Have The Spurs Ever Backed Off Kobe and Dared Him To Shoot Like They Did Lebron?

[Koolaid_Man]

:lmao Fuck NO.....but People do it to Lebron all the time...they back off this nigga and dare him to shoot....no one and I mean no one ever backed off MJ and Kobe...they knew better....this nigga is a fucking joke....:lmao


Whatever the problem is, James has rewarded the Spurs for the way they’re defending him. Basically, they’re not defending him on the perimeter, inviting him to shoot jumpers.


Here are James’ nine mid-range shots (from between the paint and the 3-point line) from Game 3. He was 1-for-9.




Here's the link :lmao

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/12/film-study-spurs-dare-james-to-shoot-and-he-does-it-poorly/

[Clipper Nation]

The Pistons were perfectly fine with letting Kirby chuck at a 38% clip in '04, tbh....

[HemisfairArena]

And yet LeBron has more total points than Kobrick did at this stage in their career's and Kobrick took more shots...imagine that.

[SpurSwag]

Such a dumb argument, they back off because if Lebron gets to the rim it's over. Lebron is much better in the paint than Kobe could have ever dreamed, so there wasn't as much incentive to back off him. And also considering Kobe's shitty field goal percentages I'm sure defenses are pretty happy letting Kobe do what he does

[Koolaid_Man]

Such a dumb argument, they back off because if Lebron gets to the rim it's over. Lebron is much better in the paint than Kobe could have ever dreamed, so there wasn't as much incentive to back off him. And also considering Kobe's shitty field goal percentages I'm sure defenses are pretty happy letting Kobe do what he does


In the 2001 playoffs vs Spurs Kobe averaged 25 8 6, which is pretty much the same Lebron averaged last year(Lebron shot 3% higher & had 2 more boards a game, but took the same amount of shots to average less than a point more) , only that Kobe was only 22 & he actually had to deal with one of the better perimeter scorers of his era.

Kobe often faced double teams & shot contested jumpers while defenders dared Lebron to shoot wide open jumpers outside 16 feet, which he still struggles to shoot this very season.

Prime Lebron: 37.6% outside 16 feet this season
22 year old Kobe: 40,6% outside 16 feet while having taken 3 times the amount of shots Lebron has taken this season outside 16 feet.

[Koolaid_Man]

2001 Spurs

3rd in Opponents points per game

1st in defensive rating

6th in offensive rating

1st in strength of schedule

58 win, best record in the league

[Sybok]

Spurs backed off and lost. Shitty argument from a shitty 2nd tier poster.

[Koolaid_Man]

Spurs backed off and lost. Shitty argument from a shitty 2nd tier poster.

Don't let Cedrique make you salty :hat

[Sybok]

Don't let Cedrique make you salty :hat

You're like the guy who's still around at 3am at a friend's house when the party ended at midnight, you just don't get hints.

[Koolaid_Man]

You're like the guy who's still around at 3am at a friend's house when the party ended at midnight, you just don't get hints.

That's cuz I'm looking for that drunk bitch stumbling in the drive way to take home :hat

[chicken eye]

Fucking loser.

[scanry]

The Pistons were perfectly fine with letting Kirby chuck at a 38% clip in '04, tbh....

Kobe was enriqueing while Daddy was shooting 63%

[Sybok]

That's cuz I'm looking for that drunk bitch stumbling in the drive way to take home :hat

No, you're running your mouth about shit everyone's heard a million times and you don't get it that no one gives a shit. They only put up with you because you're like the neighborhood retarded kid. You're harmless to everything but a bucket of chicken and a toilet.

[Thread]

Kobe was enriqueing while Daddy was shooting 63%

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

[Koolaid_Man]

No, you're running your mouth about shit everyone's heard a million times and you don't get it that no one gives a shit. They only put up with you because you're like the neighborhood retarded kid. You're harmless to everything but a bucket of chicken and a toilet.

poor baby!!!! :lol

[chicken eye]

poor baby!!!! :lol

Fuck face.

[scanry]

In the 2001 playoffs vs Spurs Kobe averaged 25 8 6, which is pretty much the same Lebron averaged last year(Lebron shot 3% higher & had 2 more boards a game, but took the same amount of shots to average less than a point more) , only that Kobe was only 22 & he actually had to deal with one of the better perimeter scorers of his era.

