rewarded him by firing him. Result? The Dwight Trade, The Sweep, The Begging, The Rejection and The Tank.

To the fucking grave.

[Michael Jordan.]

No way. Jim Buss insisted on drafting Bynum. And Jim Buss repudiated Kobe and insisted on keeping Bynum. Result? 2 NBA World Titles.

To the fucking grave.

I know it pains you Cully, that the man Vito Buss left in charge was responsible for hiring Rudy T, Mike Brown, D'antoni, firing the scouting department, stating that any fan in a bar can be a GM, hiring his bartender as a scout, firing Phil, trading Shaq, trading Odom, trading Butler, cutting Sessions, trading Four draft picks for the corpse of Nash, paying that loser 27 million to lose games, paying Cobie 50 million to be the lesser team of California, assembling a 100 million dollar roster of losers, being a disappointment to his dad, for Kobe requesting to be traded twice, trading Bynum anyway. This all pains you I know.

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I know it pains you Cully, that the man Vito Buss left in charge was responsible for hiring Rudy T, Mike Brown, D'antoni, firing the scouting department, stating that any fan in a bar can be a GM, hiring his bartender as a scout, firing Phil, trading Shaq, trading Odom, trading Butler, cutting Sessions, trading Four draft picks for the corpse of Nash, paying that loser 27 million to lose games, paying Cobie 50 million to be the lesser team of California, assembling a 100 million dollar roster of losers, being a disappointment to his dad, for Kobe requesting to be traded twice, trading Bynum anyway. This all pains you I know.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

salves me.

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To the fucking grave.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[baseline bum]

IMO...

1) Dr Buss death
2) Fredo becoming GM
3) Cobie $90m contract
4) Cobie $48m contract
5) Coward walking for nothing
6) hiring Mike Brown
7) the corpse of Nash for $27m + two first round picks + two second round picks
8) hiring D'Antoni

9. EJ following in Earvin's footsteps

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9. EJ following in Earvin's footsteps

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is queer as well.

[Clipper Nation]

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is queer as well.

Then you shouldn't mind:::Kirby is gay.

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Then you shouldn't mind:::Kirby is gay.

So is Tim Duncan.

[Clipper Nation]

So is Tim Duncan.

Then you shouldn't mind:::Kirby is gay.

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Then you shouldn't mind:::Kirby is gay.

Tim Duncan is queer as well.

[Clipper Nation]

Tim Duncan is queer as well.
Then you shouldn't mind:::Kirby is gay.

[baseline bum]

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is queer as well.

You're just gossiping on Duncan, but your boy got the stamp that proves it. The face of your franchise passing on the gay gene. To his own children. How does he kiss his sham wife with those lips that have been on Isiah?

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You're just gossiping on Duncan, but your boy got the stamp that proves it. The face of your franchise passing on the gay gene. To his own children. How does he kiss his sham wife with those lips that have been on Isaiah?

You've nary room. Your Tim Duncan is a homosexual as well.

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Then you shouldn't mind:::Kirby is gay.

So is Tim Duncan.

[baseline bum]

cub man, how did you root for a guy who put his mouth on his Finals opponent?

[Clipper Nation]

You've nary room. Your Tim Duncan is a homosexual as well.
http://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpg

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cub man, how did you root for a guy who put his mouth on his Finals opponent?

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is homosexual as well.

[Clipper Nation]

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is homosexual as well.

http://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpg

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You've nary room. Tim Duncan is homosexual as well.

[baseline bum]

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is homosexual as well.

Nuh uh. I don't do hearsay. It's my religion.

[Clipper Nation]

^

http://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpg

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Nuh uh. I don't do hearsay. It's my religion.

Nonetheless, Tim Duncan is gay.

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http://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpg

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is gay as well.

[Clipper Nation]

You've nary room. Tim Duncan is gay as well.

http://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4VXRu2H.jpg

[baseline bum]

http://waxmansportfolio.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/magic3.jpg

[baseline bum]

http://www.advocate.com/uploadedImages/ADVOCATE/NEWS/2009/200910/2009-10-23/JOHNSON_THOMASX390.jpg

[Rogue]

4) Cobie $48m contract

because it finally & utterly destroyed Mr. 81pt's image in the minds of most Laker fans (example, lakersarethebesteva). Lakers fans developed a habit of sucking his dick over the past years of his service as a Laker (especially years after 04 with Shaq gone) no matter if he played good or poor, or how many shots he chucked, but finally their hero made a decision sacrificing his team's interest for his own, which enabled Lakers fans to realize the true nature of this Mamba.

[HI-FI]

http://waxmansportfolio.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/magic3.jpg

nigga on the right: "Y'all some muthafuckin queers."

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nigga on the right: "Y'all some muthafuckin queers."

You've nary room. Your Duncan is queer as well.

[LkrFan]

Jerry's death.
-1:lol for having to use '11 and on as a qualifier.

Anywho, nothing trumps:



8
6
The Illegal!
The Cucking!
The Snitch! (Amy)
The Gym!
The Gag-order!
The Divorce!


Now :downspin: ^ homie! :lol

[ElNono]

-1:lol for having to use '11 and on as a qualifier.

don't be salty and take your pick... which is it?

Dr Buss going under? getting cucked by Dwight?

