Trade Deadline Thread

[Bruno]

Trade deadline is Thursday 3pm ET.

Use this thread to talk about non-Spurs related rumors/deals or Spurs rumors not worth having a specific thread.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)RT @NotoriousOHM (https://twitter.com/NotoriousOHM/): League sources say Nets have interest in Jarrett Jack. One source says Jason Terry for Jack is possibility before deadline

[Chinook]

Would be a queer trade to say the least. The Nets actually have two good point guards. They don't need Jack, but if they can get him for cheap, it's hard to say it's a bad move. At least he can net (pun) them an asset when they decide to blow it up.

[DesignatedT]

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[Texas_Ranger]

I really think that this year the Spurs are not going to make a move... But hey at least we have a backup SF and a real PG backup that we needed......... oh wait. :(

and again lol at Errors being on the team and playing basketball.

[cd98]

I think the Spurs will try and make a move. Depends on whether the asking price is too high. Does anyone want to see us give up a first round draft pick for a player that may be 9 or 10 on our bench? We'll need to rebuild, and even a late draft pick in next year's draft will most likely be a solid pick, and at any rate, will be a player on a low salary.

[ace3g]

Not built (or doesn't have Pop's trust) for playoff games
- Ayres
- Nando
- Bonner
- CJ
- Baynes

Depth chart without those players:

PG: TP/Patty
SG: Green/Manu/Beli
SF: Kawhi
PF: Timmy, Diaw
C: Splitter

[kjhip1]

anyone hear about the crazy trade scenario Mike Wilbon mentioned in his chat: R. Westbrook for Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, and Reymond felton..pretty ridiculous if you ask me

[look_at_g_shred]

Ayres or Bonner plus Mills an a first for Young and Wroten

[Mal]

Ayres or Bonner plus Mills an a first for Young and Wroten

Dont trade Patty. Let him walk in the offseason to Philly.

[Chinook]

Not built (or doesn't have Pop's trust) for playoff games
- Ayres
- Nando
- Bonner
- CJ
- Baynes

Depth chart without those players:

PG: TP/Patty
SG: Green/Manu/Beli
SF: Kawhi
PF: Timmy, Diaw
C: Splitter

I think you should switch Cory and Patty. I don't how anyone can think Mills is built for the post-season or that Pop would trust him over Joseph in the playoffs. Wishful thinking on the part of some fans.

[ace3g]

I think you should switch Cory and Patty. I don't how anyone can think Mills is built for the post-season or that Pop would trust him over Joseph in the playoffs. Wishful thinking on the part of some fans.

I was questioning placing Patty in the "depth chart" section; either way there is still that ? for who would be the back up PG; further reinforcing my point that our depth isn't that great even when healthy.

[ace3g]

With the NBA trade deadline three days away, the Knicks continue to try to engage the Raptors in an attempt to acquire point guard Kyle Lowry (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry), according to league sources.

The Knicks are offering packages including Iman Shumpert (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6468/iman-shumpert), Raymond Felton (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2753/raymond-felton) and Beno Udrih (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2448/beno-udrih), sources say. They have been reluctant to include sharp-shooting rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2528210/tim-hardaway-jr) or a future first-round draft pick in any deal. One of those two pieces are believed to be a prerequisite for Toronto to consider giving up Lowry.

"It comes down to, can they talk themselves into getting rid of a first-rounder or Hardaway Jr. for Lowry," one league source said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/53998/sources-knicks-still-pursuing-lowry?src=mobile

[Libri]

BIG NAMES LIKELY TO STAY PUT AT NBA’S TRADE DEADLINE

?http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/big-names-likely-stay-put-nbas-trade-deadline.html

[hater]

I was questioning placing Patty in the "depth chart" section; either way there is still that ? for who would be the back up PG; further reinforcing my point that our depth isn't that great even when healthy.

Our playoff depth is fine. All NBA teams have similar or worse depth. you don't really need depth in the playoffs. Miami has been playing 7 guys 90% of the time during the playoffs.

our problem is not depth IMO. It starts with Parker and goes on to Kawhi, Duncan, Splitter. will they show up?

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Los Angeles, Brooklyn have discussed Jordan Hill deal into the Nets' Disabled Player Exception, league sources tell Yahoo.

[Libri]

Bulls writer Sam Smith reports that the Celtics want two unprotected first-round draft picks in any trade for Rajon Rondo-per rotoworld

[playbonner15]

I hope Pop calls around teams and tell them "Tim's gonna retire after this. Give us who we want." Then the team will get the right piece they need.

Spurs FO got this.

[Chomag]

Someone go wake up Pop or RC!

[TheGoldStandard]

Our playoff depth is fine. All NBA teams have similar or worse depth. you don't really need depth in the playoffs. Miami has been playing 7 guys 90% of the time during the playoffs.

our problem is not depth IMO. It starts with Parker and goes on to Kawhi, Duncan, Splitter. will they show up?

Depth is a problem, we have 1 young sf and a bunch of sg to take his place that are terrible defenders. Need another sf.

Splitter will show up for 1 game maybe 2 and then just kind of blend in or get hurt again, guys already got paid so why does he need to try.

[slick'81]

It has been real quiet

[hater]

Depth is a problem, we have 1 young sf and a bunch of sg to take his place that are terrible defenders. Need another sf.

Splitter will show up for 1 game maybe 2 and then just kind of blend in or get hurt again, guys already got paid so why does he need to try.

the "young sf" needs to play 40 playoff minutes a game. If he cannot, then we need to trade his ass ASAP. he's fucking 22

our playoff depth is fine. We got bigger problems than depth

[objective]

Someone go wake up Pop or RC!

hopefully there's an ample supply of hangover remedies and car service standing by all week.

[marinoman]

what the hell happend to Jarrett Jack. I actually wanted him on the Spurs last year, i clearly dont have an eye for talent

[Chinook]

Our playoff depth is fine. All NBA teams have similar or worse depth. you don't really need depth in the playoffs. Miami has been playing 7 guys 90% of the time during the playoffs.

our problem is not depth IMO. It starts with Parker and goes on to Kawhi, Duncan, Splitter. will they show up?

Yeah. Either the team needs to upgrade the top seven/eight or just make a small trade for RS filler. If Pop runs a regular playoff rotation, it's gonna be hard for Beli to get a lot of minutes, let alone another wing.

[Robz4000]

Bulls writer Sam Smith reports that the Celtics want two unprotected first-round draft picks in any trade for Rajon Rondo-per rotoworld

:lmao

[Chinook]

I was questioning placing Patty in the "depth chart" section; either way there is still that ? for who would be the back up PG; further reinforcing my point that our depth isn't that great even when healthy.

If you look at the stats, Cory's been playing really well recently. I think his time at the two has served him well.

[objective]

the team needs another player who can perform in a wcf or finals when things get tight and players have to step up. The offseason became a failure when the front office didn't get a player like that. it's why the Spurs not clearing cap space was a disaster because it kept them from getting a Kirilenko, who they would have had with cap room but instead found themselves at the mercy of Minnesota's willingness to take on a year of salary in a trade. unfortunately in the end they just replaced Neal with Belineli. not enough of an improvement, but in the meantime OKC improved both internally and drafting a rotation big.

SA could have improved internally but couldn't even remember that Kawhi was on the team, let alone involve him in the offense more.

[DMC]

If we end up with anyone, it will be another 3pt shooter. We don't have enough already.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Minnesota, Memphis discussing trade package centered on Chase Budinger and Tayshaun Prince. yhoo.it/M7K2k7 (http://t.co/hqSLMWFNJQ)

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I hope Pop calls around teams and tell them "Tim's gonna retire after this. Give us who we want." Then the team will get the right piece they need.

Spurs FO got this.

Lol. I was thinking the exact same thing.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

the "young sf" needs to play 40 playoff minutes a game. If he cannot, then we need to trade his ass ASAP. he's fucking 22

our playoff depth is fine. We got bigger problems than depth

My sentiments exactly!

[Chinook]

The NYC teams to get over themselves. No one's gonna give them starting players for free. They have few assets and need to temper their expectations.

