Real Talk: Is Kobe jealous of Meeks?

[poeticism707]

Sitting on the sideliness, in his rocking chair, watching the young Meeks go Kobe on the soon to be MVP candidate himself...

:rollin:rollin:rollinBroken Mamba

[HemisfairArena]

Its gonna be funny when the Lakers big free agent signing in the off season will be signing Meeks to a bloated contract because that's all Buss Jr. and Kupchak could get.

[irishock]

You're left with 2 choices: Leave now or get Dale'd. Hemisfair chose the 2nd option and look at what happened.

[Clipper Nation]

Meeks didn't "go Kirby" - he was actually efficient :lol

[poeticism707]

Its gonna be funny when the Lakers big free agent signing in the off season will be signing Meeks to a bloated contract because that's all Buss Jr. and Kupchak could get.

:lolJeannie's grape fruit brain
:lolMitch thinking Howard on Wilt's level
:lolKirby thinking he's Lance Armstrong

[poeticism707]

Meeks didn't "go Kirby" - he was actually efficient :lol

Too true it is, too true.

[Thread]

Its gonna be funny when the Lakers big free agent signing in the off season will be signing Meeks to a bloated contract because that's all Buss Jr. and Kupchak could get.

Though without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-back.

[HemisfairArena]

Though without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-back.

How so? Are you saying Pau Gasol was the savior(even though Buss Sr. and West/Wallace in Memphis got that deal done) and carried Kobrick? But I digress....I hope Buss Jr. stays owner of the Lakers for many future generations. How can any anti-Laker fan hope for anything different.

[Clipper Nation]

Though without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-back.

Though the back-to-back was due to MVPau, Bynum, Ronnie Lester, and Jerry Buss, not Fredo.

[Sybok]

Dale logic:

Without Jim Buss Lakers are light 2 rings.

Pau never won a playoff game prior to Kobe

Jim Buss did not draft nor hire Kobe

Somewhere in all this is Andy Bynum, but Dale obscures that in the details.

[Clipper Nation]

Somewhere in all this is Andy Bynum, but Dale obscures that in the details.

Dale insists that Fredo drafted Bynum even though all the evidence suggests that Ronnie Lester (who Fredo later fired) was the one who actually insisted on him, tbh....

[LkrFan]

Meeks didn't "go Kirby" - he was actually efficient :lol

Meeks, Farmar, Bazemore and Caveman are the only bench players I want to return next year tbh. Meeks has been a pleasant surprise. I am afraid we won't be able to retain him though.

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Dale insists that Fredo drafted Bynum even though all the evidence suggests that Ronnie Lester (who Fredo later fired) was the one who actually insisted on him, tbh....

That was only AFTER it was proven Bynum constituted a back-to-back. Then Media wanted to reshape the sequence to get right with the facts. Same thing when Kobe ran Bynum off and Jim Buss went and brought him back and insisted he stay. Then Media wanted to make light of it. Once he rang twice Media wanted no more to do with that story. That was verbotenPERIOD

[Clipper Nation]

That was only AFTER it was proven Bynum constituted a back-to-back. Then Media wanted to reshape the sequence to get right with the facts.
Ronnie Lester drafted BynumPERIOD

[Clipper Nation]

Same thing when Kobe ran Bynum off and Jim Buss went and brought him back and insisted he stay.
But, Fredo wanted to trade Bynum for Carmelo.

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Ronnie Lester drafted BynumPERIOD

You're full of shit.

[Sybok]

That was only AFTER it was proven Bynum constituted a back-to-back. Then Media wanted to reshape the sequence to get right with the facts. Same thing when Kobe ran Bynum off and Jim Buss went and brought him back and insisted he stay. Then Media wanted to make light of it. Once he rang twice Media wanted no more to do with that story. That was verbotenPERIOD

I take it back. Holy cow! Dude is so tall he doesn't even have to jump to outrebound the suns front line or to get a shot up. How did you guys get him?


Mitch drafted him, and then when everybody was badgering him to trade Bynum--Mitch put them on his to ignore list.

[LkrFan]

But, Fredo wanted to trade Bynum for Carmelo.