Kobe often faced double teams & shot contested jumpers while defenders dared Lebron to shoot wide open jumpers outside 16 feet, which he still struggles to shoot this very season.

Prime Lebron: 37.6% outside 16 feet this season
22 year old Kobe: 40,6% outside 16 feet while having taken 3 times the amount of shots Lebron has taken this season outside 16 feet.

Capri, the Spurs were literally shitting their pants guarding Shaq despite triple teaming the fat bastard. Kobe had a 37 year old Terry Porter & Antonio Daniels guarding him.

[Koolaid_Man]

Fuck face.

^ :toast ain't nothing like em

[Clipper Nation]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1
Daddy: 3

MVPau: 2

Quitbag: 0

[Koolaid_Man]

Capri, the Spurs were literally shitting their pants guarding Shaq despite triple teaming the fat bastard. Kobe had a 37 year old Terry Porter & Antonio Daniels guarding him.

Kobe was doubled by guards and Shaq was doubled down low....the both were doubled and all the time....Shaq was easier to pick apart because all you had to do was foul him he was a liability at the FT line..remember Hack-A-Shaq

[scanry]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

Both could've had more had Kobe had different ideas.

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Jackson-Shaq-Kobe-Stern.jpg

[SpurSwag]

In the 2001 playoffs vs Spurs Kobe averaged 25 8 6, which is pretty much the same Lebron averaged last year(Lebron shot 3% higher & had 2 more boards a game, but took the same amount of shots to average less than a point more) , only that Kobe was only 22 & he actually had to deal with one of the better perimeter scorers of his era.

Kobe often faced double teams & shot contested jumpers while defenders dared Lebron to shoot wide open jumpers outside 16 feet, which he still struggles to shoot this very season.

Prime Lebron: 37.6% outside 16 feet this season
22 year old Kobe: 40,6% outside 16 feet while having taken 3 times the amount of shots Lebron has taken this season outside 16 feet.

Right but that's not an argument, again backing up against exploits the closest thing he has to a weakness. It's like fouling shaq intentionally and sending him to the line, shaq's lower free throw numbers don't mean he's worse than kevin garnett was. It's just his weakness. Lebron's closest thing to a weakness is his perimeter shot, the numbers will show it just as the eye test will. that is why they concede that shot, and sometimes it works well (see spurs heat games 1-6) and sometimes it fails miserably (see game 7). That's like saying lmao kobe sucks so much look at the assists and rebounds number. Lebron isn't a great shooter and is a far superior driver to just about any wing the game has ever seen, it is why people back off. Kobe was never on that level and had a pretty serious jumper, that's why people didn't sag off.

[SpurSwag]

Btw how much does it kill you that pretty much every argument with kobe features words like "had" and "used to" when talking about his talents.

[Thread]

Both could've had more had Kobe had different ideas.

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Jackson-Shaq-Kobe-Stern.jpg

All 3 were complicit, Scany. It reminds me of the Kupchak/Odom debacle. You would think that Kupchak would have learned something from the earlier blood feud, but, no, he baited Odom then engaged him to the point of no return. We've suffered from that catastrophic event and will do so for years to come. Jackson was the father, Bryant & Daddy the children. Jackson did not go far enough and let it die on vine so that 10 years later "we're" citing & lamenting it and will be until time runs out. Bryant & Shaq had no vision past their own needs and failed their fan base shamelessly.

[spurraider21]

the spurs haven't defended kobe once this year

[elmanutres]

You're like the guy who's still around at 3am at a friend's house when the party ended at midnight, you just don't get hints.

Bad analogy. He has no friends.

[313]

the spurs haven't defended kobe once this year

[Arcadian]

:facepalm

Think about what you're saying before posting, you stupid pile of shit.

What is the reason why teams back off Lebron? It's because he is the best player in the league (and one of the best ever) at driving to the basket. You literally cannot give him an inch of a lane to the basket without getting dunked on. So in that situation, obviously they're going to give him the jump shot. In spite of that, he has become a solid jump shooter. It's just a matter of picking your poison. Most people pick the jumper because it's a lower-percentage shot.