Memphis and Minny are just trying to shake things up. Not going to help either.

[ace3g]

10. Golden State Warriors (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/gsw) (31-22; last week's ranking: 9): Golden State executives have told forward Harrison Barnes that, barring a blockbuster offer, he will not be traded before Thursday's deadline, sources said.

19. New Orleans Pelicans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/) (23-29; last week's ranking: 19): Source said New Orleans could be trading guard Austin Rivers and the rights to hot-scoring D-League guard Pierre Jackson.

22. New York Knicks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nyk) (20-32; last week's ranking: 22): New York is trying to make a deal before the trade deadline to show Carmelo Anthony they’re serious about improving.

25. Sacramento Kings (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sac) (18-35; last week's ranking: 24): The Kings are in the market for a veteran backup point guard who pushes the ball, a source said.

26. Boston Celtics (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/bos) (19-35; last week's ranking: 26): Source said Sacramento offered Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and two picks for Rajon Rondo. Rondo wasn’t interested in re-signing with Sacramento.

29. Philadelphia 76ers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/phi/) (15-39, last week's ranking: 28): The Sixers will be looking to move Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes and also could be a third team in a big trade, a source said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-power-rankings--will-rockets-keep-momentum-going-post-all-star-break-010802982-nba.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[loveforthegame]

Please tell me that Kings offer is joke. Why would they do that? :bang

[td4mvp2k]

With the NBA trade deadline three days away, the Knicks continue to try to engage the Raptors in an attempt to acquire point guard Kyle Lowry (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry), according to league sources.The Knicks are offering packages including Iman Shumpert (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6468/iman-shumpert), Raymond Felton (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2753/raymond-felton) and Beno Udrih (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2448/beno-udrih), sources say. They have been reluctant to include sharp-shooting rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2528210/tim-hardaway-jr) or a future first-round draft pick in any deal. One of those two pieces are believed to be a prerequisite for Toronto to consider giving up Lowry. "It comes down to, can they talk themselves into getting rid of a first-rounder or Hardaway Jr. for Lowry," one league source said.would be great if spurs can get in on that

[SpurPadre]

i've heard boylen tried to convince pop and rc that we needed to make a trade for a SF because he sees that we don't have one. When they told him about kawhi, boylen reportedly said ''why? Because we've been playing without a true wing player all year, that's why!" And pop and rc then said, "no we mean kawhi Leonard, the guy you forgot to put in that one game. He's our true wing player!" Boylen apparently left, confused, trying to figure out who the hell they were talking about before heading over to see Ayres.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Bulls will sign D-League forward Jarvis Varnado to a 10-day contract, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. He worked out in Chicago on Monday.

[cd021]

Not built (or doesn't have Pop's trust) for playoff games
- Ayres
- Nando
- Bonner
- CJ
- Baynes

Depth chart without those players:

PG: TP/Patty
SG: Green/Manu/Beli
SF: Kawhi
PF: Timmy, Diaw
C: Splitter

Yep. With Kawhi playing small ball 4 and Manu sharing the floor with Patty and Beli as SF.

[ace3g]

“The public probably views us more as sellers than as buyers,” Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge told the Globe recently. “But I do think that people around the league know that we have some good players — good veteran players, good young players — and lots of draft picks. I’ve had calls for both.


“I’ve had teams contact me with the idea of trying to acquire young players and draft picks, and I’ve had teams that have called that are looking to get some of those. And I’ve had teams that have called looking for some of our veteran players as well. I think it just depends on who you talk to, but I think everybody knows that we have a lot of young assets.”

“I really don’t have an answer for that,” Ainge said. “I mean, trades sort of come out of nowhere a lot of times. A lot of times they’re from past conversations that rekindle when deals are not going to happen, and then, all of the sudden, someone changes their mind. I really don’t know how much dealing there will be around the league or how much dealing we’ll do.”

“I think the difference between other years and this year is that there’s a lot of different directions we could go,” Ainge said. “In past years, we’re focusing on just getting better for the playoff run. And now, we’re looking for possibilities of flexibility, young assets, things of that nature, but, at the same time, [we’re] opportunistic for any deals that could come along and speed up our rebuilding process.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/02/18/danny-ainge-mulling-what-with-celtics-assets-trade-deadline-approaches/DP9joIA61FrpoISQ5eYpNL/story.html

[Baam]

^ interesting, I still like the idea of taking back Wallace to buy picks...

They obviously won't trade their best pick but they have another pick that's currently 19th in the first round... And two picks next years as well.

[exstatic]

^ interesting, I still like the idea of taking back Wallace to buy picks...

They obviously won't trade their best pick but they have another pick that's currently 19th in the first round... And two picks next years as well.

If Tim is really rolling off this summer, they'll never take on a horrible contract like Wallace, especially for a pick (19) not much better than our own. For a contract with 2yrs/20M AFTER this year for a clearly failing player, you'd need a lottery pick in this year's draft.

[weeks]

i've heard boylen tried to convince pop and rc that we needed to make a trade for a SF because he sees that we don't have one. When they told him about kawhi, boylen reportedly said ''why? Because we've been playing without a true wing player all year, that's why!" And pop and rc then said, "no we mean kawhi Leonard, the guy you forgot to put in that one game. He's our true wing player!" Boylen apparently left, confused, trying to figure out who the hell they were talking about before heading over to see Ayres.
i really feel like the assistant coaching staff have a lot to do with our struggles this year.
i miss bud.

[21209]

i've heard boylen tried to convince pop and rc that we needed to make a trade for a SF because he sees that we don't have one. When they told him about kawhi, boylen reportedly said ''why? Because we've been playing without a true wing player all year, that's why!" And pop and rc then said, "no we mean kawhi Leonard, the guy you forgot to put in that one game. He's our true wing player!" Boylen apparently left, confused, trying to figure out who the hell they were talking about before heading over to see Ayres.

:lmao

[Raven]

^ interesting, I still like the idea of taking back Wallace to buy picks...

They obviously won't trade their best pick but they have another pick that's currently 19th in the first round... And two picks next years as well.

that's not the type of deal they would do. Either they sell a veteran for an expiring + pick or they would be looking at young players. They are not selling their young players or their picks unless they get better younger players or better picks tbh

[bklynspursfan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 3h (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/435733300275982336)
Charlotte had traction on deal to bring it Milwaukee's Caron Butler and Gary Neal, but talks crumbled in recent days, league sources tell Y!

[Bruno]

Ben Gordon for Neal and Butler would be a good deal for both teams.

[ace3g]

Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Clippers GM/coach Doc Rivers on the search for a big man to bolster his bench, league sources tell Yahoo.

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Clippers interested in flipping wing player (Dudley, perhaps Barnes) for frontcourt help, per source. Jamison, Mullens also available.


(https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/#)

[FvckMavs]

They might like Ayres. :hat


Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Clippers interested in flipping wing player (Dudley, perhaps Barnes) for frontcourt help, per source. Jamison, Mullens also available.


(https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/#)

[Clipper Nation]

They might like Ayres. :hat
Nah.... Mullens for Duncan, final offer :lol

[Dex]

Spurs won't trade Errors. Just not their standard MO to trade a first year player, no matter how bad he is floundering. Also doesn't make them look any more attractive to potential FAs down the line.

[ace3g]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(https://twitter.com/sam_amick)Rockets one of many teams wanting Dunleavy, but Bulls value him. Chicago has nothing in the works elsewhere yet, either, I'm told.

[ace3g]

Ken Berger ✔ @KBergCBS (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS) Follow (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS) New Orleans has made Anthony Morrow available for a draft pick, league source says. Morrow has a $1.15M player option for next season.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Toronto has expressed interest in Kenneth Faried, according to league sources. Masai Ujiri drafted Faried in Denver: basketballinsiders.com/raptors-expres… (http://t.co/S6Sok1HWDF)

[Baam]

Faried would be a nice fit on that team, a Faried/Amir PF rotation would be pretty good, wonder if we could somehow get Patterson in the process...