Fredo didn't even want to trade him for KG IIRC. -15 points for lunacy. :lol

[LkrFan]

Ronnie Lester drafted BynumPERIOD
When was Ronnie Lester the GM? I missed the memo. -15 more p:lolints son. SMH

[LkrFan]

Dale insists that Fredo drafted Bynum even though all the evidence suggests that Ronnie Lester (who Fredo later fired) was the one who actually insisted on him, tbh....


Ronnie Lester drafted BynumPERIOD

[LkrFan]

Toenail Clipper Nation got some xplaining to do. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Fredo didn't even want to trade him for KG IIRC. -15 points for lunacy. :lol
http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=6101304&city=losangeles&src=desktop

When was Ronnie Lester the GM? I missed the memo. -15 more p:lolints son. SMH

He (Lester) was the first Lakers employee to scout Andrew Bynum back at the McDonald's All-American camp in 2005 and the loudest Lakers employee to recommend the chubby 7-foot, 275-pound high school center from New Jersey with the 10th overall pick in the 2005 draft.

"After the workout, I called Mitch … and told him 'If he's there at 10, I don't know how you can pass the guy up.'"

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=6732871&city=losangeles&src=desktop

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Without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-backPERIOD

[LkrFan]

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=6101304&city=losangeles&src=desktop



Ronnie Lester drafted BynumPERIOD

I wasn't aware that scouts drafted players. -15 more points son.

Now, they fucked up by firing Lester, but he didn't draft Bynum. He merely did his job as a scout.

[poeticism707]

Without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-backPERIOD

Nevermind hijacking my thread.

This thread, Thread: is about poor Kirby, seeing red after Meeks hitting the target so much, and so often today against OKC.

That's what Meeks did today, and it pisses of Kirby all the more: he set trends.

[HemisfairArena]

Without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-backPERIOD

With him.. you're light a future...no denying that since the horse whisperer has not shown any talent at building a team from scratch. When Howard bolts for Houston and KLove says Minnesota is a better place to be....you're in trouble. We're not talking about the Utah Jazz trying to land these guys....it's the Lakers and they are failing miserably.

[Thread]

Nevermind hijacking my thread.

This thread, Thread: is about poor Kirby, seeing red after Meeks hitting the target so much, and so often today against OKC.

That's what Meeks did today, and it pisses of Kirby all the more: he set trends.

How do you know that, EAP? Or, are you just squattin' on the plain?

[Clipper Nation]

I wasn't aware that scouts drafted players. -15 more points son.

Now, they fucked up by firing Lester, but he didn't draft Bynum. He merely did his job as a scout.

Lester insisted on Bynum when nobody else believed in himPERIOD

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With him.. you're light a future...no denying that since the horse whisperer has not shown any talent at building a team from scratch. When Howard bolts for Houston and KLove says Minnesota is a better place to be....you're in trouble. We're not talking about the Utah Jazz trying to land these guys....it's the Lakers and they are failing miserably.

I like to look backwards, Hemi. I enjoy butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's me. Call me crazy, call me a pervert.

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Lester insisted on Bynum when nobody else believed in himPERIOD

No. It was Jim Buss who insisted on drafting him and Jim Buss who insisted that Kobe not run him off.

Let us proceed...

[Clipper Nation]

No. It was Jim Buss who insisted on drafting him
Wrong, it was Lester, end of discussion.

[Thread]

Wrong, it was Lester, end of discussion.

You're wrong, daddy-O. It was Jim Buss. Ipso facto:::without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-back.

Let us proceed...

[djohn2oo8]

Though without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-back.
Without Phil, you're 5 light.

[poeticism707]

How do you know that, EAP? Or, are you just squattin' on the plain?


Come now, we both have been watching basketball long enough to know: Kirby is one of the greatest competitors the NBA has ever seen.

If you think watching some young bull score 42, while wearing the purple and gold, and beat the best team in the NBA, and the likely MVP to boot...

Again, if you think that doesn't piss Kirby off something fierce, then it's time to admit you to that retirement village old man, as you are getting senile, tbqh...

[Clipper Nation]

You're wrong, daddy-O. It was Jim Buss. Ipso facto:::without Jim Buss we're light a back-to-back.

Let us proceed...
Nope, it was Lester. Meanwhile, Chazz, The Sweep, The Begging, The Rejection, The Tank, & 48 have all happened under Fredo's watch. Ipso facto:::with Fredo, you're light a future.

