Ray Rice arrested after incident in Atlantic City

[MeloHype]

Ravens running back Ray Rice was arrested over the weekend after an alleged physical altercation involving his fiancee at a casino in Atlantic City, according to his attorneys.


Rice’s attorney Andrew Alperstein confirmed Rice was charged and released after what he described as allegations of a “very minor physical altercation” with a woman he identified as Rice's fiancee at Revel Casino on the Atlantic City Boardwalk.


Rice, 27, was released on his own recognizance, Alperstein said.


According to Ravens director of public relations Chad Steele: "We are aware of the Friday night situation with Ray Rice and his fiancee. We have spoken with Ray, and know that they returned home together after being detained."


The Revel casino security department declined to comment when reached earlier Sunday. Atlantic City police have not returned calls about the incident.


Michael Diamondstein, a Philadelphia-based attorney, has been hired to represent Rice.


“We haven’t seen any charging documents yet,” Diamondstein said. “There was an argument that included Ray. I can’t give any specifics because we haven’t seen the document yet.”


“Once we’re able to go through the evidence, it should wind up to be little more than a misunderstanding,” Diamondstein said.


Since getting drafted out of Rutgers in the second round of the 2008 draft, Rice has been one of the Ravens’ most popular and productive players. A three-time Pro Bowl selection, Rice has rushed for 6,180 yards and 37 touchdowns over six NFL seasons.


However, he’s coming off his most disappointing season as a pro as he was limited to 660 rushing yards and four touchdowns this past season as the Ravens missed the playoffs for the first time since he’s been on the team.


Rice, who signed a five-year, $35 million deal with the Ravens in July 2012, has also been one of the organization’s most active players in the community. He’s been especially active in anti-bullying campaigns.http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ravens-running-back-ray-rice-arrested-after-incident-in-atlantic-city-20140216,0,132362.story

[Chinook]

Just posted this in the Ravens thread. Deadspin is saying he uppercutted her and knocked her out cold after she spat on him.

[DPG21920]

Sad. I always thought Ray was one of the good guys. Disappointing if true.

[Chinook]

Sad. I always thought Ray was one of the good guys. Disappointing if true.

If it makes you feel better, the police report indicated that Rice and his girl hit each other, that neither was hurt and that both were arrested and given a summons before being released. Rice's lawyer says the two went home together. So this could easily be a case where onlookers freaked out over something that was no big deal on Rice's and his fiancee's relationship.

[DPG21920]

Not really - best case, there was still an altercation between Rice and his girl which is not ok. Worst case he uppercut her and knocked her out. I thought Ray was above all of this (one of the few in pro sports).

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm just a per diem racist on here, but can we safely assume his gf is black? This is why athletes date/marry white women. Not because the wife informs/goes public on her husband (which is bad enough), but that she drives him to that kind of behavior in the first place

[GoodOdor]

Tbh I just don't get it - when you are a famous multi-millionaire athlete, how hard is it to get a 9-10 who is okay with you doing w/e the fuck you want

while she stays home to raise the kids and suck your dick when you get tired of your side pussy? again, really shouldn't be hard if you're a multi millionaire athlete.

[Robz4000]

Sucks. Like DPG said I thought he was one of the few black athletes with a good character.

[Spurs da champs]

:lol what 'character' are ya'll talking about? Rice was the dude who spat on some tackle's face from the Browns. That screams bitch made.

[SupremeGuy]

That's some thuggish behavior, tbh.

[Chinook]

That's some thuggish behavior, tbh.

The way he drug her out was creepy as hell.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/19/ray-rice-unconscious-fiancee-atlantic-city-video-arrest/

just in case yall haven't seen the vid of him trying to pick her unconscious body up, here it is...

[Thread]

Media is already massaging this story in order to preserve Rice. He won't be "Incognito'ed" that is for certain. ESPN immediately dragged out Cossack to muddy the waters. Rice is being rehabbed tootsweet.

[djohn2oo8]

Media is already massaging this story in order to preserve Rice. He won't be "Incognito'ed" that is for certain. ESPN immediately dragged out Cossack to muddy the waters. Rice is being rehabbed tootsweet.

Ray Rice will be out of the league for some time if the report is true

[HarlemHeat37]

The way he drug her out was creepy as hell.

Yep, that was one of the strangest videos involving a pro athlete that I have ever seen, tbh:lol..

[Thebesteva]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z2PXRff5o4

[The Gemini Method]

https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1610011_10153801759415109_1068142023_n.jpg

[Chinook]

^:rollin

[DeadlyDynasty]

Does this mean the wedding's off?

[The Gemini Method]

Does this mean the wedding's off?

Probably means he wont be my keeper in my keeper league.

[DPG21920]

Disgusting from Ray. Just no excuses and I am not joking when I say I thought he was better than this.

[DPG21920]

And :lmao his lawyer comments acting like it was no big deal. There is no end to the lengths terrible people will go to in order to protect themselves.

:lmao Misunderstanding

:lmao She musta misunderstood that Ray will have no problem hitting a woman.

[Mugen]

:lol his longest carry of the year tbh

[Fpoonsie]

:lmao She musta misunderstood that Ray will have no problem hitting a woman.

:rollin

[Chinook]

And :lmao his lawyer comments acting like it was no big deal. There is no end to the lengths terrible people will go to in order to protect themselves.

:lmao Misunderstanding

:lmao She musta misunderstood that Ray will have no problem hitting a woman.

I could care less about whether Rice is suspended since the team needed to move on anyway. But I hate the mentality that hitting a woman is inexcusable. And no, I don't support hitting women. I don't support hitting anyone. But if it is excusable to hit a man who's hit you first, then it should be the same for a woman. That's having equal rights. The fact that he potentially knocked her out shows why she was foolish for hitting him in the first place.

