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LkrFan
03-07-2014, 11:13 PM
True. Who disagrees?

Budkin
03-07-2014, 11:21 PM
Guy still gets thunderref calls

MeloHype
03-07-2014, 11:23 PM
Would say Wade but he can't even play 2 games

Sybok
03-07-2014, 11:23 PM
He must have had a good game tonight. Someone is always harping on about how good X player is just after a good game, but seems for forget him at other times.

LkrFan
03-07-2014, 11:28 PM
He must have had a good game tonight. Someone is always harping on about how good X player is just after a good game, but seems for forget him at other times.
True, but Beard has been ballin all year. The case can be made that he is the best. OKC fucked up.

Sybok
03-07-2014, 11:32 PM
True, but Beard has been ballin all year. The case can be made that he is the best. OKC fucked up.

Right, and you just now thought about it. Typical Lakers fan; always on the nuts of whomever is winning.

LkrFan
03-07-2014, 11:33 PM
Right, and you just now thought about it.
No, this is the first Rockets game I've seen this year. Box scores can only get me so far.

Sybok
03-07-2014, 11:35 PM
*slurp*

LkrFan
03-07-2014, 11:36 PM
N:lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-07-2014, 11:38 PM
Lol sorry he's not better than George. Maybe if he could play defense. But he can't. One game doesn't mean shit.

Sybok
03-07-2014, 11:39 PM
mmm mmm loves me some bearded nigga

sook
03-07-2014, 11:40 PM
Lol sorry he's not better than George. Maybe if he could play defense. But he can't. One game doesn't mean shit.

Are you retarded? :lol look at his season average and look at George's season average going forward into the season as well.

Not to mention George is a SF you fucking idiot :lol

sook
03-07-2014, 11:42 PM
George is being exposed while harden who has played good all season has kicked up into an even higher gear since January . They don't even play the same position doe.

HarlemHeat37
03-07-2014, 11:43 PM
:lol did Lkrfan just watch a game for the first time this season, tbh?..

Harden was easily the best SG in the league last year, and it's a landslide this season..the SG position is just embarrassing right now, to be fair, I don't even know who would be in the top 5 after Harden and maybe Wade:lol..

Derozan could be the 3rd best, which is pathetic:lol..

HemisfairArena
03-07-2014, 11:44 PM
Harden/Howard are the best one-two punch since Shaq/Kobe. And I'm talking SG/C...inside/outside game. We'll see how well they do together over the years but they are getting stronger by the day.

sook
03-07-2014, 11:48 PM
:lol did Lkrfan just watch a game for the first time this season, tbh?..

Harden was easily the best SG in the league last year, and it's a landslide this season..the SG position is just embarrassing right now, to be fair, I don't even know who would be in the top 5 after Harden and maybe Wade:lol..

Derozan could be the 3rd best, which is pathetic:lol..
Harlem with the truff bombs. I didn't even feel like I had to explain that he was the best last season since Kobe went down. I hate to admit it but you're right sg position is not as good as it used to be.

LkrFan
03-07-2014, 11:49 PM
:lol did Lkrfan just watch a game for the first time this season, tbh?..

Harden was easily the best SG in the league last year, and it's a landslide this season..the SG position is just embarrassing right now, to be fair, I don't even know who would be in the top 5 after Harden and maybe Wade:lol..

Derozan could be the 3rd best, which is pathetic:lol..
:lol - yes, first Rockets game. Armed Forces Network doesn't play them too much out here. I'll have NBALP when I transfer back to the states this summer though.

HarlemHeat37
03-07-2014, 11:52 PM
Harlem with the truff bombs. I didn't even feel like I had to explain that he was the best last season since Kobe went down. I hate to admit it but you're right sg position is not as good as it used to be.

Harden was easily better than Kobe and Wade last year, tbh..

Most people downplay Harden's ability and impact simply because they dislike him and hate his game..

sook
03-07-2014, 11:54 PM
Harden was easily better than Kobe and Wade last year, tbh..

Most people downplay Harden's ability and impact simply because they dislike him and hate his game..

Maybe .... but it just feels wrong to say that harden was better than pre Achilles Kobe.

Rogue
03-07-2014, 11:55 PM
best SG who barely plays D? Beard ain't having no shit to guard tbh.

sook
03-07-2014, 11:58 PM
best SG who barely plays D? Beard ain't having no shit to guard tbh.

