Granger "pissed" when learned he had been traded...could sign with Spurs/Heat?

[SpursFan86]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232087/Granger-Pissed-When-Told-Of-Trade-Could-Sign-With-Heat-Or-Spurs

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[DapDaGenius]

Didn't the Heat just open a roster spot with that Roger Mason Jr trade?

[Leetonidas]

We can all hope. Most likely not gonna happen. I can see him going to Memphis

[Beaverfuzz]

Has Miami written all over him.

[Andthentherewas21]

Admittedly the injuries have taken their toll on this guy and he definitely isn't the player he was. That being said, if he can get back into shape and produce at 80% of what he once did he would be a good Kawhi backup and would help the Spurs address some of the small ball issues they could potentially face in the playoffs.

Also he went to New Mexico for college and was playing in Indiana, so at least San Antonio can't look like too bad a destination, can it?

[monkeypunk]

Has Miami written all over him.

Every released player or free agent has Miami written all over them. It's the safest bet by a long shot, if the Pacers aren't in play.

That said, I expect he goes to OKC if not the Miami coattails...

[hommeaetage]

When media says player X is interested in the Spurs, it's usually code word for "I wanna get as much money as possible, so I'm just going to name the Spurs to increase my value"

That being said, he'd be a great back up 3.

[Leetonidas]

I dunno, after his tough guy antics against the Heat and LeBron pretty much calling him out during that series because of it leads me to believe he probably won't end up in Miami, but who knows. Winning cures all

[Prime Time]

I don't know why these F/A's even make it sound like there are multiple candidates (For some reason, Spurs are always one of them). Granger may as well have been wearing a Heat shirt on the plane ride to Philly.

[Dex]

I dunno, after his tough guy antics against the Heat and LeBron pretty much calling him out during that series because of it leads me to believe he probably won't end up in Miami, but who knows. Winning cures all

That's our only chance in getting him, really.

[FromWayDowntown]

If Granger and Caron Butler are both bought out, surely both won't be going to Miami.

[SpursFan86]

Out of curiosity, do y'all think we would've made that De Colo for Daye trade if we were planning on going after a backup SF like Butler or Granger?

[dallasmaverickslose]

If Granger and Caron Butler are both bought out, surely both won't be going to Miami.

It's Miami though. Players these days seem to do whatever it takes so that they can have a chance to coattail with Miami.

I'd bet money Granger ends up in Miami if he's bought out, and there's a solid chance you could see butler going there as well.

[Seventyniner]

Can the Spurs offer more money than the minimum?

[xellos88330]

This could be very interesting. Can Granger play the 2?

[dallasmaverickslose]

Out of curiosity, do y'all think we would've made that De Colo for Daye trade if we were planning on going after a backup SF like Butler or Granger?

You can't count on it though... Plus, like someone else on this forum said, it appears more like we traded De Colo more as a service to him than it was to acquire a SF.

[dallasmaverickslose]

This could be very interesting. Can Granger play the 2?

Yes. He has also played the small ball 4 for Indy in the past.

[Dverde]

Out of curiosity, do y'all think we would've made that De Colo for Daye trade if we were planning on going after a backup SF like Butler or Granger? We owed Toronto one for taking Rasho's contract off our hands.

[lefty]

So Miami it is

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

If we could get Granger that would be HUGE. He hasn't played great this year, but it definitely would boost our second unit. We probably wouldn't need to give Ayres minutes at all.

Diaw/Granger/Belinelli/Ginobili/Mills :wow

[dallasmaverickslose]

If we could get Granger that would be HUGE. He hasn't played great this year, but it definitely would boost our second unit. We probably wouldn't need to give Ayres minutes at all.

Diaw/Granger/Belinelli/Ginobili/Mills :wow

Now that's what I call smallball.

[Brazil]

:lol another 20 pages thread coming

[SpursFan86]

Stein commenting on the issue:

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[Seventyniner]

Now that's what I call smallball.

It also assumes that Splitter starts. If Diaw starts next to Duncan, it becomes a bench lineup of Splitter/Granger/Beli/Manu/Mills, which doesn't look too shabby on paper.

Then again, in the playoffs it is extremely rare to have 5 bench players on the floor at the same time. A roster doesn't have just two lineup possibilities (5 starters, 5 bench players), it has hundreds.

[Dverde]

OKC is going to sign Jason Terry just to annoy Spursfan. I could see them going after Granger, too.

[Boomersgold]

Isn't this guy shooting 30 something % this season? Why the hell would we want that? Has Gary Neal written all over him (if Gary Neal were 6'8" forward).

[DisAsTerBot]

so if this happens will all the people who were angry at the front office for "doing nothing" during the deadline change their tune?

[Aremid]

so if this happens will all the people who were angry at the front office for "doing nothing" during the deadline change their tune?


Absolutely. This kind of move can launch u into contender status

[Sean Cagney]

Has Miami written all over him.

^^^^ He will go there to try and beat his former team if he is pissed, this only makes sense. Welcome to Miami..

[xtremesteven33]

Gotta believe the Spurs are doing the best they can to land Granger.

[Aremid]

Gotta believe the Spurs are doing the best they can to land Granger.

I hope we are recruiting him as we speak. Duncan needs to take d rob's example and personally go visit the guy and convince him to come here

[timtonymanu]

I still prefer Big Baby or Clark.

Granger wouldn't be a bad option but the Spurs should pursue the other two as well cause I feel like Granger won't come here.

[Joyrider]

I hope we are recruiting him as we speak. Duncan needs to take d rob's example and personally go visit the guy and convince him to come here

Lmao at comparing recruiting Tim fucking Duncan and Danny Granger.

[look_at_g_shred]

Good thing is, teams will be recruiting hard for both Davis and Granger that maybe it won't be too hard to pry Clark.

[DJR210]

Has Miami written all over him.

It's a fucking given.

[Aremid]

Lmao at comparing recruiting Tim fucking Duncan and Danny Granger.
Both are integral pieces to a championship puzzle

[r0drig0lac]

[QUOTE = SpursFan86; 7149434]? Out of curiosity, do you think they would have done that De Colo Daye for trade if we were thinking about going after a backup SF or as Butler Granger [/ QUOTE] yes, because of his length and athleticism

[Beaverfuzz]

Out of curiosity, do y'all think we would've made that De Colo for Daye trade if we were planning on going after a backup SF like Butler or Granger?


Yes, the ratio of guards to forwards is now much more equal.

[freetiago]

No one could predict that Granger would be traded and bought out
people thought he could be traded but given how high Indiana is on chemistry it would seem unlikely that he would be dealt
if he was dealt no one thought it would be too a bottom feeder where he would be bought out

De Colo for Daye is one of the worst trades ever
both teams get a player who they will never play tbh..

[Mel_13]

I hope we are recruiting him as we speak. Duncan needs to take d rob's example and personally go visit the guy and convince him to come here

Tampering is not a good thing.

[bklynspursfan]

You think Boylen might come in handy here? Or Ayres for that matter? Depending on the relationship he had w/those guys

maybe even Brett Brown can vouch for us lol

[xtremesteven33]

Pure speculation of course

[bklynspursfan]

Keith Pompey ‏@PompeyOnSixers (https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers)
Danny Granger didn't look too happy walking into the Sixers practice facility. Going from title contender to a rebuilding squad does that.

