What you think of patty's defence?

[jkid12456]

would it be sufficient in the playoffs?

[TheGoldStandard]

Off the bench it's okay

[SpursFan86]

Depends on who he's matched up with...but in general, yes, I think he plays good enough defense to warrant playing time in the playoffs.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

i think he's a scrapper... which makes up for his below average D. i say its below average mostly because of his size. if he was bigger he'd be straight

[jkid12456]

He puts a lot of effort in defence, i'd say, yes his full court pressure and scrappy play, does make up for average defence.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

It's fine.

[superbigtime]

He needs to work on his shot blocking.

[freetiago]

his physical attributes will never allow him to be an effective pick and roll defender in this pick and roll league
but he hustles after it and has causes some teams to get into their offense late by ballhawking and tonight he causes a key turnover in the final minute

[look_at_g_shred]

I like his defense better.

[Chinook]

It's abysmal, but he gets a few hustle plays. It's not from a lack of effort, either. It's too bad there's no one to protect him in the second unit.

[DMC]

Patty cannot play a lick of real defense. He's a hustle guy who disrupts inbounds plays and annoys the ball handler, but otherwise he's too small to bother anyone.

[ceds]

While his defense has improved a mile since last season

If / when we play OKC the Mills v Reggie Jackson match up worries me and i'd consider cojo

Otherwise he should play vs any other playoff team backup

[ElNono]

I like the effort. The results might not always be there, but he could just mail it in (ie: RMJ/Neal) and he does not. Sometimes it pays off. Very happy with Patty as our backup PG.

[cd021]

It's abysmal, but he gets a few hustle plays. It's not from a lack of effort, either. It's too bad there's no one to protect him in the second unit.

I'm assuming Pop will start Duncan and Splitter, pull Splitter after 7 minutes and have him play with the bench from the 2 minute mark of the 1st through the 8 minute mark of the 2nd when Tim reenters the game. He did that against GSW and Miami. Keeps a rim protector and a rebounder on the floor at all times and allows the Spurs to go small with the 2nd unit (with Leonard) if needed.

Mills should be better in that instance. I still get the feeling that Joseph will get burn against OKC ,should we meet them, with Jackson's recent history of torching us.

[Boomersgold]

It's nothing special. Definitely an improvement from last season though. If Parker, being the horrid defender that he is, can get minutes in the playoffs, then so can Patty.

[Hoops Czar]

I like the effort. The results might not always be there, but he could just mail it in (ie: RMJ/Neal) and he does not. Sometimes it pays off. Very happy with Patty as our backup PG.

Yes, I 'm happy with him as a backup SG but not PG. The Spurs FO thinks they can convert SG's to PG but it just doesn't work like that. It's not working with Patty, it didn't work with Neal and it failed with Hills. One f these days, I'm optimistic the FO will get a clue and actually sign a backup PG.

[Mikeanaro]

If some day I need a bodyguard I would pick Patty over Tony and Cojo

[ElNono]

Yes, I 'm happy with him as a backup SG but not PG. The Spurs FO thinks they can convert SG's to PG but it just doesn't work like that. It's not working with Patty, it didn't work with Neal and it failed with Hills. One f these days, I'm optimistic the FO will get a clue and actually sign a backup PG.

The Spurs don't want a "true/classical" PG. Never did. The last one they had was Jacque Vaughn, and he played mostly because of his defense (and because Parker played nearly 40mpg).

In the system, the PG position is run by a scorer (which is what Parker mostly is), with good enough handles to safely bring the ball up and execute plays. Unlike Neal or RMJ (both of which had below average/shitty handles), Patty can fill that role. Hill didn't quite work because he wasn't really a scorer.

[Hoops Czar]

If some day I need a bodyguard I would pick Patty over Tony and Cojo


Don't dis Cojo. I expect big things from him by 2020.

[Chinook]

The Spurs don't want a "true/classical" PG. Never did. The last one they had was Jacque Vaughn, and he played mostly because of his defense (and because Parker played nearly 40mpg).

TJ Ford, tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

Don't dis Cojo. I expect big things from him by 2020.
Lol! He will get his chance first as a backup bodyguard but he needs to be more aggressive, Pop could be an elite protector...POPINATOR!

[ElNono]

TJ Ford, tbh.

Actually, TJ Ford was more of a scorer than a classical PG (averaged double-digit scoring in his better years). We obviously had him at the tail end, and he was more of a floor general for us on his extremely short stint (incredibly he only played 14 games for the Spurs. It sure felt like it was more).

[Robz4000]

Really miss Ford tbh. I honestly think he would've been a difference maker against OKC that year.

[Drom John]

Mills is 11th on the Spurs in DRtg at 104, so third stringer defense, except …
Joseph is 12th and Parker is 17th.

The missed Ford also had a DRtg of 104 his last year.

[Boomersgold]

Mills is 11th on the Spurs in DRtg at 104, so third stringer defense, except …
Joseph is 12th and Parker is 17th.

The missed Ford also had a DRtg of 104 his last year.
How is Parker 17th on the Spurs when there are only 15 roster spots on an NBA team?

[Hoops Czar]

Mills is 11th on the Spurs in DRtg at 104, so third stringer defense, except …
Joseph is 12th and Parker is 17th.

The missed Ford also had a DRtg of 104 his last year.

Parker's defensive rating is truly bad. I didn't even realize the Spurs had 17 players on the roster.

[Boomersgold]

Parker's defensive rating is truly bad. I didn't even realize the Spurs had 17 players on the roster.
Parker does have the highest defensive rating out of all of our guards (now that De Colo's gone). No surprise really. He's never been a defender.

[Mel_13]

It's going to be something to watch once Parker returns. His defense has been really bad this season. How much of that can be attributed to injuries and simply coasting remains to be seen. Either way, he has to get back to being at least an average defender for his position.

[Mel_13]

One other thing. Tony has been bad defensively this season and the eye test matches his defensive rating.

Defensive rating, however, can be misleading. It's an estimate based on box score stats which gives great weight to blocks, steals, and defensive rebounds. Bruce Bowen was frequently found near the bottom of team defensive ratings during the years that he was regarded as an elite defender.

[MeloHype]

Mills is 11th on the Spurs in DRtg at 104, so third stringer defense, except …
Joseph is 12th and Parker is 17th.

The missed Ford also had a DRtg of 104 his last year.
That's a shitty stat

[Drom John]

How is Parker 17th on the Spurs when there are only 15 roster spots on an NBA team?

Parker defense is behind four former Spurs: Thomas, De Colo, Brown and Jeffers.

[Chinook]

Mills is a really.good rebounder for a PG. So his defensive rating is higher because of that. It's also why Leonard's is so high, but people have a hard time believing that.

[cd021]

Mills is 11th on the Spurs in DRtg at 104, so third stringer defense, except …
Joseph is 12th and Parker is 17th.

The missed Ford also had a DRtg of 104 his last year.

Mills is 9th in D Rating. Its a 3 way tie with Baynes and Bonner but Mills has played more minutes than both.

[cd021]

Parker defense is behind four former Spurs: Thomas, De Colo, Brown and Jeffers.

thats misleading. Only Brown has exceeded 100 minutes. The more minutes, the more accurate the stat becomes have played. Its still very bad but when looking at those who have played more than 300 minutes, he is 13th.

[philldafunk]

I don't like him playing so tight and agressive, I'd like to see him give a little more cushion.