It took a while to realize this... But beard is actually an average defender. He defends stronger guys really well but can't stay with smaller laterally quick guys. They have been playing t his strengths now.

LkrFan
03-07-2014, 11:59 PM
best SG who barely plays D? Beard ain't having no shit to guard tbh.
m_mDTLphIVY

scanry
03-08-2014, 12:35 AM
Maybe .... but it just feels wrong to say that harden was better than pre Achilles Kobe.

Unlike other whimps, Beard nigga took his game to another level after the 2012 finals debacle.

He was easily the best SG last year. His efficiency was off last year, but he now has the talent around him to do some serious damage this post season.

The Rockets look scary right now. OKC & the Spurs better watch out. The Clippers match up well against the Rockets though.

scanry
03-08-2014, 12:38 AM
It took a while to realize this... But beard is actually a good defender. He defends stronger guys really well but can't stay with smaller laterally quick guys. They have been playing t his strengths now.

More like average because he doesn't have the lateral quickness.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-08-2014, 12:49 AM
Are you retarded? :lol look at his season average and look at George's season average going forward into the season as well.

Not to mention George is a SF you fucking idiot :lol

cry some more faggot Harden can't play defense and when he can't get to the line he's like a fish outta water

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-08-2014, 12:50 AM
It took a while to realize this... But beard is actually a good defender.

http://jemblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/mj-laughing-jemblog-dot-com.gif

sook
03-08-2014, 12:54 AM
More like average because he doesn't have the lateral quickness.

Yea my bad I just noticed that, you're right, I meant to say average.

sook
03-08-2014, 12:56 AM
cry some more faggot Harden can't play defense and when he can't get to the line he's like a fish outta water

You just found out that him and George didn't even play the same position gtfo :lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-08-2014, 01:04 AM
You just found out that him and George didn't even play the same position gtfo :lol

:lol Manu plays the 3 sometimes too.. does that mean he isn't a 2 guard?

spurraider21
03-08-2014, 01:05 AM
Harden has been the best shooting guard since he joined the Rox. This isn't even a question at this point :lol

spurraider21
03-08-2014, 01:06 AM
His defense has fallen off a cliff since his OKC days where he was actually a plus defender

sook
03-08-2014, 01:08 AM
:lol Manu plays the 3 sometimes too.. does that mean he isn't a 2 guard?

You have a point about the "wing" which is the 2 and 3 interchanged but Harden is strictly a 2 for the rockets. Pop has such an efficient system that Manu can play probably play PF and they would still win games :lol

sook
03-08-2014, 01:09 AM
His defense has fallen off a cliff since his OKC days where he was actually a plus defender

Yea, he's really picked it up since January though. I would say he's average compared to the atrocious side he showed us earlier this year and for some of last season.

MeloHype
03-08-2014, 02:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/cwF7veX.jpg

sook
03-08-2014, 03:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/cwF7veX.jpg

ROFL at that upside down super saiyan hair for the beard :lol

Splits
03-08-2014, 03:12 AM
ROFL at that upside down super saiyan hair for the beard :lol

Is that some kind of Naruto faggot shit?

sook
03-08-2014, 03:16 AM
Is that some kind of Naruto faggot shit?

Wtf?

Did you just compare DBZ to some gay ass naruto faggotry? :lol

Every mofo grew up watching that show, get with the program son.

Splits
03-08-2014, 03:22 AM
Luva hacked Sook's account?


http://i.imgur.com/kmOhEKQ.jpg

Robz4000
03-08-2014, 03:36 AM
The Rockets look scary right now. OKC & the Spurs better watch out. The Clippers match up well against the Rockets though.

Spurs yes, but OKC would destroy the Rockets in 5 games max imo.

sook
03-08-2014, 03:38 AM
:lol


Abandon thread. I already have PTSD from baseline's troll thread regarding that fake Pau Gasol tweet.


This is the reference btw doe:

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/awrXrwD_460sa.gif

Sybok
03-08-2014, 11:11 AM
Harden has been the best shooting guard since he joined the Rox. This isn't even a question at this point :lol

No he hasn't been.

Bynumite
03-08-2014, 11:34 AM
Harden was easily the best SG in the league last year.

Sup faggot? Could you tell us exactly what makes Harden better than pre-achilles Kobe?

Kobe had better numbers across the board and LAL still managed to pass the Rockets in the standings despite the Lakers' struggles. Harden beat Kobe in the FTA department though, i'll give you that.

djohn2oo8
03-08-2014, 12:00 PM
Sup faggot? Could you tell us exactly what makes Harden better than pre-achilles Kobe?