[kjhip1]

Keith Pompey ‏@PompeyOnSixers (https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers)
Danny Granger didn't look too happy walking into the Sixers practice facility. Going from title contender to a rebuilding squad does that.

Either that or he really needed to use the restroom. Next we'll here he was sitting in the corner during team meeting.

[benefactor]

Stein commenting on the issue:

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That S&T tweet doesn't make much sense. I don't see any team risking any sort of substantial cash on Granger.

[timtonymanu]

You think Boylen might come in handy here? Or Ayres for that matter? Depending on the relationship he had w/those guys

maybe even Brett Brown can vouch for us lol

Shit. Maybe Vaughn can vouch for us with Davis.

[bklynspursfan]

Shit. Maybe Vaughn can vouch for us with Davis.

Idk, I think he liked playing for Doc so it's a long shot. + this just came out. It would be nice though...

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[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I forgot about Boylen being the assistant for Indy... We have a legit shot on this

[HarlemHeat37]

It's kind of funny that a scrub like Granger is complaining about being traded, tbh:lol..

He's one of the worst rotation players in the league, he needs to accept reality..

[Mel_13]

It's kind of funny that a scrub like Granger is complaining about being traded, tbh:lol..

He's one of the worst rotation players in the league, he needs to accept reality..

Athletes are the last to accept that sort of reality (see Jackson, Stephen). In Granger's mind, he's still Indy's franchise player.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It's kind of funny that a scrub like Granger is complaining about being traded, tbh:lol..

He's one of the worst rotation players in the league, he needs to accept reality..

Everyone thought Duncan was done in 11', Ginobili last year, etc.

It's not like Granger can't make a comeback too.. to me it seems more like rust/finding his game/new role, etc. than being bad itself. I think he's a huge pick-up for any team.. Idk how anyone can twist that.

[loveforthegame]

I'm on the fence about it. No telling what he has left in the tank. Motivation can be a huge thing even with a bum body.

I can see the Spurs going after him before Davis and Clark.

[kjhip1]

Athletes are the last to accept that sort of reality (see Jackson, Stephen). In Granger's mind, he's still Indy's franchise player.

I think it's more of a case that he feels like there was a loyalty issue. Pacers treated it like business when he prolly felt like he was part of the family w/ what he's been through with the team

[JR3]

I would like to have him. I would also like to have Glen Davis or Jamison. There are some real options out there for us to improve our depth, and I hope we can pull one of them off.

[DPG21920]

Well, despite Granger not being very good, he's about as good as you could hope for. At least he doesn't have a coward mentality on top of being unable to perform. One anecdotal edge Spurs might have is that SA & IND are somewhat similar franchises (mindset / market..). On top of that I'm sure the great relationship Tim has with Hibbert surely is noticed by guys on Indy & I'm sure Hill spoke highly of them. If there is a buyout and mutual legit interest I'm sure SA has a good shot.

[Mel_13]

I think it's more of a case that he feels like there was a loyalty issue. Pacers treated it like business when he prolly felt like he was part of the family w/ what he's been through with the team

Oh, I agree. That's was wrapped up in "franchise player". I'm sure he felt that he should have been allowed to choose how he would leave the Pacers.

[ElNono]

:lol another 20 pages thread coming

Please refrain from further posts like this in this thread. Thanks.

[Mel_13]

Well, despite Granger not being very good, he's about as good as you could hope for. At least he doesn't have a coward mentality on top of being unable to perform. One anecdotal edge Spurs might have is that SA & IND are somewhat similar franchises (mindset / market..). On top of that I'm sure the great relationship Tim has with Hibbert surely is noticed by guys on Indy & I'm sure Hill spoke highly of them. If there is a buyout and mutual legit interest I'm sure SA has a good shot.

I haven't been around much lately. Who was that directed at?

[ElNono]

Athletes are the last to accept that sort of reality (see Jackson, Stephen). In Granger's mind, he's still Indy's franchise player.

I think it's a similar case to Rudy Gay... though Gay did use that as fuel to play better for about 10 or so games in Sacramento... sometimes having a player with something to prove works out for the best...

[313]

He isn't in his prime anymore but would be a good addition nonetheless

[Mel_13]

I think it's a similar case to Rudy Gay... though Gay did use that as fuel to play better for about 10 or so games in Sacramento... sometimes having a player with something to prove works out for the best...

Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.

[DPG21920]

I haven't been around much lately. Who was that directed at?

No one in particular tbh..I'm just a firm believer in having role players that have a certain mindset and that have at least shown when healthy they were gamers (TMac, Granger, Jax). Even if they are somewhat limited I believe in that mindset vs a guy like Bonner who currently struggles not only physically, but mentally (passes up shots, ect..)

[DPG21920]

Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.

I agree overall but I also think team need played a role. I have no doubt it was mostly because they think Turner>Granger in general but I also think they really needed a ball handler on the bench and even when healthy Granger isn't that.

[kjhip1]

Not sure how to feel about granger, he's been pretty lousy the last month. I just think in our system maybe he could stretch the floor or if anything spell Kleonard for 10-15 min. I'd prefer a big though.

[313]

Please refrain from further posts like this in this thread. Thanks.
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[ElNono]

:lolNot a Moderator

Just saving Bruno some time, tbh :lol

[ElNono]

Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.

I don't know about that. I think Indy just needed a different type of player. Granger is a gamble no matter what, but if this trade brings him back down to earth and motivates him to get back to working hard, then he could be solid. Tough call, tbh.

[Mel_13]

No one in particular tbh..I'm just a firm believer in having role players that have a certain mindset and that have at least shown when healthy they were gamers (TMac, Granger, Jax). Even if they are somewhat limited I believe in that mindset vs a guy like Bonner who currently struggles not only physically, but mentally (passes up shots, ect..)


I agree overall but I also think team need played a role. I have no doubt it was mostly because they think Turner>Granger in general but I also think they really needed a ball handler on the bench and even when healthy Granger isn't that.

Got it on both.

[Mel_13]

For the record, I have no problem with signing Granger. I just have very limited expectations of what he can add. He's certainly an improvement of the vacant space that currently exists on the roster.

[ace3g]

Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
(https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner)
Danny Granger just made a surprise appearance inside the #Pacers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Pacers) practice facility. Players stopped and hugged him. "I love you, bro." - PG


Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
(https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner)
Granger stopped to hug all players, as well as front office personnel: Donnie Walsh, Kevin Pritchard and scouts in attendance.


Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
(https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner)
Before Granger's surprise, it was quite a serious & dour mood here. Hibbert announced he was answering 2 questions re: trade & carried on

[kjhip1]

I don't get players needing motivation to play a sport they love while being paid millions. But then again granger hopefully could be useful. Whatever the case I think the buyout was the best chance for the spurs to make a move all along. Should be interesting the next couple of days. I will say regarding our team now, I've been impressed with cjoseph's defense. He looked pretty below avg the whole year. I have more confidence from this team now then from 1-2 months ago. They just need to get healthy and have tp regain his form from last year, if possible

[Mugen]

Granger should have never looked up to Bird as a father figure, cuz we all know how Larry Legend treats his kids tbh

[Seventyniner]

Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.