Let us proceed...

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Come now, we both have been watching basketball to know: Kirby is one of the greatest competitors has ever seen.

If you think watching some young bull score 42, while wearing the white and gold, and beat the best team in the NBA, and the likely MVP to boot...

Again, if you think that doesn't piss Kirby off something fierce, then it's time to admit you to that retirement village old man, as you are getting senile, tbqh...

Boiled down:::

Squattin' on the plain.:rolleyes

[Clipper Nation]

Kirby is one of the greatest competitors has ever seen.
He's great at pretending to be a competitor with his tough guy routine, overbite/mean-mugging, media manipulation, and fake/exaggerated injuries, but he has quit on his team way too many times to be "one of the greatest competitors ever" :lol

[HemisfairArena]

I like to look backwards, Hemi. I enjoy butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's me. Call me crazy, call me a pervert.

Hey....I get it. I met a woman in Bangkok that could pick up a quarter stuck in the crack of a table with her....well....nevermind...bottomline..we are married now. Two kids and the rest is history. Still....fact remains..Buss Jr. sucks as an owner.

[poeticism707]

He's great at pretending to be a competitor with his tough guy routine, overbite/mean-mugging, media manipulation, and fake/exaggerated injuries, but he has quit on his team way too many times to be "one of the greatest competitors ever" :lol

I hate the Lakers as much as anyone, but you have to give Kirby his due. Second greatest player of his generation, behind TD. Shaq would could easily be first or second, if he gave a crap about staying in shape.

Dems the breaks.

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Hey....I get it. I met a woman in Bangkok that could pick up a quarter stuck in the crack of a table with her....well....nevermind...bottomline..we are married now. Two kids and the rest is history. Still....fact remains..Buss Jr. sucks as an owner.

Though without him we're light a back-to-back. I don't take back-to-backs lightly or for granted even though we've had 3 since the century turned.

[Sybok]

Though without him we're light a back-to-back. I don't take back-to-backs lightly or for granted even though we've had 3 since the century turned.

That's ironic Dale, seeing how you gave Boston 3 back-to-back championship runs, in the same decade.

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That's ironic Dale, seeing how you gave Boston 3 back-to-back championship runs, in the same decade.

There you go being an asshole again. You have promise, Sy, but, you're too much the eager beaver.

[Sybok]

There you go being an asshole again. You have promise, Sy, but, you're too much the eager beaver.

But you did. If you want to hear the band, you have to pay the man.... and Sy is the man.

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But you did. If you want to hear the band, you have to pay the man.... and Sy is the man.

You're comparing asses to elbows, idiot. Now quit bothering me. It's Sunday and I'm winding down.

[Sybok]

You're comparing asses to elbows, idiot. Now quit bothering me. It's Sunday and I'm winding down.

You say you don't take back-to-backs lightly, yet you gave up 3 in 10 years. That happened before you were even a Lakers fan and you still adopted the team knowing they did that. You cannot take it much more lightly than that.

You're a man of words, but not of convictions.

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You say you don't take back-to-backs lightly, yet you gave up 3 in 10 years. That happened before you were even a Lakers fan and you still adopted the team knowing they did that. You cannot take it much more lightly than that.

You're a man of words, but not of convictions.

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[Indazone]

lol @ Jodie Meeks going off for 42 on the Thunder.


plw6s6pk5jU

[ambchang]

Not surprised Meeks can go off for 42 in a game. I mean, MVPau just makes life so much easier for perimeter players.

Look at it this year, even Nick Young averaged about 17 ppg, and his per 36 is almost 2 points more than his previous career high.

And Meeks? He's averaging over 15 ppg, while his previous career high was a little over 10 ppg, and his per 36 is almost 3 points over his previous career high.

Then there's Kent Bazemore, averaging almost 15 ppg since joining the Lakers when he was averaging 2.3 ppg with the warriors, in the same year!

MVPau has made life so much easier for his perimeter teammates, just the ultimate teammate for them. If you are a perimeter player and want to get a good contract, sign a one year deal playing next to MVPau, stack up great stats, then sign for an inflated deal and be set for the rest of your career.

[Blake]

Why would Kobe be jealous?

