Spurs interested in Evan Turner?

[sexinthatsx]

Don't know if there's a thread for this already, but Spurs are reportedly interested in Evan Turner. What do you guys think? Yes? No?
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231854/Spurs-Bobcats-Could-Be-Interested-In-Evan-Turner

[Hoops Czar]

So it begins.....

[Joyrider]

7 pages of pure speculation by tonight, IMHO.

[sexinthatsx]

I for one think Evan Turner can bee pretty serviceable. Not sure I've seen enough 76ers games to see whether he can defend well or not though.

[Hoops Czar]

Actually, that article doesn't say anything about the Spurs being interested.

[sexinthatsx]

Actually, that article doesn't say anything about the Spurs being interested.

"Spurs, Bobcats Could Be Interested In Evan Turner"

[ElNono]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225702&goto=newpost

[Hoops Czar]

"Spurs, Bobcats Could Be Interested In Evan Turner"

How does that translate to "Spurs interested in Evan Turner"?

[exstatic]

Some other GM said so. BFD. Why pay for the milk when you can get the cow free next summer?

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Ah well. Honestly sign me up for Evan Turner. But this is what it is, the same speculation bull shit. I will believe one of these rumors when one of them happens. Lets hope the Spurs indeed make some sort of move to upgrade the roster.

[jkid12456]

id love to get evan turner! awesome!

[Texas_Ranger]

Now that here's a thread about it you know he's not coming.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop would NEVER trade his drinking buddy "Matty" . Move on

[phxspurfan]

in before the 7 pages

[SupremeGuy]

Evan Turner would be fucking great.

[mrjap2x]

I don't think his stock is that low that Philadelphia will give him to the Spurs for some low 1st round picks, and expiring contracts won't do it either since Turner himself has an expiring contract.

[sexinthatsx]

i hope Philly take Nando De Colo lol

[spurraider21]

only players that the spurs should have on the table: Nando, Ayres, Bonner, Baynes, CoJo

[Sean Cagney]

Actually, that article doesn't say anything about the Spurs being interested.

It does say they are among other teams but honestly this will go 19 or so pages by the end of the week and some will come up with other trades in their heads and post them on top of that! Just watch! ESPN trade machine will be used and other irrelevant trade ideas will come in!
Evan Turner would be fucking great.

Damn RIGHT he would :lol

[exstatic]

It does say they are among other teams but honestly this will go 19 or so pages by the end of the week and some will come up with other trades in their heads and post them on top of that! Just watch! ESPN trade machine will be used and other irrelevant trade ideas will come in!

Damn RIGHT he would :lol

Actually, though it pains me to say so, Czar was right (for once). It was some other GM speculating that the Spurs might be interested.

I don't understand the Jones that people here have for him. He's pretty much a bust. If SA had drafted him with a #2 overall pick, people would be storming RC's house with burning torches, not dreaming of him. He's not very good. He only scores because he gets lots of touches on a crappy team.

[timtonymanu]

:lol People are overrating Evan Turner. Hes not awful but I hope we don't land him.

[TheyCallMePro]

Evan Turner is a bust. The Spurs aren't into reclamation projects. Not at this point anyway.

Besides, the Spurs aren't looking for another guard. They're looking for a tall, athletic wing who can shoot.

[DMC]

These premanufactured mid-range "stars" are bad mojo for the Spurs. There are very few role players out there who would benefit the Spurs organization this year, but there are some.

[Hoops Czar]

Actually, though it pains me to say so, Czar was right (for once). It was some other GM speculating that the Spurs might be interested.

I don't understand the Jones that people here have for him. He's pretty much a bust. If SA had drafted him with a #2 overall pick, people would be storming RC's house with burning torches, not dreaming of him. He's not very good. He only scores because he gets lots of touches on a crappy team.

The only believable word in this entire post is pain. If the Spurs didn't storm RC's house with burning torches after signing your buddy Ayres, I'm pretty sure RC has nothing to worry about. Just keep stockpiling the bench with garbage and fringe NBA talent and then wonder why the Spurs can't trade the Bonner's, De Colo's and Cojo's of the world for potential stars. Don't ya know, it's a top every GM's to do list to make the Spurs look good even if it's at the expense of crippling their own franchise.

[HarlemHeat37]

Turner doesn't fit with the Spurs, he's a ball-dominant player that can't shoot, tbh..

He would be a very good 6th man on a team that needs a ball-dominant player, but he doesn't fit on the Spurs roster..