[ace3g]

11:19am: The Cavs and Kings have spoken about including Jason Thompson (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompja02.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.hoopsrumors.com) or Marcus Thornton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thornma01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.hoopsrumors.com) in a Jack deal, reports Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon Journal (http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/cavs-showing-interest-in-d-league-guard-pierre-jackson-among-others-1.467405).

[Bruno]

I hope Spurs won't enter in a bidding war for a mediocre player like Dunleavy and end up giving up a first round pick for him. If Spurs wanted a player like him, they should have signed him this summer instead of blowing their cap space on Bonner and Ayres.

Giving up a first round pick to get a player Spurs could have signed 6 months ago would be hard to understand.

[palangi]

I hope Spurs won't enter in a bidding war for a mediocre player like Dunleavy and end up giving up a first round pick for him. If Spurs wanted a player like him, they should have signed him this summer instead of blowing their cap space on Bonner and Ayres.

Giving up a first round pick to get a player Spurs could have signed 6 months ago would be hard to understand.
Or just go sign devin ebanks and waste a draft pick on dunleavy.

[Chinook]

I don't see how Jack for Thompson would help either team. Thompson will have to be moved soon anyway, but they get no financial relief unless they're willing to let Thomas go. Jack for Thorton and Thompson (and Acy) for Ayres and Bonner would be a good deal.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I hope Spurs won't enter in a bidding war for a mediocre player like Dunleavy and end up giving up a first round pick for him. If Spurs wanted a player like him, they should have signed him this summer instead of blowing their cap space on Bonner and Ayres.

Giving up a first round pick to get a player Spurs could have signed 6 months ago would be hard to understand.

Only if he is the only consolation prize when other targets (Young, M.Williams, Turner, etc) are either unavailable or far too costly. If they think they could repair the mistake by signing him by making a compensation, it isn't a bad idea.

[pad300]

I hope Spurs won't enter in a bidding war for a mediocre player like Dunleavy and end up giving up a first round pick for him. If Spurs wanted a player like him, they should have signed him this summer instead of blowing their cap space on Bonner and Ayres.

Giving up a first round pick to get a player Spurs could have signed 6 months ago would be hard to understand.

I agree that I'd hesitate to blow a pick on him as well, and they should have gone for him rather than Ayers and/or Bonner, but I wouldn't call Dunleavy mediocre. I would not hesitate to do something like

Dunleavy for De Colo, Baynes, Spurs 2014 2nd and Spurs 2016 2nd (the second pick is valuable as Duncan is expected to retire...)

[Baam]

I like the idea of adding Villanueva (buyout candidate) if they're not gonna go for a big target... Can space the floor for Splitter off the bench.

TD 35mn - Villanueva 13mn
Diaw 25mn - Splitter 23mn
Kawhi 38mn - Boris/Green 10mn

We don't have a 4th big right now with Ayres turning out like he did... Splitter is quick enough to play the 4 on D, so centers with range like Villanueva or Hawes would be good fits... That's another approach to the same issue (we're mostly talking combo forward but Boris can be the combo forward who plays 10 min at the 3 and Green can do also do it in some matchups).

The big con of that answer is that you have to play some TD-Splitter while getting a combo forward can prevent that but then again if we're paying Splitter to simply backup TD for 13 mn it's not worth it and even pretty ridiculous...

[Chinook]

I'd still entertain the idea of MWP for De Colo. I imagine he's done, but he can probably still play against be threes Green would struggle to guard and small fours.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Interesting Trade Deadline Week wrinkle: Hearing Pelicans poised to receive Disabled Player Exception in $4 mil range for Ryan Anderson

[Chinook]

I wonder if they'd be willing to take Bonner. If so, it lets the Spurs be a lot more creative with their trades, since they could just send out De Colo for a player like Ilyasova.

[ace3g]

The Rockets have renewed efforts to trade disgruntled center Omer Asik, with the Philadelphia 76ers emerging once again as a potential landing spot, league sources told CBSSports.com on Tuesday.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24447420/sources-rockets-exploring-asik-trades-again

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Sacramento and Brooklyn discussing a deal centered on Marcus Thornton for Jason Terry and Reggie Evans, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)For Sacramento and Brooklyn, this is one of several conversations officials are having with several teams

[monkeypunk]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Sacramento and Brooklyn discussing a deal centered on Marcus Thornton for Jason Terry and Reggie Evans, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.



Talk about mediocre pearls for swine.

[Raven]

I like the idea of adding Villanueva (buyout candidate) if they're not gonna go for a big target... Can space the floor for Splitter off the bench.

TD 35mn - Villanueva 13mn
Diaw 25mn - Splitter 23mn
Kawhi 38mn - Boris/Green 10mn

We don't have a 4th big right now with Ayres turning out like he did... Splitter is quick enough to play the 4 on D, so centers with range like Villanueva or Hawes would be good fits... That's another approach to the same issue (we're mostly talking combo forward but Boris can be the combo forward who plays 10 min at the 3 and Green can do also do it in some matchups).

The big con of that answer is that you have to play some TD-Splitter while getting a combo forward can prevent that but then again if we're paying Splitter to simply backup TD for 13 mn it's not worth it and even pretty ridiculous...

dear god.

[Chinook]

That would be a mistake for Brooklyn. Evans and Terry stand to help them more in the playoffs than Thornton would. Well, at least they might. They'd do much better going for a big with the exception. I like Robinson or Ilyasova for various assets.

[Bruno]

It seems to be a bad trade for both teams.

[Chinook]

I don't see why anyone would want Thorton when there are better options on the market.

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Sources: Lakers, Mavs maneuvering for Kevin Love. cbsprt.co/O5SYZo (http://t.co/kBZuCskkDy)

[dbestpro]

Wouldn't mind a move for Mbah Moute, and/or Turiaf. Minny might move em for peanuts to get out of some salary for next year.

[Chinook]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Sources: Lakers, Mavs maneuvering for Kevin Love. cbsprt.co/O5SYZo (http://t.co/kBZuCskkDy)



Not going to happen until next season's deadline at the earliest. When it does, however, the Spurs need to be in line. I see him going the Melo route much more than the Lebron route.

[Baam]

Not going to happen until next season's deadline at the earliest. When it does, however, the Spurs need to be in line. I see him going the Melo route much more than the Lebron route.

What do we have to offer tho? And not sure why it would happen with only a few months left on his deal, it'd be too dangerous for the Wolves...

Kawhi is the main asset we can send... The Lakers beat that with their unprotected 2014 first...

[DeadlyDynasty]

I want Love, but not at the cost of our 2014 1st rounder (Jabari Parker)...just wait till the end of next season and he'll be on our squad anyways.

Unless the Wolves want Paulina and some fillers instead...then I'm game

[poop]

LMAO at people still including Bonner in trade talks...Pop will NEVER part with bonner. Ever. Havent we learned this by now?

[Baam]

I want Love, but not at the cost of our 2014 1st rounder (Jabari Parker)...just wait till the end of next season and he'll be on our squad anyways.

Unless the Wolves want Paulina and some fillers instead...then I'm game

Paulina and Rubio would be a great recruiting duo for Gastrong in 2015... But that's not enough...

[Chinook]

What do we have to offer tho? And not sure why it would happen with only a few months left on his deal, it'd be too dangerous for the Wolves...

Kawhi is the main asset we can send... The Lakers beat that with their unprotected 2014 first...

I'd go Nets and offer the farm, especially if Kawhi and Tony could be kept out of the package.

[Raven]

Not going to happen until next season's deadline at the earliest. When it does, however, the Spurs need to be in line. I see him going the Melo route much more than the Lebron route.

why would you want him tbh..

[Chinook]

why would you want him tbh..

The Spurs will need a PF to take over for Tim when he retires. The cost of trading for him would be well worth avoiding the financial trouble of gutting the team to sign him.

[Mel_13]

Love will find his way to LA or NY.

[DPG21920]

I don't want Love. Don't like him or his game overall

[Raven]

The Spurs will need a PF to take over for Tim when he retires. The cost of trading for him would be well worth avoiding the financial trouble of gutting the team to sign him.

but why him?