Is Meeks going out with Vanessa I asssssssssked

[Sportcamper]

Meanwhile, Chazz, The Sweep, The Begging, The Rejection, The Tank, & 48 have all happened under Fredo's watch. Ipso facto:::with Fredo, you're light a future.

Let us proceed...

That hurts...:lol

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Not surprised Meeks can go off for 42 in a game. I mean, MVPau just makes life so much easier for perimeter players.

Pau just can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.

[ambchang]

Pau just can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.

Beats not getting in the playoffs.

And what do you know about helping your teammates? You Kool betraying chickenshit.

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Beats not getting in the playoffs.

And what do you know about helping your teammates? You Kool betraying chickenshit.

I made The House of Ellis shake, daddy-O, made 'em think twice. made 'em yelp "uncle."

Let us proceed...

[whitemamba]

Pau just can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.

Spur fans deny stats when they go against them.

[Clipper Nation]

Pau just can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.
Yet, MVPau found Kirby shining shoes.

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Yet, MVPau found Kirby shining shoes.

Though without Kobe Pau has never won a single playoff game.

ha, ha.

[Clipper Nation]

Though without Kobe Pau has never won a single playoff game.

ha, ha.
And yet, Kirby had the shoe shine out and was shinin' without Daddy or MVPau to carry him.

[Thread]

And yet, Kirby had the shoe shine out and was shinin' without Daddy or MVPau to carry him.

& you was last in for the last can of Kiwi & the 29th brush. You sat on top of dj and rotated.

[ambchang]

I made The House of Ellis shake, daddy-O, made 'em think twice. made 'em yelp "uncle."

Let us proceed...

You are just making things up.

[ambchang]

Spur fans deny stats when they go against them.

LOL, using team stats in evaluating a player.

Lakerfan logic, Kobe from 2005 to 2007 is worse than 2008 to 2010 Kobe because he played with dominant bigs and teammates hauled him to championships.

[Thread]

You are just making things up.

Kool is still here. Ipso facto I'm still here. You ain't got the sack to shoot a woodchuck.

LMVICTORIOUSAO!!!

[whitemamba]

LOL, using team stats in evaluating a player.

Lakerfan logic, Kobe from 2005 to 2007 is worse than 2008 to 2010 Kobe because he played with dominant bigs and teammates hauled him to championships.

I'll give it to Shaq no question, but Pau, no sir. Pau is not an alpha male, he is a great player , very skilled and talented, but he had gone no where without Kobe "holding" his hand.

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LOL, using team stats in evaluating a player.

Lakerfan logic, Kobe from 2005 to 2007 is worse than 2008 to 2010 Kobe because he played with dominant bigs and teammates hauled him to championships.

You had 5 and fucked up.

In the fucking case, sweetheart. Gone, poof!!!

Back to 4. Get on your hands. Get on those knees. Now,

Crawl, motherfucker, crawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ambchang]

Kool is still here. Ipso facto I'm still here. You ain't got the sack to shoot a woodchuck.

LMVICTORIOUSAO!!!

:lol, letting Kool standing all alone and refused to take a bullet for him. I'm positive no one will be banned, and that it was a troll job by DPG to expose you guys. Guess what? it worked.


You had 5 and fucked up.

In the fucking case, sweetheart. Gone, poof!!!

Back to 4. Get on your hands. Get on those knees. Now,

Crawl, motherfucker, crawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure how this has anything to do with anything we are talking about, but we know you are reduced to this whenever you have no point.

[ambchang]

I'll give it to Shaq no question, but Pau, no sir. Pau is not an alpha male, he is a great player , very skilled and talented, but he had gone no where without Kobe "holding" his hand.

Not sure how this has to do with what we are talking about.

Now answer this, was 2005 to 2007 Kobe better, or was 2008 to 2010 Kobe better?

[whitemamba]

Not sure how this has to do with what we are talking about.

Now answer this, was 2005 to 2007 Kobe better, or was 2008 to 2010 Kobe better?

2008-2010... We won.

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:lol, letting Kool standing all alone and refused to take a bullet for him. I'm positive no one will be banned, and that it was a troll job by DPG to expose you guys. Guess what? it worked.

