Andrew Wiggins is gonna be a star

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

They might not win today against WVU.. but he is the sole reason they even had a chance at the end.. His stat line with 20 secs left: 41 points, 8 rebs, 2 assists, 5 steals, 4 blocks with Embild (or however you spell his name) not playing

If anyone takes Parker or Embild first they are making a huge mistake

[Killakobe81]

They might not win today against WVU.. but he is the sole reason they even had a chance at the end.. His stat line with 20 secs left: 41 points, 8 rebs, 2 assists, 5 steals, 4 blocks with Embild (or however you spell his name) not playing

If anyone takes Parker or Embild first they are making a huge mistake

HE will get the chance to change that narrative with his play inthe big 12 and NCAA tournaments.
I still have my doubts on him, but I still say you pick him or Embid first since they have the most trade value.
Kid will be a star but true Lebron/Durant superstar?! Doubtful.
He is more Paul George.

[CitizenDwayne]

You would have to be nuts to pick Embiid over Wiggins...

[djohn2oo8]

:lol Wiggins

[JohnnyMax]

Quick second jump similar to Blake Griffin. Helps him get putbacks and offensive rebounds.

[Killakobe81]

Quick second jump similar to Blake Griffin. Helps him get putbacks and offensive rebounds.

That is the level star I think he will be never the #1 battiling for the #3 spot much like Blake 5 years in ...
none of these dudes are durant/Lebron level

[Raven]

is that supposed to be some revelation?

[kobe4life]

Him or Embid is going to look great playing next to God. Once the Lakers get their top pick and with God's resurgence the league better watch out. High chance the Lakers win the title next year in 2015.

[lefty]

Him or Embid is going to look great playing next to God. Once the Lakers get their top pick and with God's resurgence the league better watch out. High chance the Lakers win the title next year in 2015.
I love that troll tbh

[Thebesteva]

They might not win today against WVU.. but he is the sole reason they even had a chance at the end.. His stat line with 20 secs left: 41 points, 8 rebs, 2 assists, 5 steals, 4 blocks with Embild (or however you spell his name) not playing

If anyone takes Parker or Embild first they are making a huge mistake

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132106/3615478-ngbbs503e1c2f49d31.jpg

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132106/3615478-ngbbs503e1c2f49d31.jpg

I think the majority of posters can agree with me on the fact that the more you post, the more apparent it is that you are an only child.

[LkrFan]

I think Exum will be a better pro. Here he is balling against the likes of Jabari Parker, Randle, etc.:

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He has elite size for a PG (6'6") and has the frame to pack on a few pounds to also be able to play SG. Later in his career he'll even be able play SF as well.

He graduated from High School in November and has been working on his game with Kobe's trainer - not to mention he signed with Kobe's agent. He's also rumored to have been seen court side at Laker games.

We've gone all in on the tank mode. I'm hoping we go no better than 3-16 the rest of the way to virtually cement our chances of having a top 3 pick. This kid will not go any worse than #4 overall. Hopefully he pulls a Kobe and tells teams he'll only play for the Lakers. :)

[LkrFan]

They might not win today against WVU.. but he is the sole reason they even had a chance at the end.. His stat line with 20 secs left: 41 points, 8 rebs, 2 assists, 5 steals, 4 blocks with Embild (or however you spell his name) not playing

If anyone takes Parker or Embild first they are making a huge mistakeHe was given a D-Whistleesque amount of freebies to get his numbers. Yawn.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

He was given a D-Whistleesque amount of freebies to get his numbers. Yawn.

Those whistles sure did contribute to 12-18 shooting, 5 steals and 4 blocks

[LkrFan]

Those whistles sure did contribute to 12-18 shooting, 5 steals and 4 blocks
18 shots is his official shot count. The extraordinary amount of freebies suggest he missed several, but was awarded anyway ala D-Whistle. Chuck E Wiggins.

[noob cake]

Those whistles sure did contribute to 12-18 shooting, 5 steals and 4 blocks

You know this kid is shooting sub 40% near the rim right? He literally has no finishing skills. Once in a blue moon, he plays a good game, and his supporters blow his performance out of proportion. Wiggins was getting touch fouls today. Even on Durant's best days, he doesn't get as many weak calls as Wiggins got last night.