[DPG21920]

You shouldn't be uppercutting then dragging anyone's body around :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol his longest carry of the year tbh
:lmao ur on fire today imo

[Chinook]

You shouldn't be uppercutting then dragging anyone's body around :lol

I agree. That should be the way the issue is phrased though. Not that he hit a woman. It should be just as big of a deal if it were Michael Sam and his boyfriend.

[Mugen]

:lmao ur on fire today imo

:toast mah nig.

[DPG21920]

Well I disagree, but I get your point. It's like hitting a child in most cases. In fact, most 16 your old boys could probably physically beat a grown woman. Doesn't make it ok (from a physical perspective) for Ray Rice to uppercut a 16 year old boy.

[Chinook]

If that boy hits him it does. But anyway, grown women aren't children. They shouldn't be lumped together. That's chauvinistic thinking. She's a adult who's old enough to be held responsible for her actions.

[Wiz]

She's probably a bitch anyway

[DPG21920]

If that boy hits him it does. But anyway, grown women aren't children. They shouldn't be lumped together. That's chauvinistic thinking. She's a adult who's old enough to be held responsible for her actions.

Not really. I think people, especially younger ones, know right from wrong. Young is just an excuse. Also, just because someone is mentally on part/emotionally mature, doesn't mean they are physically. When you have the power to hurt someone, it doesn't give you the right. That person shoulders more of the responsibility.

It's not chauvinistic at all IMO. I was 16. While I wasn't as learned as I am now, I still knew what I was doing.

[Chinook]

Not really. I think people, especially younger ones, know right from wrong. Young is just an excuse. Also, just because someone is mentally on part/emotionally mature, doesn't mean they are physically. When you have the power to hurt someone, it doesn't give you the right. That person shoulders more of the responsibility.

It's not chauvinistic at all IMO. I was 16. While I wasn't as learned as I am now, I still knew what I was doing.

That's anecdotal. There has to be an age line somewhere 14, 16, 21, whatever.. But there shouldn't be a gender line. A man can defend himself. It's chauvinistic to believe a woman doesn't bear most responsibility for initiating violence. Men don't have to watch out for women. People have to watch out for each other. She chose to make their exchange physical. That's her fault. Is Rice wrong too? To some extent, yeah. Does he bear most of the blame? Hell no.

[Avante]

A man does not hit a woman, you throw them away from you. While women are strong in the legs they totally pale in comparsion in the upper body. Please save that powerlifter, talking 99% of women. Any man who slugs a woman is a chickenshit, there is never an excuse that justifies hitting a woman. If she has a weapon you run.

And, we don't know these guys at all, what we see on Sundays means.....0. I played high school football with a guy named Von Gentry, cat never said a word, very cool. He'd kill a man and mutilate him some years later.

[HarlemHeat37]

A man does not hit a woman, you throw them away from you. While women are strong in the legs they totally pale in comparsion in the upper body. Please save that powerlifter, talking 99% of women. Any man who slugs a woman is a chickenshit, there is never an excuse that justifies hitting a woman. If she has a weapon you run.

And, we don't know these guys at all, what we see on Sundays means.....0. I played high school football with a guy named Von Gentry, cat never said a word, very cool. He'd kill a man and mutilate him some years later.

Meanwhile, Von Gentry is somewhere right now telling people about playing football with a guy named Avante that never said a word and seemed cool, but raped pre-teen Asian girls some years later..

[Avante]

Meanwhile, Von Gentry is somewhere right now telling people about playing football with a guy named Avante that never said a word and seemed cool, but raped pre-teen Asian girls some years later..

Let's break that down....

My real name is Larry, so...wrong!

Do you honestly believe in a bar full of grown up women with developed bodies anyone would be interested in 12 year old little girls? Are you saying those bars hired 12 years old....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, do you know about anything at all? You come off as a grade A moron.

[Chinook]

TMZ just released the whole Rice video. Damn. :wow

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video/

Rice would have missed the season had this come out earlier.

[DD]

then she said "I do":lol

[spurraider21]

:wow

[Robz4000]

:lmao

[Thebesteva]

And they gave this brotha 4 games for E?

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--J1aCzfxE--/884255199714014640.jpg

[DD]

She hit him first

[The Gemini Method]

Should've dropped that molly--this wouldn't have happened. But, I wouldn't be surprised if Rice gets additional penalties.

[Bill_Brasky]

2 Games :lmao

[tlongII]

What a piece of trash! Rice should be suspended for the year!

[Kyle Orton]

Why the fuck is everyone so butthurt about the new video? It just confirms what everyone fucking knew. We already knew he knocked his bitch out cold in the elevator so why is there another outrage about this video?

yes 2 games ain't enough but that was said prior to this video as well

[The Gemini Method]

What a piece of trash! Rice should be suspended for the year!

Anyway you look at it--Goodell is going to take a major hit and so is the NFL. Though they claim to not have seen the video (I doubt that...), they could've been more heavy handed to prevent the inevitable backlash that is coming.

[The Gemini Method]

Why the fuck is everyone so butthurt about the new video? It just confirms what everyone fucking knew. We already knew he knocked his bitch out cold in the elevator so why is there another outrage about this video?

yes 2 games ain't enough but that was said prior to this video as well

Validation. I mean, sure we knew he knocked her out but in this age of ocular verification, it makes it more resonant. Probably still tied in with the fact he got less time than Wes "Glowsitck" Welker got for droppin' some molly.

[Bill_Brasky]

1 game per punch :lmao

[Bill_Brasky]

If he wasnt such a pussy about it and finished her off in 1 punch he only woulda missed a game :lmao

[resistanze]

:lmao NFL

[FkLA]

He let those hooks go so nonchalantly. Doesnt look like a first time woman beater to me tbh.

[resistanze]

469918292061061120

:lol dat PR

[Chinook]

469918292061061120

:lol dat PR

I thought that was a new tweet for a minute. I was going to laugh so hard.

[chunticakes]

I'd hit it.