Sure, you can claim that now that I made the House of Ellis and their toadie blink, but, the fact remains once I put my ass on the line and told them under no uncertain terms that I would leave if they banned Kool it all came to stopPERIOD

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:lol, letting Kool standing all alone and refused to take a bullet for him. I'm positive no one will be banned, and that it was a troll job by DPG to expose you guys. Guess what? it worked.



Not sure how this has anything to do with anything we are talking about, but we know you are reduced to this whenever you have no point.

Then you shouldn't mind:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[ambchang]

2008-2010... We won.

LOL, that shows your supreme idiocy. Kobe was clearly a better player from 2005 to 2007. All statistics and casual observation shows as much.

Ignoring the change in the entire frontline and attributing the change in the Lakers from first round fodder (or non-playoff team) to a championship team to Kobe being better was just absolute stupidity.


Miami Payton > Sonics Payton
Houston Drexler > Portand Drexler
1999 to 2003 Robinson > 1990 to 1996 Robinson
Kobe suddenly got worse from 2005 to 2007 because he had to carry his own team and sucked at it

[ambchang]

Sure, you can claim that now that I made the House of Ellis and their toadie blink, but, the fact remains once I put my ass on the line and told them under no uncertain terms that I would leave if they banned Kool it all came to stopPERIOD

The House of Ellis hasn't shown up in months. You overstate your own status, just like you do to Kobe's.


Then you shouldn't mind:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Not really, because that's comparison individuals using team accomplishments, which is utterly stupid.

However I must admit, I do mind::
LA Lakers 11
SA Spurs 4

If just a little.

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The House of Ellis hasn't shown up in months. You overstate your own status

All you had to do to prove it is can Kool. But, the House of Ellis and their stooge backed away once I laid the law & gavel down.

lmvictoriousao!!!

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Not really, because that's comparison individuals using team accomplishments, which is utterly stupid.

Then you won't mind:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Blake]

"House of Ellis" is a very trendy moniker. I like it.

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"House of Ellis" is a very trendy moniker. I like it.

& well deserved. Is the House perfect, it's Mistress impeccable? No. There is no shame in that human trait. We all share it. They're not perfect as their arming & directing Deeps to foster Kool & myself's demise confirms their humanity. I take no offense. I saw thru the conspiracy & after hobnobbing with Kevin in an International phone communique with Lakaluva ran the conspiracy to ground & once again squared the house.

[ambchang]

All you had to do to prove it is can Kool. But, the House of Ellis and their stooge backed away once I laid the law & gavel down.

lmvictoriousao!!!

You know I can't ban Kool, that's why you are pulling that condition. Besides, this place rarely, if ever, ban anybody. But once DPG put out the conditions, you are too chickenshit to take up the challenge.

Hey, but what else is new? We all know you are chickenshit.


Then you won't mind:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

I already told you I don't mind at all. However, LA Lakers 11, Spurs 4 does sting, if only a little.

[poeticism707]

Not surprised Meeks can go off for 42 in a game. I mean, MVPau just makes life so much easier for perimeter players.

Look at it this year, even Nick Young averaged about 17 ppg, and his per 36 is almost 2 points more than his previous career high.

And Meeks? He's averaging over 15 ppg, while his previous career high was a little over 10 ppg, and his per 36 is almost 3 points over his previous career high.

Then there's Kent Bazemore, averaging almost 15 ppg since joining the Lakers when he was averaging 2.3 ppg with the warriors, in the same year!

MVPau has made life so much easier for his perimeter teammates, just the ultimate teammate for them. If you are a perimeter player and want to get a good contract, sign a one year deal playing next to MVPau, stack up great stats, then sign for an inflated deal and be set for the rest of your career.

This and this.

[poeticism707]

Why would Kobe be jealous?

Is Meeks going out with Vanessa I asssssssssked

:rollin

[poeticism707]

Pau just can't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.

And here I thought you always said it's title town or bust?

That there is the only the champion, and all the other losers?

If so, why would you care about Paul not winning a single playoff game?

Make up your mind, can't be straddling the fence, tbh...

[poeticism707]

Not sure how this has anything to do with anything we are talking about, but we know you are reduced to this whenever you have no point.

BINGO.

[whitemamba]

LOL, that shows your supreme idiocy. Kobe was clearly a better player from 2005 to 2007. All statistics and casual observation shows as much.