Kobe had better numbers across the board and LAL still managed to pass the Rockets in the standings despite the Lakers' struggles. Harden beat Kobe in the FTA department though, i'll give you that.
Kobe had the better team, yet still didn't pass the Rockets until he went down. Sup with that?

Katherine Robinson
03-08-2014, 12:08 PM
What has become of the SG position when this is a valid question? Sad days indeed.

spurraider21
03-08-2014, 01:44 PM
No he hasn't been.
^Philo

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-08-2014, 01:55 PM
As much as I hate to say it.. Kobe > Harden last year

Mugen
03-08-2014, 02:16 PM
:lol Kirby's team last year was supposed to challenge for a 'ship while the Rockets weren't supposed to sniff the playoffs.

Roxsfan
03-08-2014, 02:47 PM
WFGAS about pre-ach. Kobe? That is the past. The present and future for Kobe is essentially retirement. He had no lift on his jump shot and was easily blocked on his jump shot - it was rather sad. His quickness/1st step was gone. All he could do was pump fake, pivot and pass. He had one baseline dunk that he BARELY made it over the rim. Based on his age, mileage, and Achilles injury - I see nothing to indicate a return to anything other than scrub vet. status. He and Nash need to retire.

Harden is a beast. How good he will be is based on continuing to work on his d and being willing to share/move the ball. His offense will be there save for the occasional off nite

Sybok
03-08-2014, 03:33 PM
^Philo

^Knew you would respond because you're Philo.

AaronY
03-08-2014, 03:52 PM
It took a while to realize this... But beard is actually an average defender.
Rofl

no just no

Calispursfan11
03-08-2014, 04:26 PM
That dude Marco or Patty Mills (he's not really a PG) are prolly top 10 at the moment tbh.

spurraider21
03-08-2014, 04:43 PM
^Knew you would respond because you're Philo.
So who was the best 2 guard in the league last season?

Rogue
03-08-2014, 07:14 PM
There ain't many strict SG in the league, to begin with. Most 6'4-6'6 niggas are swingers between SF and SG imho, most of them don't stick to the SG anymore. I can see that even Kobe who is God will play more as a SF next season (unless they can get Melo in the coming summer)

Bill_Brasky
03-08-2014, 08:27 PM
:lol did Lkrfan just watch a game for the first time this season, tbh?..

Harden was easily the best SG in the league last year, and it's a landslide this season..the SG position is just embarrassing right now, to be fair, I don't even know who would be in the top 5 after Harden and maybe Wade:lol..

Derozan could be the 3rd best, which is pathetic:lol..
:lmao oft injured old ass Manu would probably be 3. Its pretty sad when the lack of talent is so prevalent that Kobe's cream filled ass got voted into the AS game.

Bill_Brasky
03-08-2014, 08:29 PM
As much as I hate to say it.. Kobe > Harden last year

You're like a fountain of bad takes.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-08-2014, 08:41 PM
You're like a fountain of bad takes.

Prove me wrong then.

LkrFan
03-08-2014, 10:06 PM
:lmao oft injured old ass Manu would probably be 3. Its pretty sad when the lack of talent is so prevalent that Kobe's cream filled ass got voted into the AS game.
:lmao - that's rich coming from BNSF. ;)

Sybok
03-08-2014, 10:21 PM
So who was the best 2 guard in the league last season?

You do realize "guard" is a defensive term, right?

spurraider21
03-08-2014, 10:29 PM
You do realize "guard" is a defensive term, right?
its the name of a position. why can't you answer simple questions?

Sybok
03-08-2014, 11:25 PM
its the name of a position. why can't you answer simple questions?
lol dance Philo, dance.

spurraider21
03-08-2014, 11:35 PM
lol dance Philo, dance.
Simple minds can't answer simple questions. That's been your M.O.

Sybok
03-08-2014, 11:36 PM
:lmao

midnightpulp
03-09-2014, 01:12 AM
Ahem, I called this last year

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209832

sook
03-09-2014, 02:31 AM
Ahem, I called this last year

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209832

were you banned? It seems like you just got out of a coma.

spurraider21
03-09-2014, 02:37 AM
Ahem, I called this last year

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209832

my post in that thread...