[sexinthatsx]

Turner doesn't fit with the Spurs, he's a ball-dominant player that can't shoot, tbh..

He would be a very good 6th man on a team that needs a ball-dominant player, but he doesn't fit on the Spurs roster..

I know every poster in this forum follows the so-called "Spurs system" repeatedly and almost religiously, but a ball-dominant player is something that would actually complement the Spurs. Every role player on the spurs cannot create their own shot (maybe with the exception of Belinelli). The role players tend to do a good job with the floor spacing and the 3's, but a ball-dominant player can create floor spacing just as well (commanding mismatches and double-teams).

There's a reason people have been so disappointed with the Spurs not running plays for Kawhi; it's because Kawhi is not a playmaker, simply put. I think having another ball-dominant player on the Spurs can really lessen the offensive load of Parker and Ginobili, especially when posters get so mad when Ginobili turns the ball over.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Some other GM said so. BFD. Why pay for the milk when you can get the cow free next summer?

Because we desperately need depth a the 3 now. Maybe you like watching Green, Manu, Belli and the three guard lineups but then again you also like Ayers out there too.

A one year rental actually makes more sense because I don't see enough minutes for what Turner and Leonard really merit long term.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Turner doesn't fit with the Spurs, he's a ball-dominant player that can't shoot, tbh..

He would be a very good 6th man on a team that needs a ball-dominant player, but he doesn't fit on the Spurs roster..

Good point on his lack of an outside shot.

[Chinook]

I know every poster in this forum follows the so-called "Spurs system" repeatedly and almost religiously, but a ball-dominant player is something that would actually complement the Spurs. Every role player on the spurs cannot create their own shot (maybe with the exception of Belinelli). The role players tend to do a good job with the floor spacing and the 3's, but a ball-dominant player can create floor spacing just as well (commanding mismatches and double-teams).

There's a reason people have been so disappointed with the Spurs not running plays for Kawhi; it's because Kawhi is not a playmaker, simply put. I think having another ball-dominant player on the Spurs can really lessen the offensive load of Parker and Ginobili, especially when posters get so mad when Ginobili turns the ball over.

I think you're concatenating ball-handlers with ball-dominators. Turner needs the ball in his hands a lot to be even decent on offense. It's not like Beli and Manu who can split the workload. It would be like starting two Parkers. Turner is an inefficient scorer and an inefficient play-maker. He can drive to the hope, but he can't get his own shot otherwise and is garbage off the ball. I don't see the fit at all.

That's different than a ball-handler like Chandler or even Earl Clark who can get their own shots while also being able to make others better.

[BatManu20]

Not happening. Moving on.

[Spur|n|Austin]

These premanufactured mid-range "stars" are bad mojo for the Spurs. There are very few role players out there who would benefit the Spurs organization this year, but there are some.

With KL back, that good % inside could prove helpful.

[sexinthatsx]

I think you're concatenating ball-handlers with ball-dominators. Turner needs the ball in his hands a lot to be even decent on offense. It's not like Beli and Manu who can split the workload. It would be like starting two Parkers. Turner is an inefficient scorer and an inefficient play-maker. He can drive to the hope, but he can't get his own shot otherwise and is garbage off the ball. I don't see the fit at all.

That's different than a ball-handler like Chandler or even Earl Clark who can get their own shots while also being able to make others better.

Well, like I said before, I don't watch 76ers games enough to know how Turner really plays like, but I'd imagine Michael Carter-Williams is the ball-dominant one and Turner just gets stray buckets here and there without actually dominating the ball.

[Reck]

Actually, that article doesn't say anything about the Spurs being interested.

Article says both teams "could" be which in many cases means that they are.

You like arguing alot dont you? lol

[bluebellmaniac]

Probably would be too much to pay for a backup SF. We could have Bertans and LJC coming over next season, both SFs and for much cheaper. Sometimes it's better to be patient.

[mountainballer]

bad fit?
maybe.
worse fit than...,well, who?
if they can't get a player who is in fact a better fit, Turner is a no brainer.
Spurs need dephth at 3 and while he might not be the athleticand tall SF we dream about, he isn't exactly undersized for a 3 either.
he is a decent defender and a good ball handler and he can pass the ball. last time I checked this attributes didn't rule out a player from being a good fit with the Spurs.
after the season Spurs can decide if they let him walk, or make him a RFA. and he accepts the QO, his contract would expire 2015, what fits with the cap/rebuilding situation.

Spurs would only offer their 2014 pick (plus some trow ins) anyhow, so this would be worth the price. and I really doubt the Spurs can get a better player than him at the deadline, considering their possible offers.