So no, this doesn't vindicate your god as being an actual god - only in your fucked up, delusional brain. :lol

[SpurSwag]

:facepalm

Think about what you're saying before posting, you stupid pile of shit.

What is the reason why teams back off Lebron? It's because he is the best player in the league (and one of the best ever) at driving to the basket. You literally cannot give him an inch of a lane to the basket without getting dunked on. So in that situation, obviously they're going to give him the jump shot. In spite of that, he has become a solid jump shooter. It's just a matter of picking your poison. Most people pick the jumper because it's a lower-percentage shot.

So no, this doesn't vindicate your god as being an actual god - only in your fucked up, delusional brain. :lol

exactly what I've been trying to say this whole thread, OP is literally brain dead. His jumper is the only thing close to a weakness and I've heard several analysts refer to Lebron as the greatest driver / slasher in the history of the league, so no shit you're gonna want him to shoot a long jumper instead

[Sybok]

Bad analogy. He has no friends.
I don't believe that.

[Sybok]

Example:

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[Kidd K]

Yeah the Spurs don't back off Kobe and let him take wide open shots. . .but they allow him to catch the ball, only play medium defense to stay in front because they know he will settle for forcing up a fadeaway 18-22 foot mid range shot and brick it 2/3rds of the time.

Kobe can easily be tricked into chucking 25-30 shots a game at a poor %. Kobe thinks he's much better than he actually is, so it isn't difficult to lull him into doing it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

backing off or not doesnt maake a difference

kobie will continue taking stupid low % shots, as long no one else is shooting but himself is acceptable to him

makes hard shots look easy, while easy shots look hard...nothing more then a fluke artist

[Koolaid_Man]

exactly what I've been trying to say this whole thread, OP is literally brain dead. His jumper is the only thing close to a weakness and I've heard several analysts refer to Lebron as the greatest driver / slasher in the history of the league, so no shit you're gonna want him to shoot a long jumper instead

please that bald headed Ho plays in a era and a conference where they're are no real dominant 4's or 5's...that nigga got shit easy...they back off him because he cannot shoot...he can drive the lane but there's no prime Duncan and Robinson waiting for him like they waited for Kobe....Lebron has no one to challenge him at the rim like Duncan did Kobe :hat

[Koolaid_Man]

I bout ready to back Spur fan into a corner....by the time I get through with their asses they're gonna either agree with me on my assessment or flat out start calling their boy Tammy as fake as pussy...either way I'm gonna win the arguement....Bring me your ass Spur fan...and watch Kool work his magic ;-)

[SpurSwag]

please that bald headed Ho plays in a era and a conference where they're are no real dominant 4's or 5's...that nigga got shit easy...they back off him because he cannot shoot...he can drive the lane but there's no prime Duncan and Robinson waiting for him like they waited for Kobe....Lebron has no one to challenge him at the rim like Duncan did Kobe :hat

again, what the fuck are you even talking about. Duncan's defensive numbers are as good as ever, so that argument makes no sense. This change to universal stretch 4's didn't even happen really until he himself made the change happen when he went to Miami and positionless basketball took over, but he still had 2 MVP's prior and was only getting better.

it's so funny how laker fans try to come up with every metric or reason possible to defend Kobe's all time place over Lebron's when the argument isn't even close. And while there may have been better defensive big men during Kobe's run, LeBron was never even remotely blessed with the type of player in Shaq that allowed him to 3 peat and take so much pressure off of him. Yes Kobe contributed mightily to those 3 rings but Shaq was easily the best player for the majority of all 3 runs and without him and placing an average big man there, Kobe doesn't get a single one. Kobe's teammates have been better than Lebron's over their careers, and it's not even close.

[SpurSwag]

Players would immediately foul Shaq if he had the ball and send him to the line. You would never see anyone do that to Jermaine O'Neal. Jermaine is better than shaq because of that then right :cry

right!?!?!:cry:cry:cry

[JohnnyMax]

Teams don't back away from Steph Curry either. Does not mean Curry is better than Lebron.

Better question is why does Kobe suck at driving to the basket. Even when he was young, he was never as good as Lebron, Wade or Tony Parker. Its one of the reasons why he is not as good as Michael Jordan. And why is career fieldgoal percentage is 45 percent while Wade, Lebron and Jordan all have over 49 percent.