[Darth_Pelican]

Ray Rice has been released. He is no longer a Raven

[Chinook]

Yep. The Ravens are an upstanding team that only has high-character guys on it. No way could Rice be allowed to sully its good reputation any longer.

[FkLA]

Good shit. Woman beater deserves this tbh.

[spurraider21]

The raiders should sign him. We need to get back to being the nfl's criminal element. BRing in incognito and pay suh. :lol

[Chinook]

The raiders should sign him. We need to get back to being the nfl's criminal element. BRing in incognito and pay suh. :lol

Hell no. I don't want that crap in SA next year.

[The Gemini Method]

Guess you have to be involved in murder to stay on the Ravens, tbh.

[Avante]

If he were younger and coming off a big season, some team would..."we believe in giving a guy a second..blahblah.." being he;s on the downside of his career.....CFL???

His wife needs to step up and talk about how she constantly verbally abuses him and has hit him many times, obvious her being a woman and him being a powerful guy....big deal...but he had finally had enought. Sure, it might be bullshit but she is his wife.

[The Gemini Method]

If he were younger and coming off a big season, some team would..."we believe in giving a guy a second..blahblah.." being he;s on the downside of his career.....CFL???

If he can find redemption--I think he's back in next year--and a good OL he can be productive still. He's only what? 28? I mean he won't be great but if he gets through this, he may provide a team with a boost.

[Chinook]

Guess you have to be involved in murder to stay on the Ravens, tbh.

It's better to leave no witnesses...

Wish the Ravens ha cut him earlier. No need to guarantee his base salary.

[FkLA]

Honestly I'd accept a thug who played a role in murdering another thug before I accept a woman beater into my locker room.

[Clipper Nation]

Can Goodell finally be fired now? You would have to try to fuck up as badly as he did :lol

[Avante]

If he can find redemption--I think he's back in next year--and a good OL he can be productive still. He's only what? 28? I mean he won't be great but if he gets through this, he may provide a team with a boost.

Don;t know if a team would want that distraction.

Just heard he's been suspended with no end in sight.

[The Gemini Method]

Don;t know if a team would want that distraction.

Hey, if Jason Kidd went on to have a hall-of-fame career after hitting and choking his wife--why wouldn't Beats by Ray get another one? Side note: I read an article written by a classmate of Ray and it was stating that she wouldn't be surprised if Rice were to be in legal trouble. This article was written the year he was drafted. She needs to go to Vegas or play the lottery.

[tlongII]

This actually hurts that chick. You know the only reason she married him was for the $. Now she won't be getting as much dough.

[Chinook]

Hey, if Jason Kidd went on to have a hall-of-fame career after hitting and choking his wife--why wouldn't Beats by Ray get another one? Side note: I read an article written by a classmate of Ray and it was stating that she wouldn't be surprised if Rice were to be in legal trouble. This article was written the year he was drafted. She needs to go to Vegas or play the lottery.

Still can't get over Beats by Ray :lol

[The Gemini Method]

This actually hurts that chick. You know the only reason she married him was for the $. Now she won't be getting as much dough.

The savings they have--if he was smart to save and I don't know if he did will go to her if she is smart to marry him then divorce him down the line.

[The Gemini Method]

The Cowboys should sign Ray since they don't beat anyone...

[SupremeGuy]

Just a proud black man putting his bitch in place, tbh. When are the White devils going to stop victimizing the black kings and queens of this country?

/trill

[MeloHype]

Need a new rb for my fantasy team

[lebomb]

Have no fear, the Cowboys will scoop him up

[Obstructed_View]

Honestly I'd accept a thug who played a role in murdering another thug before I accept a woman beater into my locker room.

Were you intentionally describing Baltimore, or were you just making an analogy?

[313]

gd it i need him for my fantasy league

[chunticakes]

DD (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12607) will you trade him now? :lol

[spurraider21]

DD (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12607) will you trade him now? :lol
Puts the deadly in deadly dynasty

[Infinite_limit]

ITT: Grown men cry over fictional "fantasy" players

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol No one is picking him up. Goodell is trying to save face so he is now suspended indefinitely by the NFL.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11489134/baltimore-ravens-cut-ray-rice-new-video-surfaces

[jeebus]

TMZ just released the whole Rice video. Damn. :wow

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video/

Rice would have missed the season had this come out earlier.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Killakobe81]

The Cowboys should sign Ray since they don't beat anyone...

ba-da-bump-da!

Ha!

[Avante]

CFL?

[DPG21920]

The only thing that bothers me about this socitey is that now everyone who does something bad is a bad guy. Make one racist joke, you're a racist. Make one bad decision, you're a bad person.

It's silly and if everyone were judged like that, no one in society should be out of prison.

[Thread]

The only thing that bothers me about this socitey is that now everyone who does something bad is a bad guy. Make one racist joke, you're a racist. Make one bad decision, you're a bad person.

It's silly and if everyone were judged like that, no one in society should be out of prison.

Deeps

[Chinook]

The only thing that bothers me about this socitey is that now everyone who does something bad is a bad guy. Make one racist joke, you're a racist. Make one bad decision, you're a bad person.

It's silly and if everyone were judged like that, no one in society should be out of prison.

That's true. But a lot of other things bother me about this society.

[SupremeGuy]

The only thing that bothers me about this socitey is that now everyone who does something bad is a bad guy. Make one racist joke, you're a racist. Make one bad decision, you're a bad person.

It's silly and if everyone were judged like that, no one in society should be out of prison.That's what happens when the media becomes controlled by minority and special interest groups. It does get pretty funny when there's conflict between two different groups though. Like right now, black players have to pretend they're outraged at Ray Rice for knocking his bitch out, but deep down they don't care and find that behavior acceptable in the black community. They're only acting different on camera to appease the feminists. It's quite amazing just what's happening in America right now.