Maybe there's more to it? If the Pacers think they can lock up Turner cheaper than Stephenson they might be able to stay under the tax and let Lance go. This depends on whether the Pacers are willing to pay the tax but my guess is no.

[DPG21920]

For the record, I have no problem with signing Granger. I just have very limited expectations of what he can add. He's certainly an improvement of the vacant space that currently exists on the roster.

Agreed. I would be way more excited about Clark tbh...He has some upside left. But either Clark or Granger would be better than Daye so I would be happy.

[DPG21920]

Maybe there's more to it? If the Pacers think they can lock up Turner cheaper than Stephenson they might be able to stay under the tax and let Lance go. This depends on whether the Pacers are willing to pay the tax but my guess is no.

Perhaps, but that is something INDY didn't have to worry about until next year. Teams that are really close to being a champion probably don't lessen their odds for problems they can address in the off season. Odds are, despite Lance's deal next year, if they though Danny would help them win this year, they would have kept him.

[kjhip1]

Well there going to be a good list of options for this buyout. One would think the Spurs get someone.

[vy65]

Keith Pompey ‏@PompeyOnSixers
Danny Granger didn't look too happy walking into the Sixers practice facility. Going from title contender to a rebuilding squad does that.

Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
Danny Granger just made a surprise appearance inside the #Pacers practice facility. Players stopped and hugged him. "I love you, bro." - PG

huh?

[Seventyniner]

Perhaps, but that is something INDY didn't have to worry about until next year. Teams that are really close to being a champion probably don't lessen their odds for problems they can address in the off season. Odds are, despite Lance's deal next year, if they though Danny would help them win this year, they would have kept him.

True, the Pacers are all in for this year. Turner is a better option for the future as long as he doesn't demand a huge salary. The Pacers must not think he's any dropoff from Granger. It's risky to disrupt chemistry like that, though. Not the kind of move the Spurs would have made imo.

[RD2191]

I called it, tbh. I knew Granger would be pissed.

[Mugen]

Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
(https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner)
Danny Granger just made a surprise appearance inside the #Pacers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Pacers) practice facility. Players stopped and hugged him. "I love you, bro." - PG


Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
(https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner)
Granger stopped to hug all players, as well as front office personnel: Donnie Walsh, Kevin Pritchard and scouts in attendance.


Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
(https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner)
Before Granger's surprise, it was quite a serious & dour mood here. Hibbert announced he was answering 2 questions re: trade & carried on










Probably reading too much into it, but that doesn't sound like the actions of a guy that's going to sign with the Heat in a couple of days tbh.

[DPG21920]

I just tweeted Roy Hibbert telling him to tell Granger not to join the Heat, but SA. If it happens, you can thank me. If not, you can blame Hibbert.

[SpurPadre]

That's our only chance in getting him, really.

Well, who knows maybe Granger has a good relationship with Boylen? This is Boylen's chance to redeem himself and pitch Granger to come to the team.

[RD2191]

I just tweeted Roy Hibbert telling him to tell Granger not to join the Heat, but SA. If it happens, you can thank me. If not, you can blame Hibbert.
:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

I called it, tbh. I knew Granger would be pissed.
lol they did him dirty doe!

[look_at_g_shred]

I feel the word "scrub" is used too freely around these parts. I see some feel Granger is a "scrub" lol ST gotta love it!

[Spur|n|Austin]

Lmao at comparing recruiting Tim fucking Duncan and Danny Granger.

He wasn't comparing players skills, he was comparing the act of going and visiting a prospect new hire..

[Spur|n|Austin]

I just tweeted Roy Hibbert telling him to tell Granger not to join the Heat, but SA. If it happens, you can thank me. If not, you can blame Hibbert.

:lol

[RD2191]

lol they did him dirty doe!
dey really did

[TJastal]

ore to it? If the Pacers think they can lock up Turner cheaper than Stephenson they might be able to stay under the tax and let Lance go. This depends on whether the Pacers are willing to pay the tax but my guess is no.

Bingo. Stephenson doesn't really fit the aspirations of a championship team. He's a the latest selfish hot dogging "looks at me i can score and dribble between my legs for no reason". Since he's been inserted into their starting lineup he's managed to turn even Pauk George into a shoot first chucker. He's the main reason the pacer offense is so dysfunctional this year. I feel sorry for the team that is going to offer this guy a huge contract. Then again, I don't.

[Chomag]

I honestly don't know why but I have a feeling he would do very well here.

Besidedes He couldnt be any worse then Aryers

[monkeypunk]

He may not get bought out at all so this may be a pointless discussion. Doesn't sound like that was the sixers plan to begin with...

[look_at_g_shred]

He needs to realize he's going to have the same type of treatment he had in indy in OKC/MIA. Meaning all of those teams have superstars that won't stop anything from getting theirs before his. Especially Durant and LeBron who are "fighting" for the MVP at the moment.

[Libri]

For the record, I have no problem with signing Granger. I just have very limited expectations of what he can add. He's certainly an improvement of the vacant space that currently exists on the roster.

If, hypothetically, he signs with the Spurs, the FO would have made it clear that he would just be role player playing with the second unit, right?

[look_at_g_shred]

He may not get bought out at all so this may be a pointless discussion. Doesn't sound like that was the sixers plan to begin with...
They will if he expresses how much he doesn't want to be their, and let's face it, who really does? You saw how depressed Turner looked recently and for that matter the whole team. I'm sure it will be mutual.

[look_at_g_shred]

If, hypothetically, he signs with the Spurs, the FO would have made it clear that he would just be role player playing with the second unit, right?
Yeah. They'll probably pitch the "we already have our starting SF that we are going with" "will you feel comfortable coming off the bench and playing with the second unit?"

[TJastal]

I honestly don't know why but I have a feeling he would do very well here.

Besidedes He couldnt be any worse then Aryers

I'd be willing to take a flyer on Granger. If he could get back to his old form he could really help the spurs offensively and maybe even make Leonard expendable.

[Mel_13]

If, hypothetically, he signs with the Spurs, the FO would have made it clear that he would just be role player playing with the second unit, right?

I'm sure that Granger knows that he'll be a reserve with any contender he signs with. If he wants maximum minutes going into free agency, he can get that in Philly.

[DPG21920]

If, hypothetically, he signs with the Spurs, the FO would have made it clear that he would just be role player playing with the second unit, right?

I would imagine, yes. I think Grangers issue is not just that he was traded, but traded from legit contender to worst team in the NBA. His role was limited on INDY - I can't imagine him being upset at that on another contender.

[SpurPadre]

I was thinking maybe Boylen can lure Granger to come here but then again, I wonder if he even remembers Granger?

[look_at_g_shred]

I'd be willing to take a flyer on Granger. If he could get back to his old form he could really help the spurs offensively and maybe even make Leonard expendable.
More like light a fire under his ass

[TJastal]

They will if he expresses how much he doesn't want to be their, and let's face it, who really does? You saw how depressed Turner looked recently and for that matter the whole team. I'm sure it will be mutual.

If you had to play alongside scrubs like James Anderson you'd probably be depressed too.

