Marc Stein: Spurs made a strong deadline day push for Evan Turner

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It emerged shortly after trade deadline that San Antonio tried hard to make deadline-day play for Evan Turner. Funny how things work out
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It emerged shortly after trade deadline that San Antonio tried hard to make deadline-day play for Evan Turner. Funny how things work out12:05 AM - 12 Mar 2014 (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/statuses/443613678001463296)

i just dont see how turner helps us at all anyways... now thaddeus young is another story!

[Darius Bieber]

Any player signed for the last roster spot would just be an insurance policy.

[TE]

Meh...

[deibero]

Any player signed for the last roster spot would just be an insurance policy.

disagree, you dont trade for turner as an insurance policy, you trade for him to play him 20-25mins/gm at least

[Mikeanaro]

Not a big deal he would be warming the bench anyway.

[spurraider21]

Austin Daye > Evan Turner




















































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[Robz4000]

Glad it fell through tbh. He's been absolute dogshit for Indy. Now if it was for Thaddius Young on the other hand...

[TheyCallMePro]

Wow I'm glad it fell through too. Turner has been an absolute BUST and I thought the media singing his praises when he got traded to Indy was just ridiculous.

What's more curious now is what we would have traded to get him. Probably our 1st round pick and De Colo...

[timtonymanu]

Good news.

[crc21209]

He hasnt been playing that well for Indy anyways. Plus, he wouldve had to compete against Manu, Green, Leonard, and Beli for rotation minutes. Good luck with that...

[HarlemHeat37]

He would have been an awful fit, tbh..

[freetiago]

Brett Brown did us a favor tbh...
send him to a possible finals opponent

Spurs need a Amir Johnson/Jason Smith type of guy more than anything
or a 3 who can guard KD or Serge Abaka so we can trap/switch pick and rolls vs OKC with Leonard

[FromWayDowntown]

Spurs front office never tries to make moves involving name players.

[Chinook]

I strongly doubt it. I feel their first would have been enough to be Indy's offer. Plus Turner sucks. This is just something we all know by now.

[Sean Cagney]

Blah blah blah, we hear this bs every year about a strong push for a player but it falls through at the last minute or was close! Spurs keep winning, period.

[Hoops Czar]

Wish the Spurs would have been more enthusiastic about Bynum when he was brought out.

[chazley]

Considering he was traded for $500k and a late second round pick, I still think he would've been worth the flier if we gave up something equivalent.

[Cry Havoc]

Wish the Spurs would have been more enthusiastic about Bynum when he was brought out.

We don't bring in guys with shitty character. We just don't.

[Spurs da champs]

We don't bring in guys with shitty character. We just don't.

:lol the Spurs acquired 2 dudes who quit on their team, Jackson (quit on Bobcats, Warriors, & Bucks, not to mention feuds with all 3 coaches), & Boris Diaw who had a shitty work ethic, & quit on the Bobcats. Luckily Diaw has been a great fit, tho he was no saint prior to being claimed by the Spurs.

[Johnny RIngo]

He's not worth a first rounder. Thankfully this trade never happened. Would have been a horrible fit too(high usage, low efficiency player)

[smaka]

Funny that he was drafted before players like DMC, PG...

[Baam]

Guy was traded for a bag of chips, lol "strong push". Was probably the rights of Hanga and Ryan Richards + Bonner or something...

Anyway I don't see the point of trying to get Turner and passing on Granger... We already have Turner 0.9 on the roster with BelinoD...

[superbigtime]

was never hot on evan turner. Would love Thaddeus Young someday.

[exstatic]

:lol the Spurs acquired 2 dudes who quit on their team, Jackson (quit on Bobcats, Warriors, & Bucks, not to mention feuds with all 3 coaches), & Boris Diaw who had a shitty work ethic, & quit on the Bobcats. Luckily Diaw has been a great fit, tho he was no saint prior to being claimed by the Spurs.