Ignoring the change in the entire frontline and attributing the change in the Lakers from first round fodder (or non-playoff team) to a championship team to Kobe being better was just absolute stupidity.

What kind of logic is this? If he was shooting more, passing less, and trying to do it on his own makes him better? I mean who was he going to pass to? Kwame? Smush? Cook? Stop amb. Gasol comes to la and becomes an all star, and kobe gets no credit? Are you telling me that the kobe who shot more, passed less and got eliminated from the playoffs twice , let's not forget that suns series... Is better than the kobe who passed more, trusted his teammates and won?

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You know I can't ban Kool, that's why you are pulling that condition. Besides, this place rarely, if ever, ban anybody. But once DPG put out the conditions, you are too chickenshit to take up the challenge.

Don't be obtuse. "You" tried to ban Kool & myself. We settled your hash by tacking me to the Tree of Woe and daring the House of Ellis to drive the nails. Mistress of the House wisely & demurely declined.

Nice try though. Next time?.....There'd just better not be a next time.

& I ain't fuckin' around.

[Killakobe81]

What a horrible thread. This place bemoans Kool, but counters with this shining example of hoops talk.

If Kobe was who cares?
Meeks scored 4o points for a bottom feeder.
Kobe not even playing for said bottom feeder.

Thread worthy?

[Killakobe81]

A-Yo Amb ...

“How you expect to run wit the wolves at night when you spend all day sparring wit the puppies?”

[Killakobe81]

Don't be obtuse. "You" tried to ban Kool & myself. We settled your hash by tacking me to the Tree of Woe and daring the House of Ellis to drive the nails. Mistress of the House wisely & demurely declined.

Nice try though. Next time?.....There'd just better not be a next time.

& I ain't fuckin' around.

Damn, thread dont let amb get to you he is of higher caliber than this but chooses to wallow in the mire and muck.

[Clipper Nation]

Damn, thread dont let amb get to you he is of higher caliber than this but chooses to wallow in the mire and muck.

Seems to me that he just speaks the truth about MVPau, and Kirbystan wants to dismiss it as "mire and muck" :downspin:

[Thread]

Damn, thread dont let amb get to you he is of higher caliber than this but chooses to wallow in the mire and muck.

In for penny.

In for pound.

[Thread]

Seems to me that he just speaks the truth about MVPau, and Kirbystan wants to dismiss it as "mire and muck" :downspin:

He's trying to rewrite history in the canning of Kool & myself.

uh, uh.

[Clipper Nation]

In for penny.

Amazing how it's "in for penny" when it's time to spam The Count or 6, but it's "nary a cent" when Capri loses a bet :lol

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Amazing how it's "in for penny" when it's time to spam The Count or 6, but it's "nary a cent" when Capri loses a bet :lol

:rolleyes

[Clipper Nation]

:rolleyes
lmvictoriousao!!!

[Blake]

lmvictoriousao!!!

Trend setter sets trends not a dime in for penny/pound etc

[poeticism707]

Trend setter sets trends not a dime in for penny/pound etc

Nevermind our resident Troll. He's just in denial about Kirby's jealousy, and manic depressive nature.

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lmvictoriousao!!!

lmemulatedao!!!

[ambchang]

What kind of logic is this? If he was shooting more, passing less, and trying to do it on his own makes him better? I mean who was he going to pass to? Kwame? Smush? Cook? Stop amb. Gasol comes to la and becomes an all star, and kobe gets no credit? Are you telling me that the kobe who shot more, passed less and got eliminated from the playoffs twice , let's not forget that suns series... Is better than the kobe who passed more, trusted his teammates and won?

Once again, treating like Caron Butler and Lamar Odom never existed.

Kobe had teammates, not great teammates, but enough support to get a supposed top 10 player of all time to the playoffs, and now you are trying to say that Smush, Cook and Kwame were his only teammates? Please, just stop.

And since when is passing more and shooting less the sign of greatness? If that is the case, John Stockton is better than any player who ever played. I would like to have Muggsy Bogues on your all time team over Jordan, because Bogues "shot less and passed more".

If anything, that Suns series, in that game in particular where Kobe refused to shoot, showed the true character of Kobe, and whether he really valued winning over everything.