[look_at_g_shred]

I was thinking maybe Boylen can lure Granger to come here but then again, I wonder if he even remembers Granger.
You wonder if Granger remembers Boylen. That sounds better.

[look_at_g_shred]

If you had to play alongside scrubs like James Anderson you'd probably be depressed too.
Sure.

[Mel_13]

I was thinking maybe Boylen can lure Granger to come here but then again, I wonder if he even remembers Granger?

:lol

[SpurPadre]

You wonder if Granger remembers Boylen. That sounds better.

Sure, it works both ways, lol.

[MeloHype]

Granger has been ass all season

[Spur|n|Austin]

Granger has been ass all season

so has our non existent backup to Kawhi.

[RD2191]

Granger has been ass all season
He's played like 29 games after playing only 5 the season before. I doubt he is done. He's only 30 which isn't too young or old. I'm sure he could turn it around on the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

Well, Granger has been ass this year, no way to argue otherwise. But to me, it's better than playing someone in Daye who's been ass his entire career :lol

[MeloHype]

so has our non existent backup to Kawhi.Manu has played well at the back up sf


He's played like 29 games after playing only 5 the season before. I doubt he is done. He's only 30 which isn't too young or old. I'm sure he could turn it around on the Spurs.
Didn't say he was done, just saying he's been ass, if we sign him, better hope he doesn't get a lot of meaningful minutes

[Mel_13]

Well, Granger has been ass this year, no way to argue otherwise. But to me, it's better than playing someone in Daye who's been ass his entire career :lol

Funny, but not the actual choice facing the Spurs. Daye has zero chance of being in the playoff rotation. If they get Granger, his minutes come somewhere from the 4 players in the current wing rotation.

[Hoops Czar]

I hope he doesn't get bought out. I'd hate to see OKC or Miami get more depth off the bench. The Spurs can't beat either team as it is.

[Hoops Czar]

Granger has been ass all season

So hs Parker but we're suppose to ignore facts.

[DPG21920]

Funny, but not the actual choice facing the Spurs. Daye has zero chance of being in the playoff rotation. If they get Granger, his minutes come somewhere from the 4 players in the current wing rotation.

True - but there is still a lot of regular season left too and the need for a back up SF is key (especially if there are more injuries). But in the event spurs play Kawhi at PF, I still like keeping DG at SG which leaves Manu/Beli/Boris for the SF. Just good to have another option.

[DesignatedT]

So hs Parker but we're suppose to ignore facts.

Granger didn't light up the NBA playoffs and finals 6 months ago and lead his country to a championship directly after.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, I wouldn't oppose a signing of Granger, I'd be cool with it, I just stated that he's terrible now because I see a lot of people discussing him like he's still an All-Star caliber player:lol..

I also question the fit, since Granger has been known as a ball hog and chucker, even in his prime..

To be fair, the other players I want(Clark, World Peace) are also coming off poor seasons and have serious question marks, tbh..I'd prefer Clark because he's 26 and athletic, and I'd take World Peace because he's a proven winner that adds toughness/intimidation..

[Hoops Czar]

Granger didn't light up the NBA playoffs and finals 6 months ago and lead his country to gold directly after.

Didn't he play 5 games last year? He's been dealing with injuries issues the last two seasons. That doesn't men he's not worth a pickup. A roster with Bonner, Baynes Daye, Ayres, Cojo and you wanna talk about Granger being ass?

[MeloHype]

So hs Parker but we're suppose to ignore facts.
Parker: 17ppg on 50% & 6 apg
Granger: 8ppg on 35% 1 apg

[Mel_13]

True - but there is still a lot of regular season left too and the need for a back up SF is key (especially if there are more injuries). But in the event spurs play Kawhi at PF, I still like keeping DG at SG which leaves Manu/Beli/Boris for the SF. Just good to have another option.

Options are good.

[poop]

These things never end well for the spurs.he will either end up somehow with miami or okc, or something stupid and flashy like new york or brooklyn or something LOL

[TJastal]

Funny, but not the actual choice facing the Spurs. Daye has zero chance of being in the playoff rotation. If they get Granger, his minutes come somewhere from the 4 players in the current wing rotation.

I see granger's value in being able to score in the 1st unit tbh (something that has been a big problem so far this year). His minutes would come from Leonard mainly. I see it as a win/win ifthe spurs sign Granger. If he regains his old form he gives the spurs a bonafide 20+ game scorer who can also space the floor (something Leonard is not currently doing). Green has shown the ability to be the defensive "stopper" and can handle the opponents best player.

[Mel_13]

I see granger's value in being able to score in the 1st unit tbh (something that has been a big problem so far this year). His minutes would come from Leonard mainly. I see it as a win/win ifthe spurs sign Granger. If he regains his old form he gives the spurs a bonafide 20+ game scorer who can also space the floor (something Leonard is not currently doing). Green has shown the ability to be the defensive "stopper" and can handle the opponents best player.

I see zero chance that Granger starts or takes minutes from Leonard.

[Brazil]

Please refrain from further posts like this in this thread. Thanks.

:lol already five tbh

[Seventyniner]

I see zero chance that Granger starts or takes minutes from Leonard.

Do you see any chance of the Spurs, if they get Granger, playing small more often? I don't know how effective Granger would be as a smallball 4 (with 3 guards and a big when Leonard is on the bench). Basically it would marginalize any big outside of the top 3, which is probably a good thing anyway.

[r0drig0lac]

More like light a fire under his ass

:lol

[Libri]

I would imagine, yes. I think Grangers issue is not just that he was traded, but traded from legit contender to worst team in the NBA. His role was limited on INDY - I can't imagine him being upset at that on another contender.

Good point. And now after nine years, the opportunity to accomplish something has now slipped away.

[TJastal]

I see zero chance that Granger starts or takes minutes from Leonard.

You're right. Pop loves him too much. The spurs anemic 1st unit offense would have to hit record levels of sluggishness before Pop would pull the plug.

[Mel_13]

Do you see any chance of the Spurs, if they get Granger, playing small more often? I don't know how effective Granger would be as a smallball 4 (with 3 guards and a big when Leonard is on the bench). Basically it would marginalize any big outside of the top 3, which is probably a good thing anyway.

I don't. For the last couple of seasons the Spurs have primarily gone small to match up with opponents that go small. By the time we get to the playoffs, the other 3 bigs will disappear unless we play Memphis or Indiana.

[Mel_13]

You're right. Pop loves him too much. The spurs anemic 1st unit offense would have to hit record levels of sluggishness before Pop would pull the plug.

Well, replacing Leonard with an inferior offensive player wouldn't seem to be a remedy for an anemic offense.

[TJastal]

Well, replacing Leonard with an inferior offensive player wouldn't seem to be a remedy for an anemic offense.

Granger regaining his old form > Leonard currently. Offensively, anyway..and like I said, Green has shown the ability to be the team's defensive stopper. With Parker most likely hampered until next season and Leonard contibuing to stink it up on offense I think a valid argument can be made for this move.

