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spurraider21
03-09-2014, 07:51 PM
:lol having the most cap space in NFL history
:lol not franchising tagging either of your best players when your roster sucks
:lol jared veldheer reuniting with Carson Palmer
:lol he signed for 7-7.5 million per year
:lol you replaced him with fucking Rodger Saffold
:lol Saffold is getting MORE than Veldheer got
:lol Reggie McKenzie
:lol "Packers West"
:lol 3 years of eating dead contracts and clearing cap room just to let your only good players walk away
:lol Raiders

Clipper Nation
03-09-2014, 07:53 PM
Raiders are gonna fuck up with all that cap space :lmao
Raiders are so predictable :lol

spurraider21
03-09-2014, 07:54 PM
we literally could have paid less and kept veldheer, go signed for about 7 mil per year as i predicted he would get signed for. this makes no fucking sense

:lmao reggie mckenzie
:lmao worse than al davis

Holden_Caulfield
03-09-2014, 11:29 PM
we literally could have paid less and kept veldheer, go signed for about 7 mil per year as i predicted he would get signed for. this makes no fucking sense

:lmao reggie mckenzie
:lmao worse than al davis

:lmao going to draft manziel behind that "oline"

spurraider21
03-09-2014, 11:31 PM
:lmao going to draft manziel behind that "oline"
:lmao behind this shit line we might as well ride out Pryor for another year

Holden_Caulfield
03-09-2014, 11:37 PM
:lmao behind this shit line we might as well ride out Pryor for another year

and resign mcfadden :lol

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 12:05 AM
and resign mcfadden :lol
is lane kiffin available?

Avante
03-10-2014, 12:38 AM
The thing about the Raiders is all those change of possesion penalties. I've never seen a team have more totally stupid penalties at the worse possible time. And I;m not raggin' on them, I like the Raiders, they've had a lot of interesting
players. They need some discipline.

While here...

McFadden is too "delicate" to play big boy football.

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 12:43 AM
i don't envision a scenario where mcfadden returns. i'm just baffled by letting Veldheer walk... he was the best player on our roster, and we have all the cap room in the world, plus he signed a very fair deal with arizona. nothing adds up

Avante
03-10-2014, 12:52 AM
i don't envision a scenario where mcfadden returns. i'm just baffled by letting Veldheer walk... he was the best player on our roster, and we have all the cap room in the world, plus he signed a very fair deal with arizona. nothing adds up

What really sucks is you guys play in the best division in the AFC. With everyone but the Raiders having a QB. I'd love to see the silver and black come back but it's not looking good. The league is better when the Raiders are relevent.

Raven
03-10-2014, 04:52 AM
:lol "He wants to stay"

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 05:06 AM
:lol "He wants to stay"
they deserve any LOL in the book... i'd rather have signed him for 10 mil a year like that bogus report :lol

Raven
03-10-2014, 05:23 AM
they deserve any LOL in the book... i'd rather have signed him for 10 mil a year like that bogus report :lol

i would have defended them if they just took a wait and see approach, maybe sign some cheap dudes and then solve the problem in the draft, but signing saffold for the same money makes no sense tbh..

spurraider21
03-10-2014, 05:28 AM
i would have defended them if they just took a wait and see approach, maybe sign some cheap dudes and then solve the problem in the draft, but signing saffold for the same money makes no sense tbh..
reports say its more money than JV got :lmao

Raven
03-10-2014, 05:30 AM
reports say its more money than JV got :lmao

that's the "i have to play for the damned raiders" tax tbh :lol

Holden_Caulfield
03-11-2014, 02:54 PM
and resign mcfadden :lol

i don't envision a scenario where mcfadden returns. i'm just baffled by letting Veldheer walk... he was the best player on our roster, and we have all the cap room in the world, plus he signed a very fair deal with arizona. nothing adds up
:lmao :lmao at least its a one year deal for dmac

spurraider21
03-11-2014, 03:02 PM
:lmao :lmao at least its a one year deal for dmac
:lmao can we trade Reggie McKenzie for Jim Buss? He'd be a massive upgrade

MeloHype
03-11-2014, 08:58 PM
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spurraider21
03-11-2014, 10:55 PM
so... all this cap room, and on the first day of free agency, with guys like veldheer and houston leaving on pretty affordable deals (thought they'd get paid more), with guys like Verner signing for cheaper than originally thought, the raiders sit there with their thumbs up their ass, only signing Saffold and bringing back McFadden on a 1 year incentive laden deal. how the fuck are we gna fill up our roster :lol

are we gna have to overpay shitty scrubs just to reach the salary floor?

JMarkJohns
03-11-2014, 10:57 PM
Is Veldheer worth anything?

Not sure what to make of that signing.

spurraider21
03-11-2014, 11:08 PM
Is Veldheer worth anything?

Not sure what to make of that signing.
You guys got a really good deal. I'm in total shock that he wasn't brought back, especially considered the terms of the contract he signed. I'd understand if they let him walk because the market price was outrageous, but 7 mil per year is more than fair for him.