[2pac > Kobe]

im confused, I thought we already knew he knocked the dumb bish out, she shouldnt have came at him like that imo

[Chinook]

That's what happens when the media becomes controlled by minority and special interest groups. It does get pretty funny when there's conflict between two different groups though. Like right now, black players have to pretend they're outraged at Ray Rice for knocking his bitch out, but deep down they don't care and find that behavior acceptable in the black community. They're only acting different on camera to appease the feminists. It's quite amazing just what's happening in America right now.

The reason why you have people who have to pretend to be outraged at so many things is that progressives, like all parties, are coalitions of people with different interests trying to form a cohesive platform. There are racist women and sexist black men, but they have to put that aside to get votes. The same is true of libertarians like Romney who have to act like they care about all the Tea Party issues to win primaries. It's probably most clear when looking at how Al Sharpton has changed his political stances over the past few years.

[djohn2oo8]

im confused, I thought we already knew he knocked the dumb bish out, she shouldnt have came at him like that imo

Was she beating on him?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

This just in! Ray Rice signs a 1 year deal to join the Carolina Panthers practice squad

We stacked :wow

[Budkin]

Props to the birds.

[djohn2oo8]

If your name is Ray then try avoiding going to the Ravens. Shitty luck.

[Chinook]

The Ravens put out this article a couple of months ago:

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Byrne-Identity-I-Like-Ray-Rice/f618f957-e03f-4fc6-919e-638552b14c2b

An excerpt:


Bisciotti Weighs In

When we found out about Ray's punishment during yesterday morning's practice, I told Steve that I wanted to write about Ray Rice and how much respect I have for him. I wasn't sure it was my place or the team's to talk more about Ray right now. I thought the subject was so sensitive to the franchise that I should check with the owner, a man with great insights.


"That's your call," Bisciotti told me. "I don't think Ray needs it, and I don't think you'll change the minds of those who don't want to have anything to do with Ray. ... How sad we all are that he tarnished his image. No one outside, I've learned, can understand how we look at these guys as our sons and close friends as opposed to just employees.


"I saw that clearly when we lost the AFC championship at New England (at the end of the 2011 season)," the owner continued. "I had friends tell me, 'You must hate Lee Evans or Billy Cundiff. They cost you a trip to the Super Bowl.' It was the opposite – we felt for Lee and Billy. I wished that they'd get another chance. I felt the need to protect them like I would one of my sons. It's not like that in my other businesses.


"Don't we all have days or moments or periods in our life we regret? Ray showed great character for the six years I've known him. He has shown remorse after a bad incident. It was out of character. I don't think now is the time to abandon him. You say we are a Ravens' family. I've come to believe that."

Such a faux pas. A lot of Ravens fans want the PR director fired.

[SupremeGuy]

The reason why you have people who have to pretend to be outraged at so many things is that progressives, like all parties, are coalitions of people with different interests trying to form a cohesive platform. There are racist women and sexist black men, but they have to put that aside to get votes.And you're ok with that? The phony outrage and all? Doesn't it look even worse since all these special interest groups are basically joining together just to go against white Christian men?

For example, do you think black community leaders would have allowed the phony outrage of the michael brown incident had the cop been a female?

It's so disingenuous and paints a really bad picture of what's happening in America right now. Oh well, everyone might as well get used to having to pretend to being outraged for everything from now on, cause that's where we're at.

[Chinook]

And you're ok with that? The phony outrage and all? Doesn't it look even worse since all these special interest groups are basically joining together just to go against white Christian men?

For example, do you think black community leaders would have allowed the phony outrage of the michael brown incident had the cop been a female?

It's so disingenuous and paints a really bad picture of what's happening in America right now. Oh well, everyone might as well get used to having to pretend to being outraged for everything from now on, cause that's where we're at.

I think you misunderstand the level of acceptability of DV in the black community. It's not taken lightly at all. It's just that there are fewer men who have a stake in protecting women (like black fathers will kill a man for beating their daughter as readily as any other father, but there just aren't all that many of them). It's not a black platform that abuse is okay at all. They have no problem standing with women in this case.

But, no, I don't have a huge problem with coalitionalism. There's not a democratic governmental system that doesn't have it in some form (and it's a really big deal for parliamentary systems). That fact that you seem to be framing the issue as special interests versus a homogeneous group suggests you don't really grasp the political landscape, no offense. "White Christian men" is its own coalition of people who don't agree with each other on a lot of issues either but band together to try to push their own interests through. The formation of the Confederacy was very much a coalition between planters and yeomanry, the latter of whom was pretty much tricked into supporting the former through propaganda. That union is the reason why the Republican Party is splitting in two now.

[djohn2oo8]

Lol Ray Lewis on ESPN lecturing rice.

[Chinook]

Lol Ray Lewis on ESPN lecturing rice.


https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1610011_10153801759415109_1068142023_n.jpg

[ColinB]

I don't understand how this video changed anything. In the first video she looked like a dead deer. How else did they think that happened?

[The Gemini Method]

Get rid of the evidence!

[SupremeGuy]

I think you misunderstand the level of acceptability of DV in the black community. It's not taken lightly at all. It's just that there are fewer men who have a stake in protecting women (like black fathers will kill a man for beating their daughter as readily as any other father, but there just aren't all that many of them). It's not a black platform that abuse is okay at all. They have no problem standing with women in this case.

But, no, I don't have a huge problem with coalitionalism. There's not a democratic governmental system that doesn't have it in some form (and it's a really big deal for parliamentary systems). That fact that you seem to be framing the issue as special interests versus a homogeneous group suggests you don't really grasp the political landscape, no offense. "White Christian men" is its own coalition of people who don't agree with each other on a lot of issues either but band together to try to push their own interests through. The formation of the Confederacy was very much a coalition between planters and yeomanry, the latter of whom was pretty much tricked into supporting the former through propaganda. That union is the reason why the Republican Party is splitting in two now.Not sharing your opinion on the subject doesn't mean that I don't grasp the current political landscape, tbh.