[Chinook]

Anyone who's followed Granger knows why he's pissed. He handled is demotion from face of the franchise about as well as anyone I've ever seen. George says Granger was his primary mentor. Danny was probably willing to take whatever the Pacers gave him to stay this summer. Instead, they dump him on the worst team in the league as soon.as they get a decent return for him. Basketball is just a business, but some teams don't treat it that way, and some players don't think of it that way.

Hopefully, he gets over it and signs on with the Spurs. I think it's among them, the Clipper and the Thunder. The Spurs' loyalty to their players may actually be an advantage for them here. Both OKC and LAC have unceremoniously dumped players this year. The Spurs' culture might feel like the best fit for what Granger wants in an organization.

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs are interested in Granger?

[DPG21920]

Yup - even look at the Hill trade. Spurs were very public about how difficult it was to trade him (which I haven't seen from INDY) and not only that they traded him to his hometown team which was on the upswing.

[Mel_13]

Granger regaining his old form

We can discuss that when it happens. Right now he is a markedly inferior offensive player when compared to Leonard. He's a well below average NBA offensive player right now.

[HarlemHeat37]

Granger regaining his old form > Leonard currently. Offensively, anyway..and like I said, Green has shown the ability to be the team's defensive stopper. With Parker most likely hampered until next season and Leonard contibuing to stink it up on offense I think a valid argument can be made for this move.

He's 31 with a busted knee and missed a bunch of games with a calf injury this season..he has no explosiveness remaining and he can't jump anymore..there's virtually no chance that he will regain his old form:lol..

If the Spurs sign him, it'll be to play 10 minutes per game in the playoffs, and/or if Leonard/Green gets in foul trouble, along with being insurance against Lebron/Durant from a size perspective..

[look_at_g_shred]

Would be nice if it was "Granger, interested in Signing with Spurs"

[Seventyniner]

Spurs are interested in Granger?

Actually, all we're going off of is a source saying Granger is interested in the Spurs or Heat. No word yet about whether the Spurs have reciprocated that interest.

[r0drig0lac]

Actually, all we're going off of is a source saying Granger is interested in the Spurs or Heat. No word yet about whether the Spurs have reciprocated that interest.


thanks, that was what I imagined, but it was not accessing early, so did not know they had new news

[toki9]

This has a Michael Finley 2.0 feel to it...

[TJastal]

He's 31 with a busted knee and missed a bunch of games with a calf injury this season..he has no explosiveness remaining and he can't jump anymore..there's virtually no chance that he will regain his old form:lol..

If the Spurs sign him, it'll be to play 10 minutes per game in the playoffs, and/or if Leonard/Green gets in foul trouble, along with being insurance against Lebron/Durant from a size perspective..

His game really never was predicated on explosive leaping however. I would be willing to bet he could give the spurs the midrange shooting they have been looking for with Leonard and surely his 3pt shooting % would improve aka Richard Jefferson. He's also a big game player not afraid of the moment.

[cd021]

If Granger and Caron Butler are both bought out, surely both won't be going to Miami.

Our hope should be that Miam already has Lebron, Battier and Beasley splitting minutes at the 3 & 4 with Bosh at the 5 and occasionally playing PF. Granger would be competing for minutes with 3 or four players. With San Antonio, a quick look at the depth chart shows only Leonard if Granger and his agent are interested.

[Mel_13]

His game really never was predicated on explosive leaping however. I would be willing to bet he could give the spurs the midrange shooting they have been looking for with Leonard and surely his 3pt shooting % would improve aka Richard Jefferson. He's also a big game player not afraid of the moment.

You would lose that bet:

2013-14 shooting percentages:

3-10 feet:
Granger: 30.0%
Leonard: 54%

10-16 feet:
Granger: 20.0%
Leonard: 48.8%

16 feet to 3pt:
Granger: 37.1%
Leonard: 44.4%

[exstatic]

You wonder if Granger remembers Boylen. That sounds better.

You missed the joke. Boylen forgot to put Kawhi back into the game, therefore, he has a bad memory.

[look_at_g_shred]

You would lose that bet:

2013-14 shooting percentages:

3-10 feet:
Granger: 30.0%
Leonard: 54%

10-16 feet:
Granger: 20.0%
Leonard: 48.8%

16 feet to 3pt:
Granger: 37.1%
Leonard: 44.4%
The stats do not indicate the volume of shots put up. I would bet Granger shot a lot more therefore the percentage is down. Though i'm not doubting the fact that Granger's jumpshot is broken either.

[TJastal]

You would lose that bet:

2013-14 shooting percentages:

3-10 feet:
Granger: 30.0%
Leonard: 54%

10-16 feet:
Granger: 20.0%
Leonard: 48.8%

16 feet to 3pt:
Granger: 37.1%
Leonard: 44.4%

Ewow.. didn't realize Granger was struggling that badly.

[siraulo23]

So he's joining the heat, move on

[look_at_g_shred]

Any idea what the guy would sign for? Vet min.?

[Mel_13]

The stats do not indicate the volume of shots put up. I would bet Granger shot a lot more therefore the percentage is down. Though i'm not doubting the fact that Granger's jumpshot is broken either.

85 shots for Granger, 169 shots for Kawhi.

Thing is, even if you go back to Granger's all star season in 2008-09 when he averaged over 25 ppg, his mid range percentages were lower than Kawhi's numbers this season. Kawhi's 3 point shooting was a problem early this season, but has been steadily increasing as the season progressed:

Nov: 20%
Dec: 36.1%
Jan: 43.5%

[slick'81]

That's assuming sixers let granger walk

[wildcardX]

How is it that the Spurs always get brought up for a lot of these free agents. Who starts that rumor?

[RD2191]

How is it that the Spurs always get brought up for a lot of these free agents. Who starts that rumor?
You'd think we would at least be able to land one of them.:lol

[Mel_13]

How is it that the Spurs always get brought up for a lot of these free agents. Who starts that rumor?

For these buyout guys, the assumption is that they will go to a contender. Most of the world outside of ST counts the Spurs in that group. Thus the assumption that San Antonio is among the possible destinations for these players.

[Mel_13]

You'd think we would at least be able to land one of them.:lol

Two in the last five years.

[Budkin]

So Miami it is

This tbh. It fits in with the whole Heat vs. Pacers theme too. I would be downright shocked if he signed with SA. Our only chance is if he just hates the Heat or something.

[szkorhetz]

Two in the last five years.
http://nucce.se/itssomething.png

[exstatic]

This tbh. It fits in with the whole Heat vs. Pacers theme too. I would be downright shocked if he signed with SA. Our only chance is if he just hates the Heat or something.

He does. He and LeBron f'ing hate each other. LeBron called him out as a fake tough guy last year. I also don't see how he gets any minutes behind LeBron and Battier.

[RD2191]

I'm pretty sure we all thought Ray Allen hated the Heat yet he still joined them.

[Libri]

You would lose that bet:

2013-14 shooting percentages:

3-10 feet:
Granger: 30.0%
Leonard: 54%

10-16 feet:
Granger: 20.0%
Leonard: 48.8%

16 feet to 3pt:
Granger: 37.1%
Leonard: 44.4%

This is good to know if he signs. We wont set our expectations too high. :lol

[TE]

He does. He and LeBron f'ing hate each other. LeBron called him out as a fake tough guy last year. I also don't see how he gets any minutes behind LeBron and Battier.
Not only that. Beasley will also get minutes at the 4, which is what Granger would play.

