gun grabbing Dem Senator Lee charged with gun trafficking

[TSA]

This deserves it's own thread.


This fucking piece of Democratic shit has been trying to disarm Californians every chance he gets. I hope he dies in prison, death by big black dick.


http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/California-State-Senator-Leland-Yee-Arrested-on-Bribery-And-Corruption-Charges-252452181.html


California state Sen. Leland Yee is facing a slew of corruption charges as part of a massive FBI sting operation that surfaced allegations of firearms trafficking, money laundering, murder-for-hire and drug distribution.

A federal complaint unsealed Wednesday accuses the San Francisco Democrat of engaging in a conspiracy to traffic firearms and accepting campaign donations in exchange for official acts. In one instance, Yee, who has been a strong advocate for gun control during his decade in the state Legislature, warning that such business dealings are "not for the faint of heart," according to the complaint.

He was charged with conspiracy to traffic in firearms without a license, and to illegally import firearms as well as a scheme to defraud citizens of honest services.

Yee and Raymond "Shrimp Boy" Chow, leader of the Chee Kung Tong Free Masons in San Francisco, were among 26 defendants charged in the federal criminal complaint Wednesday, U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag of the Northern District of California said.

The federal criminal complaint, filed on March 24, charges the defendants with firearms trafficking, money laundering, murder-for-hire, drug distribution, trafficking in contraband cigarettes and honest services fraud, the FBI announced. According to the affidavit

If convicted on all charges, Yee could face more than 100 years in prison. His bail was set at $500,000, unsecured, with the provision that he not leave the state. He was released from custody late Wednesday afternoon.


criminal complaint here

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/complaint_affidavit_14-70421-nc.pdf

[TeyshaBlue]

Shrimp Boy ftw!:lol

[Th'Pusher]

This deserves it's own thread.


This fucking piece of Democratic shit has been trying to disarm Californians every chance he gets. I hope he dies in prison, death by big black dick.



You understand this is a hyper-emotional reaction, right?

[TSA]

You understand this is a hyper-emotional reaction, right?

Sure do, it fucking pisses me off. Do you have a point?

[Th'Pusher]

Sure do, it fucking pisses me off. Do you have a point?

The point is that you think with your heart and not your head. You do not use logic and reason. You're an emotional man.

[TSA]

The point is that you think with your heart and not your head. You do not use logic and reason. You're an emotional man.

Lee was a gun grabber.
Lee was involved in gun trafficking.

What is the logical reaction to this oh wise one?

[TSA]

Pusher do you have a wife or girlfriend? If so what is her reaction when you are flat lining in bed with your logical orgasm?

[Th'Pusher]

Lee was a gun grabber.
Lee was involved in gun trafficking.

What is the logical reaction to this oh wise one?

Justice system appears to be working here. No need to get emotional.

[TeyshaBlue]

The point is that you think with your heart and not your head. You do not use logic and reason. You're an emotional man.

ok.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229004&p=7128853&viewfull=1#post7128853

I know. I'll gfmyself now.

[Th'Pusher]

ok.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229004&p=7128853&viewfull=1#post7128853

I know. I'll gfmyself now.


From that thread...


Why bother with something as trivial as the truth when the ox being gored has an R by his name, right?

The difference is, I din't GAF when Menendez, or the guy in the OP or the the Mayor of San Diego, or any other guy with a D next to his name's Ox is being gored either.

[ChumpDumper]

How much cheaper are contraband cigarettes anyway?

I personally think the murder thing might be more important than the trafficking.

[TSA]

Justice system appears to be working here. No need to get emotional.

Why don't you just ignore your emotions that cause you to follow me around?

[TSA]

And where the hell is boutons? He kept that Christie bridge scandal alive and kicking, thought he'd at least chime in on this one.

[Th'Pusher]

Why don't you just ignore your emotions that cause you to follow me around?

I thought you were good at this? You seem a bit rattled there emo.

[TSA]

I thought you were good at this? You seem a bit rattled there emo.

Ah yes you got me there. Anonymous poster telling me I'm emotional really got me rattled, totally trolled me. What ever will I do now?

[TSA]

Is your need to respond to me all day based in logic or emotion?