Just read this to see how badly has been playing this year. Only morons like Wiggins and his school hype.

http://deanondraft.com/2014/02/14/andrew-wiggins-an-ordinary-player-in-an-extraordinary-body/

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You know this kid is shooting sub 40% near the rim right? He literally has no finishing skills. Once in a blue moon, he plays a good game, and his supporters blow his performance out of proportion. Wiggins was getting touch fouls today. Even on Durant's best days, he doesn't get as many weak calls as Wiggins got last night.

Just read this to see how badly has been playing this year. Only morons like Wiggins and his school hype.

http://deanondraft.com/2014/02/14/andrew-wiggins-an-ordinary-player-in-an-extraordinary-body/

Don't be ridiculous. That's called a "superstar treatment" and I hate to break it to you bro, but that's pretty much how your shooting guard became a "superstar".

That's a part of the game now. LeBron, Durant, Harden, Westbrook all get them. If he can translate it in the NBA, he will become successful before you know it.

He's not like LeBron.. he's not going to come out immediately and go for 20-7-5. But in three years we literally could be seeing a top five player in him.

[noob cake]

Don't be ridiculous. That's called a "superstar treatment" and I hate to break it to you bro, but that's pretty much how your shooting guard became a "superstar".

That's a part of the game now. LeBron, Durant, Harden, Westbrook all get them. If he can translate it in the NBA, he will become successful before you know it.

He's not like LeBron.. he's not going to come out immediately and go for 20-7-5. But in three years we literally could be seeing a top five player in him.

Yeah, James Harden could literally become Michael Jordan in 3 years.

Oh wait, that is never going to happen. Non-existent skills can't become elite ones.

[kobe4life]

I can guarantee Wiggins will become a superstar if he ends up with the Lakers because he will be tutored by God on how to win. With God by his side Wiggins will become unstoppable but if he plays with another team he will be just an above average player and nothing more.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Yeah, James Harden could literally become Michael Jordan in 3 years.

Oh wait, that is never going to happen. Non-existent skills can't become elite ones.

The only thing more clear of your saltiness is that you have never watched this guy play. To say he's not going to become a great player is one thing. To question his skills altogether is another.

[Venti Quattro]

Jabari Parker

[noob cake]

The only thing more clear of your saltiness is that you have never watched this guy play. To say he's not going to become a great player is one thing. To question his skills altogether is another.

Wiggins has no offensive skills in the sense that his skills are non-existent compared to generational talents gets picked top 3. Don't kid yourself. You obviously don't follow college basketball if you think he does.

Wiggins is merely athletic and elite defensive potential.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wiggins has no offensive skills in the sense that his skills are non-existent compared to generational talents gets picked top 3. Don't kid yourself. You obviously don't follow college basketball if you think he does.

Wiggins is merely athletic and elite defensive potential.

His jumpshot is about as consistent as LeBron's was going out of St. Mary's give or take. Players develop. Potential is also a concept you must put into the factor. Not just his skills now.

[noob cake]

His jumpshot is about as consistent as LeBron's was going out of St. Mary's give or take. Players develop. Potential is also a concept you must put into the factor. Not just his skills now.

Yeah, LeBron could play PG in the NBA. Wiggins can't dribble the ball without turning it over. Inconsistent jumpshot, inability to finish, has weak handles. What does he do well again? Jump high, run fast?

We got Gerald Green for that.

[Rogue]

I can guarantee Wiggins will become a superstar if he ends up with the Lakers because he will be tutored by God on how to win. With God by his side Wiggins will become unstoppable but if he plays with another team he will be just an above average player and nothing more.
Wiggins is like a Great Satan type of player imho, dude ain't having much to learn from God. He and God will complement each other pretty well but I think Wiggins will have to count on himself to improve his game tbh.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Yeah, LeBron could play PG in the NBA. Wiggins can't dribble the ball without turning it over. Inconsistent jumpshot, inability to finish, has weak handles. What does he do well again? Jump high, run fast?

We got Gerald Green for that.

:rolleyes

[POPownsJackson]

wiggins is tlak like bitch he no have cokyness or confidence in his game.

[AchillesHeel]

Wiggins has no offensive skills in the sense that his skills are non-existent compared to generational talents gets picked top 3. Don't kid yourself. You obviously don't follow college basketball if you think he does.

Wiggins is merely athletic and elite defensive potential.