[LkrFan]

don't be salty and take your pick... which is it?

Dr Buss going under? getting cucked by Dwight?
8 tbh. It showed the beginning of the end for the Pammy (Pop & Tammy) era.

:lol

[Arnold Toht]

Purposely being obtuse after the MVPau facts. Bynum was no factor.

With Andrew Bynum we're up 17-16 on Boston, 6-4 on Duncan, and 6-2 on James.

[ElNono]

8 tbh. It showed the beginning of the end for the Pammy (Pop & Tammy) era.

:lol

-5:lol points for dodging... come on Ramon, take your pick...

[LkrFan]

-5:lol points for dodging... come on Ramon, take your pick...
I didn't understand your line of questioning, tbh. :lol

[HI-FI]

LkrFan making everyone use Google Translate since his dumbass didn't learn English phonetics properly, too busy stuffing his mouth full of drug filled condoms instead. smdh.

[LkrFan]

-5:lol points for dodging... come on Ramon, take your pick...

:lol

Bullet to my head: cucked by D12. Once that athleticism goes, so will his game. I'm thinking 3 more year, tops.

[ElNono]

:lol

Bullet to my head: cucked by D12. Once that athleticism goes, so will his game. I'm thinking 3 more year, tops.

really? do you think Fredo can turn it around?

[Rogue]

You also think the grape sour, don't you? But I do have to agree with you on this one, DH is so grossly overrated it is actually a good riddance for the lakers, which'll turn out to be a blessing in disguise. We were also after that DH nigga's whore ass for quite some while, but the difference is, we never begged him to stay and managed to avoid being made a laughing stock :lol

[LkrFan]

really? do you think Fredo can turn it around?
I do. Honestly.

He's been running the Lakers for years. Most fans ignore that fact. Jerry has been sick for a long time. The only time he stepped in was when a major decision had to be made. Otherwise, it's been Fredo. Fredo signed off on The Gift! that led to 5 > 4. Jerry hasn't been running the Lakers for a while now.

Now Fredo has made a few blunders that are well documented. However, he's had some success as the man too including helping us close to within 1 rang of catching them Boston Bums.

Case in point, LA is still an attractive location for FAs. There are factors that go into whether they sign with us or not:



Does the Lakers have cap space?
What direction is LA going in terms of their roster?
How close are they to contending?
Can (FA) get more minutes (and exposure which equates to more $$$) in LA, than with their current team?


There are others that I won't mention, but you get the idea. Let's take our current situation:



Kobe's albratross contract limits our cap space going forward
The only players under contract next year are Kobe, Nash, Sacre, and Marshall (other than Kobe, all are movable for the right deal)
We get a #1 draft pick (I'm hoping for a complete tank job and land in the lottery to get a future all star, being paid on a rookie contract): Embiid


Whether we get back into contention or not will depend on Kobe's health. I'd like to see us draft Embiid (if he comes out) and re-sign Pau for a cheaper salary. Sign Lance Stephenson - because the Pacers cannot afford to pay any more than $7M for him (lux tax). Then fill in the blanks.

Outlook:

Nash / Marshall (who can be further developed backing up Nash and be part of our future nucleus)
Kobe / Meeks
Lance / Johnson
J Hill / Cheap FA
MVPau / Embiid / Sacre

^ That team is 2nd round fodder at best. However, I like the potential going forward. Then Kobe's $24M contract expires (again). I'd trust that we would sign other FAs to replace what we pay him to put together a few more pieces for us to make a run at KD in 2016.

If you look at how the Lakers do business, they always ensure that contracts expire around the same time a superstar's contract also expires. Look at The Shaquisition! - it was no coincidence that we just so happened to have enough cap room to sign the biggest FA in NBA history :lol. Later on, they were after Yao and LeBron - fell through. They were prolly after PG too - but he resigned with Indiana. They're probably betting that KD won't be happy in OKC - just like KG grew unhappy in Minny (should have been a Laker, but we got Lurched).

So I've said all this to say that the Lakers will be alright. I like the fact that they love to swing for the fences (like how we should have had D12 and CP3, but...SMH) . Sure they'll strike out from time to time, but when they connect...:toast

[Clipper Nation]

^ Now back to reality:

Fredo drafts the next Anthony Bennett
Kirby's Contract! prevents any top free agents from going to the Lakers
MVPau bolts instead of signing your dream insultingly cheap contract
LeBron becomes LeClip!
Lakers continue to suck ass

[ElNono]

I do. Honestly.

He's been running the Lakers for years. Most fans ignore that fact. Jerry has been sick for a long time. The only time he stepped in was when a major decision had to be made. Otherwise, it's been Fredo. Fredo signed off on The Gift! that led to 5 > 4. Jerry hasn't been running the Lakers for a while now.

Now Fredo has made a few blunders that are well documented. However, he's had some success as the man too including helping us close to within 1 rang of catching them Boston Bums.

Case in point, LA is still an attractive location for FAs. There are factors that go into whether they sign with us or not:



Does the Lakers have cap space?
What direction is LA going in terms of their roster?
How close are they to contending?
Can (FA) get more minutes (and exposure which equates to more $$$) in LA, than with their current team?