Him going to Miami makes no sense.

[TheGoldStandard]

So Roger Mason Jr

[dallasmaverickslose]

Not only that. Beasley will also get minutes at the 4, which is what Granger would play.

Him going to Miami makes no sense.

They could play him at the 2...

[TE]

They could play him at the 2...
Who? Granger?

[dallasmaverickslose]

Who? Granger?

Yup. He played primarily the 3 during his prime days in Indy, but also played at the 2 occasionally, and even the smallball 4. A good amount of 3's can fill in decently at the 2. I think Kawhi did it more often when he and Jax shared the floor.

[Texas_Ranger]

He's going to Miami

[r0drig0lac]

I'm pretty sure we all thought Ray Allen hated the Heat yet he still joined them.


this

[Spurs da champs]

this

Not quite the same, Ray never got in Bron's face or attempted to punk Bron as Granger has done, that goes back to Bron's Cleveland days IIRC. Tho, I'm sure the thought of winning a championship can heal those wounds (i.e. Ron Artest-Kobe).

[SpursDynasty21]

It would be awesome if Granger signed with the Spurs. He can still be a productive player, and maybe someone the Spurs could keep around for awhile.

[wildcardX]

Spurs interested in Glen Davis now?

[wildcardX]

......and so is Miami. I guess Miami can't take everyone.

[Obstructed_View]

I dunno, after his tough guy antics against the Heat and LeBron pretty much calling him out during that series because of it leads me to believe he probably won't end up in Miami, but who knows. Winning cures all

DG's actually as much of a pussy as they said he was, which is why he'll sign with them, at which point the entire Heat organization will pretend like it didn't mean anything. Then he'll win a ring.

[CitizenDwayne]

I'm pretty sure we all thought Ray Allen hated the Heat yet he still joined them.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[CitizenDwayne]

And anybody not getting pumped over the possibility of this is nuts...the alternative is Austin fucking Daye.

[superbigtime]

You think Boylen might come in handy here? Or Ayres for that matter? Depending on the relationship he had w/those guys

maybe even Brett Brown can vouch for us lol

Good point, but Boylen hasn't exactly wowed me with anything so far. ...what do his former players think of him?

[Russ]

I glanced at the heading and freaked out.

I thought I saw:


Ginger "pissed" when learned he had been traded . . .


:wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow

[Mal]

He`s done. Turner wont make Pacers better team than they could be with healthy Granger. They`ve traded him because he is done.

[timmy2003]

We already have Austin Daye

[hooperflash]

I think Granger wants playtime more than anything, he can get that easily in SA. Hope he signs with us.

[spurraider21]

He's not coming if he's watching today's game :depressed

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Granger didn't play in tonights game despite dressing out. He's gonna get waived.

[313]

And anybody not getting pumped over the possibility of this is nuts...the alternative is Austin fucking Daye.
are you a member on KTT

[SpurPadre]

Good point, but Boylen hasn't exactly wowed me with anything so far. ...what do his former players think of him?
Boylen doesn't remember him. Shit, he probably barely even remembers Paul George.

[cd021]

Any idea what the guy would sign for? Vet min.?

It would have to be unless a team had an exception that they could offer that paid more than the vet. min.

[cd021]

I still believe the Spurs could legitimately land Granger if he really is interested in the two (Miami and Spurs)

Miami has plenty of options on the wing as is. Even if he splits time on at SF and PF, he would still be behind James, Bosh, Battier etc.


Shane Battier-992 minutes player=87% of minutes at SF (863)

Michael Beasley-553 minutes player=65% of minutes at SF (359.5)

Rashard Lewis-739 minutes player=47% of minutes at SF (347.3)

Ray Allen-573 minutes player=43% of minutes at SF (239.5)

Lebron James-1942 minutes player=12% of minutes at SF (233)


Spurs only have 1 legit SF in Leonard and split the remaining minutes amongst Green and Ginobili. He could get up to 15 + minutes again as a combo 4.

[CitizenDwayne]

are you a member on KTT

No idea what that is

[SilverSpur]

I don't believe he will sign with Miami after he punked Le Bron last year. He hates Miami and Lebron.
My money is on the Spurs to sign him. Hopefully George Hill will talk to him and give him inside info on the organization.

[313]

No idea what that is
Oh, someone on there has the same avatar so I thought it was you

[Sean Cagney]

I don't believe he will sign with Miami after he punked Le Bron last year. He hates Miami and Lebron.
My money is on the Spurs to sign him. Hopefully George Hill will talk to him and give him inside info on the organization.

Your money is on the Spurs to sign him? I seriously doubt he does but if he does cool...... I would not bet a dime on it though, maybe LAC as most seem to sign with if not Miami. Spurs are not that attractive to players if you don't have someone in SA who knows you (Diaw Parker connection) or is close to you in the FO or coaching (Boylen I know but?). I would love to land him on the cheap for the rest of the year, but I doubt it happens honestly.

[Bruno]

At that stage of the season, you can't be too picky so Granger would be a damn nice signing.

Spurs have a hole in their roster and Granger would somewhat fill it.

[admiralsnackbar]

Your money is on the Spurs to sign him? I seriously doubt he does but if he does cool...... I would not bet a dime on it though, maybe LAC as most seem to sign with if not Miami. Spurs are not that attractive to players if you don't have someone in SA who knows you (Diaw Parker connection) or is close to you in the FO or coaching (Boylen I know but?). I would love to land him on the cheap for the rest of the year, but I doubt it happens honestly.

He knows Ayers... for whatever it's worth.

[jermaine]

Last night waa a game that showed why Granger would be the better signing. No one can create their own shot. We need that desperately!

[sventhedog]

if there's no defensive pf's available or atheltics sf/pf, granger would probably worth a gamble. though he hasn't played well enough this season to show he can still play at a high level.

big baby is a decent pickup but far from the shotblocker the spurs need. earl clark might might fit that athletic combo forward but i'm not sure about his defense.

[poop]

Lol in '09 ron artest was roughing up kobe in the playoffs in a bitter series, next season he jumped on the lakers wagon and they became friends:lmao
so grangers history with miami prob wont stop him from jumping on that wagon

[Budkin]

Lol in '09 ron artest was roughing up kobe in the playoffs in a bitter series, next season he jumped on the lakers wagon and they became friends:lmao
so grangers history with miami prob wont stop him from jumping on that wagon

The reality if it. This is not the NBA of the 80s.

[loveforthegame]

http://m.basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232103/sources-danny-granger-to-decide-between-heat-clippers-bulls-mavs-if-bought-out

This says its between Heat, Clippers, Bulls, or Mavs should he be bought out.

[Texas_Ranger]

Granger to the Heat, Davis to the Clippers and Clark to the Bulls. If we're lucky MWP will sign with the Spurs.

[CitizenDwayne]

http://m.basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232103/sources-danny-granger-to-decide-between-heat-clippers-bulls-mavs-if-bought-out

This says its between Heat, Clippers, Bulls, or Mavs should he be bought out.