[baseline bum]

CROFL, hope Charlie gets his throat slit in Folsom.

[TSA]

CROFL, hope Charlie gets his throat slit in Folsom.

No death by inmate dicking?

[baseline bum]

No death by inmate dicking?

As long as he leaves in a bag I'm good.

[Th'Pusher]

Ah yes you got me there. Anonymous poster telling me I'm emotional really got me rattled, totally trolled me. What ever will I do now?
I'm not the self proclaimed troll. I just like to point out how you allow your emotions to drive your decision making and your biases...particularly when it comes to your obsession with guns. It's ironic because you like to paint "liberals" as emotional. You're as emotional as they come.

[TeyshaBlue]

From that thread...



The difference is, I din't GAF when Menendez, or the guy in the OP or the the Mayor of San Diego, or any other guy with a D next to his name's Ox is being gored either.

"The guy is either a liar or a felon." says otherwise.
That's not exactly meh. Sounds like fucks were given.

[TSA]

I'm not the self proclaimed troll. I just like to point out how you allow your emotions to drive your decision making and your biases...particularly when it comes to your obsession with guns. It's ironic because you like to paint "liberals" as emotional. You're as emotional as they come.
It does not seem logical to continue responding to a self proclaimed troll, control your emotions.

[Th'Pusher]

"The guy is either a liar or a felon." says otherwise.
That's not exactly meh. Sounds like fucks were given.
Nah. Just poking the cobra with a stick.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol...kinda what I was trying to do to you.:lol

[TSA]

:sleep
Nah. Just poking the cobra with a stick. :sleep

[TSA]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/27/california-senator-netted-in-american-hustle-type-fbi-sting/

Call it “American Hustle” gone West. An elaborate FBI sting culminated this week after two undercover officers -- who posed as East Coast Mafia members -- helped take down 26 Californians, including an influential state senator with alleged ties to an Asian mob.

State Sen. Leland Yee, an outspoken Democrat who is a gun control and open government advocate, was arrested Wednesday on charges he conspired to traffic in firearms and traded favors in Sacramento for bribes. He was allegedly taking bribes from men who turned out to be FBI agents.

Yee, who was running for secretary of state and currently represents half of San Francisco, was being held on $500,000 bail after appearing handcuffed and shackled in federal court. He reportedly withdrew from the secretary of state race on Thursday.

He was charged with six counts of depriving the public of honest services and one count of conspiracy to traffic in guns without a license.

The criminal complaint contained dramatic details about Yee's alleged efforts to connect an undercover agent with a firearms dealer. It described a January 2014 meeting where the senator told the agent that the arms business was not for "the faint of heart." The arrangement developed, with Yee and others allegedly working to connect the agent with high-powered weapons -- including shoulder-fired missiles and automatic weapons -- from a Muslim rebel group in the Philippines.

"Do I think we can make some money? I think we can make some money," the senator allegedly said in one of the meetings.

The deal was supposedly worth between $500,000 and $2.5 million.

Despite his stances on gun control, Yee allegedly described himself as "agnostic" in these dealings.

"People want to get whatever they want to get. Do I care? No, I don't care. People need certain things," he said, according to the complaint.

Court documents say he was just one of more than two dozen people caught up in the five-year federal probe. Initially, agents were interested in going after Raymond “Shrimp Boy” Chow, a notorious gangster who ran a Chinese criminal organization with ties to Hong Kong.

According to the FBI’s 137-page complaint, Chow and five other defendants laundered $2.3 million for undercover agents between March 2011 and December 2013. According to the FBI, the defendants were told the money came from crimes like illegal gambling, drug dealing and marijuana growing.

Chow, who was previously convicted on gun charges, was recently celebrated by the Chinese community in the area as an example of successful rehabilitation. He has been praised in recent months for his work in the immigrant-heavy community.

Most of the suspects netted in the FBI investigation are linked to the Chinatown brotherhood association that Chow heads known as Ghee Kung Tong. The group’s headquarters were raided Wednesday and members were charged with trafficking in illicit guns, liquor and cigarettes.