There are others that I won't mention, but you get the idea. Let's take our current situation:



Kobe's albratross contract limits our cap space going forward
The only players under contract next year are Kobe, Nash, Sacre, and Marshall (other than Kobe, all are movable for the right deal)
We get a #1 draft pick (I'm hoping for a complete tank job and land in the lottery to get a future all star, being paid on a rookie contract): Embiid


Whether we get back into contention or not will depend on Kobe's health. I'd like to see us draft Embiid (if he comes out) and re-sign Pau for a cheaper salary. Sign Lance Stephenson - because the Pacers cannot afford to pay any more than $7M for him (lux tax). Then fill in the blanks.

Outlook:

Nash / Marshall (who can be further developed backing up Nash and be part of our future nucleus)
Kobe / Meeks
Lance / Johnson
J Hill / Cheap FA
MVPau / Embiid / Sacre

^ That team is 2nd round fodder at best. However, I like the potential going forward. Then Kobe's $24M contract expires (again). I'd trust that we would sign other FAs to replace what we pay him to put together a few more pieces for us to make a run at KD in 2016.

If you look at how the Lakers do business, they always ensure that contracts expire around the same time a superstar's contract also expires. Look at The Shaquisition! - it was no coincidence that we just so happened to have enough cap room to sign the biggest FA in NBA history :lol. Later on, they were after Yao and LeBron - fell through. They were prolly after PG too - but he resigned with Indiana. They're probably betting that KD won't be happy in OKC - just like KG grew unhappy in Minny (should have been a Laker, but we got Lurched).

So I've said all this to say that the Lakers will be alright. I like the fact that they love to swing for the fences (like how we should have had D12 and CP3, but...SMH) . Sure they'll strike out from time to time, but when they connect...:toast

solid post, Francisco. I just don't recognize this franchise tanking and building through the draft. IMO, Dr Buss would've done everything different. He would've flipped Nash already, and gotten Phil back. He probably would've managed a S&T for Dwight instead of leaving empty handed. I'm not even sure he signs off on that Kobe extension, tbh...

[Arnold Toht]

LeBron becomes LeClip!

:lmao

[LkrFan]

solid post, Francisco. I just don't recognize this franchise tanking and building through the draft. IMO, Dr Buss would've done everything different. He would've flipped Nash already, and gotten Phil back. He probably would've managed a S&T for Dwight instead of leaving empty handed. I'm not even sure he signs off on that Kobe extension, tbh...
:lol - yeah The Contract! is a doozy. No way to :downspin: det :lolne

That new CBA will make the Lakers build through the draft and develop players - at least somewhat. No use on paying $128M (:lol) for a team that isn't going to contend. They have proven that the cap doesn't mean too much to them either. If the right player becomes available, they'll pay the lux tax with the quickness. For now, I'll hope that they land a nice lotto pick on the cheap, and continue to build, making them attractive to a major FA to take the torch from Kobe going forward.

[LkrFan]

^ Now back to reality:

Fredo drafts the next Anthony Bennett
Kirby's Contract! prevents any top free agents from going to the Lakers
MVPau bolts instead of signing your dream insultingly cheap contract
LeBron becomes LeClip!
Lakers continue to suck ass
:lol

[ElNono]

:lol

That new CBA will make the Lakers build through the draft and develop players - at least somewhat. No use on paying $128M (:lol) for a team that isn't going to contend. They have proven that the cap doesn't mean too much to them either. If the right player becomes available, they'll pay the lux tax with the quickness. For now, I'll hope that they land a nice lotto pick on the cheap, and continue to build, making them attractive to a major FA to take the torch from Kobe going forward.

Come on, Luis. Kirby ain't passing shit. Whoever FA it is will have to pry the "torch" from his dead cold hands... this is the Coward 2.0 story. tbh, I think Fredo is more interested in the $$$ than winning (and I think that's the huge difference with Dr Buss)... could totally see him throwing the house at Melo in the offseason, just to get enough "buzz" to sell more tickets...

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Come on, Luis. Kirby ain't passing shit. Whoever FA it is will have to pry the "torch" from his dead cold hands... this is the Coward 2.0 story. tbh, I think Fredo is more interested in the $$$ than winning (and I think that's the huge difference with Dr Buss)... could totally see him throwing the house at Melo in the offseason, just to get enough "buzz" to sell more tickets...

Though without Jim Buss we're short two NBA World Titles.

[Clipper Nation]

Though without Jim Buss we're short two NBA World Titles.
Fredo has won nothing without Jerry and Ronnie holding his handsPERIOD

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Fredo has won nothing without Jerry and Ronnie holding his handsPERIOD

Though without Jim Buss we're light two NBA World Titles.

[Michael Jordan.]

Though without Mitch Kupcake we're light two NBA World Titles.

[Clipper Nation]

Though without MVPau we're light two NBA World Titles.

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^Only pussies & assholes edit another member's post.

[Michael Jordan.]

^Only pussies & assholes edit another member's post.
ok.

