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boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 10:04 AM
Illinois Powers 91 Communities With 100 Percent Clean Energy

Many people don’t know of a state with more than one community using 100-percent renewable electricity, but one state has nearly 100 of them.

Illinois has 91 communities that have achieved 100-percent renewable energy, according to “Leading from the Middle: How Illinois Communities Unleashed Renewable Energy,” a report (http://gocleangolocal.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Leading-from-the-Middle_IL-Report_FINAL.pdf) released Friday by the Environmental Law & Policy Center, Sierra Club, World Wildlife Fund, LEAN Energy US, the Illinois Solar Energy Association and George Washington University Solar Institute. Each of the communities used group buying power to purchase electricity with renewable energy credits.

Illinois is one of six states in the country that allows community choice aggregation (CCA), a system where residents can use their bulk purchasing to solicit bids from energy providers.

According to the reporting agencies, bid requests can demand a mix of energy sources. In Illinois, the 91 communities stipulated that all electricity is offset by renewable energy credits, or energy that comes from the likes of wind, solar and geothermal sources.

New Jersey, Ohio (oops!), California, Rhode Island and Massachusetts are the other states that allow CCA.

http://ecowatch.com/2014/03/08/illinois-clean-energy/

Why aren't any deeply red states allowing CCA? Because they are pro-business, allowing, protecting carbon energy corps to suck excessive wealth from their citizens?

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 10:05 AM
Oregon and Washington are probably in the lead of green energy production.

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 10:09 AM
Oregon and Washington are probably in the lead of green energy production.

My question is why do they, especially, not have CCA?

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 10:36 AM
CCA... With over 80% of the energy green already, why bother with a fluffy label?

I just looked up Oregon's power plants. Here is a breakdown:

Oregon has:

21 hydroelectric plants with a total capacity of 8,286 MW
16 Wind Farms with a total capcity of 2,606 MW
9 Biomass stations with a total capacity of 129.3 MW
1 Geothermal plant with a capacity of 30.1 MW

4 natural Gas/Oil plants with a total capacity of 1,649 MW
1 Coal plant with a capacity of 550 MW... I though this was already shut down...

Total green power is 11,051.4 MW
Total Fossil power is 2,199 MW.

Total power generation capacity is 13,250.4, 83.4% of which is green.

4 Wind Farms under construction with a total capacity of 439.3 MW

pgardn
03-10-2014, 10:51 AM
Texas produces 3x as much wind energy as any other state.

With the new transmission lines going up to major population centers, Texas will be the 5th largest wind power producer in the World.

Not bad. And with the technology improving, it's only going to get better. The upside on solar is also huge.

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 10:53 AM
Texas produces 3x as much wind energy as any other state.

With the new transmission lines going up to major population centers, Texas will be the 5th largest wind power producer in the World.

Not bad. And with the technology improving, it's only going to get better. The upside on solar is also huge.

I don't think Oregon will start any more wind projects, unless states wanting power upgrade the power lines between us and them.

pgardn
03-10-2014, 10:55 AM
I don't think Oregon will start any more wind projects, unless states wanting power upgrade the power lines between us and them.

Texas will keep increasing. Projects planned and many underway are not finished.

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 10:57 AM
Texas will keep increasing. Projects planned and many underway are not finished.

They are almost 100% centralized generation by the electricity cartel with no state-wide and very few cities with a strategy for distributed/rooftop solar.

As always, TX ranks near the bottom in progressive policies, near the top in pro-corporate subsidies and wealth sucking.

pgardn
03-10-2014, 11:08 AM
They are almost 100% centralized generation by the electricity cartel with no state-wide and very few cities with a strategy for distributed/rooftop solar.

As always, TX ranks near the bottom in progressive policies, near the top in pro-corporate subsidies and wealth sucking.

The electric energy cartel...

So we were each suppose to put up our own wind powered blades designed by ourselves to run our own homes.
Peachy...

Do you have any idea how much trouble it was just to get a plan to put up transmission lines? It was a huge problem YOU were going to solve?

