Hibbert: "“There are some selfish dudes in here”

[Chris]

The Pacers aren’t destroying their opponents on the way to the playoffs and the No. 1 seed in the Eastern Conference the way the current No. 1 seed in the Western Conference — the Spurs — has been doing recently. Indiana is limping towards the finish and only lead the Heat by a single game with a little over two weeks to go. In fact, center Roy Hibbert said, “there are some selfish dudes in here,” after the Pacers got beat in Washington last Friday night.

The Pacers are ranked in the bottom third of the NBA for points per possession. They’re still the staunchest defense around — holding opponents to just 95.5 points per 100 possessions, the top mark in the league — but they’ve squandered that defensive acumen with some me-first basketball on the other end of the court.

The Pacers have the third worst assist ratio in the league, as of this writing, and they’re turning the ball over a lot more than coach Frank Vogel would is comfortable with. They’re ranked in the bottom five for assist-to-turnover ratio, and they have some glaring lapses in judgement on the offensive end agianst inferior compeition.

Perhaps that’s why the Pacers have lost their last two — in Washington on Friday and in Cleveland on Sunday — while continuing to make their current position as the top seed in the East a harder proposition.

Following Friday’s 91-78 loss in Washington, Hibbert said, by way of NBA.com’s David Aldridge, “there are some selfish dudes in [the Pacers' locker-room].

“Some selfish dudes. I’m tired of talking about it. We’ve been talking about it for a month,” Hibbert elaborated.

While Hibbert, and teammate David West, didn’t explicitly call out Paul George for a me-first attitude, Aldridge alludes to him as the primary culprit in his Monday morning column:

It’s been a problem for Indiana since February, and while no one will specify a name, it’s obvious that the person in question is All-Star Paul George. While Lance Stephenson occasionally pounds the ball, nobody handles or hoists the rock as much as George does. It is not a problem every night, though, and that is part of the problem.

It seems Indiana’s sharing the basketball against their primary challenger in the East, Miami, but once they’re playing other teams who lack the talent to be real challengers in the LEastern Conference’s year-lond two-way race, the offensive cohesion breaks down, and players are trying to get their own looks to the detriment of the team.

“We know we can’t beat Miami playing that way, so we don’t play that way,” said forward David West — who also didn’t single anyone out individually. “We know what the margin for error is. I think everybody, to a man in this locker room, just feels like we’ve got to figure out a way to play better, have a better approach to the way we play offensive basketball. It’s just not good for us.”

While George is sporting a career high PER, and his True Shooting percentage and Effective field goal percentage are higher than last year — even with an increased usage percentage, he needs to learn how to get his big men involved — particularly Hibbert, who absolutely toasts Miami whenever they play.

If the Pacers can’t overcome their offensive doldrums in the final eight games of the regular season, Miami might again secure the top spot in the East and home-court advantage if — or more likely, when — the Pacers and Heat meet for the third straight year in the postseason. Then again, if Indiana keeps going at their current rate — struggling against teams they were handling easily earlier in the year — Indiana might not even get a chance to avenge last year’s loss to Miami in Game 7.

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Looks like a cakewalk to the finals for Miami tbh

[DPG21920]

His teammates are so selfish. They take all his rebounds from him so he can only average 5.

[Thread]

Just a cursory scan but I didn't see Larry Bird's name in there anywhere. & I won't.

tee, hee.

[RsxPiimp]

It was a dig at Lance and George.

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol going all the way downhill since signing Bynum.

[Chris]

Lance Stephenson & George Hill Have To Be Separated During Spurs Walloping

After Roy Hibbert‘s comments about some selfish dudes, following Indiana’s loss in Washington this past Friday, the roiling animosity in the Pacers’ locker-room was on more visceral display during San Antonio’s 103-77 win in Indiana yesterday. Pacers teammates Lance Stephenson and George Hill had to be physically separated after a verbal altercation during a second half timeout yesterday. Ruh roh.

Team dysfunction, thy name is Indiana Pacers. Via ESPN’s Brian Windhorst:

The Pacers are experiencing a leadership void at the moment and the only thing they’re racking up faster than turnovers and bad shots is finger pointing. During a timeout in the second half, George Hill got into a verbal confrontation with Lance Stephenson on the bench and they had to be separated by teammates.