[LkrFan]

Come on, Luis. Kirby ain't passing shit. Whoever FA it is will have to pry the "torch" from his dead cold hands... this is the Coward 2.0 story. tbh, I think Fredo is more interested in the $$$ than winning (and I think that's the huge difference with Dr Buss)... could totally see him throwing the house at Melo in the offseason, just to get enough "buzz" to sell more tickets...
I'd be OK with Melo as a stop gap. He's an elite scorer - especially as a stretch 4. However, I'd pry 23-year old Lance Stevenson from Bird. This dude is a baller and a true all star snub. He went to Cincinnati and I believe he's from NY. That tells me he's hard working, tough, and talented - meaning he'll get along with Kobe just fine. He didn't get along with Snaq because he got fat and happy with 3 rangs (literally). This led to The Eviction! and Kobe-5, Snaq-4. :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

I'd be OK with Melo as a stop gap. He's an elite scorer - especially as a stretch 4. However, I'd pry 23-year old Lance Stevenson from Bird. This dude is a baller and a true all star snub. He went to Cincinnati and I believe he's from NY. That tells me he's hard working, tough, and talented - meaning he'll get along with Kobe just fine. He didn't get along with Snaq because he got fat and happy with 3 rangs (literally). This led to The Eviction! and Kobe-5, Snaq-4. :lol

:lmao He's a ballstopping coach killing cancer who would capfuck the Lakers for years.

[LkrFan]

Fredo has won nothing without Jerry and Ronnie holding his handsPERIOD
Me, you and Pau have the same amount of playoff wins and rangs until Kobe took him inPERI:lolD

[Michael Jordan.]

Me, you and Pau have the same amount of playoff wins and rangs until Kobe took him inPERI:lolD

What was Kobe's record without Pau?

[Clipper Nation]

I'd be OK with Melo as a stop gap. He's an elite scorer - especially as a stretch 4.
Sorry Jorge, but you're delusional if you think Fredo would be getting him as a "stop gap".... more like another albatross on the salary cap, just like Kirby's Contract! :lol

[LkrFan]

:lmao He's a ballstopping coach killing cancer who would capfuck the Lakers for years.

Stop gap does not equal long term contract, numbnuts. 5th Ward ISD failing us again. :bang

:lol

[Michael Jordan.]

Stop gap does not equal long term contract, numbnuts. 5th Ward ISD failing us again. :bang

:lol
You'd be signing him for the max. That's long term dipshit :lol

[LkrFan]

Sorry Jorge, but you're delusional if you think Fredo would be getting him as a "stop gap".... more like another albatross on the salary cap, just like Kirby's Contract! :lol
:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Stop gap does not equal long term contract, numbnuts. 5th Ward ISD failing us again. :bang

:lol
Melo is all about money, so he isn't signing a short-term deal :lol

If you still don't understand the obvious: Carmelo solo cuida por el dinero :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

Melo and Love on the same team would just be beautiful.

[LkrFan]

You'd be signing him for the max. That's long term dipshit :lol
Thanks to The Contract! we won't be paying him max, Bushwick Bill. :lol

[LkrFan]

Melo is all about money, so he isn't signing a short-term deal :lol

If you still don't understand the obvious: Carmelo solo cuida por el dinero :lol
:rollin :lmao :rollin

[Michael Jordan.]

Thanks to The Contract! we won't be paying him max, Bushwick Bill. :lol
Lol yes you will. If you sign him, you'd have to renounce other contracts, which can and will be done even with the Albatross.

[LkrFan]

What was Kobe's record without Pau?
3

[LkrFan]

Lol yes you will. If you sign him, you'd have to renounce other contracts, which can and will be done even with the Albatross.
:lol you wish, Willie D.

[ElNono]

I'd be OK with Melo as a stop gap. He's an elite scorer - especially as a stretch 4. However, I'd pry 23-year old Lance Stevenson from Bird. This dude is a baller and a true all star snub. He went to Cincinnati and I believe he's from NY. That tells me he's hard working, tough, and talented - meaning he'll get along with Kobe just fine. He didn't get along with Snaq because he got fat and happy with 3 rangs (literally). This led to The Eviction! and Kobe-5, Snaq-4. :lol

I agree Stevenson is a baller, but I also think he needs direction, something they have on the Pacers, but I don't see on the Lakeshow (at least until Phil walks back through that door). Are you also suggesting he's franchise material? Sorry Ariel, I don't see it.

[LkrFan]

I agree Stevenson is a baller, but I also think he needs direction, something they have on the Pacers, but I don't see on the Lakeshow (at least until Phil walks back through that door). Are you also suggesting he's franchise material? Sorry Ariel, I don't see it.
:lol

No, he's an uber talented complimentary piece.

However, are you sure that a 5x champion can't lead? Don't let Coward's situation deflect from reality. Kobe is a hard nosed, old school, blue collar type player that packs heat every night. I could see Lance taking a liking to him. Just like #24 on the Pacers did. And Bird himself. ;)

[Clipper Nation]

Kobe is a hard nosed, old school, blue collar type player that packs heat every night.
:lmao Do they not broadcast Laker games in Honduras? You clearly know nothing about Kirby if you think that selfish, ballhogging, injury-faking, cap-whoring diva is "hard nosed" or "blue collar" :lol

The only thing he's "packing" is fudge, as evidenced by The Tape! :lmao

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol

No, he's an uber talented complimentary piece.

