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jkid12456
02-09-2014, 11:25 PM
this season

Who are they? would patty be close to the list?

Galileo
02-09-2014, 11:36 PM
1. Nando the Commando
2. Super Patty
3. Cojo

Floyd Pacquiao
02-09-2014, 11:41 PM
1. Reggie Jackson?
2. Jeremy Lin?
Cant recall anymore, tbh..

313
02-10-2014, 12:06 AM
There's been a lot of PG injuries this season so a lot of back ups have been third stringers. I'd say Patty top 5 Maybe. Top 10 def.

ajh18
02-10-2014, 12:37 AM
Putting in context how good Patty has been this season: He's currently 12th in PER among PGs, the only one in the top-20 averaging less than 20 MPG. Other PGs that could be considered "top" backups:

Tyreke Evans
Darren Collison
Reggie Jackson
Nate Robinson

All of these have a lower PER (admittedly not the greatest stat in the world) than Patty. And while he is obviously not the 12th best PG in the league, I also think that there are half a dozen teams with starting PGs not playing as well as Mills is for us right now.

ron235
02-10-2014, 01:01 AM
Putting in context how good Patty has been this season: He's currently 12th in PER among PGs, the only one in the top-20 averaging less than 20 MPG. Other PGs that could be considered "top" backups:

Tyreke Evans
Darren Collison
Reggie Jackson
Nate Robinson

All of these have a lower PER (admittedly not the greatest stat in the world) than Patty. And while he is obviously not the 12th best PG in the league, I also think that there are half a dozen teams with starting PGs not playing as well as Mills is for us right now.

This. Good take.

Roger Freemason Jr.
02-10-2014, 01:12 AM
Shaun Livingston has been playing pretty decent hasn't he? Reggie Jackson, Patty, Nate, Marshall?

FuzzyLumpkins
02-10-2014, 01:19 AM
You stole my idea! Well you changed it to 5 but good thread! Mills is one of the best backup PG in the league.

Jwash_1986
02-10-2014, 02:09 AM
Darren Collison, Shaun Livingston, Reggie Jackson not in no order but these names came to mind.

HarlemHeat37
02-10-2014, 02:30 AM
Statistically and based on on/off advanced metrics(RAPM and it's derivatives), Mills has easily been the best backup PG in the league, and one of the top 3 overall bench players in the league, tbh..

Unfortunately, part of that is due to injuries and Parker's struggles(Parker's on/off advanced metrics are atrocious), but regardless, Mills has been fantastic, let's hope he can maintain this pace..

KL2
02-10-2014, 03:47 AM
Just wish he was better on defense, Jackson always has a field day against the Spurs because how horrible both Tony and Mills' defense is. If Parker could get back to the level of defense he played last year we'd be set at the pg position.

Bruno
02-10-2014, 05:18 AM
Millstalk.com :rolleyes

FuzzyLumpkins
02-10-2014, 05:26 AM
Millstalk.com :rolleyes

We know you'd prefer Parkertalk.com, frenchie.

benfti
02-10-2014, 06:49 AM
Millstalk.com :rolleyes
we should start a Patty Mills thread to discuss it.

ginobilized
02-10-2014, 09:48 AM
I think it is very sad that no one is talking about the downside of Patty's accelerated growth and playing time. Sure he adds offense and energy, but, at what cost?
I will even add the fact that he seems like a stellar guy and class act. BUT.......

The Spurs have dropped from 1st in the NBA to dead last in one category at midseason.





Towel-waving. Our towel-waving sucks, now.

Drom John
02-10-2014, 10:28 AM
For single seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; in 2013-14; played G; requiring Win Shares >= 0 and Minutes Per Game <= 24; sorted by descending Win Shares.
Then with shooting guards removed.

3.7 WS Darren Collison
3.4 Patrick Mills
2.7 C. J. Watson
2.0 Nate Robinson
1.8 Derek Fisher
1.8 Shelvin Mack
1.8 Pablo Prigioni
1.7 Ramon Sessions
1.5 Brian Roberts
1.4 Cory Joseph
1.3 Jerryd Bayless

Drom John
02-10-2014, 11:00 AM
Ignoring point guards, for all players less than 24 minutes per game, note that same WS to a tenth of a point is in alphabetical order:

1 Darren Collison
2 Manu Ginobili
3 Patrick Mills
4 Chris Anderson
5 Samuel Dalembert

17 C. J. Miles
18 Tiago Splitter
19 Trevor Booker

27 Ed Davis
28 Danny Green
29 Mike Miller

49 Mirza Teletovic
50 Jeff Ayres
51 Brian Roberts
52 Jae Croweder
53 Cory Joseph
54 Amar'e Stoudemire

61 Anthony Morrow
62 Matt Bonner
63 Francisco Garcia

105 Rasual Butler
106 Nando De Colo
107 Chris Douglas-Roberts

137 Darrell Arthur
138 Aron Baynes
139 Caron Butler

190 Antawn Jamison
191 Othyus Jeffers
192 Viacheslav Kravtsov

phxspurfan
02-10-2014, 12:12 PM
Damn I created a monster

wtgspurs
02-10-2014, 12:44 PM
You guys get turned on so easily lol...we all know that OP wanted us to all say Mills and whatever other else 4 pgs :P

TJastal
02-10-2014, 05:00 PM
I think it is very sad that no one is talking about the downside of Patty's accelerated growth and playing time. Sure he adds offense and energy, but, at what cost?
I will even add the fact that he seems like a stellar guy and class act. BUT.......

The Spurs have dropped from 1st in the NBA to dead last in one category at midseason.





Towel-waving. Our towel-waving sucks, now.

:lol

At least there's still Bonner with his goggles.

Boomersgold
02-10-2014, 09:59 PM
Putting in context how good Patty has been this season: He's currently 12th in PER among PGs, the only one in the top-20 averaging less than 20 MPG. Other PGs that could be considered "top" backups:

Tyreke Evans
Darren Collison
Reggie Jackson
Nate Robinson

All of these have a lower PER (admittedly not the greatest stat in the world) than Patty. And while he is obviously not the 12th best PG in the league, I also think that there are half a dozen teams with starting PGs not playing as well as Mills is for us right now.

And how many of those are 'pass-first, playmaking' point guards? :lol