[TJastal]

bad fit?
maybe.
worse fit than...,well, who?
if they can't get a player who is in fact a better fit, Turner is a no brainer.
Spurs need dephth at 3 and while he might not be the athleticand tall SF we dream about, he isn't exactly undersized for a 3 either.
he is a decent defender and a good ball handler and he can pass the ball. last time I checked this attributes didn't rule out a player from being a good fit with the Spurs.
after the season Spurs can decide if they let him walk, or make him a RFA. and he accepts the QO, his contract would expire 2015, what fits with the cap/rebuilding situation.

Spurs would only offer their 2014 pick (plus some trow ins) anyhow, so this would be worth the price. and I really doubt the Spurs can get a better player than him at the deadline, considering their possible offers.

Anything is better than Shannon Brown at this point. Bring him in I say.

[Gagnrath]

I saw turner play alot in college and a few times as an nba player, his real problem is that his middle of the road nba first step, was a very good college first step. Where that was regularly beating people in college it only sometimes works in the nba and often times people can recover. This makes a bunch of what was open in college or only lightly contested really challenged in the nba.

[Spurs da champs]

Turner as aa replacement for Manure?...I'm all in.

[baseline bum]

Evan Turner sucks. Even on a team almost void of talent he can't put up numbers. For the kind of contract he'll get I gotta pass unless Philly just wants to give him away, as I wouldn't want him for anything more than a rental.

[DPG21920]

Evan Turner sucks. Even on a team almost void of talent he can't put up numbers. For the kind of contract he'll get I gotta pass unless Philly just wants to give him away, as I wouldn't want him for anything more than a rental.

He's putting up pretty good numbers in Philly.

[DMC]

A ball dominant player isn't going to want to come to SA to play in that system because he won't get the shots he's getting elsewhere. Bret might convince him otherwise, but I doubt it.

[Mugen]

Good size but the kid can't shoot tbh.

[Budkin]

Spurs are interested tbh

[ducks]

would rather have love

[Mel_13]

Evolution of an ST trade rumor thread

1. Original article by the NBA writer for USA Today contains the following quote: "One rival executive mentioned the San Antonio Spurs and Charlotte Bobcats as possible destinations via trade, though both teams could also wait until the offseason to see if they could simply sign him then."

2. Realgm picks up the article with this headline:"Spurs, Bobcats Could Be Interested In Evan Turner"

3. OP starts thread titled: "Spurs interested in Evan Turner"

4. Many pages of discussion follow based on the thread title as if it was actually a fact.

[baseline bum]

He's putting up pretty good numbers in Philly.

He's putting up volume shooter numbers.

[Mal]

Trade aint happening. Only 2 pages in 21 hours.

[DPG21920]

He's putting up volume shooter numbers.

Sure. I just wanted to point out that he is putting up numbers in that system when you said he wasn't. That's the concern - he is putting up good box score numbers which is upping his value both in trades and FA.

[Bruno]

Evans 13.5 PER quite reflects his low efficiency.

[DPG21920]

Yup - plus he's on a bad team. It's hard to be a net positive in that situation. His value comes not in his ability to score, but handle the ball, pass and create.

I am not a fan of Turner. I wouldn't mind if the Spurs got him for nothing, but I don't see him helping.

[Chomag]

Do want if he loves trolling the Lakers. Even if his only job were just to troll the them it would be so worth it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RufXbJ0F5WI

[DesignatedT]

He's got some game and he's still growing and improving every year as a player. If it comes down to choosing between him or Thad Young though I think I would go with Young. He seems like something the Spurs need more right now. Tim - Splitter - Diaw and Young would make a very versatile front court that can matchup many ways.

[dbestpro]

Trying to match salaries probably would cost us Diaw or Green on either one. Don't see it happening. Bonner is not enough alone, and Philly does not have the room or incentive to take on multiple end of bench contracts, and would not want Green.

[Chinook]

Trying to match salaries probably would cost us Diaw or Green on either one. Don't see it happening. Bonner is not enough alone, and Philly does not have the room or incentive to take on multiple end of bench contracts, and would not want Green.

Bonner and Baynes/De Colo for Turner would be good enough financially. All three for Young and Thompson would also work.

[sexinthatsx]

Bonner and Baynes/De Colo for Turner would be good enough financially. All three for Young and Thompson would also work.

Getting Thaddeus young for the Spurs would be HUGE and can help so much

[TheGreatYacht]

Turner as aa replacement for Manure?...I'm all in.