The FBI report says undercover agents infiltrated the Chow’s group so effectively that one agent, while posing as a member of La Cosa Nostra, was “inducted” as a consultant.

Mark Hedlund, spokesman for Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, confirmed that the FBI searched Yee's office on Wednesday.

Steinberg said he had no comment and did not know anything about the investigation.

Yee is the third Democratic senator to face charges this year. Sen. Rod Wright was convicted of perjury and voter fraud for lying about his legal residence in Los Angeles County, and Sen. Ron Calderon has been indicted on federal corruption charges. Wright and Calderon are taking a voluntary leave of absence, with pay, although Republicans have called for them to be suspended or expelled from the Legislature.

He is best known publicly for his efforts to strengthen open records, government transparency and whistleblower protection laws, including legislation to close a loophole in state public records laws after the CSU Stanislaus Foundation refused to release its $75,000 speaking contract with former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin in 2010.

Yee's arrest came as a shock to Chinese-Americans who see the senator as a pioneering leader in the community and a mainstay of San Francisco politics, said David Lee, director of the Chinese American Voters Education Committee.

"People are waiting to see what happens, and they are hoping for the best, that the charges turn out not to be true," said Lee, whose organization just held a get-out-the-vote event with Yee and other Chinese-American elected officials last week.

For his efforts to uphold the California Public Records Act, Yee was honored last week by the Northern California chapter of the Society of Professional Journalists, which awarded him its public official citation for his efforts last year to maintain the requirements of the California Public Records Act.

Yee has at times clashed with fellow Democrats for casting votes of conscience, refusing to support the Democratic budget proposal in 2011 because of its deep cuts to education, social services and education. He also opposed legislation by a fellow Democrat, Assemblyman Paul Fong of Cupertino, that banned the sale of shark fins used for Chinese shark fin soup, saying that it unfairly targeted the Chinese-American community.

Yee served in the California Senate since 2006 and his district represents both San Francisco and San Mateo County. He previously was a member of the California Assembly, and is the first Chinese American elected to the California State Senate.

Yee is among three Democrats running this year for secretary of state, the office that oversees elections and campaign finance reporting. He lost a bid for mayor of San Francisco in 2011.

A man was charged last year for threatening Yee over legislation that he proposed to limit rapid reloading of assault weapons. The bill would have prohibited the use of devices that allow users to swiftly reload military-style assault weapons. Lee also authored legislation that that would have required the state to study safe storage of firearms.

Chow acknowledged in an unpublished autobiography that he ran prostitution rings in the 1980s, smuggled drugs and extorted thousands from business owners as a Chinatown gang member, KGO-TV reported two years ago.

In 1992, Chow was among more than two-dozen people indicted on racketeering charges for their alleged involvement in crimes ranging from teenage prostitution to an international drug trade mostly involving heroin.

He was later convicted of gun charges and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. He spent 11 years in prison and was released in 2003 after he cut a deal with the government to testify against another high-ranking associate, Peter Chong. Chong was later convicted of racketeering.

But Chow told KGO-TV in a 2012 interview that he had changed and was working with at-risk children in San Francisco.

U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California issued a statement in 2012 recognizing Chow as a former offender who had become an asset to his community, the Sacramento Bee reported. Chow was also praised by San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee for his "willingness to give back to the community," the Bee reported.

[TSA]

Chow, who was previously convicted on gun charges, was recently celebrated by the Chinese community in the area as an example of successful rehabilitation. He has been praised in recent months for his work in the immigrant-heavy community.

In 1992, Chow was among more than two-dozen people indicted on racketeering charges for their alleged involvement in crimes ranging from teenage prostitution to an international drug trade mostly involving heroin.

He was later convicted of gun charges and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. He spent 11 years in prison and was released in 2003 after he cut a deal with the government to testify against another high-ranking associate, Peter Chong. Chong was later convicted of racketeering.

But Chow told KGO-TV in a 2012 interview that he had changed and was working with at-risk children in San Francisco.

U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California issued a statement in 2012 recognizing Chow as a former offender who had become an asset to his community, the Sacramento Bee reported. Chow was also praised by San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee for his "willingness to give back to the community," the Bee reported.