That was just one negative note from Windhorst. After the game, Hibbert was just as negative as the end of last week.

“We’ve been in a downward spiral,” Hibbert said. “And we’ve been splintering a little bit.”

There’s more:

Paul George has battled some negative attention and has turned away some teammates’ offers for support during it. Hibbert has gone on the record calling his teammates selfish. Team president Larry Bird has gone on the record essentially calling his coach, Frank Vogel, soft and his players not committed enough.

Barely a game goes by when one Pacer or another doesn’t seem to be angry at Stephenson for something. Often he earns it, be it ridiculous technical fouls or bizarre decisions, but Stephenson is rarely guilty of not playing with commitment, as Bird has questioned his teammates on.

The confusion and helplessness is evident when Pacers.com writer Scott Agness tweets post-game quotes from David West and Hibbert, who don’t know what’s fracturing the locker-room, or what’s causing the Pacers mess that’s led to a 13-13 record over their last 26 games, while losing the No. 1 seed in the East to the Heat (by way of BDL):

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The confusion is evident in those quotes: the Pacers are not a happy team anymore. Even though the Spurs are riding high right now on an 18-game winning streak (the best in franchise history), the Pacers shouldn’t be losing by 25 at home to anybody — not with the talent they’ve assembled. They were 33-4 at home entering the game, but their inability to bottle up whatever malignancy is robbing them of their ability to play together is affecting them on the court. If things continue along this track, the Pacers might not be such a lock for the Conference Finals after all.
http://dimemag.com/2014/04/lance-stephenson-george-hill-separated-spurs-walloping/

[Captivus]

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/time-bomb-tnt-explosive-digital-countdown-timer-clock-white-background-35945362.jpg

[Michael Jordan.]

What an epic meltdown.

[whitemamba]

Paul George trying to manipulate his way out of indy tbh..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Bynum curse is real

[Thread]

Lance Stephenson & George Hill Have To Be Separated During Spurs Walloping

After Roy Hibbert‘s comments about some selfish dudes, following Indiana’s loss in Washington this past Friday, the roiling animosity in the Pacers’ locker-room was on more visceral display during San Antonio’s 103-77 win in Indiana yesterday. Pacers teammates Lance Stephenson and George Hill had to be physically separated after a verbal altercation during a second half timeout yesterday. Ruh roh.

Team dysfunction, thy name is Indiana Pacers. Via ESPN’s Brian Windhorst:

The Pacers are experiencing a leadership void at the moment and the only thing they’re racking up faster than turnovers and bad shots is finger pointing. During a timeout in the second half, George Hill got into a verbal confrontation with Lance Stephenson on the bench and they had to be separated by teammates.

That was just one negative note from Windhorst. After the game, Hibbert was just as negative as the end of last week.

“We’ve been in a downward spiral,” Hibbert said. “And we’ve been splintering a little bit.”

There’s more:

Paul George has battled some negative attention and has turned away some teammates’ offers for support during it. Hibbert has gone on the record calling his teammates selfish. Team president Larry Bird has gone on the record essentially calling his coach, Frank Vogel, soft and his players not committed enough.

Barely a game goes by when one Pacer or another doesn’t seem to be angry at Stephenson for something. Often he earns it, be it ridiculous technical fouls or bizarre decisions, but Stephenson is rarely guilty of not playing with commitment, as Bird has questioned his teammates on.

The confusion and helplessness is evident when Pacers.com writer Scott Agness tweets post-game quotes from David West and Hibbert, who don’t know what’s fracturing the locker-room, or what’s causing the Pacers mess that’s led to a 13-13 record over their last 26 games, while losing the No. 1 seed in the East to the Heat (by way of BDL):

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450814355396124672
450821366988562432
450822400897077249
450826621360951296
450827407616786434

The confusion is evident in those quotes: the Pacers are not a happy team anymore. Even though the Spurs are riding high right now on an 18-game winning streak (the best in franchise history), the Pacers shouldn’t be losing by 25 at home to anybody — not with the talent they’ve assembled. They were 33-4 at home entering the game, but their inability to bottle up whatever malignancy is robbing them of their ability to play together is affecting them on the court. If things continue along this track, the Pacers might not be such a lock for the Conference Finals after all.
http://dimemag.com/2014/04/lance-stephenson-george-hill-separated-spurs-walloping/

A Bird sighting.