Me too

[BatManu20]

Thaddeus Young is owed almost $19 million over the next 2 seasons. How could we afford him?

[DPG21920]

Thaddeus Young is owed almost $19 million over the next 2 seasons. How could we afford him?

Easily. Taking out of consideration what PHI would want for him, a trade of Bonner/DeColo/Ayres for example would work financially.

Now, is that something that PHI would want? I doubt it. Could they do better, even if there was a pick involved? Probably, but the finances are not the big concern IMO.

[sexinthatsx]

Easily. Taking out of consideration what PHI would want for him, a trade of Bonner/DeColo/Ayres for example would work financially.

Now, is that something that PHI would want? I doubt it. Could they do better, even if there was a pick involved? Probably, but the finances are not the big concern IMO.

It'll work if Philly wants to free cap space for some big free agents next season. However, I doubt it too

[exstatic]

It'll work if Philly wants to free cap space for some big free agents next season. However, I doubt it too

If they want to free up cap room next summer, they can just renounce and not extend a QO to Turner.

Hinkie is their GM, and he was an assistant in Houston, so I doubt they do even a break even type deal. Unless there is some third team that has a player that Philly wants, and the third team wants to clear some cap room with our ending deals, I just don't see Turner in SA

[DPG21920]

The key with Turner's fit is what the Spurs think of Ginobil. It's pretty clear with Manu out, despite the other needs, the Spurs value scoring/play making (hence Pop's comments on Brown and signing him).

If Manu is going to be injured/ineffective, Spurs will need another legit play maker/scorer and in that situation Turner would have the ball in his hands as much as Manu did (which is a lot). If Manu is healthy/effective, then Turner off the ball with less touches makes little sense (unless it's just for end of bench players).

[chrhawk]

The key with Turner's fit is what the Spurs think of Ginobil. It's pretty clear with Manu out, despite the other needs, the Spurs value scoring/play making (hence Pop's comments on Brown and signing him).

If Manu is going to be injured/ineffective, Spurs will need another legit play maker/scorer and in that situation Turner would have the ball in his hands as much as Manu did (which is a lot). If Manu is healthy/effective, then Turner off the ball with less touches makes little sense (unless it's just for end of bench players).

I think everyone should move forward with the expectation that Ginobili won't be a huge contributor in the future due to health concerns. Injuries and age have caught up with him. I wouldn't object if the Spurs decided to add another guy who can create his own shot in a half-court offense.

[lipton22]

I know every poster in this forum follows the so-called "Spurs system" repeatedly and almost religiously, but a ball-dominant player is something that would actually complement the Spurs. Every role player on the spurs cannot create their own shot (maybe with the exception of Belinelli). The role players tend to do a good job with the floor spacing and the 3's, but a ball-dominant player can create floor spacing just as well (commanding mismatches and double-teams).

There's a reason people have been so disappointed with the Spurs not running plays for Kawhi; it's because Kawhi is not a playmaker, simply put. I think having another ball-dominant player on the Spurs can really lessen the offensive load of Parker and Ginobili, especially when posters get so mad when Ginobili turns the ball over.

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[coachmac87]

First of all I feel Spurs biggest need is getting a big..but haven't read any rumors on such. Just SF and PGs..but out of all the rumors Evan Turner makes the most sense and here's why..

Mills
Bonner
1st rd pick

For Evan Turner.

Why it makes sense for Philly?

Turner is expendable due to the fact of them drafting MCW. Who pretty much a clone of Turner and they really don't mesh..due to the fact they both need the ball in their hands and neither is a good shooter. And let's not forget Turner is a FA after this season. Mills obviously has played and thrived with Brett Brown and can play off the ball with MCW due to his shooting while guarding opposing PGs. And he'd be a lot cheaper to resign if that's the route they want to go..Bonner on the other hand is an expiring deal which will give them cap relief to search for better fits. And don't forget the 1st rd pick. Something they'll get instead of losing Turner for nothing in FA.

Why it makes sense for the Spurs?

2 birds with 1 stone. Spurs get a point-forward who can defend 3 positions and also come off the bench to relief Tony and take the pressure off Manu. Turner is a natural point but is 6'7 and can give us another option to run PNR other then Tony/Manu he also could be a perfect 6th man once Manu hangs it up and wouldn't be a bad resigning come this offseason. Not only can he be productive right now in case injuries are still an issue come playoff time. He's a player for the future that can fit the spurs needs once it's time for the Big 3 to go their ways...

