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irishock
03-19-2014, 03:22 AM
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spurraider21
03-19-2014, 03:23 AM
Pop... because he did it twice.

i actually understand the first one tbh... Miami had a lineup of Chalmers, Wade, Allen, James, Miller. and they wanted the switches, etc. on that play the spurs almost had the rebound but Wade made a terrific play to knock the ball loose when Boris/Kawhi were right there.

after getting burned though, and especially considering Miami brought Bosh in for the last play, i thought the Duncan switch was obvious...

webshad
03-19-2014, 07:59 AM
It's sports, sometime you need a lucky break (unfortunately it went Miami's way in Game 6).

Hopefully, we will get it back this year.

313
03-19-2014, 08:08 AM
It's sports, sometime you need a lucky break (unfortunately it went Miami's way in Game 6).

Hopefully, we will get it back this year.

Thread
03-19-2014, 09:10 AM
Ironically it was the latter that drew & locked me to the Lakers:::the drama of that incident, the way it was covered & exploited by Media then as Kolff was assigned the white hat, Wilt the black. I felt badly for Chamberlain. It was an indelible moment. I can still see the b&w tv screen in my parent's basement as the audio & video played out.

Fast forward 44 years & it's bookend:::Pop's substitution of Duncan and the subsequent catastrophic event that substitution initiated.

Shocky

Seventyniner
03-19-2014, 09:34 AM
Pop benching Duncan is only seen as a bad move because the Spurs lost. If Ray Allen misses that corner 3, or Parker hits the game-winner at the end of regulation, or the Spurs win game 6 in OT, or the Spurs win game 7, etc, nobody would be talking about it. People just want to find a scapegoat or have an agenda to shit on Pop.

webshad
03-19-2014, 09:48 AM
Pop benching Duncan is only seen as a bad move because the Spurs lost. If Ray Allen misses that corner 3, or Parker hits the game-winner at the end of regulation, or the Spurs win game 6 in OT, or the Spurs win game 7, etc, nobody would be talking about it. People just want to find a scapegoat or have an agenda to shit on Pop.

You're right, who is to say that even with Duncan on the floor Miami wouldn't have hit a three. The basketball does bounce in a random direction.

But I think what upsets most people is that Coach Popovich didn't substitute man to man cover with Erik Spoelstra.

Thread
03-19-2014, 10:02 AM
^Lettin' a squirt like Spoelstra put your pants on your ankles is a disgrace.

Seventyniner
03-19-2014, 10:06 AM
You're right, who is to say that even with Duncan on the floor Miami wouldn't have hit a three. The basketball does bounce in a random direction.

But I think what upsets most people is that Coach Popovich didn't substitute man to man cover with Erik Spoelstra.

Duncan was out precisely because of his lack of mobility. Should a 35-year-old Shaq have been on the floor on defense there?

Wiz
03-19-2014, 10:36 AM
The little boys parent's for letting you touch their kid

Killakobe81
03-19-2014, 11:31 AM
Pop benching Duncan is only seen as a bad move because the Spurs lost. If Ray Allen misses that corner 3, or Parker hits the game-winner at the end of regulation, or the Spurs win game 6 in OT, or the Spurs win game 7, etc, nobody would be talking about it. People just want to find a scapegoat or have an agenda to shit on Pop.

Of course, no guarantees but when a key rebound is needed and you have the greatest NCAA rebounder (iirc) and a top 10 NBA rebounder sitting during a key defensive posession ...makes no sense. I love Pop. I would kill a homeless man to have him coach my Lakers ...but he fucked up. Great thing about sports is the chance for redemption. Probably won't be EXACTLY same scenario ...but Spurs should be West favorites. And will get a chance at some semblance of redemption.

Thread
03-19-2014, 11:37 AM
^Killa, the voice of reason & moderation in troubled times.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
03-19-2014, 12:01 PM
I'm going with C) trading Harden to the Rockets. You had the chance to be superior to our team.. Now you follow the old shits.

webshad
03-19-2014, 12:23 PM
Well you all know who and what play Popovich is blaming, it's the Danny Green moving forward instead of covering Lebron who hit a open three.

A lot of people don't realize those little things including myself.

Chris
03-19-2014, 12:50 PM
Ironically it was the latter that drew & locked me to the Lakers:::the drama of that incident, the way it was covered & exploited by Media then as Kolff was assigned the white hat, Wilt the black. I felt badly for Chamberlain. It was an indelible moment. I can still see the b&w tv screen in my parent's basement as the audio & video played out.

Fast forward 44 years & it's bookend:::Pop's substitution of Duncan and the subsequent catastrophic event that substitution initiated.

Shocky

:tu

Horse
03-19-2014, 12:52 PM
The point is with the game on the line you put the guy who got you there and 4 rings in the game no matter what.

resistanze
03-19-2014, 12:53 PM
Duncan was out precisely because of his lack of mobility. Should a 35-year-old Shaq have been on the floor on defense there?

Duncan is not Shaq, so I don't know where you're going with that. Duncan was the best player on the floor the whole game; the game doesn't drastically change because the other team needed a 3.
What good is mobility if you have no rebounding?

irishock
03-20-2014, 02:28 AM
the way it was covered & exploited by Media then as Kolff was assigned the white hat, Wilt the black. I felt badly for Chamberlain


Would be interesting to see how media would've handled it if that shit happened today. I'm sure they'd side with Chamberlain

whitemamba
03-20-2014, 04:07 AM
:lol 6

Thebesteva
03-20-2014, 04:10 AM
6>The Begging

irishock
03-20-2014, 05:32 AM
6>The Begging

What the fuck is with your sig :lol