If you believe the Republican party is breaking up then you must believe the same for the Democrats seeing as how they're also divided by those in the party who wish to become further liberal and those who wish to remain moderate. It's happening to both parties, tbh.

Perhaps, the best thing for America, would be to have a viable third party for the moderates. Not one that's completely governed by special interest groups or one that's stereotyped as racist, rich white men.

[Chinook]

Not sharing your opinion on the subject doesn't mean that I don't grasp the current political landscape, tbh.

If you believe the Republican party is breaking up then you must believe the same for the Democrats seeing as how they're also divided by those in the party who wish to become further liberal and those who wish to remain moderate. It's happening to parties, tbh.

That was my point. As soon as two people pool their votes together, they are forming a coalition, with all the good and bad that entails. That's just a reality of politics. You have liberals who have to pretend to be outraged at everything and conservatives who keep voting out their moderates. In some form or another, there are these problems in every democratic nation.

Wasn't trying to be offensive.

[SupremeGuy]

Wasn't trying to be offensive.No offense taken, tbh. :toast

Damn ST has me finishing every short sentence with "tbh." lol It's a hard habit to break.

[The Gemini Method]

tbh

[Killakobe81]

That's what happens when the media becomes controlled by minority and special interest groups. It does get pretty funny when there's conflict between two different groups though. Like right now, black players have to pretend they're outraged at Ray Rice for knocking his bitch out, but deep down they don't care and find that behavior acceptable in the black community. They're only acting different on camera to appease the feminists. It's quite amazing just what's happening in America right now.

I think it's crazy the culture shift to a morally outrage policed society ... but you act as though things were better when the media was controlled by the former majority (white/jewish). This country has it's flaws always has ... No domestic violence isnt anymore accepted in black communities (as far as I can tell) ... in fact strong black women and men will tell you a cat that hits a woman especially a pregnant one ... is the lowest of the low.

For example, when SAS got suspended he wasnt saying that DV victims deserved what they got. He was speaking about women who place themselves in bad situations and agitate those situations. If you watch that video Ray's wife did agitate him ... I just dont think any agitation deserves the "shot" she got. He should have just shaken her (a la Chris Rock) if he needed to remind her how strong he was ... the hit when way to far ... As strong as he is, if he just grabbed both arms he could have shut dat situation down. He chose to knock out the mother of his kid and got what he deserved. But there is a type of women (especially loud black ones but I have seen whites and latinas do this too) where they curse yell, hit taunt and challenge a man ... in a way that many men can only take so much. Again, not saying he should have hit her he is scum for doing that to pregnant woman ... but for BEadle and others to act like women dont certain things to "provoke" an ass whupping? Is being naive ...he still should have stopped himself but that video also shows she was not passive in the incident.

I should be careful ... I might get called a supporter of abuse for this post ... when in fact I thought Ray should have got a one year ban. I just felt SSA and even Kellerman got screwed by the morale (not liberal) police for being honest.

[florige]

If I were Ray Rice I would had called whoever I needed to call at that casino and broke the bank to get my hands on that tape. No way I let that leak out to the general public. Me and TMZ would be in a bidding war for that tape.

[Chinook]

CFL?

CFL said they won't sign him as long as he is still suspended by the league.

[san antonio spurs]

I don't understand how this video changed anything. In the first video she looked like a dead deer. How else did they think that happened?

The video changed everything... it's true people saw her unconscious but they thought maybe she instigated it...Ray had no record, he was believed to be a model citizen who made a mistake, and that maybe she assaulted him so hard a la Solange Knowles that he had to defend himself...

In this video you see that Ray is the instigator. He says something to her in the hall and she reacts but still she passes by him. However when they get in the elevator, Ray instigates it again by spiting in her face, she pushes him and he punches her lightly, she comes to him with both hands down and he knocks her out.
The most troubling part of the video, at least for me, is the reaction he had after that. Not fazed by it one bit. Not worried at all, like it wasn't the first time. He doesn't bother to cover her up or lift her up even though he's strong. At one time, he pushes her with his leg etc...

So yeah the video changes everything because it provides context...and not a good one for Ray.

[Clipper Nation]

libertarians like Romney
:lmao

[Raven]

They probably expected her to have flopped tbh...

[Chinook]

:lmao

I don't think Romney really cares about anything other than money. He'd say anything to be elected.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't think Romney really cares about anything other than money. He'd say anything to be elected.
That doesn't mean he's libertarian, tbh....

[Pelicans78]

im confused, I thought we already knew he knocked the dumb bish out, she shouldnt have came at him like that imo

That's not what happened. She didn't do anything in the video. He was the aggressor the whole time and hit her first and then finally knocked her out.

[Pelicans78]

I don't understand how this video changed anything. In the first video she looked like a dead deer. How else did they think that happened?

There was this perception that she was in the instigator by being a bitch and attacking him when he was the aggressor the whole time. His defense tried to make her look like she started the whole thing and the team, media, and league pretty much went that route. This video proves she didn't instigate anything.

[djohn2oo8]

509121229065048064

Ohh shit sonss

[HI-FI]

I think it's crazy the culture shift to a morally outrage policed society ... but you act as though things were better when the media was controlled by the former majority (white/jewish). This country has it's flaws always has ... No domestic violence isnt anymore accepted in black communities (as far as I can tell) ... in fact strong black women and men will tell you a cat that hits a woman especially a pregnant one ... is the lowest of the low.

