Kobe Bryant is the Most Overrated Superstar of All-Time

[BoricuaSpursFan]

Kirby has been over-rated for the greater part of his career. When most people talk about him, they talk about his scoring titles and his 5 championship rings, along with his reputation as a fierce competitor.What they fail to talk about are his glaring weaknesses in his resume. In his first 3 championship runs, Kobe played second fiddle to center Shaquille O’Neal, as evidenced by Daddy winning all of the Finals’ MVPs of those years. As well as winning the Finals’ MVPs, he led the team in scoring in every game but 2 games throughout 3 years worth of finals games.

God ....................................:lol

48.5 ....................................:lol

The Tape .............................:lol

MVPau babysitting Kirby........:lol

Making Oden look good..........:lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wait...so scoring determines if he was second fiddle or not?

Kobe led the Lakers in scoring 18/35 games and 4/8 series in the 01 and 02 playoffs.

[BoricuaSpursFan]

Have you seen your top 10 list? :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

Have you seen your top 10 list? :lol
What's wrong with it besides the controversial spot for Mikan?

[Michael Jordan.]

What's wrong with it besides the controversial spot for Mikan?
:lol well one is Kobe above Hakeem

[Deuce Bigalow]

Funny thing is AGAINST YOUR SPURS Kobe was the Lakers leading scorer in every playoff series except '99.

Silly spurfan

[gnsf0946]

:sleep another Kobe thread

[BoricuaSpursFan]

That doesn't mean he isn't overrated.

[Clipper Nation]

What's wrong with it besides the controversial spot for Mikan?
:lmao Tired Old Quitbag ranked over Shaq, West, Oscar, Duncan, Mikan, Wilt, Hakeem, LeBron, Pettit, Baylor, Dr. J and Moses

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lmao Tired Old Quitbag ranked over Shaq, West, Oscar, Duncan, Mikan, Wilt, Hakeem, LeBron, Pettit, Baylor, Dr. J and Moses
Yeah Kobe's had a great career dude. Don't see the problem.

5 rings
2 fmvps
1 mvp
2 scoring titles
15 allnba teams
11 allnba first teams
16 allstar teams
4th most points
3rd most playoff points
led the playoffs in scoring 3 times
top 5 in mvp voting 11 times
top 3 in mvp voting 5 times
5th most 30-point games
3rd most 40-point games
3rd most 50-point games
2nd most 60-point games
2nd most 30-point playoff games
4th most 40-point playoff games

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol 1 MVP

[Clipper Nation]

:lol 1 MVP

:lol That he didn't even deserve, btw.... and listing all the 50- and 60-point games as if we're supposed to slurp his blatant statpadding and chucking :lmao

[spurraider21]

:lol missing playoffs in his prime

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lol 1 MVP
But Hakeem (1), Oscar (1), Shaq (1), West (0), Baylor (0) are supposed to rank higher though? At least be consistent.

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lol missing playoffs in his prime
Then Wilt, Kareem, Oscar, Hakeem, Lebron can't be top 10 either.

[Clipper Nation]

But Hakeem (1), Oscar (1), Shaq (1), West (0), Baylor (0) are supposed to rank higher though? At least be consistent.

:lol More quits than MVPs

[Deuce Bigalow]

I should also mention that his 05-06 average of 35.4 ppg was the 8th highest ever and the highest since 86-87 MJ. Probably wont be surpassed for a while, only see Durant being capable of doing it any time soon.

Wonder where Duncan's "great" season is?

[Clipper Nation]

Then Wilt, Kareem, Oscar, Hakeem, Lebron can't be top 10 either.
Since when did LeBron miss the playoffs in his prime? He missed them in his first two years when he was 19 and 20 years old, that's not his prime, dumbass :lol

[Clipper Nation]

I should also mention that his 05-06 average of 35.4 ppg was the 8th highest ever and the highest since 86-87 MJ.

Kirbystan obsessing over scoring and ignoring the rest of the sport per the usual :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

Since when did LeBron miss the playoffs in his prime? He missed them in his first two years when he was 19 and 20 years old, that's not his prime, dumbass :lol
04-05 he averaged 27/7/7 and had a career high in points too before his 62 this year.

[Michael Jordan.]

But Hakeem (1), Oscar (1), Shaq (1), West (0), Baylor (0) are supposed to rank higher though? At least be consistent.

Centers generally don't win MVPs. Guards do, and he couldn't even win mroe than 1 as the supposed "best player in the league"

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kirbystan obsessing over scoring and ignoring the rest of the sport per the usual :lol
35.4 ppg along with 5.3 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.8 spg, on 45/35/85 shooting. Basically averaged 35/5/5...