:lol

[DisAsTerBot]

what a pos

[angrydude]

Now we know why he wanted to disarm innocent people.

[TSA]

Funny how nbadan and boutons nearly ejactulated on each other over the Christie scandal and are STILL no where to be seen. What a bunch of pussies. I will continue to remind them of this as needed.

[TSA]

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/leeland-yee_zpsb6a65d0b.jpg (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/thefuzzylumpkins/media/leeland-yee_zpsb6a65d0b.jpg.html)

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/yee3_zpsec8c1bb7.jpg (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/thefuzzylumpkins/media/yee3_zpsec8c1bb7.jpg.html)

[TSA]

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/yee2_zps2b3f63e8.jpg (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/thefuzzylumpkins/media/yee2_zps2b3f63e8.jpg.html)

:lmao

[TSA]

As noted by CBS, Yee was an outspoken advocate for gun control, sponsoring legislation that would have closed a loophole in California’s ban on assault weapons – ultimately vetoed by Gov. Jerry Brown. In an interview with the station, Yee said that despite vocal opposition by gun rights supporters, he felt strongly about limiting access to guns by criminals.

“This is not an easy issue,” Yee told CBS in 2012. “But I am a father, and I want our communities to be safe, and god forbid if one of these weapons fell into the wrong hands.”

[spurraider21]

why isnt boutons spamming new york times articles on this thread?

[Winehole23]

too conservative, probably

[TeyshaBlue]

lol...I'm sure this didnt show up in his moonbat RSS feed.

[boutons_deux]

you ankle biters are OBSESSED with The Great Boutons. :lol

as much as TSA is obsessed with fellating her guns.

[Th'Pusher]

I like the way the thread devolved into a where's boutons saga because the op is so politically insignificant. A currupt California State senator is a blip on the map, yet it has TSA in an emotional tailspin. He even changed his avi :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

you ankle biters are OBSESSED with The Great Boutons. :lol

as much as TSA is obsessed with fellating her guns.

'Sup, stalker?

[TeyshaBlue]

I like the way the thread devolved into a where's boutons saga because the op is so politically insignificant. A currupt California State senator is a blip on the map, yet it has TSA in an emotional tailspin. He even changed his avi :lol

A senator involved in weapon trafficking? Not exactly a minor thing, Push.

[Winehole23]

bribery and weapons trafficking in his own political tribe?

"politically insignificant"

[Th'Pusher]

A senator involved in weapon trafficking? Not exactly a minor thing, Push.

State senator. The incident will be politically insignificant on a national level. Fodder for rabble rousing gun nuts like TSA but nothing more. California won't be going red anytime soon as a result of this either.

[Th'Pusher]

Is fox even running with this story?

[boutons_deux]

Is fox even running with this story?

Fox would champion a gun trafficker :)

[Winehole23]

California won't be going red anytime soon as a result of this either.
no one said it would. lol strawman.


Fodder for rabble rousing gun nuts like TSA but nothing more.It's presumably meaningful to Yee's constituents that their state senator is hypocritical and corrupt. Locally it's not insignificant.

[Th'Pusher]

no one said it would. lol strawman.

It's presumably meaningful to Yee's constituents that their state senator is hypocritical and corrupt. Locally it's not insignificant.
That's my point, hence my comment "politically insignificant nationally." And my strawman was to point out that even local to the state of California, this is politically insignificant...

[Winehole23]

so then, bribery and corruption are politically insignificant so long as there are no ill effects to the party in power at the polls.

[Winehole23]

are bribery and gun trafficking by politicians newsworthy? meritorious of denunciation?

[Th'Pusher]

so then, bribery and corruption are politically insignificant so long as there are no ill effects to the party in power at the polls.

Correct.

[Winehole23]

(asked and answered)

[Th'Pusher]

are bribery and gun trafficking by politicians newsworthy? meritorious of denunciation?

Absolutely. Newsworthy and meritous of denunciation. That said, the people in this thread seemed to care more about boutons lack of a comment than they were about denouncing the state senator...

TSA seems to be wildly affected by this though, so there is that.