However, are you sure that a 5x champion can't lead? Don't let Coward's situation deflect from reality. Kobe is a hard nosed, old school, blue collar type player that packs heat every night. I could see Lance taking a liking to him. Just like #24 on the Pacers did. And Bird himself. ;)

No, Kobe is a selfish asswipe who could never adjust his game to make his team better. Who is begging to play with Kobe? Since Dwight paid 30 million to get away, and Earl Clark bolted for Cleveland.

[ElNono]

However, are you sure that a 5x champion can't lead? Don't let Coward's situation deflect from reality. Kobe is a hard nosed, old school, blue collar type player that packs heat every night. I could see Lance taking a liking to him. Just like #24 on the Pacers did. And Bird himself. ;)

Fisher isn't on the team anymore, neither is Phil. The Coward situation is a textbook case of the narcissist making everything about him. He's always been a terrible leader, this isn't hate or news. That's why Fredo coddling him with that contract compounds the problem. Like I said earlier, Rafael, if you think he's passing that torch, I have Lakers playoff tickets for this season to sell you.

[LkrFan]

Fisher isn't on the team anymore, neither is Phil. The Coward situation is a textbook case of the narcissist making everything about him. He's always been a terrible leader, this isn't hate or news. That's why Fredo coddling him with that contract compounds the problem. Like I said earlier, Rafael, if you think he's passing that torch, I have Lakers playoff tickets for this season to sell you.

Can I get them for $3.95 (court side) like in HEB Center? :rollin :lmao :rollin

[ElNono]

Can I get them for $3.95 (court side) like in HEB Center? :rollin :lmao :rollin

Sure. They even include free tacos :lol

[LkrFan]

:lmao Do they not broadcast Laker games in Honduras? You clearly know nothing about Kirby if you think that selfish, ballhogging, injury-faking, cap-whoring diva is "hard nosed" or "blue collar" :lol

The only thing he's "packing" is fudge, as evidenced by The Tape! :lmao :lmao

[LkrFan]

No, Kobe is a selfish asswipe who could never adjust his game to make his team better. Who is begging to play with Kobe? Since Dwight paid 30 million to get away, and Earl Clark bolted for Cleveland.
Steve Kerr's Blackeye says, sup? :lol Pippen was the real MVP of your team. ;)

D12 did us a favor by leaving, tbh. I'm certain we'll win a rang before dem Rockets do. Real talk. :tu

[HI-FI]

I do. Honestly.

He's been running the Lakers for years. Most fans ignore that fact. Jerry has been sick for a long time. The only time he stepped in was when a major decision had to be made. Otherwise, it's been Fredo. Fredo signed off on The Gift! that led to 5 > 4. Jerry hasn't been running the Lakers for a while now.

Now Fredo has made a few blunders that are well documented. However, he's had some success as the man too including helping us close to within 1 rang of catching them Boston Bums.

Case in point, LA is still an attractive location for FAs. There are factors that go into whether they sign with us or not:



Does the Lakers have cap space?
What direction is LA going in terms of their roster?
How close are they to contending?
Can (FA) get more minutes (and exposure which equates to more $$$) in LA, than with their current team?


There are others that I won't mention, but you get the idea. Let's take our current situation:



Kobe's albratross contract limits our cap space going forward
The only players under contract next year are Kobe, Nash, Sacre, and Marshall (other than Kobe, all are movable for the right deal)
We get a #1 draft pick (I'm hoping for a complete tank job and land in the lottery to get a future all star, being paid on a rookie contract): Embiid


Whether we get back into contention or not will depend on Kobe's health. I'd like to see us draft Embiid (if he comes out) and re-sign Pau for a cheaper salary. Sign Lance Stephenson - because the Pacers cannot afford to pay any more than $7M for him (lux tax). Then fill in the blanks.

Outlook:

Nash / Marshall (who can be further developed backing up Nash and be part of our future nucleus)
Kobe / Meeks
Lance / Johnson
J Hill / Cheap FA
MVPau / Embiid / Sacre

^ That team is 2nd round fodder at best. However, I like the potential going forward. Then Kobe's $24M contract expires (again). I'd trust that we would sign other FAs to replace what we pay him to put together a few more pieces for us to make a run at KD in 2016.

If you look at how the Lakers do business, they always ensure that contracts expire around the same time a superstar's contract also expires. Look at The Shaquisition! - it was no coincidence that we just so happened to have enough cap room to sign the biggest FA in NBA history :lol. Later on, they were after Yao and LeBron - fell through. They were prolly after PG too - but he resigned with Indiana. They're probably betting that KD won't be happy in OKC - just like KG grew unhappy in Minny (should have been a Laker, but we got Lurched).

So I've said all this to say that the Lakers will be alright. I like the fact that they love to swing for the fences (like how we should have had D12 and CP3, but...SMH) . Sure they'll strike out from time to time, but when they connect...:toast
:lmao
i only read the first sentence of this shit, the rest was too sad and overwrought.

[LkrFan]

:lmao
i only read the first sentence of this shit, the rest was too sad and overwrought.

:lol

[HI-FI]

Que hago. Honestamente .

Se ha estado preparando a los Lakers durante años. La mayoría de los aficionados ignoran este hecho. Jerry ha estado enfermo durante mucho tiempo. La única vez que intervino fue cuando una decisión importante tenía que ser hecho . De lo contrario , ha sido Fredo . Fredo firmó el regalo! que llevó a 5 > 4 . Jerry no ha estado funcionando los Lakers desde hace un tiempo .