[Libri]

I want Love, but not at the cost of our 2014 1st rounder (Jabari Parker)...just wait till the end of next season and he'll be on our squad anyways.

Unless the Wolves want Paulina and some fillers instead...then I'm game

Lakers already traded their 2015 pick to Phoenix. Therefore, they can't trade away their 2014 first round pick.

[Chinook]

I don't want Love. Don't like him or his game overall

So who would you like in 2015?

[Chinook]

but why him?

They need to take what they can get. Love, Aldridge, Bosh. Even Smith. Unless they can land a good young one of Leonard's caliber. I can't even think who would fit that mold.

[ace3g]

The Celtics have expressed some interest in acquiring Utah's Gordon Hayward, a league source tells CSNNE.com. Hayward, who starred for Celtics head coach Brad Stevens while at Butler, will become a restricted free agent this summer after he and the Jazz could not come to terms on an extension this past fall.
CSNNE (http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/source-celtics-interested-utahs-hayward)

[Baam]

Lakers already traded their 2015 pick to Phoenix. Therefore, they can't trade away their 2014 first round pick.

Yes they can as long as get another one back.

[Mel_13]

So who would you like in 2015?

I'd be ok with them following the path several Pop/RC disciples have followed.

[Chinook]

Yes they can as long as get another one back.

But it has to be completely unprotected. That's not easy to get right now.

[Baam]

why would you want him tbh..


I don't want Love. Don't like him or his game overall

:lol is this real life?

[Chinook]

I'd be ok with them following the path several Pop/RC disciples have followed.

You mean OKC's tanking path, or Atlanta's reloading path? Honestly, I can see either one. Depends on Parker. But provided the team tries to reload, whom would you want the team to go after?

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol is this real life?
We'll see how picky they are once Duncan retires and the grim truth settles in

[Mel_13]

You mean OKC's tanking path, or Atlanta's reloading path? Honestly, I can see either one. Depends on Parker. But provided the team tries to reload, whom would you want the team to go after?

OKC/Orlando/Philly. You're right about Parker. Going that route means he retires somewhere else.

I don't believe a reload is a realistic option. That's a road to sustained mediocrity, IMO.

[TheGoldStandard]

Bosh would be ideal.. He's beta enough to fall into line but he can be clutch and take over games.

[Chinook]

OKC/Orlando/Philly. You're right about Parker. Going that route means he retires somewhere else.

I don't believe a reload is a realistic option. That's a road to sustained mediocrity, IMO.

I can understand that, but I can also understand doing whatever it takes to win while you still have a HoFer. You can always blow it up after he leaves. It could take years to rebuild a championship-level supporting cast like this one.

Also, I'd hate to let Parker walk for nothing in 2015. If Duncan retires this season, I could see a fire sale, especially if Parker wants to move on. But he's their biggest asset, and getting nothing for him would really set this team back.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Most intriguing Sacramento-based deadline story is increasingly loud buzz out there that Isaiah Thomas is available in midst of career year


Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Kings moved swiftly today to make it clear Ben McLemore will NOT be dealt this week but strong word in circulation is Thomas CAN be had

[Raven]

They need to take what they can get. Love, Aldridge, Bosh. Even Smith. Unless they can land a good young one of Leonard's caliber. I can't even think who would fit that mold.

i don't like that idea, once the duncan era is gone, we need to tank, considering how long it has passed since a spurs pick was in the lottery (that is, duncan's pick), it's almost a given that the next one will win the lottery.

[Chinook]

The Kings can't re-sign Thomas, at least not without moving a forward. But it would be silly to have so many expensive bigs and no money invested in guards who aren't Marcus Thorton. Maybe Thomas WANTS out?

[Mel_13]

I can understand that, but I can also understand doing whatever it takes to win while you still have a HoFer. You can always blow it up after he leaves. It could take years to rebuild a championship-level supporting cast like this one.

Also, I'd hate to let Parker walk for nothing in 2015. If Duncan retires this season, I could see a fire sale, especially if Parker wants to move on. But he's their biggest asset, and getting nothing for him would really set this team back.

If Pop stays beyond 2015, then they probably try to reload around Tony and Kawhi. If not, they don't necessarily lose Tony for nothing. There are likely to be teams that would be interested in a Parker S&T.

[Chinook]

i don't like that idea, once the duncan era is gone, we need to tank, considering how long it has passed since a spurs pick was in the lottery (that is, duncan's pick), it's almost a given that the next one will win the lottery.

Wut?

I personally think reloading and seeing how Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter and a FA big pan out is a good strategy. Even though they probably won't be a contender, they should be able to win enough to keep things interesting for a while. It would suck to see them toil in obscurity like Detroit or Sacramento.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Is there anybody not up for grabs on the Kings?

[Mel_13]

Wut?

I personally think reloading and seeing how Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter and a FA big pan out is a good strategy. Even though they probably won't be a contender, they should be able to win enough to keep things interesting for a while. It would suck to see them toil in obscurity like Detroit or Sacramento.

Detroit is a bad example for your position. They've tried to reload.

[monkeypunk]

Is there anybody not up for grabs on the Kings?

Your mom?

:hat

[Mel_13]

Is there anybody not up for grabs on the Kings?

Thornton been mentioned. Landry and his horrendous contract are presumably available.

[Chinook]

If Pop stays beyond 2015, then they probably try to reload around Tony and Kawhi. If not, they don't necessarily lose Tony for nothing. There are likely to be teams that would be interested in a Parker S&T.

There could be, and Parker may ask for one to help the Spurs out. But I'm not sure the returns will be that great. It would probably be some salary and low-value picks. Just reading the tea leaves, I don't see a young player who seems like a good candidate to be part of a Parker S&T, especially from the large-market teams that would be his likely desired destinations.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Your mom?

:hat
I like your Kawhi Leonard sig

[Chinook]

Detroit is a bad example for your position. They've tried to reload.

Yeah, I thought about that. I will say they didn't try to build around anything, though. They traded or let walk their aging core and signed the best FAs they could. I think the top seven minus Duncan and Ginobili is a much stronger core of than Prince and an estranged Hamilton.

[Mel_13]

There could be, and Parker may ask for one to help the Spurs out. But I'm not sure the returns will be that great. It would probably be some salary and low-value picks. Just reading the tea leaves, I don't see a young player who seems like a good candidate to be part of a Parker S&T, especially from the large-market teams that would be his likely desired destinations.

Right. They likely don't get a big haul in that scenario, but the only way I see a big return for Parker is if Duncan retires and Parker is traded this summer.

[Raven]

Wut?

I personally think reloading and seeing how Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter and a FA big pan out is a good strategy. Even though they probably won't be a contender, they should be able to win enough to keep things interesting for a while. It would suck to see them toil in obscurity like Detroit or Sacramento.

i don't see what's good about being mediocre. Green, Splitter, Why can be the core of a new era, but we need at least one #1 pick to return contenders in a few years. Buying veterans would just make us the rockets tbh.

[Chinook]

i don't see what's good about being mediocre. Green, Splitter, Why can be the core of a new era, but we need at least one #1 pick to return contenders in a few years. Buying veterans would just make us the rockets tbh.

Houston seems to be doing all right for itself nowadays.

[Raven]

Houston seems to be doing all right for itself nowadays.

they tanked tbh.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

What happened to the Spurs getting Pau? :lol

[Chinook]

Right. They likely don't get a big haul in that scenario, but the only way I see a big return for Parker is if Duncan retires and Parker is traded this summer.

I don't even see a big haul then. Maybe to the Lakers in the draft for Nash and their pick? Sacramento for their pick and one of their bad deals? I don't see a great trade out there. If Tony wants to go, you take what you can get. But unless someone blows the team away with an offer. I'd rather them slowly fall from grace before reaching rock bottom.

[Chinook]

they tanked tbh.

When? They kept getting the 12th-18th picks.

[Baam]

Tanking doesn't work every year... Tanking last season sucked balls for instance... If Tim retires this summer then tanking becomes the best option imo with franchise bigs likely in the draft and plenty of assets to buy picks. On the other hand in 2015 the FA class is better and we won't have many assets to buys picks anyway so reloading could be smarter...