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 11:11 AM
Texas will keep increasing. Projects planned and many underway are not finished.
Still, with all the fossil fuel power generation Texas uses, wind and other green power is still a drop in the bucket...

pgardn
03-10-2014, 11:22 AM
Still, with all the fossil fuel power generation Texas uses, wind and other green power is still a drop in the bucket...

On some summer days 25% of the energy is green. That's not a drop in the bucket compared to where we were. I expect the methane power plants coming on line will temper the green output, but methane is a lot cleaner than coal. Coal that mainly is brought by rail from Wyoming.

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 11:29 AM
On some summer days 25% of the energy is green. That's not a drop in the bucket compared to where we were. I expect the methane power plants coming on line will temper the green output, but methane is a lot cleaner than coal. Coal that mainly is brought by rail from Wyoming.

Maybe so. When I did a quick look, the power of stations in Texas was incomplete. Now are you talking of come regions close to the wind farms, or all of Texas. It looked like to me that wind generation was only about 2% of the capacity of all the Texas power plants.

Would these be cool, summer days when no one is using AC?

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 11:32 AM
Maybe so. the power of stations in Texas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Texas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Texas

pgardn
03-10-2014, 11:39 AM
Maybe so. When I did a quick look, the power of stations in Texas was incomplete. Now are you talking of come regions close to the wind farms, or all of Texas. It looked like to me that wind generation was only about 2% of the capacity of all the Texas power plants.

Would these be cool, summer days when no one is using AC?

If the wind is not blowing.

The average capacity over a year is 9% from my findings. But this changes so rapidly as new stuff comes online.
If it's hot and windy, and these often go together, the air conditioning pulls a huge load, residential and industry, so wind power has become important. Once the new transmission lines are up, it's going to be a nice addition.

pgardn
03-10-2014, 11:42 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Texas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Texas

That wiki article does not even have the Taft facilities that are now supplying Corpus.
This stuff is growing very rapidly.
I watched the construction. Even went on site and took pictures of the blades which are absolutely amazing. They would not let me take pictures of the gearing in the turbine. Siemens turbines.

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 11:44 AM
10 Huge Lessons We’ve Learned From Solar Power Success In Germany

http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/09/germany-solar-power-lessons/

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 11:45 AM
The electric energy cartel...

So we were each suppose to put up our own wind powered blades designed by ourselves to run our own homes.
Peachy...

Do you have any idea how much trouble it was just to get a plan to put up transmission lines? It was a huge problem YOU were going to solve?

:lol pgarden FEAR-MONGERING about the grid vs distributed solar generation

pgardn
03-10-2014, 11:48 AM
:lol pgarden FEAR-MONGERING about the grid vs distributed solar generation

I don't know enough about solar to even compare it Boots. I have pictures of the plant mirrors south of San Antonio. But that's about it.

Nice try though. I do know a little about wind, which is what I was referring to.

CosmicCowboy
03-10-2014, 12:36 PM
You are wasting you time arguing with Boutons. Texas never does anything right according to him.

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 12:59 PM
That wiki article does not even have the Taft facilities that are now supplying Corpus.
This stuff is growing very rapidly.
I watched the construction. Even went on site and took pictures of the blades which are absolutely amazing. They would not let me take pictures of the gearing in the turbine. Siemens turbines.
Wind was supply what? 8.3% during 2013...

Still a long ways to go to get off of coal. For Texas, power was in 2010:

36.5% Coal
00.2% Petroleum
45.4% Natural gas
0.08% Other gas
10.0% Nuclear
00.3% Hydroelectric
06.7% Other renewable
00.1% Other

The "other renewable" was likely the solar and wind. Improvements 1.6% over 3 years... Take a long time to replace coal...