[Clipper Nation]

Kirby has been over-rated for the greater part of his career. When most people talk about him, they talk about his scoring titles and his 5 championship rings, along with his fake-ass reputation as a fierce competitor who really quits in the face of adversity.What they fail to talk about are his glaring weaknesses in his resume. In his first 3 championship runs, Kobe played second fiddle to center Shaquille O’Neal, as evidenced by Daddy winning all of the Finals’ MVPs of those years. As well as winning the Finals’ MVPs, he led the team in scoring in every game but 2 games throughout 3 years worth of finals games. Eventually Kirby forced Daddy out, quit, and then needed MVPau to carry him.
Fixed for accuracy :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

Centers generally don't win MVPs. Guards do, and he couldn't even win mroe than 1 as the supposed "best player in the league"
He led the league in scoring in 06 and 07 though.

[Michael Jordan.]

He led the league in scoring in 06 and 07 though.

And his team was not better off for it.

[FromWayDowntown]

http://deadspin.com/who-are-the-bitchiest-most-defensive-fans-in-america-1542968511

Who Are The Bitchiest, Most Defensive Fans In America?


Sports: The "Best Fans In Baseball!" Regional

1. Soccer fans

American soccer fans believe that soccer ought to be the most popular sport in America, but is not because of stubborn, jingoistic assholes like you, who refuse to give soccer a chance. You probably complain about soccer without ever watching it, and therefore nothing you say holds any weight. Do you hate low scoring, dives, crypto-fascist fans, and/or grotesque oligarchs? Well, clearly you're just some mouth-breathing rube who has to be babysat at all times by made baskets and cheap touchdown passes. And if you say one more thing about how you don't like the offsides rule, you can go to hell.

(juggles Adidas ball between knees)

(makes unintelligible rallying cry for some asshole EPL team)

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11. Kobe Bryant fans

Currently the NBA's best player. RIGHT NOW. AT THIS MOMENT. Even when he's unable to play. Say the word "Colorado." Go on. I fucking dare you.


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Thank you for voting!

St. Louis Cardinals fans 51.05% (10,236 votes)


Kobe Bryant fans 48.95% (9,813 votes)

[Michael Jordan.]

Didn't know that about Cardinal fans.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Centers dont win MVP though? Kareem 6, Russell 5, Wilt 4, Moses 3 lol ok

What's different with the MVP award nowadays is the team record factor and who votes for the award. Players used to vote for the award, now the media does. Kareem won an MVP with a team record of 40-42. Kobe's team win 45 games in 06 but they give it to Nash since his team won 54.

[Clipper Nation]

Didn't know that about Cardinal fans.

Only Yankees and Red Sox fans are worse than Cardinal fans in baseball.... they're a bunch of smug pricks who have actually convinced themselves that they're "the best fans in baseball" and have adopted a contrived faux-classy act :lol

[BoricuaSpursFan]

Tbh, media gifted him that MVP. We all know it belonged to Chris Paul. One and done, as supposedly greatest player of generation. :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

And his team was not better off for it.
Oh really?

05-06 Kobe when he played: 45-35
2-0 when he scored 60+
4-2 when he scored 50+
16-9 when he scored 40+
33-23 when he scored 30+

Lol

[BoricuaSpursFan]

Oh really?

05-06 Kobe when he played: 45-35
2-0 when he scored 60+
4-2 when he scored 50+
16-9 when he scored 40+
33-23 when he scored 30+

Lol

That is a horrible stat...... :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

06-07 Kobe: 39-38
60+ points: 2-0
50+ points: 7-3
40+ points: 13-5
30+ points: 21-17

[spurraider21]

Then Wilt, Kareem, Oscar, Hakeem, Lebron can't be top 10 either.
when did lebron miss the playoffs in his prime?

[Michael Jordan.]

Centers dont win MVP though? Kareem 6, Russell 5, Wilt 4, Moses 3 lol ok

What's different with the MVP award nowadays is the team record factor and who votes for the award. Players used to vote for the award, now the media does. Kareem won an MVP with a team record of 40-42. Kobe's team win 45 games in 06 but they give it to Nash since his team won 54.

I said they generally don't win MVP, or Shaq and Hakeem would have more than one. MVP generally goes to guards, or forwards because that's who the game has been tailored to.

[Michael Jordan.]

Oh really?

05-06 Kobe when he played: 45-35
2-0 when he scored 60+
4-2 when he scored 50+
16-9 when he scored 40+
33-23 when he scored 30+

Lol
Where did they go? Was that the year he quit against D'antoni?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Where did they go? Was that the year he quit against D'antoni?
5 championships for his career is where the team went.

[Michael Jordan.]

5 championships for his career is where the team went.

Quit against D'antoni twice, who didn't even preach defense. Christ almighty!

[BoricuaSpursFan]

5 championships for his career is where the team went.

3 with Daddy....

[Clipper Nation]

3 with Daddy....
....and 2 with MVPau.

5 role-player rings and none as the alpha for the supposed "next MJ." Christ!

[Michael Jordan.]

3 with Daddy....

And 2 with a dominant front court of Odom-Gasol-Bynum. Christ!