[TeyshaBlue]

Correct.

lol....what is the threshold for relevance?:lol

[boutons_deux]

A Repug US attorney got fired for jailing Repug Duke Cunningham. I wonder if anybody US attorney or prosecutor will get fired for taking this Dem guy down

[TeyshaBlue]

Absolutely. Newsworthy and meritous of denunciation. That said, the people in this thread seemed to care more about boutons lack of a comment than they were about denouncing the state senator...

TSA seems to be wildly affected by this though, so there is that.
That the poster boy of hypocrisy is called out should not be a surprise.

[Winehole23]

take a look in the mirror, TP. just like the posters you slight for emotionalism, you seem to prefer the flame war to topical posting.

[TeyshaBlue]

That the poster boy of hypocrisy is called out should not be a surprise.

And yes, Push. Either/or/both.:lol

[Th'Pusher]

lol....what is the threshold for relevance?:lol

Politically? You know the answer to that. My point is that there will be no political ramifications for the Democratic Party, nationally or even regionally.

[Winehole23]

still spinning . . .

[Th'Pusher]

take a look in the mirror, TP. just like the posters you slight for emotionalism, you seem to prefer the flame war to topical posting.
Guilty (in this thread), but my point still stands re political ramifications...

[TeyshaBlue]

Politically? You know the answer to that. My point is that there will be no political ramifications for the Democratic Party, nationally or even regionally.

Pretty sure even I could run against a gun-running senator with a decent chance to win.

[TSA]

TSA seems to be wildly affected by this though, so there is that.wildly affected :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

And I'm no Schwarzenegger, girly man!

[DisAsTerBot]

if anybody's wildly affected ITT it's Push

[Winehole23]

Guilty (in this thread)...There's nothing wrong with flame wars. I enjoy a good one myself. What grates is alternating between participation and pretending to be somewhat above it.

[Th'Pusher]

Pretty sure even I could run against a gun-running senator with a decent chance to win.

As long as you had a (D) following your name. Voter registration 15.9% republican for the district.

[z0sa]

Correct.

:lmao

[TSA]

My point is that there will be no political ramifications for the Democratic Party, nationally or even regionally.



http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0331/California-Democrats-intent-on-damage-control-after-Leland-Yee-arrest-video

The stunning arrest and subsequent suspension from the California Senate of veteran politician Leland Yee (D) will alter the balance of power in California politics, boosting the influence of Republicans in the state capital and eroding, at least temporarily, Democratic dominance in the very blue Golden State.

But whether the Democrats' retrenchment lasts will depend on how closely California voters are paying attention – and how long their memories are, political analysts say.

Senator Yee, arrested last week after a five-year FBI sting operation, faces federal charges related to conspiracy to traffic in firearms without a license and accepting campaign funds in exchange for political favors. His Senate colleagues voted Friday to suspend him. A Los Angeles Times headline read, “Even old hands are stunned by Yee allegations.”

“If there ever has been a more nauseating corruption scandal in Sacramento, I’m not aware of it. Certainly not in the past 50 years,” writes Times political columnist George Skelton. “The notion of a legislator masquerading as a gun control crusader while offering to help a mobster traffic in automatic rifles and rocket launchers is beyond hypocrisy. It’s sick.”

The immediate consequence is that Yee's suspension – along with two other recent suspensions of Democratic senators over different matters –shifts the power balance in the legislature by removing the Senate supermajority enjoyed by Democrats. That means Democrats now will need at least some GOP support to approve their initiatives, which currently range from an $11 billion water bond measure to creating a budgetary rainy-day fund to raising taxes on oil companies.

Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a senior fellow at the School of Policy, Planning, and Development at the University of Southern California, says that if she were advising Democrats, she would simply say, “don’t bring up any major issues for now.”

Longer term, the Yee case may fuel anti-incumbent sentiment among voters in this year's elections, possibly giving Republican candidates a boost after years of experiencing a steady ballot-box decline.

“The Yee saga represents a potential political earthquake that California goes through about every 10 to 15 years,”says David McCuan, a political scientist at Sonoma State University. “To wit ... 2003 and the recall of Governor [Gray] Davis and the rise of Arnold Schwarzenegger.”

Others don't see the consequences as that large.