[Mel_13]

I'd rather them slowly fall from grace before reaching rock bottom.

A precipitous fall may be better for the franchise and the fan base.

That's just my perspective from several decades as a sports fan.

[ace3g]

Doesn't always prove anything but being 2 days before trade deadline, looking at box scores can sometimes hint a trade is near, when a players receive odd DNP-CD.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs need to fall off a giant cliff once Tim is done.. Get those fools in the FO to stop thinking everything they do is awesome.

[Raven]

When? They kept getting the 12th-18th picks.

that's why they are only a pretender.. they did tank though, but were too hasty.

[Chinook]

Tanking doesn't work every year... Tanking last season sucked balls for instance... If Tim retires this summer then tanking becomes the best option imo with franchise bigs likely in the draft and plenty of assets to buy picks. On the other hand in 2015 the FA class is better and we won't have many assets to buys picks anyway so reloading could be smarter...

Pretty much. This is about the best time to reload. It's not like they couldn't teade away whomever they sign if it doesn't work out.

[Libri]

Kings GM talking a lot about how committed they are to McLemore and only mentioned Thomas in passing. Who knows maybe Thomas is on the table.

[Mel_13]

Tanking doesn't work every year.

Tanking doesn't necessarily work even when a consensus 'generational' player, such as Oden is available. Enough smart draft picks over a few years, combined with effective cap management, can produce a winner even in a small market.

[TheGoldStandard]

Tanking doesn't necessarily work even when a consensus 'generational' player, such as Oden is available. Enough smart draft picks over a few years, combined with effective cap management, can produce a winner even in a small market.

Solid draft picks inside the top 15 usually helps, decent coach with a patient owner and a smart front office to get role players that fill in the gaps around your all stars. Need to be at least 2 deep in every position.

[Mel_13]

Solid draft picks inside the top 15 usually helps, decent coach with a patient owner and a smart front office to get role players that fill in the gaps around your all stars. Need to be at least 2 deep in every position.

So we agree.

[TheGoldStandard]

So we agree.

Yup..

[Raven]

Kings GM talking a lot about how committed they are to McLemore and only mentioned Thomas in passing. Who knows maybe Thomas is on the table.

would be a perfect example of a sell high situation.

[Chinook]

Tanking doesn't necessarily work even when a consensus 'generational' player, such as Oden is available. Enough smart draft picks over a few years, combined with effective cap management, can produce a winner even in a small market.

Yeah, that's how you do it. Presti put on a clinic on how to tank a few years ago. I'd like the team to follow that path ... when it's time. The Sonics were not nearly as good as the Spurs are now when they decided to blow it up. There was pretty much nothing to save. Meanwhile, the Spurs can make the playoffs and maybe even advance a round with an average PF replacing Duncan. They just have little hope of winning a title. I don't think Seattle would havw gone down the path they did had they earned the 27th pick instead of the 2nd.

Why is it so bad to be a decent playoff team for a few more years? Seems better than being Portland and drafting bust after injured bust. It took them ten years to even be as good as a Duncan-less Spurs would be. I just feel it's really hard to sell cold-hard tanking without at least a year of failed reloading. It's not like Love (for example) wouldn't have a ton of trade value in 2016.

[Mel_13]

Kings GM talking a lot about how committed they are to McLemore and only mentioned Thomas in passing. Who knows maybe Thomas is on the table.

McLemore is on the first year of a rookie contract while Thomas will be a restricted free agent this summer who figures to get a significant bump in salary.

[Mel_13]

Yeah, that's how you do it. Presti put on a clinic on how to tank a few years ago. I'd like the team to follow that path ... when it's time. The Sonics were not nearly as good as the Spurs are now when they decided to blow it up. There was pretty much nothing to save. Meanwhile, the Spurs can make the playoffs and maybe even advance a round with an average PF replacing Duncan. They just have little hope of winning a title. I don't think Seattle would havw gone down the path they did had they earned the 27th pick instead of the 2nd.

Why is it so bad to be a decent playoff team for a few more years? Seems better than being Portland and drafting bust after injured bust. It took them ten years to even be as good as a Duncan-less Spurs would be. I just feel it's really hard to sell cold-hard tanking without at least a year of failed reloading. It's not like Love (for example) wouldn't have a ton of trade value in 2016.

1. Perhaps not, but a team built around Ray Allen, Durant, and the best FA's they could afford, might well have competed for a playoff berth. That team was only two years removed from taking the 2005 Spurs to six tough games.

2. That's just my perspective. This fan base needs a clean break with the Duncan/Pop Spurs (once Tim retires, I'm not calling for them to blow it up before Tim is ready to go). A couple of really bad seasons, then a new team on the rise to generate a buzz again. To me that's better than some 45 win seasons where getting to the second round is the best you can hope for.

[cd021]

Kings GM talking a lot about how committed they are to McLemore and only mentioned Thomas in passing. Who knows maybe Thomas is on the table.

There was a report that they were peddling both to Boston for Rondo. Boston didn't bite.

[ElNono]

Doesn't always prove anything but being 2 days before trade deadline, looking at box scores can sometimes hint a trade is near, when a players receive odd DNP-CD.

Tony Parker - DNPCP :wow

:lol

[cjw]

A couple of really bad seasons, then a new team on the rise to generate a buzz again. To me that's better than some 45 win seasons where getting to the second round is the best you can hope for.

At least we're positioned to do that better than a lot of the other teams that are topping out these days who have completely mortgaged their futures by sending away half of their future first round picks with no other assets to deal (at the very least, TP, Kawhi, Tiago and Green would have positive value if they completely blew things up after this year).

Not too bad for having no top 20 picks of our own since Duncan was drafted.

[HemisfairArena]

Here's the problem with the idea of tanking pertaining to the Spurs. We don't have a fan base that will financially stick it out through the bad years. If we go 4...5...6 years without making the playoffs, it's gonna create a very bad situation for our Spurs staying in San Antonio. I'm showing my age here but we were very close to losing the Spurs to Kansas City and then David Robinson arrived and saved the franchise staying in San Antonio. We aren't a city that has a decent per family income and people will not spend their money here on average to watch a bad Spurs team. It's the reason the Alamodome sits empty today. We built it for the Spurs and even with them winning titles, we couldn't even fill it half way....that's why they had to build the SBC center. You got cities like Seattle salivating to get another team and can financially support them through the bad times.

[Mel_13]

Here's the problem with the idea of tanking pertaining to the Spurs. We don't have a fan base that will financially stick it out through the bad years. If we go 4...5...6 years without making the playoffs, it's gonna create a very bad situation for our Spurs staying in San Antonio.

If ownership and RC stay in place, then it's 2-3 years at most. I'll only worry about the long term future of the Spurs in San Antonio if the current ownership sells the team.

[ace3g]

Landry Fields will be in uniform tonight after returning from wrist surgery, while this might not have been the issue, it will be interesting to see how his shooting looks now.

Fields will be out for three weeks after he “underwent a minor surgical procedure yesterday to address the ulnar nerve release on his right wrist,” the team announced Wednesday (http://blog.raptors.com/press-releases/fields-has-surgery-on-right-wrist/).

Probably not enough time between now and trade deadline to show if he has his shot back.

[Chinook]

1. Perhaps not, but a team built around Ray Allen, Durant, and the best FA's they could afford, might well have competed for a playoff berth. That team was only two years removed from taking the 2005 Spurs to six tough games.

2. That's just my perspective. This fan base needs a clean break with the Duncan/Pop Spurs (once Tim retires, I'm not calling for them to blow it up before Tim is ready to go). A couple of really bad seasons, then a new team on the rise to generate a buzz again. To me that's better than some 45 win seasons where getting to the second round is the best you can hope for.

Fair enough. Certainly a reasobable position. So where does that put you on the question of taking on long-term salary this deadline?

[Mel_13]

Fair enough. Certainly a reasobable position. So where does that put you on the question of taking on long-term salary this deadline?