:wakeup

[Mel_13]

He's taking a physical in Philly today. He may decide to stay there and try to show the rest of the NBA that he can still be a 30mpg starter.

[Chinook]

http://m.basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232103/sources-danny-granger-to-decide-between-heat-clippers-bulls-mavs-if-bought-out

This says its between Heat, Clippers, Bulls, or Mavs should he be bought out.

Bad article then. The Mavs aren't contenders, and the Bulls can't even afford him yet.

[HarlemHeat37]

Looking at Granger's games from this season, damn, this nigga looks even worse than I had previously thought, tbh:lol..

[Darius Bieber]

Spurs aren't gonna get any buy out players tbh.

[superbigtime]

I still believe the Spurs could legitimately land Granger if he really is interested in the two (Miami and Spurs)

Miami has plenty of options on the wing as is. Even if he splits time on at SF and PF, he would still be behind James, Bosh, Battier etc.


Shane Battier-992 minutes player=87% of minutes at SF (863)

Michael Beasley-553 minutes player=65% of minutes at SF (359.5)

Rashard Lewis-739 minutes player=47% of minutes at SF (347.3)

Ray Allen-573 minutes player=43% of minutes at SF (239.5)

Lebron James-1942 minutes player=12% of minutes at SF (233)


Spurs only have 1 legit SF in Leonard and split the remaining minutes amongst Green and Ginobili. He could get up to 15 + minutes again as a combo 4.

ridiculous how stacked they are.

[dunkman]

Granger is past his prime, the knee injury has limited his athletism. Not sure if he's good enough nowdays to make an impact with the Spurs and get 20 mpg at SF from the bench. The vet minimum for less then half a season is a small risk, though.

[Sean Cagney]

Lol in '09 ron artest was roughing up kobe in the playoffs in a bitter series, next season he jumped on the lakers wagon and they became friends:lmao
so grangers history with miami prob wont stop him from jumping on that wagon

YES, you are correct. Allen leaves the Boston team as well and signs with their rival the Heat, whom the year before had a heated 7 game series and no love lost. This is a pussy league now.

[SilverSpur]

You think Boylen might come in handy here? Or Ayres for that matter? Depending on the relationship he had w/those guys

maybe even Brett Brown can vouch for us lol

I like the things you've pointed out. The Brett Brown / Jim Boylen/ Jeff Aryes connection might help. Don't forget George Hill most likely talked to Granger about San Antono as well.
Also Roy Hibbert worked out with Duncan in the off season so maybe a good word is put in for us with Hill and Hibbert.

[SilverSpur]

Well, despite Granger not being very good, he's about as good as you could hope for. At least he doesn't have a coward mentality on top of being unable to perform. One anecdotal edge Spurs might have is that SA & IND are somewhat similar franchises (mindset / market..). On top of that I'm sure the great relationship Tim has with Hibbert surely is noticed by guys on Indy & I'm sure Hill spoke highly of them. If there is a buyout and mutual legit interest I'm sure SA has a good shot.

I think your right . Playing time will come into play. With a shortage of small forwards , granger can expect more playing time in SA than he would in Miami,

[UZER]

:lol when spurs where winning chips, the excuse was players didn't want to come to a team thats already winning, but would rather help a team win a title.

Miami has won, is stacked, and everybody STILL wants to go there.

Bottom line, nobody wants to come to SA....ever. Which makes what they've accomplished the last 15 years even that much more impressive.

Although I still think they've left a few titles on the table due to pops stubbornness.

[DesignatedT]

:lol when spurs where winning chips, the excuse was players didn't want to come to a team thats already winning, but would rather help a team win a title.

:lol never heard this excuse.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ray Allen and Birdman are the only key ring chasers Miami has acquired, tbh(and Birdman wasn't even pursued by most teams IIRC)..I don't know where people get the idea that they are stacked from..

Rashard Lewis sucks, Battier has been done since their 1st title, and Beasley doesn't even have a spot in their rotation due to his defense and IQ:lol..

It's pretty easy to look good playing a role around Lebron, as we have seen with our own team and Duncan in the early 2000s..

[spurs10]

:lol never heard this excuse.Yeah I never heard the 'too much success' excuse.

[Chinook]

:lol never heard this excuse.


Karl Malone used that.

[DesignatedT]

So he went to the Lakers :lol

[cd021]

Lol in '09 ron artest was roughing up kobe in the playoffs in a bitter series, next season he jumped on the lakers wagon and they became friends:lmao
so grangers history with miami prob wont stop him from jumping on that wagon

Yeah Kobe actually said that Ron visited him in the showers in the Lakers locker room. Artest said that he wanted to be a Laker. In the off season, Ariza left and MWP signed for the MLE.

As for Granger, he just played Lebron a bit physically. There shouldn't be any beef but Miami is super stacked at SF and Lebron plays virtually all of his minutes at PF.

[bklynspursfan]

I like the things you've pointed out. The Brett Brown / Jim Boylen/ Jeff Aryes connection might help. Don't forget George Hill most likely talked to Granger about San Antono as well.
Also Roy Hibbert worked out with Duncan in the off season so maybe a good word is put in for us with Hill and Hibbert.

Ah very true... Helps to have connections. I just hope they're strong enough to persuade him our way. Seems like a tough thing to do, like only Boris Diaw was a lock due to TP's relationship with him.

[spurraider21]

Ray Allen and Birdman are the only key ring chasers Miami has acquired, tbh(and Birdman wasn't even pursued by most teams IIRC)..I don't know where people get the idea that they are stacked from..

Rashard Lewis sucks, Battier has been done since their 1st title, and Beasley doesn't even have a spot in their rotation due to his defense and IQ:lol..

It's pretty easy to look good playing a role around Lebron, as we have seen with our own team and Duncan in the early 2000s..
I think Battier nailing 6 three pointers in game 7 helped tbh, and he still plays good defense regularly.

[T Park]

Ray Allen and Birdman are the only key ring chasers Miami has acquired, tbh(and Birdman wasn't even pursued by most teams IIRC)..I don't know where people get the idea that they are stacked from..

Rashard Lewis sucks, Battier has been done since their 1st title, and Beasley doesn't even have a spot in their rotation due to his defense and IQ:lol..

It's pretty easy to look good playing a role around Lebron, as we have seen with our own team and Duncan in the early 2000s..

While I agree mostly, I disagree on Battier.

[dunkman]

Some time ago Diaw signed with the Spurs after the buyout, Granger could sign with the Spurs too.

[therealtruth]

Karl Malone used that.

He said whoever won in '03 (Lakers/Spurs) he would go to the opposite team. Ironically winning in '03 caused us to not get him and prevented us from repeating in '04.

The Spurs need to be faster to free agents. There are some key ones you can't let get away even if the reason is to keep them from going to a competitor. Ray Allen and Birdman are both good examples of that. If the Heat didn't get them the Spurs would have had a easier time winning the Finals.

[DMC]

Yeah I never heard the 'too much success' excuse.

Same

I've heard "no available minutes" excuse... could go hand in hand.

Mostly it's that high strung "stars" don't want to be corralled by Pop and made to fall in line by the big 3.

[DMC]

He said whoever won in '03 (Lakers/Spurs) he would go to the opposite team. Ironically winning in '03 caused us to not get him and prevented us from repeating in '04.

