How the Placebo Effect Proves That God Exists

[SnakeBoy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-schiffman/how-the-placebo-effect-pr_b_1238938.html

[boutons_deux]

silly dude

The placebo effect is nothing but the power, control of the mind/brain/nervous system over the body. To claim that it's some kind of God is weird, naive.

Eastern religions are so much more advanced in the integration, through spiritual and physical practices, of mind/brain and body than the simplistic, childish Western religions.

[SnakeBoy]

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[RandomGuy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-schiffman/how-the-placebo-effect-pr_b_1238938.html

Eyuch.

Badly reasoned, and factually flawed in several things I noted off the bat.


Science has got no explanation for it-- something immaterial (a thought?) has impacted something material (our body) in a way which utterly defies logic.

This is not the case of something immaterial impacting something material.

It is a case where one part of the body, i.e. the brain, impacts other parts of the body.

Nothing overly mysterious or illogical. The brain and its emotional state have rather well documented interactions.

Pseudoscientific bullshit, where a deeply flawed argument is dressed up to be juuuust plausible enough if you don't look too closely at its starting assumptions. The problem is that the actual science that the guy alludes to doesn't even support some of his underlying assumptions.

I could go on, but maybe you can tell me what you think the best argument he made was, whether or not you buy it, and why.

[SnakeBoy]

I could go on, but maybe you can tell me what you think the best argument he made was, whether or not you buy it, and why.

Didn't read it.

2 bycatch tbh

[ElNono]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

[boutons_deux]

"This is not the case of something immaterial impacting something material.

It is a case where one part of the body, i.e. the brain, impacts other parts of the body."

The nervous system operates with electrical signalling. That's the immaterial affecting the biological material.

[exstatic]

It doesn't prove God, it just proves why some people believe religion. In both cases, you believe something and you feel better.

[Blake]

Didn't read it.

2 bycatch tbh

Cool thread topic.

My guess is that it will die a swift death

[RandomGuy]

Didn't read it.

2 bycatch tbh

Kinda figured it was meant to be like that given that you started the count with boutons.

Did it anyway, as it is sort of fun to practice finding the fuck-ups in stuff like this. Usually not too hard.

[SnakeBoy]

Kinda figured it was meant to be like that given that you started the count with boutons.

Did it anyway, as it is sort of fun to practice finding the fuck-ups in stuff like this. Usually not too hard.

Yeah it was just meant for Fuzzy but he's resisting his urge. I notice the article is a year old so stale bait maybe. Next time I'll have to remember to use fresher God.

[TSA]

Next time I'll have to remember to use fresher God.lololol

[Blake]

Yeah it was just meant for Fuzzy but he's resisting his urge. I notice the article is a year old so stale bait maybe. Next time I'll have to remember to use fresher God.

I'm sure your fresh God appreciates you inviting people to crucify him.

He apparently gets off to that kind of thing.