JMarkJohns
03-11-2014, 11:55 PM
Glad to hear it. I know he's coming off an injury, so I figured that helped keep value low, but I'm just so jaded with lineman signings/draftings from the Whisenhunt era that I see injured tackle sign to longer-term contract and I just automatically assume the worst.

Hoping he and Cooper (last years 1st-round OG) can really change the culture on the line.

Let's Arizona use it's 1st on defense, which it needs in either at linebacker (you mother fucker, Dansby), or CB.

JMarkJohns
03-12-2014, 12:02 AM
Schefter saying you got OT Austin from the Jets for 5/30.

spurraider21
03-12-2014, 12:15 AM
Yeah I recall the Cards drafted a guard in the first and he never got a chance to play. Sucks because O-line had already been their achilles heel and they actually addressed it, but didn't get to work out year 1. I think they'll be much improved. Palmer showed he can still throw well, but he requires a clean pocket. Word is Palmer personally vouched for Veldheer. With him and Cooper, they should look much better. They should look to draft a bell cow running back imo.

In other news, the Raider just signed Austin Howard, the Jets RT, and I have read really good things about him all offseason. I'm glad the Raiders did something with the line, but I'm still really shocked they actually let Veldheer slip away like that. Ram fans seem to think Saffold is good when healthy, but he's never healthy. It's also weird because we drafted a tackle in the 2nd round last year, and he was mostly hurt. I wonder if they're going to make Saffold just a really overpaid guard, where most say he is at his best anyway.

Chinook
03-12-2014, 12:17 AM
^ :lol Why would they give $14M per year to former Jets linemen?

spurraider21
03-12-2014, 12:17 AM
^ :lol Why would they give $14M per year to former Jets linemen?
6 mil per year

Chinook
03-12-2014, 01:34 AM
6 mil per year

Got Saffold and Jason Smith confused.

spurraider21
03-22-2014, 01:30 PM
:lmao Dennis Allen envisions schaub starting for a few years
:lmao says they don't need to draft a qb
:lmao stopgap theory gone wrong

Chinook
03-22-2014, 03:16 PM
:lmao stopgap theory gone wrong

Or smokescreen theory gone right...

spurraider21
03-22-2014, 03:19 PM
God I hope so

Michael Jordan.
03-23-2014, 08:00 PM
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Michael Jordan.
03-23-2014, 08:01 PM
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http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/lol_ASHTON_KUTCHER.gif

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:06 PM
paying him 15-20 mil over 2 years > paying him 24.5 over those 2 years. not sure why lol-worthy. i doubt they were gna cut him after 1 season anyway

Clipper Nation
03-23-2014, 08:07 PM
paying him 15-20 mil over 2 years > paying him 24.5 over those 2 years. not sure why lol-worthy. i doubt they were gna cut him after 1 season anyway

Paying any money at all for that pick-six machine and trading a draft pick for him is very LOL-worthy :lol

:lmao Raiders

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:09 PM
Paying any money at all for that pick-six machine and trading a draft pick for him is very LOL-worthy :lol

:lmao Raiders
i took part in the "lol" for the trade. i was for his acquisition, but not in a trade. the restructure itself isn't lol-worthy imo

Clipper Nation
03-23-2014, 08:14 PM
i took part in the "lol" for the trade. i was for his acquisition, but not in a trade. the restructure itself isn't lol-worthy imo

:lol Get ready for three years of this:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3346061/schaub.gif

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3309077/tipdrill.gif

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/284/files/2013/09/sherman-pick6-vs-texans.gif

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/faceinterception1.gif?w=1000

:lmao It's like having Playoff Fivehead all year long.... :lol Raiders

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:17 PM
:lol 2 of those 4 either went through a receiver's hands or bounced off of them

he's probably gna be with the club for 2 years. the restructure basically guaranteed his 2nd year salary (while reducing it along with his 2014 cap hit). i doubt the plan all along was to second a pick for him, then cut him after 1 season... although matt flynn didn't even last that long :lol

Michael Jordan.
03-23-2014, 08:18 PM
Restructuring will come back to bite you in the ass in general.

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:22 PM
Restructuring will come back to bite you in the ass in general.
restructuring guarantees money down the line. as his contract previously stood, he was gna get paid in the upcoming 2014 season, and would have virtually nothing guaranteed beyond that point, making him an easy cut candidate based on his ridiculous salary...

with the restructure they lower the number for the 2014 season and the 2015 season while basically guaranteeing the 2015 salary as well. its a win win... the raiders pay less than they would have, and schaub isn't going to be vets minimum fodder in 2015.

a lot of the "bad" restructures come in the form of extensions, when you reduce the guys upcoming salary to the minimum and covert the rest into a signing bonus over the course of an extension. from what the schaub deal sounds like, its not the case of that

Michael Jordan.
03-23-2014, 08:27 PM
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1844745/schaubretires.gif
http://www.anthonyalmighty.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2013-10-1312_10_041.gif


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rYLOtDmZM8E/UjYQiDie4rI/AAAAAAAAAtY/EgMabhguI0A/s1600/MAT1111.gif

Just the worst ones.