Ahora Fredo ha hecho algunos errores que están bien documentadas . Sin embargo , ha tenido un cierto éxito como el hombre también incluyendo ayudarnos a cerca de un radio de 1 sonó de la captura de ellos en Boston Bums .

El caso en cuestión , LA sigue siendo un lugar atractivo para las AF . Hay factores que intervienen en si firman o no con nosotros :


1.¿Tiene los Lakers tienen espacio en el tope ?
2.¿En qué dirección se va LA en términos de su lista ?
3.¿Qué tan cerca están para contender ?
4.¿Puede ( FA ) conseguir más minutos ( y la exposición lo que equivale a más $ $ $) en Los Ángeles, que con su equipo actual ?



Hay otros que no voy a mencionar , pero se entiende la idea . Tomemos nuestra situación actual:


1.Contrato albratross de Kobe limita nuestro espacio en el tope de cara al futuro
2.Los únicos jugadores bajo contrato el año que viene son Kobe , Nash , Sacre , y Marshall (aparte de Kobe, todo son móviles para el trato adecuado )
3.Tenemos un draft pick # 1 ( que estoy esperando un trabajo completo y depósito de tierra en el sorteo para conseguir un futuro toda la estrella, que se paga en un contrato de novato ) : Embiid



Si volvemos a la contienda o no dependerá de la salud de Kobe. Me gustaría ver a nosotros redactamos Embiid ( si sale ) y volver a firmar Pau por un salario más barato. Regístrate Lance Stephenson - porque los Pacers no pueden permitirse el lujo de pagar más de $ 7 millones para él (impuesto lux). Luego llene los espacios en blanco .

Pronóstico:

Nash / Marshall ( que puede desarrollarse aún más respaldo a Nash y ser parte de nuestro futuro núcleo)
Kobe / Meeks
Lanza / Johnson
J Hill / barato FA
MVPau / Embiid / Sacre

^ Ese equipo es segundo forraje ronda en el mejor. Sin embargo , me gusta el potencial de cara al futuro . Entonces $ 24M contrato de Kobe expira (de nuevo ) . Yo confío en que íbamos a firmar otras EA para reemplazar lo que tenemos que pagar él para poner juntos un par de piezas más para nosotros para hacer una carrera en KD en 2016.

Si nos fijamos en la forma en que los Lakers hacer negocios , siempre asegúrese de que los contratos expiran en la misma época el contrato de una superestrella también expira . Mira las Shaquisition ! - No fue una coincidencia que la casualidad de tener suficiente espacio en el tope para firmar el mayor FA en la historia de la NBA. Más tarde , fueron después de que Yao y LeBron - fracasaron . Eran prolly después PG también - pero él renunció a Indiana. Probablemente están apostando a que KD no será feliz en OKC - al igual KG creció infeliz en Minny (debería haber sido un Laker , pero nos dieron tambaleó ) .

Así que he dicho todo esto para decir que los Lakers estará bien . Me gusta el hecho de que les encanta hacer pivotar para las cercas (como la forma en que debería haber tenido D12 y CP3 , pero ... SMH ) . Claro que van a la huelga a cabo de vez en cuando, pero cuando se conectan ...:toast

[Venti Quattro]

LA not winning the three peat was the biggest one. Feel like Phil deserved a 4th three peat to send him into retirement. Too unfortunate that Kobe's legs were on the brink of destruction pre-PRT and Pau brought his girl problems into the Dallas series.

[Thread]

...and we foolishly thought Cuban and his people hadn't tracked Pau Gasol '08-'10. Attempting to whistle past the graveyard is never a decent strategy.

[TDMVPDPOY]

signing a bunch of wankers from the dleague

forcing another alleged rapists to be franchise player of the team

lmao fakers

[Thread]

signing a bunch of wankers from the dleague

forcing another alleged rapists to be franchise player of the team

lmao fakers

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

[Michael Jordan.]

Steve Kerr's Blackeye says, sup? :lol Pippen was the real MVP of your team. ;)

D12 did us a favor by leaving, tbh. I'm certain we'll win a rang before dem Rockets do. Real talk. :tu
No you aren't. Phil made the Lakers relevant again, and he ain't walkin through that door.

[AchillesHeel]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Thread]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

If I deduce this accurately:::I accept your apology, Heel.

Let us proceed...

[ezau]

6

[Thread]

If I deduce this accurately:::I accept your apology, Heel.

Let us proceed...

My deduction was not accurate.

[AchillesHeel]

My deduction was not accurate.

:lolld fagg:lolt

[Jodelo]

Que hago. Honestamente .

Se ha estado preparando a los Lakers durante años. La mayoría de los aficionados ignoran este hecho. Jerry ha estado enfermo durante mucho tiempo. La única vez que intervino fue cuando una decisión importante tenía que ser hecho . De lo contrario , ha sido Fredo . Fredo firmó el regalo! que llevó a 5 > 4 . Jerry no ha estado funcionando los Lakers desde hace un tiempo .

Ahora Fredo ha hecho algunos errores que están bien documentadas . Sin embargo , ha tenido un cierto éxito como el hombre también incluyendo ayudarnos a cerca de un radio de 1 sonó de la captura de ellos en Boston Bums .