Here is the report that data came from:

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/pdf/sep2010.pdf

I found the report interesting. There are about 6 pages for each state. Texas, in 2010, was rated to put out 2.3 lbs/MWh of sulfur dioxide, 1.1 lb/MWh of Nitrogen Oxide, and 1,346 lbs/MWh of Carbon Dioxide. Oregon for these were 0.6, 0.6, and 404. Washington was 0.3, 0.4, and 298. The highest Sulfur came from Ohio at 9.4. The lowest from California, and/or Rhode Island. Indicated by an asterisk for <.05. The highest Nitrogen Oxide came from Alaska at 5.2, the lowest from Washington at 0.4. The state with the highest CO2 was not a state... Washington DC, at 2104. Their only power source is petroleum. The state with the lowest carbon footprint per KWh was Idaho, at 222.

The northwest rocks...

Carbon Footprint lbs per MWh...

1st place 222 Idaho
2nd place 298 Washington
3rd place 404 Oregon
30th place 1346 Texas

Sulfur footprint:

4th .03 Washington
7th 0.6 Oregon
12th 1.2 Idaho
23rd 2.3 Texas

Nitrogen Oxide footprint

1st 0.4 Washington
4th 0.6 Oregon
8th 0.8 Idaho
21st 1.1 Texas

You guys have a long way to go.

leemajors
03-10-2014, 01:02 PM
Maybe so. When I did a quick look, the power of stations in Texas was incomplete. Now are you talking of come regions close to the wind farms, or all of Texas. It looked like to me that wind generation was only about 2% of the capacity of all the Texas power plants.

Would these be cool, summer days when no one is using AC?

We don't have cool summer days when no one uses AC.

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 01:04 PM
For 3 or 4 years, I watched wind turbine blades being haul east AND west on I10 between SA and Kerrville. :)

And the construction of the $200M LCRA transmission line from a n/w wind farm to the substation at Comfort.

Of course, many more trucks have been hauling drilling pipe in both directions. :(

CosmicCowboy
03-10-2014, 01:18 PM
Wind was supply what? 8.3% during 2013...

Still a long ways to go to get off of coal. For Texas, power was in 2010:

36.5% Coal
00.2% Petroleum
45.4% Natural gas
0.08% Other gas
10.0% Nuclear
00.3% Hydroelectric
06.7% Other renewable
00.1% Other

The "other renewable" was likely the solar and wind. Improvements 1.6% over 3 years... Take a long time to replace coal...

Here is the report that data came from:

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/pdf/sep2010.pdf

I found the report interesting. There are about 6 pages for each state. Texas, in 2010, was rated to put out 2.3 lbs/MWh of sulfur dioxide, 1.1 lb/MWh of Nitrogen Oxide, and 1,346 lbs/MWh of Carbon Dioxide. Oregon for these were 0.6, 0.6, and 404. Washington was 0.3, 0.4, and 298. The highest Sulfur came from Ohio at 9.4. The lowest from California, and/or Rhode Island. Indicated by an asterisk for <.05. The highest Nitrogen Oxide came from Alaska at 5.2, the lowest from Washington at 0.4. The state with the highest CO2 was not a state... Washington DC, at 2104. Their only power source is petroleum. The state with the lowest carbon footprint per KWh was Idaho, at 222.

The northwest rocks...

Carbon Footprint lbs per MWh...

1st place 222 Idaho
2nd place 298 Washington
3rd place 404 Oregon
30th place 1346 Texas

Sulfur footprint:

4th .03 Washington
7th 0.6 Oregon
12th 1.2 Idaho
23rd 2.3 Texas

Nitrogen Oxide footprint

1st 0.4 Washington
4th 0.6 Oregon
8th 0.8 Idaho
21st 1.1 Texas

You guys have a long way to go.

Don't be a dumbass and try to compare Texas to Idaho/Washington/Oregon. We don't have the luxury of unlimited Hydroelectric power.

Wild Cobra
03-10-2014, 01:32 PM
Don't be a dumbass and try to compare Texas to Idaho/Washington/Oregon. We don't have the luxury of unlimited Hydroelectric power.
LOL...

I know, but our hydro power isn't unlimited.

I will admit to going overboard after Boutons brought up the CCA thing.

I wish they wouldn't put windmills up here in Oregon. We don't need them, but the liberals of course will do what they want here. I can see doing it in Texas, along with solar. I just wonder how much more expensive it will make your power when the subsidies completely dry up. What happens when the replace the power, then yank out the cheaper power, then yank out the subsidies?