Clipper Nation
03-23-2014, 08:29 PM
Scha:lolb :lmao

:lol Raiders

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:30 PM
:lol don't forget the pick he threw to michael huff when we had 10 guys on the field the day after Al Davis died

Michael Jordan.
03-23-2014, 08:36 PM
:lol don't forget the pick he threw to michael huff when we had 10 guys on the field the day after Al Davis died
s4h_3-AbicI

:lol I broke my remote on that play.

Michael Jordan.
03-23-2014, 08:37 PM
Fucker could have pump faked and ran it in :lol

Clipper Nation
03-23-2014, 08:38 PM
:lol don't forget the pick he threw to michael huff when we had 10 guys on the field the day after Al Davis died

http://verysmartbrothas.com/images/TO_crying.jpg?c07647

That's your quarterback, man :cry

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:45 PM
:lol 10 men on the field
:lol 11th man was spirit of Al Davis

spurraider21
03-23-2014, 08:46 PM
^that doesn't beat when we had the REAL 12th man... fuck the seahawks. we had the pigeon :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2msmYpNXic

Clipper Nation
03-24-2014, 08:22 PM
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Scha:lolb

:lmao He's all yours, Raiders....

spurraider21
03-24-2014, 08:24 PM
keenum being there tells me it wasn't just schaub thing. that whole team collapsed. although having mcgloin and pryor on that list isn't reassuring either :lol

Michael Jordan.
03-24-2014, 08:28 PM
keenum being there tells me it wasn't just schaub thing. that whole team collapsed. although having mcgloin and pryor on that list isn't reassuring either :lol
Keenum couldn't read blitzes and sucked at short yardage passes. Plus he was basically a rookie. The defense quit when Schaub's first pass in the SF game was a pick 6. They played much harder for Keenum.

Clipper Nation
03-24-2014, 08:30 PM
keenum being there tells me it wasn't just schaub thing.

Keenum has the "youth" excuse.... Schaub has no excuse :lol

spurraider21
03-24-2014, 08:43 PM
the team was 2-14 ffs. they weren't exactly a qb away :lol

Clipper Nation
03-24-2014, 08:45 PM
the team was 2-14 ffs. they weren't exactly a qb away :lol

:lol Talking yourself into Pick-Six Schaub

spurraider21
03-24-2014, 08:45 PM
:lol Talking yourself into Pick-Six Schaub
not talking myself into schaub since we picked him up. i was advocating acquiring him for weeks tbh. djohn can verify

Michael Jordan.
03-24-2014, 08:49 PM
the team was 2-14 ffs. they weren't exactly a qb away :lol
Schaub started the first 6 games IIRC, and they started 2-0, and went 0-4. He literally gave away a win vs Seattle, threw a pick six against Baltimore in which he couldn't convert a 3rd down. Threw 2 pick 6's and a third pick against SF, defense quit that game. Threw a pick 6 against STL. These are all backbreakers and will kill a team's morale.

Michael Jordan.
03-24-2014, 08:50 PM
But yeah, they had holes everywhere that could have been hidden by at least a good QB.

IronMexican
03-24-2014, 08:53 PM
:lol don't forget the pick he threw to michael huff when we had 10 guys on the field the day after Al Davis died

Been all downhill since that day, bro.


Campbell gets hurt and the Raiders mortgage future on a fagot quitter known as Carson Palmer.

spurraider21
03-24-2014, 08:53 PM
its clear schaub had his worst season of his career, don't think anybody would deny that

spurraider21
03-24-2014, 08:53 PM
Been all downhill since that day, bro.


Campbell gets hurt and the Raiders mortgage future on a fagot quitter known as Carson Palmer.
i had no problems with palmer tbh, and he never quit on us. we just never had a competitive team around him since the year he got here.

the trade for him was moronic and shortsighted as hell, but i had no problems with palmer himself

IronMexican
03-24-2014, 08:55 PM
The trade did suck dick, and Hue had such an arrogance about him that I hated, so that made me hate the trade that much more.

weebo
03-25-2014, 07:26 AM
...not only that but Schawb has perfected the art of sacking himself. As soon as a defender is within 5-10 yards of him, like a pussy he takes a dive to avoid getting hit.

Michael Jordan.
03-25-2014, 06:41 PM
448604277578432512

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Clipper Nation
03-25-2014, 06:45 PM
448604277578432512

:lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao Translation: "Take away 90% of his throws and he's really good, we swear! :cry"

Are we sure Al's not still running this franchise from the crypt? :lol

weebo
03-25-2014, 06:53 PM
448604277578432512

:lmao :lmao :lmao


Just take a look at the tape and you can see the ineptitude...no zip on the ball, indecision with the ball, and shitty body language...and oh ya the pick6's

spurraider21
03-25-2014, 07:02 PM
If he can be as good as Jason Campbell was for us, I'm happy