Love the way he plays. Its almost always a layup or a 3 pointer from him. Very efficient. His FG% isn't spectacular (45.8%) but its very respectable for a guy carrying the load the way he is. He's shooting well over 50% on his 2 point attempts, and gets to the line over 10 times a game, and not in BS Durant fashion. He attacks the rim more aggressively than Manu tbh. While he isn't an elite defender, he does come up with 2 steals per game which puts him top 6 in the league there. Also a very willing passer. Only knock on him would be turnovers, but on a team with a pace as fast as Houston, and considering its his first year truly putting a team on his back, its not exactly something you can knock him for.

His man to man defense, though not what it was before (he exerts way more energy on offense than he had to on a team with Westbrick and Durant), is still solid. I still have visions of him defending Kobe pretty darn well in last year's playoffs.
aside from that hysterical segment in bold, i think i was (and am) in agreement

djohn2oo8
03-10-2014, 01:57 AM
cBDZnCcWL1Y

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 02:50 AM
cBDZnCcWL1Y
look at his drive on the first play, placing the ball on lopez' back :lmao

sook
03-10-2014, 02:54 AM
look at his drive on the first play, placing the ball on lopez' back :lmao

If lopez tried to hesitate back he would have drawn that contact for an and1. I know a lot of people hate it, but if you can get the defender to fall for it or force the contact through it to get some extra points why not. Its also why he's able to get through the lane a lot easier, it scares people as they don't want to pick up a foul.

z0sa
03-10-2014, 02:56 AM
I don't think it's really a contest at this point.

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 02:59 AM
If lopez tried to hesitate back he would have drawn that contact for an and1. I know a lot of people hate it, but if you can get the defender to fall for it or force the contact through it to get some extra points why not. Its also why he's able to get through the lane a lot easier, it scares people as they don't want to pick up a foul.
i know there's tact behind it. it just bothers me when really talented players like harden pull stuff like that. i feel the same way with durant's rip through. its like dude, ur better than that

Gummi Clutch
03-10-2014, 05:03 AM
James Harden has been playing at a ridiculous level for a couple of months now, especially the last 3 weeks. Its no surprise that rockets are also cruising past many elite teams at the same time. I am curious to see how he will do against OKC this week.

Bynumite
03-10-2014, 09:14 AM
Ahem, I called this last year

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209832

Harden wasn't the best SG in the West when you made that thread but he is now by default.

poeticism707
03-10-2014, 05:31 PM
True. Who disagrees?

False.

Beard ain't event the best SG on his team.

djohn2oo8
03-10-2014, 05:37 PM
False.

Beard ain't event the best SG on his team.
http://www.leaguememe.com/images/vWZMB2zmHGTjhEibU7PlJ6YReF5sLkcynCfANtOI.gif

sook
03-10-2014, 05:45 PM
False.

Beard ain't event the best SG on his team.

The irony about getting attention is, sometimes you don't have to try so hard to get it.

poeticism707
03-10-2014, 05:50 PM
The irony about getting attention is, sometimes you don't have to try so hard to get it.

Any fan of that chest pounding, fake thug, Harden, know all about tying to get attention.

Or so I surmise.

poeticism707
03-10-2014, 05:57 PM
Ah, yes, the sound of silence.

Lovely.

Gummi Clutch
03-10-2014, 06:02 PM
Ah, yes, the sound of silence.

Lovely.
Dude, you're dumb as fuck.

I doubt sook or any of the other posters here will give you the time of day you're so desperately crying for :lol

poeticism707
03-10-2014, 06:15 PM
Dude, you're dumb as fuck.

I doubt sook or any of the other posters here will give you the time of day you're so desperately crying for :lol

Another troll on ignore.

That makes about 100.

poeticism707
03-10-2014, 06:16 PM
Silence reigns supreme.

Sybok
03-10-2014, 06:29 PM
I call fallacy of the beard here.

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 06:46 PM
I call fallacy of the beard here.
i wonder if there is anybody on ST that enjoys arguing as much as you and I do

Pelicans78
03-10-2014, 06:53 PM
Yes Harden is easily the best SG this season. Sadly, DeRozan, Lance Stephenson, and Wesley Matthews are battling for the 2nd spot.

Sybok
03-10-2014, 07:50 PM
i wonder if there is anybody on ST that enjoys arguing as much as you and I do

Probably not. Most people have real lives.

D-Wade
05-04-2015, 11:28 PM
"MVP Candidate" James Harden... getting bent over by a CP3-less Clippers team who just went the distance with the champs :lmao