[ambchang]

Don't be obtuse. "You" tried to ban Kool & myself. We settled your hash by tacking me to the Tree of Woe and daring the House of Ellis to drive the nails. Mistress of the House wisely & demurely declined.

Nice try though. Next time?.....There'd just better not be a next time.

& I ain't fuckin' around.

Since when did I try to ban anyone? I don't have the authority nor do I have the desire. I voted ban Kool just to show that he was even LESS funny and brings in even LESS points than you do, which is a pretty hard thing to do to begin with.

[ambchang]

A-Yo Amb ...

“How you expect to run wit the wolves at night when you spend all day sparring wit the puppies?”

Hey, I am trying to extoll the values of MVPau, an important cog of two Laker championship, and then these supposed "Laker fans" come in try to undermine the importance of such a fantastic player. It's akin to someone coming in and saying Magic/Kareem/Worthy had no effect on the success of the 80s Lakers.

[Killakobe81]

Hey, I am trying to extoll the values of MVPau, an important cog of two Laker championship, and then these supposed "Laker fans" come in try to undermine the importance of such a fantastic player. It's akin to someone coming in and saying Magic/Kareem/Worthy had no effect on the success of the 80s Lakers.

You know what you doing Amb, dont play dumb.
But have fun, you like that ape in your avvy playing with his own feces having a good time slinging shit hoping it dont get stuck in your fur.

[poeticism707]

You know what you doing Amb, dont play dumb.
But have fun, you like that ape in your avvy playing with his own feces having a good time slinging shit hoping it dont get stuck in your fur.

:rollin:rollin:rollin

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I voted ban Kool

Your capitulation is duly noted.

Jesus Christ, it was like pulling fucking teeth.

[poeticism707]

Hey....I get it. I met a woman in Bangkok that could pick up a quarter stuck in the crack of a table with her....well....nevermind...bottomline..we are married now. Two kids and the rest is history. Still....fact remains..Buss Jr. sucks as an owner.

Go get em, tiger.

Laker fans don't know what hit 'em.

[ambchang]

You know what you doing Amb, dont play dumb.
But have fun, you like that ape in your avvy playing with his own feces having a good time slinging shit hoping it dont get stuck in your fur.

Of course I know what I am doing - telling the truth. And yet kobestans can't handle the truth. Merely singing the praises for a laker player apparently is slinging feces. I don't even know what to say. You know what? My favourite non spur player of all time is Magic, I suppose I am flinging feces just for satin that.

[ambchang]

Your capitulation is duly noted.

Jesus Christ, it was like pulling fucking teeth.

Ironic coming from someone who like to tell others don't be purposely obtuse.

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Ironic coming from someone who like to tell others don't be purposely obtuse.

You confessed.

You've only yourself to blame.

[ambchang]

You confessed.

You've only yourself to blame.

Confessed what? And what is there to confess in the first place?

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Confessed what? And what is there to confess in the first place?

Your regrets are your own.

I've no sympathy for you.

[ambchang]

Your regrets are your own.

I've no sympathy for you.

It's pretty obvious I have no regrets with regards to the topic at hand.

But regardless, we should be celebrating the success of Meeks, but you and your kind are turning this into a Kobe thread.

So sad.

[Killakobe81]

It's pretty obvious I have no regrets with regards to the topic at hand.

But regardless, we should be celebrating the success of Meeks, but you and your kind are turning this into a Kobe thread.

So sad.

OP made it about Kobe.
Why not leave Bryant out if we were celebrating Meeks?

[ambchang]

OP made it about Kobe.
Why not leave Bryant out if we were celebrating Meeks?

Great point. That's why I tried to steer the conversation away from Kobe, and have it focus on Meeks and MVPau in general. Just two great Lakers in an otherwise miserable season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

isnt meeks and marshall all on 1yr contracts?

lol fakers only has 15m free capspace...

no way these 2 clowns will sign for anything less than nba minimum

[poeticism707]

isnt meeks and marshall all on 1yr contracts?

lol fakers only has 15m free capspace...

no way these 2 clowns will sign for anything less than nba minimum

True.

Meeks is definately getting more than the min.

Lakers pay up the big bucks, it it eats into that cap.