“The Yee scandal could give Republicans a talking point that could help them win a couple of marginal Democratic seats,” says Jack Pitney, professor of government at Claremont McKenna College. “If that happens, Democrats will need GOP votes for any measure requiring a supermajority. Republicans will regain a bit of relevance.”

The size of the ripple effect will depend on yet-to-emerge details about the Yee case, and on whether voters are paying attention, analysts say. That usually means short-term damage but a longer-term reprieve.

“The Yee case involves a respectable person doing unspeakable things with garish criminals. It's a mix of 'Breaking Bad,' 'House of Cards,' and 'The Wire,' ” says Mr. Pitney. “People pay attention, which is why the suspensions followed so fast" after Yee's arrest.

At least one Republican is not banking on a backlash from Democratic voters in California to upend politics as usual.

“All it will mean in the short term is that …now if Democrats want to get legislation passed they need to get the support of some Republicans for the legislation,” says Gary Aminoff, vice chairman of the Republican Party of Los Angeles County. “I think it might help get some Republicans elected to the legislature this year, but by 2016 it will be all but forgotten by voters.”

The scandal could affect the race for California secretary of state because Yee, who could not run again for state Senate because of term limits, had been a candidate prior to his arrest.

“This could affect the secretary of state race,” says Mr. McCuan, noting that the need for political reform could return as a big issue just as California marks the 40th anniversary of its path-breaking Political Reform Act, which was enacted after the Watergate scandal. Dan Schnur, a former GOP operative running for that office as an Independent, could use the Yee case as leverage, McCuan says.

It may also affect Asian-American voters and political candidates, says Ms. Jeffe, noting that Betty Yee, who is running for state controller, could see her campaign suffer by name association.

“It will be interesting to see if [Asian candidates and voters] are motivated more or less to participate in politics by this,” says Jeffe.

[Th'Pusher]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0331/California-Democrats-intent-on-damage-control-after-Leland-Yee-arrest-video

The stunning arrest and subsequent suspension from the California Senate of veteran politician Leland Yee (D) will alter the balance of power in California politics, boosting the influence of Republicans in the state capital and eroding, at least temporarily, Democratic dominance in the very blue Golden State.

But whether the Democrats' retrenchment lasts will depend on how closely California voters are paying attention – and how long their memories are, political analysts say.

Senator Yee, arrested last week after a five-year FBI sting operation, faces federal charges related to conspiracy to traffic in firearms without a license and accepting campaign funds in exchange for political favors. His Senate colleagues voted Friday to suspend him. A Los Angeles Times headline read, “Even old hands are stunned by Yee allegations.”

“If there ever has been a more nauseating corruption scandal in Sacramento, I’m not aware of it. Certainly not in the past 50 years,” writes Times political columnist George Skelton. “The notion of a legislator masquerading as a gun control crusader while offering to help a mobster traffic in automatic rifles and rocket launchers is beyond hypocrisy. It’s sick.”

The immediate consequence is that Yee's suspension – along with two other recent suspensions of Democratic senators over different matters –shifts the power balance in the legislature by removing the Senate supermajority enjoyed by Democrats. That means Democrats now will need at least some GOP support to approve their initiatives, which currently range from an $11 billion water bond measure to creating a budgetary rainy-day fund to raising taxes on oil companies.

Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a senior fellow at the School of Policy, Planning, and Development at the University of Southern California, says that if she were advising Democrats, she would simply say, “don’t bring up any major issues for now.”

Longer term, the Yee case may fuel anti-incumbent sentiment among voters in this year's elections, possibly giving Republican candidates a boost after years of experiencing a steady ballot-box decline.

“The Yee saga represents a potential political earthquake that California goes through about every 10 to 15 years,”says David McCuan, a political scientist at Sonoma State University. “To wit ... 2003 and the recall of Governor [Gray] Davis and the rise of Arnold Schwarzenegger.”

Others don't see the consequences as that large.

“The Yee scandal could give Republicans a talking point that could help them win a couple of marginal Democratic seats,” says Jack Pitney, professor of government at Claremont McKenna College. “If that happens, Democrats will need GOP votes for any measure requiring a supermajority. Republicans will regain a bit of relevance.”