And what was MJ as a freshman? Pure athletic talent with average shooting skills, just like Wiggins right now. It doesn't mean Wiggins will be another MJ, but he has the physical tools to be the best SG in the league. He can draw fouls & finish fast breaks easily, great defensive fundamentals, quick feet, decent rebounding ability, he can shoot the 3 at an average clip as well. MJ didn't have elite shooting ability as a freshman and averaged 2 apg in his 101 college games, if you purely looked at his stats you wouldn't see some kind of GOAT potential, just a very athletic wing with medicore shooting ability, though he did shoot 44% from 3 on 2 attempts one year. But if you look at his game most of his buckets were dunks & layups, he would just catch the ball & drive, you didn't see the elite playmaking that he had in the NBA.
The only reason people are down on Wiggins is because he didn't live up to the media's hype in terms of being some outworldly talent that would destroy everyone right off the bat.

The shooting form is there, from the looks of it he will be a decent shooter, the athletic tools are obviously there, the defense is there, the finishing ability is there, he just needs to work on his ballhandling & perfect his shot & he will easily be an elite SG/SF.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuMHNesNPQU

His form looks like a hybrid of Steve Blake/Jodie Meeks, can't see why he wouldn't be a good enough shooter in the pros when he perfects his form.

[Mal]

Saw this game. Kid is raw, and already getting tons of whistles.

[noob cake]

And what was MJ as a freshman? Pure athletic talent with average shooting skills, just like Wiggins right now. It doesn't mean Wiggins will be another MJ, but he has the physical tools to be the best SG in the league. He can draw fouls & finish fast breaks easily, great defensive fundamentals, quick feet, decent rebounding ability, he can shoot the 3 at an average clip as well. MJ didn't have elite shooting ability as a freshman and averaged 2 apg in his 101 college games, if you purely looked at his stats you wouldn't see some kind of GOAT potential, just a very athletic wing with medicore shooting ability, though he did shoot 44% from 3 on 2 attempts one year. But if you look at his game most of his buckets were dunks & layups, he would just catch the ball & drive, you didn't see the elite playmaking that he had in the NBA.
The only reason people are down on Wiggins is because he didn't live up to the media's hype in terms of being some outworldly talent that would destroy everyone right off the bat.

The shooting form is there, from the looks of it he will be a decent shooter, the athletic tools are obviously there, the defense is there, the finishing ability is there, he just needs to work on his ballhandling & perfect his shot & he will easily be an elite SG/SF.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuMHNesNPQU

His form looks like a hybrid of Steve Blake/Jodie Meeks, can't see why he wouldn't be a good enough shooter in the pros when he perfects his form.

Mostly right, except the finishing ability is not there. He is finishing ~40% on the year, extremely alarming and mediocre.

Everything you mentioned boiled down to potential (ie skills that do not exist today, but might come later)? Why the double standards? Why not LaVine or Gordon? Gordon is arguably more athletic than Wiggins and more elite defensively.

[RsxPiimp]

4 points 4 turnovers on the biggest game of his college career :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

4 points 4 turnovers on the biggest game of his college career :lol
Called it.

[kobe4life]

Andrew is raw but if the Lakers pick him he will be a superstar on the same level as Durant or Lebron. The reason for this is because he will have God teaching and training him on how to be a great player. Under God's tutelage Wiggins will be unstoppable.

[ColinB]

http://i.imgur.com/xOdAfts.png

[Clipper Nation]

:lol This has to be one of the most overrated draft classes of all time... :lmao Lakerfan getting their hopes up for this shit

[StrengthAndHonor]

Called it.
Dude just doesn't have the drive. Typical beta tbh. Gonna have an exciting rookie year though.

[Michael Jordan.]

lefty needs to get in here and spin dis shit

[lefty]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) needs to get in here and spin dis shit
non issue


Duncan got dominated by fucking Orstertag in summer league

[Clipper Nation]

Dude just doesn't have the drive. Typical beta tbh. Gonna have an exciting rookie year though.

It's not even being a "beta" or lacking "drive," Wiggins just doesn't have the handles and playmaking skills to take over games the way he was expected to, and he sucks against zone defenses.... when his jump shot isn't falling, he becomes very limited in the half court....

Wiggins is very flawed and a loooong way off from being "the next LeBron," he'll most likely never even come close :lol

[Splits]

http://i.minus.com/ivffkPUpD0CID.gif

[poeticism707]

Yeah, James Harden could literally become Michael Jordan in 3 years.