Depends on the player. I wouldn't be interested in a Gerald Wallace, for example. I'd be ok with a Jason Thompson.

[Libri]

McLemore is on the first year of a rookie contract while Thomas will be a restricted free agent this summer who figures to get a significant bump in salary.

If rumors are true, then the question is, why not pay to keep a young player who is getting better and is a twenty point scorer. Perhaps because they see him only as a scorer and would rather have a more traditional point guard. Maybe his height is an issue, under 6 feet, or they know that his trade value is sky high and don't want to waste this opportunity to cash in.

[TheGoldStandard]

If rumors are true, then the question is, why not pay to keep a young player who is getting better and is a twenty point scorer. Perhaps because they see him only as a scorer and would rather have a more traditional point guard. Maybe his height is an issue, under 6 feet, or they know that his trade value is sky high and don't want to waste this opportunity to cash in.

It's the Kings, they make shitty deals all the time.

[Mel_13]

If rumors are true, then the question is, why not pay to keep a young player who is getting better and is a twenty point scorer. Perhaps because they see him only as a scorer and would rather have a more traditional point guard. Maybe his height is an issue, under 6 feet, or they know that his trade value is sky high and don't want to waste this opportunity to cash in.

Take a look at their payroll for next season.

[Libri]

Take a look at their payroll for next season.

I guess the only way would be for Gay to opt out and sign for less next season but with a long term contract. That's not going to happen.

[lefty]

The Spurs will get a scrub with a weird name and cool hair

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Hearing Charlotte continues to pursue Bucks guard Gary Neal, who has been openly shopped by Milwaukee since January

[Chinook]

I guess the only way would be for Gay to opt out and sign for less next season but with a long term contract. That's not going to happen.

Or they move one of Thompson, Landry or Williams for expirings. Landry would be easiest to get but has a horrible deal. Williams is the best but will cost the most. Thompson is a happy medium.

[Chinook]

Depends on the player. I wouldn't be interested in a Gerald Wallace, for example. I'd be ok with a Jason Thompson.

No Wallace even with picks being included? Renting space is a big way Seattle/OKC got so many picks in the first place.

[Mel_13]

No Wallace even with picks being included? Renting space is a big way Seattle/OKC got so many picks in the first place.

I hadn't considered the possibility as I don't believe the Celts are that motivated to get rid of Wallace. I suppose there is an amount of sweetener that would make Wallace acceptable, but I really can't see Ainge adding that much.

[Mel_13]

Earlier, I tweeted that the Mavs are kicking the tires. I'm told that Dallas has been gauging interest in Shawn Marion and Shane Larkin.

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

[ace3g]

Gery Woelfel ‏@GeryWoelfel (https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel) 8m (https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/435961169028087808) Hearing Thunder has interest in Gary Neal, who would give them a nice perimeter shooter.

[Mel_13]

Gery Woelfel ‏@GeryWoelfel (https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel) 8m (https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/435961169028087808) Hearing Thunder has interest in Gary Neal, who would give them a nice perimeter shooter.

That would make Neal the luckiest man in the NBA.

[Robz4000]

Gery Woelfel ‏@GeryWoelfel (https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel) 8m (https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/435961169028087808) Hearing Thunder has interest in Gary Neal, who would give them a nice perimeter shooter.

Mentioned that possibility in the last Trade thread. Neal on the Thunder would be scary, especially if they could hide him on D like they do with Fisher.

[TheGoldStandard]

Pop's just going to play Weapon X Ayres 48 minutes in the playoffs..

[weeks]

LOL if Neal gets a ring with OKC after going to the finals with us.

[look_at_g_shred]

Would be damn nice to get Chandler from the Knicks.

[HemisfairArena]

OKC needs to shore up the paint...not much though. If they say...traded a late round 1st round pick for Pau Gasol....look out....they would just need to figure out salary matches They are gonna be that much better. Perkins is a joke and bring in Gasol. Westbrook/Durant/Ibaka/Gasol...they get even stronger.

[exstatic]

OKC needs to shore up the paint...not much though. If they say...traded a late round 1st round pick for Pau Gasol....look out....they would just need to figure out salary matches They are gonna be that much better. Perkins is a joke and bring in Gasol. Westbrook/Durant/Ibaka/Gasol...they get even stronger.

Lakers wouldn't be interested in Perkins for another year after this one. They'd let Gasol roll off before they did that. Doubt they're interested in taking out OKC's trash.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Sacramento's Isaiah Thomas has strained ligaments in wrist, MRI shows. Further issues could sideline him. yhoo.it/1bKbKjv (http://t.co/XTTtiFQIqb)

[cjw]

OKC needs to shore up the paint...not much though. If they say...traded a late round 1st round pick for Pau Gasol....look out....they would just need to figure out salary matches They are gonna be that much better. Perkins is a joke and bring in Gasol. Westbrook/Durant/Ibaka/Gasol...they get even stronger.

Problem is it'd have to be a late first plus Perkins, which LA doesn't bite on. Late first for just Gasol would suit LA but salaries don't match.

[HemisfairArena]

[QUOTE=cjw;7140144]Problem is it'd have to be a late first plus Perkins, which LA doesn't bite on. Late first for just Gasol would suit LA but salaries don't match.[/QUOTE

That's the catch 22 the Lakers are in. No one is gonna trade a 1st round pick in this draft but a team late picking with a need for someone in the paint. Lakers are stuck.

[FireMicoHalili]

No more trades clearly this year's Spurs are good enough to win it all. Second best record in the West despite injuries? Wow!!! 28 seconds away from winning it all? Wow!!! Duncan going past 30 mins carrying the brunt of the offense? Great job FO!!! Losses against top teams don't count because they're regular season games okay! Also everyone's a faggot according to robdiaz

[exstatic]

No more trades clearly this year's Spurs are good enough to win it all. Second best record in the West despite injuries? Wow!!! 28 seconds away from winning it all? Wow!!! Duncan going past 30 mins carrying the brunt of the offense? Great job FO!!! Losses against top teams don't count because they're regular season games okay! Also everyone's a faggot according to robdiaz

You can shut up now. We get it. You're not happy standing pat. You don't have to post this in every thread.

[FireMicoHalili]

You can shut up now. We get it. You're not happy standing pat. You don't have to post this in every thread.
You can just choose not to read you know that right

[exstatic]

You can just choose not to read you know that right

Hard to do when you're pretty much putting it in ALL of the speculation threads. Once is enough. Sarcasm loses it's bite when repeated.

[FireMicoHalili]

Hard to do when you're pretty much putting it in ALL of the speculation threads. Once is enough. Sarcasm loses it's bite when repeated.
Its**

again you can just choose not to read you know that right

[ace3g]

mentioned DNP-CD earlier, one that sticks out tonight: Quincy Miller of the Nuggets hasn't played yet (7 min mark 4th quarter).

[exstatic]

Its**

again you can just choose not to read you know that right

again, you know you can choose not to act 5 and post it everywhere, right?

[FireMicoHalili]

again, you know you can choose not to act 5 and post it everywhere, right?
Here come the exstatic ad hominem arguments! Again those are your eyes, you can choose to turn a blind eye. Wait do you own this forum? I'm sorry I didn't know I couldn't post where I wanted to. You don't see me bitching about your personal attacks against other posters until now so you should just mind your own business man.

[FireMicoHalili]

Apologies to Bruno and other mods for disrupting the flow and exchange of ideas in threads. Some posters are acting like they own the forum and that does not bode well for other people who want to air out their thoughts.

[pad300]

Would you do this if you were SAS? It'd be a gamble, but I would:

TO out : Landry Fields, 2014 1st round pick (currently 20th)
SAS out: Matt Bonner, Nando de Colo

[NickiRasgo]

Would you do this if you were SAS? It'd be a gamble, but I would:

TO out : Landry Fields, 2014 1st round pick (currently 20th)
SAS out: Matt Bonner, Nando de Colo

If you I were a GM from SAS and TOR offered that? Definitely yes! But if I'm a TOR GM and SAS offered that... okay. :lol

[Spursfanfromafar]

Would you do this if you were SAS? It'd be a gamble, but I would:

TO out : Landry Fields, 2014 1st round pick (currently 20th)
SAS out: Matt Bonner, Nando de Colo

It would be a bad gamble. Landry Fields has been a zero all season and the previous. A net liability. Bonner is far more useful and I think even De Colo alone would force Fields to a draw.