For example, when SAS got suspended he wasnt saying that DV victims deserved what they got. He was speaking about women who place themselves in bad situations and agitate those situations. If you watch that video Ray's wife did agitate him ... I just dont think any agitation deserves the "shot" she got. He should have just shaken her (a la Chris Rock) if he needed to remind her how strong he was ... the hit when way to far ... As strong as he is, if he just grabbed both arms he could have shut dat situation down. He chose to knock out the mother of his kid and got what he deserved. But there is a type of women (especially loud black ones but I have seen whites and latinas do this too) where they curse yell, hit taunt and challenge a man ... in a way that many men can only take so much. Again, not saying he should have hit her he is scum for doing that to pregnant woman ... but for BEadle and others to act like women dont certain things to "provoke" an ass whupping? Is being naive ...he still should have stopped himself but that video also shows she was not passive in the incident.

I should be careful ... I might get called a supporter of abuse for this post ... when in fact I thought Ray should have got a one year ban. I just felt SSA and even Kellerman got screwed by the morale (not liberal) police for being honest.
i kind of see what you're saying. he definitely went overboard and is paying the price, but women, especially black women, love to get attitude and push their limits.

I'm just glad Goodell finally suspended him indefinitely instead of coming down hard on others just because Goodell looked like such a clueless moron to begin with.

I have to wonder if the NFL regrets not calling offensive holding on the Ravens throughout their SB run, but that's water under the bridge imo.

[spurraider21]

i kind of see what you're saying. he definitely went overboard and is paying the price, but women, especially black women, love to get attitude and push their limits.

I'm just glad Goodell finally suspended him indefinitely instead of coming down hard on others just because Goodell looked like such a clueless moron to begin with.

I have to wonder if the NFL regrets not calling offensive holding on the Ravens throughout their SB run, but that's water under the bridge imo.
:lol apparently not

[HI-FI]

:lol apparently not
I'm Not Bitter (Just a Lot) by Minus 5 could be my theme song.

[AlexJones]

There wouldn't be an outrage if the bitch was white. In fact the media would actually point out she hit him first.

[Thebesteva]

I don't understand how this video changed anything. In the first video she looked like a dead deer. How else did they think that happened?

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/54171572.jpg

[Captivus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOOw46pRRXQ

[djohn2oo8]

New Jersey police saying the NFL never asked for the tape

[tmtcsc]

Why the hell was his wife arrested in the 1st place? And why the hell did she marry him the next day? Should have sued his ass, kept custody of the kid and found a man who didn't like hitting women. It didn't look like this was his first time hitting her did it?

[DD]

Why the hell was his wife arrested in the 1st place? And why the hell did she marry him the next day? Should have sued his ass, kept custody of the kid and found a man who didn't like hitting women. It didn't look like this was his first time hitting her did it?

det sig...

[tmtcsc]

det sig...

I know brother, I know.

[Chinook]

Why the hell was his wife arrested in the 1st place?

Because she hit him first (and spit on him apparently). Despite people acting like that doesn't matter, the police didn't see it that way. They classified this originally as two acts of assault. That's why they both had to go to counseling. That's why she apologized during the first press conference.

[djohn2oo8]

Because she hit him first (and spit on him apparently). Despite people acting like that doesn't matter, the police didn't see it that way. They classified this originally as two acts of assault. That's why they both had to go to counseling. That's why she apologized during the first press conference.

He spit on her.

[Chinook]

He spit on her.

Debatable. I hear it both ways, and not just from Ravens fans.

[LkrFan]

I'm Not Bitter (Just a Lot) by Minus 5 could be my theme song.
Hold up. Were you NOT a Cowboy fan just last week? -20 points son. SMH

[Chinook]

Hold up. Were you NOT a Cowboy fan just last week? -20 points son. SMH

H has been a 9ers fan for as long as I've been on the NFL Forum.

[dbreiden83080]

Why the hell was his wife arrested in the 1st place? And why the hell did she marry him the next day? Should have sued his ass, kept custody of the kid and found a man who didn't like hitting women. It didn't look like this was his first time hitting her did it?

Another woman convinced she deserves to get beat up. She probably was reacting to news that he cheated on her for about the 20th time when she hit him first.. Basically she is stupid..

[Thebesteva]

This video reminds me so much of the incident for some reason


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NCW5_kubWU

[J.T.]

I totally sat there and debated between Rice and Moreno in like the 6th round in fantasy. You know that feeling you get when you had to make a tough decision and it turns out you were right? Yep, that's where I'm at.

[HI-FI]

I'm not a Ravens guy or Rice fan but I wouldn't mind if he got another chance in the league. I instinctively hate when everyone piles on one person or makes them a pariah.

H has been a 9ers fan for as long as I've been on the NFL Forum.
:tu
I don't even know what BnrFan is referring to. I go easy on Cowboys because my brother gets so depressed, plus I watch their games a lot due to regional coverage, but I mainly want to see the Cowboys' trainwreck every year.

[Clipper Nation]

Everybody knows HI-FI is a Donkey fan, he's firmly attached to that Fivehead dick every Sunday :lol

[HI-FI]

Everybody knows HI-FI (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34236) is a Donkey fan, he's firmly attached to that Fivehead dick every Sunday :lol

says HeatCavalier Nation. I've been a Niners fan since I was a kid. I am a huge Manning fan though and have no hate for the Broncos since I lived there as well.

[Chinook]

This video reminds me so much of the incident for some reason


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NCW5_kubWU

Looks like two gorillas to me.

[Spurs9]

:lol president of women's group asking for Goodells resignation

[AchillesHeel]

This shit is ridiculous. Everyone (including the NFL, especially the NFL, since they had this before) KNEW this happened. He knocked her out and dragged her out of an elevator after some argument they had. They are still going strong and have obviously worked it out already. NFL saw the footage and Goodell gave him 2 games.

All of a sudden, TMZ releases the video, which shows EXACTLY what Ray Rice had said before and what we all knew happened, and now he gets cut + banned from the NFL? The fuck is wrong with the society nowadays.

I am not supporting what Rice did nor am I supporting domestic violence, but he got his punishment already and the video didn't really give us any new insight on him. Funny how NFL has come to this, banning players due to public outcry about a personal situation that the player already worked out with the person he assaulted...