TeyshaBlue
03-10-2014, 01:45 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Illinois
LOL Blue Illionois. Lol blue coal.

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 01:46 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Illinois
LOL Blue Illionois. Lol blue coal.

of course coal and nuclear still dominate, duh. Brilliant find TB :lol

TeyshaBlue
03-10-2014, 01:49 PM
Thats really leading the way....:facepalm

boutons_deux
03-10-2014, 01:50 PM
Thats really leading the way....:facepalm

IL ahead of retrograde BigCarbon-sucking TX :lol

TeyshaBlue
03-10-2014, 02:37 PM
Not really. LOL coal
LOL leading the way.

boutons_deux
03-24-2014, 10:36 AM
144 Bipartisan Congress Members Request Wind Tax Credit Renewals


There are 80,000 people in the U.S. who are employed in the wind energy industry—an industry that has secured $105 billion in investments since 2005.

At the same time, the cost to deploy the energy has dropped by 43 percent in four years and wind has risen to become the fifth-largest power source in the U.S (http://ecowatch.com/2014/03/07/wind-energys-rise-milestone/).

A bipartisan group of 144 Congressional members says that growth didn’t happen without the support of the U.S. government. If the form of renewable energy is to continue limiting emissions, wind energy will need another economic boost in the form of tax-credit renewal, the senators and representatives wrote in a pair of letters to the Senate Finance Committee’s leadership.

http://ecowatch.com/2014/03/24/144-bipartisan-congress-wind/

It's not clear WHO is blocking PTC, but in an election year, even less gets accomplished by the tea party's obstructionist DO-NOTHING House.

Drachen
03-24-2014, 02:39 PM
It didn't take long for boots move his goal posts so that he could trash his own op

Jacob1983
03-24-2014, 02:41 PM
So do you have blue koolaid instead of blood in your body?

boutons_deux
03-24-2014, 02:47 PM
get back to me when PTC (or long term unemployment benefits) actually get passed.

until then, GFY

TeyshaBlue
03-24-2014, 03:21 PM
:lmao

lol boutons

DarrinS
04-01-2014, 09:24 AM
Texas sets new wind power record

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2014/03/30/texas-sets-new-wind-power-record/

boutons_deux
04-01-2014, 09:42 AM
Electricity Rates To Be as Big as Texas This Summer! The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly



ERCOT, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, who operates the wholesale grid for most of the state, is predicting that demand for electricity could meet or exceed available supply at certain times during this summer (http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/business/article_f0628c24-da1a-11e2-b513-001a4bcf6878.html). Texas is very close to a self-contained system when it comes to electricity, with only a few connections to neighboring transmission grids. This means that the electricity that gets used in Texas is made in Texas. So, if the amount of electricity demanded at any particular time exceeds what’s available, the electrical grid can become unstable.

The remedy to this is to institute rotating outages, or “rolling brownouts” to reduce the demand on the electricity to the amount that can be supplied by the power plants located in Texas.

Peak demand for electricity in Texas normally occurs between 3pm and 7pm on weekdays. This coincides with the warmest time of the day and when most of us crank up our air conditioners when we get home after work. The hotter the weather outside the more strain there is on the grid. This happens for two reasons. First, when it’s warmer outside, we’re more likely to turn on our air conditioners, and they’re more likely to work harder to get the temperature in our homes to a comfortable level.

https://power2switch.com/blog/electricity-rates-to-be-as-big-as-texas-this-summer-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

If RED TX had an aggressive FIT/PPA for distributed rooftop solar on residences and businesses like BLUE California does, TX could make a huge dent in electrical demand from gouging CENTRALIZED electricity producers in peak summer hours AND on sunny days when the wind isn't always blowing worth a damn.

Wild Cobra
04-01-2014, 10:20 AM
Texas sets new wind power record

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2014/03/30/texas-sets-new-wind-power-record/

Good for Texas.

I just hope I'm wrong about wind power.