El caso en cuestión , LA sigue siendo un lugar atractivo para las AF . Hay factores que intervienen en si firman o no con nosotros :


1.¿Tiene los Lakers tienen espacio en el tope ?
2.¿En qué dirección se va LA en términos de su lista ?
3.¿Qué tan cerca están para contender ?
4.¿Puede ( FA ) conseguir más minutos ( y la exposición lo que equivale a más $ $ $) en Los Ángeles, que con su equipo actual ?



Hay otros que no voy a mencionar , pero se entiende la idea . Tomemos nuestra situación actual:


1.Contrato albratross de Kobe limita nuestro espacio en el tope de cara al futuro
2.Los únicos jugadores bajo contrato el año que viene son Kobe , Nash , Sacre , y Marshall (aparte de Kobe, todo son móviles para el trato adecuado )
3.Tenemos un draft pick # 1 ( que estoy esperando un trabajo completo y depósito de tierra en el sorteo para conseguir un futuro toda la estrella, que se paga en un contrato de novato ) : Embiid



Si volvemos a la contienda o no dependerá de la salud de Kobe. Me gustaría ver a nosotros redactamos Embiid ( si sale ) y volver a firmar Pau por un salario más barato. Regístrate Lance Stephenson - porque los Pacers no pueden permitirse el lujo de pagar más de $ 7 millones para él (impuesto lux). Luego llene los espacios en blanco .

Pronóstico:

Nash / Marshall ( que puede desarrollarse aún más respaldo a Nash y ser parte de nuestro futuro núcleo)
Kobe / Meeks
Lanza / Johnson
J Hill / barato FA
MVPau / Embiid / Sacre

^ Ese equipo es segundo forraje ronda en el mejor. Sin embargo , me gusta el potencial de cara al futuro . Entonces $ 24M contrato de Kobe expira (de nuevo ) . Yo confío en que íbamos a firmar otras EA para reemplazar lo que tenemos que pagar él para poner juntos un par de piezas más para nosotros para hacer una carrera en KD en 2016.

Si nos fijamos en la forma en que los Lakers hacer negocios , siempre asegúrese de que los contratos expiran en la misma época el contrato de una superestrella también expira . Mira las Shaquisition ! - No fue una coincidencia que la casualidad de tener suficiente espacio en el tope para firmar el mayor FA en la historia de la NBA. Más tarde , fueron después de que Yao y LeBron - fracasaron . Eran prolly después PG también - pero él renunció a Indiana. Probablemente están apostando a que KD no será feliz en OKC - al igual KG creció infeliz en Minny (debería haber sido un Laker , pero nos dieron tambaleó ) .

Así que he dicho todo esto para decir que los Lakers estará bien . Me gusta el hecho de que les encanta hacer pivotar para las cercas (como la forma en que debería haber tenido D12 y CP3 , pero ... SMH ) . Claro que van a la huelga a cabo de vez en cuando, pero cuando se conectan ...:toast

:lmao

[jeebus]

:lolld fagg:lolt
:lol avante's brother

[baseline bum]

Niggas goin in on Hector aqui.

[Michael Jordan.]

Steve Kerr's Blackeye says, sup? :lol Pippen was the real MVP of your team. ;)

D12 did us a favor by leaving, tbh. I'm certain we'll win a rang before dem Rockets do. Real talk. :tu
http://memecrunch.com/meme/17R0L/laker-fans-this-season-be-like/image.png

[Thread]

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Of course, along with queries on the Spurs, Clippers, Suns,,,,that's my litany.

[LkrFan]

No you aren't. Phil made the Lakers relevant again, and he ain't walkin through that door.

:lol - you taking this a little personal, eh Scarface? :lol

Players are more important to winning titles than coaches. PJ ain't no different. How many rangs did he obtain without 4 of the top players in NBA history? That's right: ZER:lol. And he ain't the only coach capable of winning titles. Look at Spo. He's a 2x NBA championship coach. In theory, Pop >>>>> Spo. But Pop went out like a biatch in 6, then was bent over by Spo in game 7. And Pop's probably a top 10 coach in NBA history. :lol

But back to PJ. How did 2011 end for him? Should have went out with 12, but he got sweptPERI:lolD by dem Mavs. Why? He had the players, but _irk wouldn't be denied that year. It happens.

So for you to say "as a matter of fact" that we won't win any titles before your Rockets is bullshit on a stick. Even Rudy T! won titles** as a coach. How'd that work for him on the big stage? IIRC, Rudy T! was the reason we were in position to draft Bynum. Why? Because he didn't have players son. Then he tapped out because he couldn't handle the glaring spotlight in LA LA land. I think he is a fucking scout for the Lakers. A fucking scout damnit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

**MJ was on timeout for gambling and getting his daddy whacked in the pr:lolcess.

:downspin: that shit, ya dig? :toast

[Splits]

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[djohn2oo8]

http://imageshack.com/a/img546/4875/qwwh.png
What the actual fuck?

[Clipper Nation]

Players are more important to winning titles than coaches.