Suspending him for 2 games might have been a little light, but banning him from the league? Are you kidding me?

[djohn2oo8]

This shit is ridiculous. Everyone (including the NFL, especially the NFL, since they had this before) KNEW this happened. He knocked her out and dragged her out of an elevator after some argument they had. They are still going strong and have obviously worked it out already. NFL saw the footage and Goodell gave him 2 games.

All of a sudden, TMZ releases the video, which shows EXACTLY what Ray Rice had said before and what we all knew happened, and now he gets cut + banned from the NFL? The fuck is wrong with the society nowadays.

I am not supporting what Rice did nor am I supporting domestic violence, but he got his punishment already and the video didn't really give us any new insight on him. Funny how NFL has come to this, banning players due to public outcry about a personal situation that the player already worked out with the person he assaulted...

Suspending him for 2 games might have been a little light, but banning him from the league? Are you kidding me?

Goodell is so fucking stupid to think the video wouldn't come out

[florige]

Goodell is so fucking stupid to think the video wouldn't come out


I'm just shocked that Goodell, but more importantly Rice didn't do any and everything in their power to get hold of that tape. Had that had been me I would had personally called up someone at the Casino's security office and would had literally said to his or her name your price.

[The Gemini Method]

I don't buy that Goodell went the extra mile to get that first piece of video. I mean, all casions have elevator cameras and to have that access should've been easily obtained even if the police denied them. Grease the palm and then make your verdict. Giving him 2 games by just going off what was doled out makes it look like he jumped too early. However, purchasing it up would've been the move many of us would've done outside of not hitting a female of course...

[djohn2oo8]

509807167617400832

Ohh shit sons

[The Gemini Method]

About to get real sons! Fire the Goodell regime!

[djohn2oo8]

riginally Posted by HillBoy
This just hit the AP newswire: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-ne...deo-sent-nfl-0

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said they were unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because they wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.

The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.

The league says it has no record of the video, and no one in the league office had seen it until Monday. When asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.

The person said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify the law enforcement official as the source.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell initially suspended Rice for two games following the February incident, but the Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely after the website TMZ released the video.

Goodell told CBS on Tuesday

[MeloHype]

509810982982778880:lol

[DJR210]

509807167617400832

Ohh shit sons


About to get real sons! Fire the Goodell regime!


509810982982778880:lol

:lmao can you imagine the shit storm when the women's right's activists get their chance to voice their opinion? To quote the great Terrell Owens, "Get your popcorn ready".

[HI-FI]

NFL is already trying to get female audience with Breast Awareness schtick. This won't look good.

Goodell is such a self righteous prick, i never liked him when he took office and destroyed the Spygate evidence since Kraft helped get him the job.

I bet they'll fire the person who made contact with the cops, pay him/her off after letting them go and Goodell will continue as shittiest commish since Stern.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm not in any way condoning what Ray Rice did, but it's bullshit if this ends up destroying his career and I hope he sues the NFL's ass off. I'm sure it would be a CBA violation if the NFL suspends him twice for the same offense, and Rice has more than enough evidence to show his punishment is capricious and excessive compared to what the punishment has always been.

[LakerHater]

Steelers and the NFL declined to punish him for what was essentially a deferred disposition (like Rice) on a DV charge

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3284544 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3284544)

[Chinook]

I'm not in any way condoning what Ray Rice did, but it's bullshit if this ends up destroying his career and I hope he sues the NFL's ass off. I'm sure it would be a CBA violation if the NFL suspends him twice for the same offense, and Rice has more than enough evidence to show his punishment is capricious and excessive compared to what the punishment has always been.

Hell, it's excessive compared to the new rules that were made in reaction to his incident. The NFL has a real fight on their hands if Rice wants to go for it. They would have had problems had they just added four games onto his original suspension. To say what he did was worth at least 10 more games than any other type of DV is insane, especially considering all the mitigating circumstances surrounding the Rice incident that don't usual apply to NFL DV cases.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm not in any way condoning what Ray Rice did, but it's bullshit if this ends up destroying his career and I hope he sues the NFL's ass off. I'm sure it would be a CBA violation if the NFL suspends him twice for the same offense, and Rice has more than enough evidence to show his punishment is capricious and excessive compared to what the punishment has always been.

Not sure if the players union is willing to take that fight and get public outrage from it.

[lefty]

:lmao more lies

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/09/10/roger-goodell-video-casino-ray-rice

[SupremeGuy]

lol @ paul george

lol @ anyone pretending the black community doesn't condone and accept domestic violence

[AaronY]

Shortening domestic violence to "DV" is insanely dorky. Please stop people

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[mojorizen7]

NFL is already trying to get female audience with Breast Awareness schtick. This won't look good.

Goodell is such a self righteous prick, i never liked him when he took office and destroyed the Spygate evidence since Kraft helped get him the job.

I bet they'll fire the person who made contact with the cops, pay him/her off after letting them go and Goodell will continue as shittiest commish since Stern.
Truth.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Drew Forrester ‏@itsahooded4iron · 32s
Don't be surprised if we find out today that select #Ravens staffers saw the Rice knockout video before 9/8 TMZ leak.

[Kawhi]

Hopefully they take away a couple of their draft picks

[djohn2oo8]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl


Holy fuck they are in deep shit

[TE]

Rip ravens and that owner

[djohn2oo8]

Meanwhile Jerry Jones still walking around a proud owner lol

[Kawhi]

Meanwhile Jerry Jones still walking around a proud owner lol
http://i.imgur.com/EVQstQe.png

[Kawhi]

@ProFootballTalk: New report says John Harbaugh wanted to cut Ray Rice in February but was overruled, Ravens deny this http://wp.me/p14QSB-9zPp

[Chinook]

So is Harbaugh gonna be promoted to Head of Football Operations while Bischotti sells the team? I just don't get the point of lying about seeing the video. All it did was leave an opening for Rice to protest. The NFL is going to get harder than Janay over this.