My 2 cents

[sexinthatsx]

First of all I feel Spurs biggest need is getting a big..but haven't read any rumors on such. Just SF and PGs..but out of all the rumors Evan Turner makes the most sense and here's why..

Mills
Bonner
1st rd pick

For Evan Turner.

Why it makes sense for Philly?

Turner is expendable due to the fact of them drafting MCW. Who pretty much a clone of Turner and they really don't mesh..due to the fact they both need the ball in their hands and neither is a good shooter. And let's not forget Turner is a FA after this season. Mills obviously has played and thrived with Brett Brown and can play off the ball with MCW due to his shooting while guarding opposing PGs. And he'd be a lot cheaper to resign if that's the route they want to go..Bonner on the other hand is an expiring deal which will give them cap relief to search for better fits. And don't forget the 1st rd pick. Something they'll get instead of losing Turner for nothing in FA.

Why it makes sense for the Spurs?

2 birds with 1 stone. Spurs get a point-forward who can defend 3 positions and also come off the bench to relief Tony and take the pressure off Manu. Turner is a natural point but is 6'7 and can give us another option to run PNR other then Tony/Manu he also could be a perfect 6th man once Manu hangs it up and wouldn't be a bad resigning come this offseason. Not only can he be productive right now in case injuries are still an issue come playoff time. He's a player for the future that can fit the spurs needs once it's time for the Big 3 to go their ways...

My 2 cents

I'd love for the trade myself, but you answered your own question... Philly doesn't lose out in releasing Turner into free agency; why would they want to take on the contracts of Mills and Bonner?

[coachmac87]

They get a 1st rd pick...

[coachmac87]

Mills and Bonner both are expiring contracts

[TheGoldStandard]

Mills and Bonner both are expiring contracts
Bonner getting re-upped this off-season

[FireMicoHalili]

"Spurs, Bobcats Could Be Interested In Evan Turner"
"Could be", just like God "could be" nonexistent

[Bruno]

Go to 44:20 :
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[ABC]

Do you think he actually has his own source or is he just repeating the rumor we already heard?

[Bruno]

Do you think he actually has his own source or is he just repeating the rumor we already heard?

who knows

[exstatic]

Do you think he actually has his own source or is he just repeating the rumor we already heard?

Rumors do tend to be circular.

[objective]

I don't think I'd want the Spurs to even give up a first for Turner.

Mediocre player who needs the ball to be of any use, and even with the ball he's a below average performer. Kawhi never gets the ball without getting the rebound or the steal himself, how on earth would Turner get the ball coming off the bench? And Kawhi still puts up 6 fewer shots per 36 than Turner. Turner doesn't spread the floor worth a darn, shoots like garbage, is a modest rebounder, unremarkable defender (who puts up awful o and d ratings while his teammate Thad does much better), and would be a ball stopper who turns the ball over those occasions he doesn't chuck it. Add in him padding up to try to get paid this summer, I don't see the allure. And from everything I've ever read or heard (from sixers podcasts), he's never been made out to be a braniac. Could he even pick up the system enough to not be a disaster in less than half a season?

All for the privilege of giving him a QO of nearly 9 million for a mediocre back-up (on this team).

Thaddeus Young might be less realistic to acquire, but I would give up a first this year for him. Hasn't played small forward this year, but I bet he'd be fine against smallball 4s. Shoots better from 2 than Turner. Hell, shoots better from three than Turner. Mediocre rebounder, but no worse than Diaw. He's played a few more years than Turner, I trust him to be able to adjust and contribute more than Turner could. They'd be paying him less than a million more than Turner's QO, and wouldn't be in danger of some team coming in and making a stupid offer the Spurs wouldn't match like Turner. He'd be Diaw insurance/leverage. And he could start if that's where the Spurs wanted to go. And has an ETO in the summer of 2015. If he opts out, Spurs can start over. If the Spurs want to clear room, his expiring should be movable, he'll still only be 27.

Not that I think Young is realistic. But I'd rather strike out on getting Young than bunt into a Turner rental.

[xmas1997]

They get a 1st rd pick...

Oh no, Spurs better keep that 1st rounder this year!

[TheGoldStandard]

Oh no, Spurs better keep that 1st rounder this year!

Some Euro player, draft and stash for 6 years... or perhaps a small combo guard..

[exstatic]

Oh no, Spurs better keep that 1st rounder this year!

The draft isn't THAT deep this year. If players start feeling like they may drop out of the lottery, they'll pull out and go back to school. Really only the teams with the first ten picks should be excited. The rest will be just another draft.