The Spurs need to be faster to free agents. There are some key ones you can't let get away even if the reason is to keep them from going to a competitor. Ray Allen and Birdman are both good examples of that. If the Heat didn't get them the Spurs would have had a easier time winning the Finals.

If you don't win in 03, you cannot repeat in 04, so winning in 03 couldn't have been the reason for not repeating. Otherwise it's not ironic, it's a paradox.

[Hoops Czar]

Some time ago Diaw signed with the Spurs after the buyout, Granger could sign with the Spurs too.


Is Granger French and good friends with Parker?

[ploto]

If he is pissed at the Pacers, he would want the opportunity to beat them in the play-offs. Miami makes the most sense. If he goes to the West, he wants to be on the team that he thinks would make it to the Finals. Sorry, but I do not think that is SA.

[look_at_g_shred]

If he is pissed at the Pacers, he would want the opportunity to beat them in the play-offs. Miami makes the most sense. If he goes to the West, he wants to be on the team that he thinks would make it to the Finals. Sorry, but I do not think that is SA.
Who's the most recent team from the west to make it to the finals?

[exstatic]

Who's the most recent team from the west to make it to the finals?

ploto hates the Spurs front office since they traded her shower nozzle fantasy man Rasho. Pretty impossible to have a rational conversation with her about the team.

[Texas_Ranger]

I know Rasho's contract was bad, but damn the Spurs got fucking Matt Bonner in that trade. :(

[look_at_g_shred]

The guy has to be bought out by tomorrow right?

[loveforthegame]

The guy has to be bought out by tomorrow right?

I think it's March 1st. Bruno, Ace, or Mel will hopefully confirm though.

[td4mvp2k]

http://m.basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232103/sources-danny-granger-to-decide-between-heat-clippers-bulls-mavs-if-bought-outThis says its between Heat, Clippers, Bulls, or Mavs should he be bought out.expected... wishful thinking otherwise tbh

[Mel_13]

I think it's March 1st. Bruno, Ace, or Mel will hopefully confirm though.

Waivers must be requested by March 1st in order for a player to be playoff eligible with a new team.

[Aremid]

expected... wishful thinking otherwise tbh


Great job FO! Way to recruit!

[Embedded]

Lmao at comparing recruiting Tim fucking Duncan and Danny Granger.
Haaaahahahaahahaaa

[bklynspursfan]

Great job FO! Way to recruit!

There's only so much they can do when it comes to attracting FA. Not an easy thing to get guys to play here when there's places like LA, Miami, etc...

[Prime Time]

There's only so much they can do when it comes to attracting FA. Not an easy thing to get guys to play here when there's places like LA, Miami, etc...
Parker should go a little underground and do some recruiting himself. "Come to San Antonio, Your wife will love it here!"

[cjw]

While I agree mostly, I disagree on Battier.

Right - he's still got it and the Heat have done a great job saving him for when they need him most. He's the type of guy who would have been awesome to have on our squad to spell Kawhi at the 3 for 12 minutes a night. He and RayRay will always haunt me with those two threes (Griz game 1 / and then 6).

[timtonymanu]

Battier is done, tbh. He went off in Game 7, but he was awful the previous series before. There's a reason he was demoted in the playoffs in favor of Mike Miller.

[Budkin]

Battier is done, tbh. He went off in Game 7, but he was awful the previous series before. There's a reason he was demoted in the playoffs in favor of Mike Miller.

If it weren't for Battier we would have won Game 7, even after 6. He thrives against the Spurs. Just one of those guys like Derek Fisher that lives to destroy us.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If it weren't for Battier we would have won Game 7, even after 6. He thrives against the Spurs. Just one of those guys like Derek Fisher that lives to destroy us.

:tu

[james evans]

When media says player X is interested in the Spurs, it's usually code word for "I wanna get as much money as possible, so I'm just going to name the Spurs to increase my value"

That being said, he'd be a great back up 3.
haha that's basically it. all u have to do is say "spurs" regarding a trade or free agency and damn near half the teams in the league will hop on it regardless of whom it is. mfs don't want us to get anyone worth a damn.

[heyheymymy]

agreed with battier and fisher just being spur killers and i'd like to add Ibaka to the list as well.

[dunkman]

Is Granger French and good friends with Parker?

The bottom line is that Granger is a pro, he could get playtime in SA and afterwards a similar contract as Diaw. The Spurs will need help at SF to have chances to win it all. As long as everyone is healthy, this roster is complete:

- Patty is playing at high level, the backup PG was usually a weak point for the Spurs. While he lacks vision, Patty can dribble the half court and pass to Manu, Belli or Diaw, to play off the ball. Tbh, not sure why Pop took so much time to give Patty his chance.
- Should Green dissapear in the playoffs, this time the Spurs have Belli that is very confident in his shot and driving. The addition of Belli also make it very difficult for the other teams to disrupt the Spurs offense.
- Diaw is playing really well this season.
- Granger would fill the last need the Spurs have. He may lack the time to get used to the systemn but he's very talented. Can shot, create his shot and defend.

[cd021]

Battier is done, tbh. He went off in Game 7, but he was awful the previous series before. There's a reason he was demoted in the playoffs in favor of Mike Miller.

That was because his shot went south. Miller can't defend but can get hot from deep. Spo went with Miller after the end of the ECF but returned to Battier late in the Finals.

[ace3g]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/564685_534356866680497_630377118_n.jpg

[Seventyniner]

Um, #33 is already taken.

[exstatic]

Um, #33 is already taken.

3 is gone, too. He can have 13 or 30.

[look_at_g_shred]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/564685_534356866680497_630377118_n.jpg
Is this design done because it's between us and the heat only?

[Ice009]

Hmm, wonder if Brett Brown can have a quiet word with him and tell him something along the lines of "look, we'll buy you out if you sign with the Spurs, if not, enjoy your seat on the bench here the rest of the season".

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

NBA Rumors: San Antonio Spurs eyeing signing Danny Granger, Beno Udrih
http://fansided.com/2014/02/22/nba-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-sign-danny-granger-beno-udrih/

[exstatic]

Is this design done because it's between us and the heat only?
That was the initial word, but who knows? He isn't actually bought out yet, either.

[Seventyniner]

NBA Rumors: San Antonio Spurs eyeing signing Danny Granger, Beno Udrih


http://fansided.com/2014/02/22/nba-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-sign-danny-granger-beno-udrih/

Wow. Just imagine the meltdown here if the Spurs end up with Udrih while missing out on all the forwards.

[Clipper Nation]

Hmm, wonder if Brett Brown can have a quiet word with him and tell him something along the lines of "look, we'll buy you out if you sign with the Spurs, if not, enjoy your seat on the bench here the rest of the season".
Wouldn't that be tampering?

[Jwash_1986]

For some reason I get the feeling Granger would like to sign with Spurs. He's use to a small market team. He has more opportunity with the Spurs going forward. George Hill, Scola and Hibbert I'm sure out in good words about the Spurs. He to me seems like a player who wants to play for Spurs for one simple reson, he likes how they run there business. I could be wrong but that's just the impression I get from him.