Picks are not as important as getting an important player to aid the core *this* season to contend.

[exstatic]

No Wallace even with picks being included? Renting space is a big way Seattle/OKC got so many picks in the first place.
:lol Wallace was the #2 contract on Simmon's list, right behind the corpse of Amare.

[cd021]

:lol Wallace was the #2 contract on Simmon's list, right behind the corpse of Amare.

getting a backup SF and an additional pick isnt a horrible deal. Even with his contract, it wouldn't hurt our books in any major way. Spurs could still resign Diaw and Mills + use the MLE, and the Bi exception. the Spurs could possibly ship out Ayers and Cojo in a deal and get Wallace and the Clippers pick in 2015.

[Leetonidas]

Apologies to Bruno and other mods for disrupting the flow and exchange of ideas in threads. Some posters are acting like they own the forum and that does not bode well for other people who want to air out their thoughts.

shut up faggot

[Leetonidas]

Would you do this if you were SAS? It'd be a gamble, but I would:

TO out : Landry Fields, 2014 1st round pick (currently 20th)
SAS out: Matt Bonner, Nando de Colo

Fields has gotten progressively worse after his rookie season and especially since he signed that ridiculous contract with Toronto. But he could be one of those guys who finds his game in a better circumstance. Honestly I'd make that trade just to get their first round pick

[Seventyniner]

getting a backup SF and an additional pick isnt a horrible deal. Even with his contract, it wouldn't hurt our books in any major way. Spurs could still resign Diaw and Mills + use the MLE, and the Bi exception. the Spurs could possibly ship out Ayers and Cojo in a deal and get Wallace and the Clippers pick in 2015.

Wallace is due to make $10.1M in 2015-2016; that's the major sticking point. The Spurs can afford to absorb a large contract that expires in 2015 because they won't likely have any cap space this summer anyway. Paying Wallace $10M in 2015 is a complete non-starter unless the Spurs get back assets, plural.

If the Spurs didn't have so many guards, something like Bradley, Wallace, and a 1st would be a desirable package. Not that Boston would consider it, though. They're more interested in acquiring assets than giving them up to dump salary.

[ace3g]

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
(https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN)Concerned about re-signing him, Cavs have been testing trade market for Luol Deng ahead of deadline, multiple sources told ESPN.

[elemento]

Crazy how crap teams never learn.

They trade assets for expiring players expecting to re-sign them, but in the end, they either lose the player (like the Bucks/JJ Redick case) or they massively overpay the player in order to keep him (Wallace).

At least the Cavs did not give up much for him.

[Spursfanfromafar]

The Luol Deng thing is a good development. Perhaps there is a team out there which wants to sell a/some long term contract to take Deng's expiring and then Deng requests a waive, to be picked up by a contender - preferably the Spurs.

Lets say for e.g., the Sixers trade Thad Young and Jason Richardson's contract to get Deng from the Cavs along with a 2015 first rounder and a second rounder later maybe. And the Sixers then give up Deng before the waiver deadline after Deng agrees to a slight salary cut and buyout? The possibilities are endless.

[jyra]

I just looked at the picks the Cavs send out in that Deng trade:

- protected 1st rounder from the Kings (Top 12 this year, Top 10 the next three years and after that becomes a 2nd rounder)
- 2nd rounders from the Blazers in 2015/16
- Chicago has the right to swap its 1st round pick next year with the Cavs if Cleveland's pick is between 15 and 30

All that probably just adds up to three 2nd round picks. So they really didn't give up very much at all. Too bad Deng's salary is that high.

[bklynspursfan]

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA) 2h (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/436140012158328832)
Multiple teams have told me they have the impression "anyone but Lawson" is available from Denver. Some contracts tough to move, obviously.

[Dverde]

What about trading Leonard/Bonner/De Colo for Faried/Chandler? I still don't think DEN would do this having Gallinari on the books for the next couple of years.

[Chinook]

:lol Wallace was the #2 contract on Simmon's list, right behind the corpse of Amare.

Mel and I were talking about the trade in the context of tanking. We all know it's a horrible contract. I asked him if taking on horrible contracts for picks was something he thought the team should do.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Clippers, Knicks discussing deal centered on Iman Shumpert and Darren Collison. yhoo.it/OafpN0 (http://t.co/MQHsktDjlG)

[Chinook]

Strange unless the Clips are planning on moving a wing for another PG.

[bklynspursfan]

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS) 20s (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/436194187336511489)
The Nets and Kings are on the verge of completing the Marcus Thornton for Jason Terry and Reggie Evans deal, sources confirm.

[monkeypunk]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Clippers, Knicks discussing deal centered on Iman Shumpert and Darren Collison. yhoo.it/OafpN0 (http://t.co/MQHsktDjlG)



Yikes, I do not want to see Shumpert on the Clips.

[ace3g]

Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN
(https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN)
Proposed deal of Darren Collison for Iman & Raymond Felton would also include NY getting Reggie Bullock from Clippers, according to a source

[loveforthegame]

Felton and Shumpert on the Clippers would be scary.

[bklynspursfan]

Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14 (https://twitter.com/DGreen_14) 3m (https://twitter.com/DGreen_14/status/436202299090677760)
Trade rumors are always very interesting

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)The Bobcats' pursuit of Evan Turner never got very far, source says. All Charlotte has going now is potential deal for Bucks' Gary Neal.

[bklynspursfan]

436203977446027264

[timtonymanu]

Felton and Shumpert on the Clippers would be scary.

I don't know. Felton is awful and fat. Shumpert could potentially be an upgrade over Dudley but hes nothing special.

[bklynspursfan]

436207312911745024

[monkeypunk]

I don't give two shits about any non-Spurs trades but I'd sell one of your children to keep Neal off the Thunder... You know, for basketball reasons...

:lol

[bklynspursfan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 1m (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/436209289699811328)
Lakers, Nets progressing on Jordan Hill deal, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Ownership showing willingness to take $17M hit.

[bklynspursfan]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo (https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo) 24s (https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/436209949274673152)
Active Kings might not be done. Keep an eye on Kings guard Jimmer Fredette, who had 24 points at the Knicks last week, sources said.

[Mel_13]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 1m (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/436209289699811328)
Lakers, Nets progressing on Jordan Hill deal, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Ownership showing willingness to take $17M hit.

:lol

Billy King has a great job. One of the richest guys in the world allows him to play fantasy basketball with real money and a real NBA team.

[look_at_g_shred]

Pick + Bonner + De Colo for Jason Thompson please!

[Mugen]

:lol Felton and Shump to the Clipps is a lateral move as long they still rely heavily on CP2ndRoundExit to not choke in the playoffs tbh.

[Chinook]

Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN
(https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN)
Proposed deal of Darren Collison for Iman & Raymond Felton would also include NY getting Reggie Bullock from Clippers, according to a source



What a horrible, horrible deal for the Clippers.

[bklynspursfan]

:lol

Billy King has a great job. One of the richest guys in the world allows him to play fantasy basketball with real money and a real NBA team.

Pretty much... Must be nice

[bklynspursfan]

Quixem Ramirez ‏@quixem (https://twitter.com/quixem) 2m (https://twitter.com/quixem/status/436214705657348096)
The Nets, with a potential bill at $210 million, are paying $5.4 million per win. The Spurs are paying around $1.07 million per win.

[bklynspursfan]

Shams Charania ‏@ShamsCharania (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 1m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/436215940259147776)
The Milwaukee Bucks have progressed with several teams on trade of Gary Neal but await someone to pull trigger, league source tells RealGM.