The size of the ripple effect will depend on yet-to-emerge details about the Yee case, and on whether voters are paying attention, analysts say. That usually means short-term damage but a longer-term reprieve.

“The Yee case involves a respectable person doing unspeakable things with garish criminals. It's a mix of 'Breaking Bad,' 'House of Cards,' and 'The Wire,' ” says Mr. Pitney. “People pay attention, which is why the suspensions followed so fast" after Yee's arrest.

At least one Republican is not banking on a backlash from Democratic voters in California to upend politics as usual.

“All it will mean in the short term is that …now if Democrats want to get legislation passed they need to get the support of some Republicans for the legislation,” says Gary Aminoff, vice chairman of the Republican Party of Los Angeles County. “I think it might help get some Republicans elected to the legislature this year, but by 2016 it will be all but forgotten by voters.”

The scandal could affect the race for California secretary of state because Yee, who could not run again for state Senate because of term limits, had been a candidate prior to his arrest.

“This could affect the secretary of state race,” says Mr. McCuan, noting that the need for political reform could return as a big issue just as California marks the 40th anniversary of its path-breaking Political Reform Act, which was enacted after the Watergate scandal. Dan Schnur, a former GOP operative running for that office as an Independent, could use the Yee case as leverage, McCuan says.

It may also affect Asian-American voters and political candidates, says Ms. Jeffe, noting that Betty Yee, who is running for state controller, could see her campaign suffer by name association.

“It will be interesting to see if [Asian candidates and voters] are motivated more or less to participate in politics by this,” says Jeffe.

Nice link and from a reputable source! Glad to see there are experts that agree with my opinion and absolutely no one that thinks this will have national implications. :tu

[TSA]

My point is that there will be no political ramifications for the Democratic Party, nationally or even regionally.

[TSA]

What's really telling is your refusal to even discuss the OP. You brush off gun trafficking by a senator helping to arm criminals as if it's no big deal, yet you whine and moan about gun show loopholes arm criminals. Th'Pusher (D)

[Th'Pusher]

So 'no political ramifications' was a little hyperbolic. I should have said "very few political ramifications" and couched that as an opinion, but that's pretty much a given. Thanks again for the article.

I think I am going to continue to point out your hyper-emotional responses when I encounter them. I feel by doing so, I have driven you to search out rational, reputable news sources which can only benefit the forum as a whole. Keep up the good work. :toast

[Th'Pusher]

What's really telling is your refusal to even discuss the OP. You brush off gun trafficking by a senator helping to arm criminals as if it's no big deal, yet you whine and moan about gun show loopholes arm criminals. Th'Pusher (D)

I said the incident was:


Newsworthy and meritous of denunciation.

The guy is clearly a scumbag, But he's a state senator representing a state I don't live in. As I mentioned above, I think you and the forum as a whole would be better served by me calling out your uncontrollable emotions rather than piling on some obviously criminal state senator.

[TSA]

There is no fun in always posting reputable sources.

[Th'Pusher]

There is no fun in always posting reputable sources.

Oh. Right. You're a troll. I forgot.

[TSA]

Oh. Right. You're a troll. I forgot.
You forgot to throw in your go to emotional burn, you're slipping.

[TSA]

This has opened up the eyes of the CA sheep who have voted him and others like him in to office. Democrats have been caught too many times this year in CA. Shit, San Diego just elected a Republican mayor, never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.
:lol Filner (D)
I'll have my CCW soon :lol CA gun control (D)

[Winehole23]

So 'no political ramifications' was a little hyperbolic. I should have said "very few political ramifications" and couched that as an opinion, but that's pretty much a given. Thanks again for the article.

I think I am going to continue to point out your hyper-emotional responses when I encounter them. I feel by doing so, I have driven you to search out rational, reputable news sources which can only benefit the forum as a whole. Keep up the good work. :toastTroll vs,. troll, tbh. At least TSA is honest about it.

[TSA]

Who's Packing What: The Weapons in the Leland Yee Scandal

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/weapons/whos-packing-what-the-weapons-in-the-leland-yee-scandal?src=soc_twtr#slide-1