[Deuce Bigalow]

I said they generally don't win MVP, or Shaq and Hakeem would have more than one. MVP generally goes to guards, or forwards because that's who the game has been tailored to.
It goes to them because their teams win the most amount of games.

[Deuce Bigalow]

And 2 with a dominant front court of Odom-Gasol-Bynum. Christ!
Post "dominant" Bynum's playoff stats in the b2b please. And how about his stats in the 08 playoffs too when they made the Finals?

[Michael Jordan.]

It goes to them because their teams win the most amount of games.

Nash won in 05-06 without his team winning the most amount of games.

[BoricuaSpursFan]

Let me refresh Deucey...

Kobe's NBA Finals Stats vs Shaq's NBA Finals Stats

1999-2000 vs Indiana Pacers
Shaquille O'Neal: 38ppg 16rpg 2apg 61%FG
Kobe Bryant: 15ppg 4rpg 4apg 36%FG


2000-2001 vs Philadelphia 76ers
Shaquille O'Neal: 33ppg 15rpg 4apg 57%FG
Kobe Bryant: 24ppg 7rpg 5apg 41%FG


2001-2002 vs New Jersey Nets
Shaquille O'Neal: 36ppg 12rpg 3apg 59%FG
Kobe Bryant: 26ppg 5rpg 5apg 51%FG


2003-2004 vs Detroit Pistons
Shaquille O'Neal: 26ppg 10rpg 1apg 63%FG
Kobe Bryant: 22ppg 2rpg 4apg 38%FG

[Clipper Nation]

http://swishnba.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/photo.jpg?w=300&h=300

A supposed top-6 player of all time, bailed out in consecutive years by MVPau, who Deuce didn't even rank. Christ!

[Deuce Bigalow]

Nash won in 05-06 without his team winning the most amount of games.
Not the most but one of the most.

[spurraider21]

inb4 deuce starts citing kobe's FT%/TS%

[Deuce Bigalow]

Entire Playoffs

00
Shaq 31/15/3 56%TS
Kobe 21/5/4 52%TS

01
Shaq 30/15/3 56%TS
Kobe 29/7/6 56%TS

02
Shaq 29/13/3 57%TS
Kobe 27/6/5 51%TS

tbh

[Jodelo]

Let me refresh Deucey...

Kobe's NBA Finals Stats vs Shaq's NBA Finals Stats

1999-2000 vs Indiana Pacers
Shaquille O'Neal: 38ppg 16rpg 2apg 61%FG
Kobe Bryant: 15ppg 4rpg 4apg 36%FG


2000-2001 vs Philadelphia 76ers
Shaquille O'Neal: 33ppg 15rpg 4apg 57%FG
Kobe Bryant: 24ppg 7rpg 5apg 41%FG


2001-2002 vs New Jersey Nets
Shaquille O'Neal: 36ppg 12rpg 3apg 59%FG
Kobe Bryant: 26ppg 5rpg 5apg 51%FG


2003-2004 vs Detroit Pistons
Shaquille O'Neal: 26ppg 10rpg 1apg 63%FG
Kobe Bryant: 22ppg 2rpg 4apg 38%FG

Those FG% by Kome. :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

36% in 2000 is even more embarrassing than 38% in 2004.... a supposed top-6 player of all time, outplayed by Austin Croshere. Christ!

[Deuce Bigalow]

3peat playoffs cumulative

Shaq 30/15/3 56%TS
Kobe 25/6/5 53%TS

01 and 02 playoffs cumulative

Shaq 30/15/3 56%TS
Kobe 28/7/5 53%TS

Western conference playoffs - First 3 rounds

00
Shaq 28/15/3 55%FG/55%TS
Kobe 23/4/5 46%FG/55%TS

01
Shaq 29/15/3 55%FG/56%TS
Kobe 32/7/6 49%FG/58%TS

02
Shaq 26/13/3 51%FG/55%TS
Kobe 27/6/4 42%FG/49%TS

[BoricuaSpursFan]

3peat playoffs cumulative

Shaq 30/15/3 56%TS
Kobe 25/6/5 53%TS

01 and 02 playoffs cumulative

Shaq 30/15/3 56%TS
Kobe 28/7/5 53%TS

Western conference playoffs - First 3 rounds

00
Shaq 28/15/3 55%FG/55%TS
Kobe 23/4/5 46%FG/55%TS

01
Shaq 29/15/3 55%FG/56%TS
Kobe 32/7/6 49%FG/58%TS

02
Shaq 26/13/3 51%FG/55%TS
Kobe 27/6/4 42%FG/49%TS

Which further proves my point that Kirby shitted the bed even worse when he played in all of his finals. MVPau could have won those Finals MVP's also.

[Robz4000]

Only Yankees and Red Sox fans are worse than Cardinal fans in baseball.... they're a bunch of smug pricks who have actually convinced themselves that they're "the best fans in baseball" and have adopted a contrived faux-classy act :lol

Philly fans are even worse tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

bona fide role player...lmao