[look_at_g_shred]

Please not the thunder ^^^

[cd021]

Wallace is due to make $10.1M in 2015-2016; that's the major sticking point. The Spurs can afford to absorb a large contract that expires in 2015 because they won't likely have any cap space this summer anyway. Paying Wallace $10M in 2015 is a complete non-starter unless the Spurs get back assets, plural.

If the Spurs didn't have so many guards, something like Bradley, Wallace, and a 1st would be a desirable package. Not that Boston would consider it, though. They're more interested in acquiring assets than giving them up to dump salary.

Even with Wallace's albatross deal in 15-16 the Spurs would have $18.5 million committed to 4 players (assuming Leonard, Splitter and Joseph each are on the team)

The Spurs would still have at least $40 million in cap. Thats not including the cap rising up from $60 million next season.

As i said earlier a good deal would be including Ayers and Joseph. Boston would still save $6 million next season, Spurs would off set $4 million and open another roster spot next season. Boston wants to shed long term salary that would help. They are apparently looking to shed long term salary

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lpyoj3f
Bonner
Ayers
Joseph

For
Wallace
Clippers 2015 draft pick


"One certainty: This season, the league has more than its usual share of rebuilding squads — such as the Celtics — that are hunting for assets to help get them back on their feet as fast as possible, which means teams will deal players for draft picks or deal players just to shed salary"

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/02/18/danny-ainge-mulling-what-with-celtics-assets-trade-deadline-approaches/DP9joIA61FrpoISQ5eYpNL/story.html

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wallace fucking blows this year. If we get him I'll be extremely unhappy.

[024]

Hate to say it but Mills' emergence makes him the Spurs' greatest trade chip. Too bad the Spurs don't have any large expiring contracts to bundle with Mills.

[cd021]

Fields has gotten progressively worse after his rookie season and especially since he signed that ridiculous contract with Toronto. But he could be one of those guys who finds his game in a better circumstance. Honestly I'd make that trade just to get their first round pick

Its pretty funny. They signed him to a bad deal in RFA (sort of like the Lin situation) to try and keep Nash from signing with the Knicks. Toronto wanted Nash, they couldn't land him. Now Nash has fallen apart in L.A. along with the team itself.

the Knicks can't find any consistency at PG and are probably going to miss the playoffs and the Raptors have the 3 best record in the leastern conference with Lowry as probably the best PG in the east.

As for Fields, he can't shoot but I do like his ball handling. Granted, i haven't watched him play since the Knicks days.

[cd021]

Wallace fucking blows this year. If we get him I'll be extremely unhappy.

BAAM brought up the idea of trading for him to fill our small forward need (he can't shoot anymore but for up to 15 mpg a game, we could do worse). Boston should look to unload long term deals (players like Green, and Bass have been frequently mentioned as well). There is a possibility that the Spurs could take on his deal and acquire a 1st rounder for their trouble.

That would be two 1st rounders after next season and more than $40 million in cap to build around Tiago and Leonard. It wouldn't affect our roster flexiblity very much next season, Spurs could still resign Mills and Diaw. Sign our 1st round pick and use the MLE & (I think, the bi-annual exception, as well)

[r0drig0lac]

Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14 (https://twitter.com/DGreen_14) 3m (https://twitter.com/DGreen_14/status/436202299090677760)
Trade rumors are always very interesting:lol

[loveforthegame]

I can't believe that nut puncher is on the Kings now. :bang

[look_at_g_shred]

I can't believe that nut puncher is on the Kings now. :bang
Who?

[bklynspursfan]

Who?

Jason Terry

[Mugen]

If the Spurs trade my man Danny Green, I'm quittin' on them faster than T Park on a juice cleanse tbh.

[Mel_13]

I can't believe that nut puncher is on the Kings now. :bang

You should be happy. He got traded to basketball purgatory.

[loveforthegame]

Who?

Jason Terry punched Finley in the nuts that one year. Hated him before that but have loathed him since.

The Kings are a train wreck right now but I still root for them. It sucks knowing he's on the team now.

[TheyCallMePro]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Y! Sources: Spurs, Kings discussing deal centered on G Jimmer Fredette in return for 1st rd draft pick, Nando De Colo. yhoo.it/OafpN0

[Mugen]

:wow first rounder for Jimmy, hell nahhhhhhh tbh

[SpursDynasty21]

Edit: Oops.

[Mel_13]

:wow first rounder for Jimmy, hell nahhhhhhh tbh

sup Mugen

btw, you got trolled.

[loveforthegame]

Damn. Never mind.

[blkroadrunners]

Screw that trade..

nvm

[timtonymanu]

That's a fake.

[bklynspursfan]

Yea that's totally not true... (DeColo/Jimmer)

[Dverde]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Y! Sources: Spurs, Kings discussing deal centered on G Jimmer Fredette in return for 1st rd draft pick, Nando De Colo. yhoo.it/OafpN0

They can't be that dumb to give a 1st round pick for Jimmer. Maybe if they took Tiago with De Colo.

[timtonymanu]

ace3g is the Woj of this site. I don't believe anything until he confirms.

[Mugen]

sup Mugen

btw, you got trolled.

phew, thanks Mel. Looked at Wojo's twitter and realized I got got.

Was this close to starting my Church of Jimmer Christ of Latter Day Saints thread tbh.

[Mel_13]

phew, thanks Mel. Looked at Wojo's twitter and realized I got got.

Was this close to starting my Church of Jimmer Christ of Latter Day Saints thread tbh.

:lol

[ElNono]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Y! Sources: Spurs, Kings discussing deal centered on G Jimmer Fredette in return for 1st rd draft pick, Nando De Colo. yhoo.it/OafpN0



:lol I just re-posted this on the NBA Forum... tripped me too... after Ayres, I'm believing anything...

[ElNono]

phew, thanks Mel. Looked at Wojo's twitter and realized I got got.

Was this close to starting my Church of Jimmer Christ of Latter Day Saints thread tbh.

I had the Jimmer Jam thread all sewn up and ready to go... :depressed

[timtonymanu]

Leonard and Fredette on the same team would have been interesting.

[Mugen]

I had the Jimmer Jam thread all sewn up and ready to go... :depressed

Nando/Bonner for Jimmer/Thompson tbh :stirpot:

[ElNono]

Nando/Bonner for Jimmer/Thompson tbh :stirpot:

If it works salary-wise, I'm all for it, tbh...

[Mel_13]

Nando/Bonner for Jimmer/Thompson tbh :stirpot:

They've got way too many PFs and they've been unloading players from the previous regime. Could happen.

[Mugen]

If it works salary-wise, I'm all for it, tbh...


They've got way too many PFs and they've been unloading players from the previous regime. Could happen.

Don't have much interest in Jimmer with Patty already on the team but Thompson is a nice big on a decent contract. Adjust the move to have them throw in Acy and I'd def be in favor. Wouldn't give up a first rounder tho.

[TMT®]

A 1st round pick AND Nando for Jimmer who will receive zero playing time?
Why exactly would we consider this?

[r0drig0lac]

[QUOTE = timtonymanu; 7142351]. Leonard e Fredette na mesma equipe teria sido interessante [/ QUOTE]
http://i48.tinypic.com/34zncdz.gif

[ElNono]

Don't have much interest in Jimmer with Patty already on the team but Thompson is a nice big on a decent contract. Adjust the move to have them throw in Acy and I'd def be in favor. Wouldn't give up a first rounder tho.

Ayres makes it work, tbh.. (jk) :lol

[look_at_g_shred]

I'm telling you Nando and First for Thompson. Do it RC!

[Mugen]

Ayres and Bonner going out in the same deal would be as good as No. 5 tbh :lol

[ElNono]

Ayres and Bonner going out in the same deal would be as good as No. 5 tbh :lol

Christmas in February :lol

[TMT®]

The Nando for Jimmer rumor isn't even on Woj's twitter. Did he remove it or was it never there?

[ElNono]

The Nando for Jimmer rumor isn't even on Woj's twitter. Did he remove it or was it never there?

latter

[TMT®]

Damn, I was getting pumped that the Spurs were engaged in trade rumors at all... :lol

[jag]

Nando for Jimmer

Break out the champagne. We goin to da ship