[djohn2oo8]

513089300355768320

[djohn2oo8]

But within hours of the elevator attack, an employee of the Ravens was describing the inside-elevator video to friends in graphic detail, telling confidants that Rice knocked out his then-fiancée with a punch and that the video was "really bad," according to a source close to a Ravens official.
"I was told, 'It has to get better for Ray Rice, or he's going to get cut,' " the source said.

[Aztecfan03]

513089300355768320

That makes Goodell look bad in even more ways.

[Bill_Brasky]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl


Holy fuck they are in deep shit


The Ravens also consulted frequently with Rice's Philadelphia defense attorney, Michael J. Diamondstein,



:lmao

[Chinook]

Diamondstein might be the most Jewish surname in history.

If I were the Ravens, I would have wanted Rice to be suspended the whole season, rather than just two games. He was essentially done, and that would have helped Baltimore get out of his contract more easily. There certainly wasn't a reason to call in a favor to get Rice's suspension reduced so much. Ray just isn't that important.

[SupremeGuy]

Roger trying to do Rice and the Ravens a solid and now everyone is attacking him for it. There's a lesson to be learned here, don't fucking help people. lol

[Aztecfan03]

Diamondstein might be the most Jewish surname in history.



Goldstein might be the only thing that beats it. Unless someone's name is Moneystein

[pgardn]

For its part, the NFL -- which in other player discipline cases has been able to obtain information that's been sealed by court order -- took an uncharacteristically passive approach when it came to gathering evidence, opening itself up to widespread criticism, allegations of inconsistent approaches to player discipline and questions about whether Goodell gave Rice -- the corporate face of the Baltimore franchise -- a light punishment as a favor to his good friend Bisciotti. Four sources said Ravens executives, including Bisciotti, Cass and Newsome, urged Goodell and other league executives to give Rice no more than a two-game suspension, and that's what Goodell did on July 24.


But Ray is a good guy, it was a mistake...

Bunch of BS colluding with the Ravens, they have to have their hero.

Rice can now make hay with the NFL's and Raven's desire to keep such a great guy playing.
The NFL again proves they cannot be trusted. Concussions, old vets without knees, now this.
Beautiful. They did their best to downplay the whole thing, ultimately at the expense of a woman beater.
And there are no good guys left, hilarious.

[Chris]

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10641299_10154661200085217_4271349011286818325_n.j pg?oh=d1b4497d3cc437fc3ba62f1532a1144d&oe=548BE047

[Kawhi]

538421767359172609

[djohn2oo8]

538421767359172609

Nice, just scooped him up.

[Spur-Addict]

Nice, just scooped him up.

And who do you anticipate will want him to play with five games left in the season, and with all the scrutiny that will be unnecessary which they could avoid by just waiting until the offseason?

[djohn2oo8]

And who do you anticipate will want him to play with five games left in the season, and with all the scrutiny that will be unnecessary which they could avoid by just waiting until the offseason?

IDK, I have him as a backup in case some team is desperate enough. All it takes is one

[Spur-Addict]

IDK, I have him as a backup in case some team is desperate enough. All it takes is one

True.

But as I look around the league, of the teams that are in contention, or on the borderline, I just don't see a need. And if I'm a shit team this year, surely you want to avoid more negative headlines on top of being shit. I could be wrong though, worth the risk for an end roster spot I guess.

[Robz4000]

Chargers may just be desperate enough with Mathews always a concern tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

and lol gooddell. Another hit to his legacy

[Spur-Addict]

Chargers may just be desperate enough with Mathews always a concern tbh.

Understandable. But do you really want feminist protesters showing up at games, and having the media on top of you just to pick up a guy who has been underperforming the last few years who once had a name? Not to mention all the social media bullshit etc. I'm not saying he can't return to some portion/percentage of his former ability, but it would be easier to smooth over in the offseason given the risks, and his lack of recent performance.

[Spur-Addict]

If you're fighting for a playoff spot, the last thing you want is to have the team focus on things other than football.

[Robz4000]

Understandable. But do you really want feminist protesters showing up at games, and having the media on top of you just to pick up a guy who has been underperforming the last few years who once had a name? Not to mention all the social media bullshit etc. I'm not saying he can't return to some portion/percentage of his former ability, but it would be easier to smooth over in the offseason given the risks, and his lack of recent performance.

It's the Chargers. They'd prolly kill a busload of babies if it meant more people would show up at Qualcomm.

[Spur-Addict]

It's the Chargers. They'd prolly kill a busload of babies if it meant more people would show up at Qualcomm.

:lol Fair Enough

[Malik Hairston]

Ray Rice isn't even a good RB anymore:lol..

Even if you think he has anything left in the tank, it's certainly not enough to warrant the controversy and drama that will surround the potential move..

[J.T.]

Indianapolis tbh. Just lost Bradshaw for the season, and the organization has no business trying to deflect that they don't believe in second chances what with their owner going to court for drug addiction.

They were active af last week trying to get Ben Tate and Legarrette Blount. Oh Rice hit a woman, nevermind we don't need a RB that bad. Bullshit, take Rice. God kills a puppy every time Richardson carries for no gain.

[Clipper Nation]

But do you really want feminist protesters showing up at games

Better than the status quo, which is nobody showing up at games :lol

[Kawhi]

Indianapolis tbh. Just lost Bradshaw for the season, and the organization has no business trying to deflect that they don't believe in second chances what with their owner going to court for drug addiction.

They were active af last week trying to get Ben Tate and Legarrette Blount. Oh Rice hit a woman, nevermind we don't need a RB that bad. Bullshit, take Rice. God kills a puppy every time Richardson carries for no gain.
Colts aren't interested in Ray Rice

[313]

God kills a puppy every time Richardson carries for no gain.
:lol