Is that so, Esteban? Then explain why Kirby never won anything without Phil (or Shaq/MVPau, for that matter).... Del Harris, Rudy T, Mike Brown, Antoni = nada :lol

[irishock]

Sick fucks still making fun of dead Jerry

[LkrFan]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/17R0L/laker-fans-this-season-be-like/image.png
16 > 2 son. ;)

[LkrFan]

Is that so, Esteban? Then explain why Kirby never won anything without Phil (or Shaq/MVPau, for that matter).... Del Harris, Rudy T, Mike Brown, Antoni = nada :lol
Your Clipps about to prove my theory wrong. You guys have the players. Defense. Rebounding. Best PG in the game. However comma you guys are 2nd round fodder at best. Embrace your destiny son. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

Your Clipps about to prove my theory wrong. You guys have the players. Defense. Rebounding. Best PG in the game. However comma you guys are 2nd round fodder at best. Embrace your destiny son. :toast

:lol Carlos deflecting per the usual

[Spur-Addict]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/17R0L/laker-fans-this-season-be-like/image.png

:rollin

[LkrFan]

:lol Carlos deflecting per the usual

:lol

[Michael Jordan.]

16 > 2 son. ;)
The Begging

[fevertrees]

http://sigroup.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/steve-nash-dwight-howard-si-cover.jpg

[Michael Jordan.]

http://sigroup.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/steve-nash-dwight-howard-si-cover.jpg
" 'Hey Jim, it's your dad,' " Buss says, mimicking his father's squeaky voice. " 'What an incredible waste of talent. Oh well. The experiment didn't work.' "

[baseline bum]

Look at Spo. He's a 2x NBA championship coach. In theory, Pop >>>>> Spo. But Pop went out like a biatch in 6, then was bent over by Spo in game 7. And Pop's probably a top 10 coach in NBA history. :lol

Chuy man, I get this take for 6, but blaming Pop for 7? I mean come on Paco, Battier showing up to play one game isn't on Pop.

[irishock]

Those are last season's jokes, tbh... just like 6, time to move on.

[Baseline]

The biggest mistake was hanging the franchise on Bryant, an inefficient and aging volume shooter who also happens to be a colossal narcissist. They were lucky enough to win two more titles when Pau came in, but they idiotically felt they could continue to "rebuild around Bryant." What a joke. They should have traded the fool and rebuilt around another piece.

Bryant has brought them zero value this year while making 30M+. He'll do the same over the next two years while making 48.5M. Meanwhile, let's face it, if Bryant had really wanted Howard to re-sign with the Lakers, Howard would have re-signed. But Bryant played that situation in a self-serving manner rather than a team-first manner. Well, surprise surprise.

And now look what the Lakers have to show for picking the wrong horse. They're an absolute laughing stock.

[Michael Jordan.]

http://sigroup.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/steve-nash-dwight-howard-si-cover.jpg
http://www.sinaimg.cn/dy/slidenews/2_img/2014_07/786_1181284_949905.jpg

[Thread]

The biggest mistake was hanging the franchise on Bryant, an inefficient and aging volume shooter who also happens to be a colossal narcissist. They were lucky enough to win two more titles when Pau came in, but they idiotically felt they could continue to "rebuild around Bryant." What a joke. They should have traded the fool and rebuilt around another piece.

Bryant has brought them zero value this year while making 30M+. He'll do the same over the next two years while making 48.5M. Meanwhile, let's face it, if Bryant had really wanted Howard to re-sign with the Lakers, Howard would have re-signed. But Bryant played that situation in a self-serving manner rather than a team-first manner. Well, surprise surprise.

And now look what the Lakers have to show for picking the wrong horse. They're an absolute laughing stock.

True, Bryant did not want Howard as comprised. He spelled it out to Howard what it would take to ring, & Howard blanched.

Bryant took a 20% cut, based on 25/5/5 that is quite selfless.

Without Bryant we're light 5 NBA World Titles formulated as a 3 peat and 3 back-to-backs.

& Pau can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.

Without Kobe we'd a never signed Artest and without Artest we're short an NBA Title.

[Splits]

Bryant took a 20% cut, based on 25/5/5 that is quite selfless.


You can't possibly be serious with this garbage. I mean, at one point in your old decrepit life you were intellectually curious, I can see it in your blather. But this is just nonsense, brought to you by none other than MEDIA who schlobb Cobie's dick like college basketball players.

[LkrFan]

Chuy man, I get this take for 6, but blaming Pop for 7? I mean come on Paco, Battier showing up to play one game isn't on Pop.
:lol

Spo > PopPERI:lolD. Neal with it son.

[baseline bum]

:lol

Spo > PopPERI:lolD. Neal with it son.

Marco man, Philibeaner took 5 full games before he realized Danny Green has no handle and could be made completely worthless by running him off his initial shot and making him put the ball on the floor. No decent coach would have let Danny Green's scrub ass have a historic series against him like that tbh. The Heat won in spite of Spoelstra.

[TDMVPDPOY]

& Pau can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.

Without Kobe we'd a never signed Artest and without Artest we're short an NBA Title.
and what have kobe won without a legitimate big man?

[Thread]

and what have kobe won without a legitimate big man?

That's your angle, like 6-24, MVPs, Finals MVPs...on & on.

Me?:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[irishock]

That's your angle, like 6-24, MVPs, Finals MVPs...on & on.

Me?:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

:wow.... game set match :lmao