Jackson was strictly a financial transaction who was cut when he did manifest bad attitude. He was also not "signed", he was traded for, and it saved the Spurs $11M.

Boris really never quit on Charlotte. Their coach just couldn't get him to shoot. Sound Familiar?

[james evans]

disagree, you dont trade for turner as an insurance policy, you trade for him to play him 20-25mins/gm at least

this is agree with, but we talking about popovich. noone knows what's going on in that man's head

[MeloHype]

Turner is a minus impact player, fuck him

[Mel_13]

Wish the Spurs would have been more enthusiastic about Bynum when he was brought out.

Bynum was a free agent for three weeks because he wanted more than the minimum. The Spurs, Heat, Clippers, etc. could only offer the minimum. The Pacers had a salary cap exception remaining that allowed them to offer more.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Wish the Spurs would have been more enthusiastic about Bynum when he was brought out.

[peacemaker885]

He hasnt been playing that well for Indy anyways. Plus, he wouldve had to compete against Manu, Green, Leonard, and Beli for rotation minutes. Good luck with that...

+1

[Cry Havoc]

Jackson

Already had a history with the Spurs and a good relationship with Pop. It was a huge money saving move and the Spurs wanted to give Jackson a chance to right some wrongs. He ran his mouth to the media and the Spurs cut him. Pretty simple.


Boris Diaw

Was playing on a team that was tanking and wouldn't give him PT anyway. I think it's completely understandable that going to a contender would be a huge motivating factor to push yourself extra hard.

Bynum has basically demonstrated what a head case he is. Would you feel okay about him playing any meaningful minutes without worrying he's going to flip his shit and start jacking up 3s? I wouldn't. And if he can't play important minutes then there's no point in chasing him.

[benefactor]

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[wildchild]

He hasnt been playing that well for Indy anyways. Plus, he wouldve had to compete against Manu, Green, Leonard, and Beli for rotation minutes. Good luck with that...

Agreed. Turner is more SG than SF, Danny, Manu and Beli absorb the most of the minutes at the 2, so he would get limited playing time.

And that's the main reason to disbelieve the rumor, the Spurs sign a 6,6 M guy to not play him?

[Hoops Czar]

Already had a history with the Spurs and a good relationship with Pop. It was a huge money saving move and the Spurs wanted to give Jackson a chance to right some wrongs. He ran his mouth to the media and the Spurs cut him. Pretty simple.



Was playing on a team that was tanking and wouldn't give him PT anyway. I think it's completely understandable that going to a contender would be a huge motivating factor to push yourself extra hard.

Bynum has basically demonstrated what a head case he is. Would you feel okay about him playing any meaningful minutes without worrying he's going to flip his shit and start jacking up 3s? I wouldn't. And if he can't play important minutes then there's no point in chasing him.

For $1 million dollars, I don't see the risk. If he's a head case or doesn't fit in, release him or sit him on the end of the bench. The Spurs already have a plethora of useless spare parts that do nothing but warm the bench. It would be nice to get a potential double-double of the bench from time to time. Indiana has basically the same makeup as the Spurs so if they can take small risks, so can the Spurs.

Jackson has always been a headcase as was Nick Van Exel. The Spurs have enough leaders and a no nonsense head coach on this team to set the guy straight. If he didn't work out, it basically costs them nothing. I agree that the Jackson trade was strictly financial that didn't even benefit the team after his departure. They literally pissed away the money they saved from RJ's contract. And Jackson ended up being an expensive cut.

Personally, I don't think Bynum is a head case, I think he's immature and being on a team like San Antonio with a lot of veteran leaders could have helped his growth and maturation in the same way it helped Diaw.

I also think they went after Metta World Peace the first time he was brought out.

[tmtcsc]

Interesting but ultimately irrelevant.

[xmas1997]

Interesting but ultimately irrelevant.


Ditto.