Oh wait, that is never going to happen. Non-existent skills can't become elite ones.

Much props for honesty.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) needs to get in here and spin dis shit

read my post in the march madness thread homie

[lefty]

THe good news : no more Kansas games on TSN this season :lol

[Clipper Nation]

read my post in the march madness thread homie
You mean the one where you had the bright idea for an inefficient bricklayer like Kirby to teach Wiggins how to shoot? :lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Is he good? Can the Lakers get him?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You mean the one where you had the bright idea for an inefficient bricklayer like Kirby to teach Wiggins how to shoot? :lol

That's not what I said..

[GuerillaBlack]

Needs to really stay another year. His rookie year will be bad imo.

[Seventyniner]

http://i.minus.com/ivffkPUpD0CID.gif

This belongs in every thread. gif of the year candidate.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Tonight with 21 points 8-10 shooting in the third.

He has been on a tear lately. Last 5 games: 24 points, 5 rebounds, 3 dimes a game shooting 50/56/93 from the field.

January stats: 21 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assist, 2 steals per game shooting 49/36/87 from the field

:lol Cavs



He's not like LeBron.. he's not going to come out immediately and go for 20-7-5. But in three years we literally could be seeing a top five player in him.

Scrub with the goods..

[313]

Wasn't that impressed with him college but it's good to see him developing quickly. The more stars in the league the better. As long as they don't treat him like LeBron and call him the next MJ.

[Raven]

not surprised at all. i'm just impressed how dumb can cleveland be.

[spurraider21]

best part about Wiggins is that he goes 100% on both ends, which isn't a common trait among young players. he's developing much quicker than anybody really expected offensively. good thing for the league. its never a bad thing to have more emerging stars. could you imagine having Wiggins and Kawhi on the wing together :lol

[ambchang]

Still needs to work on his shot selection. Too many long twos. Either go three or drive to the basket more. He's too quick to be checked effectively by one guy so he will be trapped a lot. The next step is working on his vision and passing.

[m>s]

I was literally the only person on the board who said it was a terrible trade. Why would you put a slow big who is terrible defensively on a team with kyrie irving and Lebron James? Those guys should be getting out and pushing the ball sometimes in transition, and need a defensive anchor since neither are post players. Kevin love absolutely doesn't fit those criteria. At least rigging would play D and get out on the break with those two.

[Clipper Nation]

Tonight with 21 points 8-10 shooting in the third.

He has been on a tear lately. Last 5 games: 24 points, 5 rebounds, 3 dimes a game shooting 50/56/93 from the field.

January stats: 21 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assist, 2 steals per game shooting 49/36/87 from the field

:lol Cavs



Scrub with the goods..
Are you seriously patting yourself on the back for predicting that the first overall pick would be a star? :lol

Even now, he's still a long way off from fulfilling the "next LeBron" hype.

[m>s]

^wouldnt have to be the next Lebron, could have learned under his wing and won a few rings before taking the reigns as Lebron ages. But they traded him for kevin scrub rofl.

[dirk4mvp]

Tonight with 21 points 8-10 shooting in the third.

He has been on a tear lately. Last 5 games: 24 points, 5 rebounds, 3 dimes a game shooting 50/56/93 from the field.

January stats: 21 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assist, 2 steals per game shooting 49/36/87 from the field

:lol Cavs



Scrub with the goods..


:lol cam > Luck

[Franklin]

trading future franchise player for one-year rental of a stat-padder named Kevin Love :lol shitty franchise being shitty, tbh.

[Spurs9]

I was literally the only person on the board who said it was a terrible trade. Why would you put a slow big who is terrible defensively on a team with kyrie irving and Lebron James? Those guys should be getting out and pushing the ball sometimes in transition, and need a defensive anchor since neither are post players. Kevin love absolutely doesn't fit those criteria. At least rigging would play D and get out on the break with those two.
You weren't the only one, I said it too. K-Loves states were always overblown because of the crappy team he was on.

[Aztecfan03]

You weren't the only one, I said it too. K-Loves states were always overblown because of the crappy team he was on.

there were many who didn't like it. Or i guess did like it because it meant the Cavs would be worse and not a threat in the Finals.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Midway through the third he has 23 points (10-15) being guarded by LeBron