[poeticism707]

Interesting but ultimately irrelevant.

This.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Would much rather have Young, tbh.

[xmas1997]

Would much rather have Young, tbh.


So would I, but I doubt he was ever even in the mix to be traded.

[dallasmaverickslose]

So would I, but I doubt he was ever even in the mix to be traded.

We could've done some kickass smallball with Diaw-Young-Kawhi-Manu-Marco

[phxspurfan]

Pass.

Turner would have been RJ #2 here. Nothing more than a volume scorer who only succeeded because he was on a crappy team. We have a system here that doesn't lend well to the Iso Joe's of the world.


Like others have said, Thaddeus would have been awesome here though. He has the needed size and can grab contested boards, shoot threes, play the small ball center role, man he would have been a great fucking fit here.

[xmas1997]

We could've done some kickass smallball with Diaw-Young-Kawhi-Manu-Marco

Would have been nice to see, and we might see it right before draft day if they are thinking about trading for him.
But who do you give up to get him? Leave our draft picks out of it hopefully.

[exstatic]

So would I, but I doubt he was ever even in the mix to be traded.

He actually was, but as their most valuable trade piece, with time left on his contract, they probably didn't get their price. I'm betting he gets moved during the draft.

[xmas1997]

He actually was, but as their most valuable trade piece, with time left on his contract, they probably didn't get their price. I'm betting he gets moved during the draft.

That would be my guess too, or right before it.

[exstatic]

That would be my guess too, or right before it.

I think on draft night, someone will see their player(s) off the board, and cough up that first round pick that Philly probably wants.

[xmas1997]

I think on draft night, someone will see their player(s) off the board, and cough up that first round pick that Philly probably wants.

Doubt the Spurs cough up theirs for him. Maybe a second round and a player, but not a first round.
He isn't worth a first round pick IMHO.

[exstatic]

Doubt the Spurs cough up theirs for him. Maybe a second round and a player, but not a first round.
He isn't worth a first round pick IMHO.

I think they would. Won't likely be anyone at 30 that's better than him. The problem would be the salary to send out. Expiring contracts could not be used, since they officially expire on the last day of our season, which will be before the draft. Spurs would have to send out contract(s) for next year that offset his $8M deal. I don't think they'd want to do that.

[Seventyniner]

I think they would. Won't likely be anyone at 30 that's better than him. The problem would be the salary to send out. Expiring contracts could not be used, since they officially expire on the last day of our season, which will be before the draft. Spurs would have to send out contract(s) for next year that offset his $8M deal. I don't think they'd want to do that.

I think contracts roll over to the next year on July 1, so since the draft is at the end of June, players can be traded on their existing contracts during the draft. I'm not sure about this, though.

Even if that is true, I can't see the Spurs trading expirings for Thad Young because he'll eat up almost $10M in precious 2015 cap space (he has a ETO for 2015-2016 and I highly doubt he opts out).

[xmas1997]

I think they would. Won't likely be anyone at 30 that's better than him. The problem would be the salary to send out. Expiring contracts could not be used, since they officially expire on the last day of our season, which will be before the draft. Spurs would have to send out contract(s) for next year that offset his $8M deal. I don't think they'd want to do that.

I only disagree on the draft part because this is a very deep draft and especially for SFs.
The rest of your opinion I agree with.

[exstatic]

I think contracts roll over to the next year on July 1, so since the draft is at the end of June, players can be traded on their existing contracts during the draft. I'm not sure about this, though.

Even if that is true, I can't see the Spurs trading expirings for Thad Young because he'll eat up almost $10M in precious 2015 cap space (he has a ETO for 2015-2016 and I highly doubt he opts out).

Nah. I went through this last year at draft time with your position, and was educated. Expiring contracts can't be dealt during the draft. That would kind of make the trade deadline moot if you could just move the expiring at the draft. Puts a little more pressure on you to do a deal at the deadline if you want to move or take on an expiring.