[ElNono]

Evan Turner curse, IMO

[D-Wade]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_2.gif

[superjames1992]

Hibbert dropping troof bombs, tbh.

[D-Wade]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjYK-3NIEAEDB4g.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[scanry]

Them Beatles must be laughing their asses off. They ain't even trying and yet the Pacers are handing the 1 seed on a platter.

[scanry]

Just a cursory scan but I didn't see Larry Bird's name in there anywhere. & I won't.

tee, hee.

Why are you so obsessed about Bird tbh? He's actually a pretty decent team president.

[scanry]

His teammates are so selfish. They take all his rebounds from him so he can only average 5.

Never seen a so called DPOY not average less than 10 boards/gm. Heck a 38 yr old Duncan is averaging 10 rbs/gm and he's not playing > 28 min/gm tbh.

[jag]

Who would have thought a team with Lance Stephenson and David West as the primary leaders would be so volatile.

[Thread]

Why are you so obsessed about Bird tbh? He's actually a pretty decent team president.

I want his nose rubbed in his own makings. See him put to running. But, that ain't gonna happen. He'll skate. He always skates.

[scanry]

I want his nose rubbed in his own makings. See him put to running. But, that ain't gonna happen. He'll skate. He always skates.

The great white hope can't do no wrong tbh. Dude's living the great American dream tbh.

[DPG21920]

Shut up

[Prime Time]

Pacers really aren't that good, even on paper. You have

-Paul George, a wannabe superstar who doesn't have his own style so he tries to do anything and everything (while failing.)

-Roy Hibbert, a big who averages 11ppg and 6rpg throughout his entire career. But he had a couple of nice games against Miami so it's alright.

-George Hill, I love Hill but the dude can't dribble for shit. He's a good defender, but he's the kind of defender that still allows superstars to get whatever the hell they want. Josh Smith territory.

-Lance Stephenson, nice court vision but he really cares more about himself over the team. At least that's what his gimmicks imply

-David West, would be an amazing player in the Spurs' system.. but he's really just a washed up jump-shooter playing way too many minutes.

Add in personality issues and I have no idea how this team ever played well. Must have been drinking the same punch as Portland.

[Ace]

Any team that rely on Lance Stephenson to be successful failed from the start.

[DPG21920]

Pacers really aren't that good, even on paper. You have

-Paul George, a wannabe superstar who doesn't have his own style so he tries to do anything and everything (while failing.)

-Roy Hibbert, a big who averages 11ppg and 6rpg throughout his entire career. But he had a couple of nice games against Miami so it's alright.

-George Hill, I love Hill but the dude can't dribble for shit. He's a good defender, but he's the kind of defender that still allows superstars to get whatever the hell they want. Josh Smith territory.

-Lance Stephenson, nice court vision but he really cares more about himself over the team. At least that's what his gimmicks imply

-David West, would be an amazing player in the Spurs' system.. but he's really just a washed up jump-shooter playing way too many minutes.

Add in personality issues and I have no idea how this team ever played well. Must have been drinking the same punch as Portland.

Despite their struggles and flaws, INDY is a very good team. Don't kid yourself.

[Fpoonsie]

Shut up

[scanry]

Despite their struggles and flaws, INDY is a very good team. Don't kid yourself.

I think the Lakers started the trend by putting on an offensive clinic in 2008. They took it another notch in 09 and I think Phil made the half court reliant teams obsolete by . Dallas followed his blue print and went zone on the NBA, took out three great teams/superstars in the process.

I don't think the Pacers have enough offense to win a championship tbh.

[DPG21920]

I would probably agree, but that doesn't make them a bad team. Every team has flaws. Even the best ones. Outside of the Spurs right now there are no more "dominant" teams where you just know unless something fluky happens they are going to win. Lot's of very good teams, could have some great ones if the Spurs can keep it up, but no one scary/dominant.

[Thread]

Any team that rely on Lance Stephenson to be successful failed from the start.

That's about it.

[Koolaid_Man]

His teammates are so selfish. They take all his rebounds from him so he can only average 5.

I'm tired of midgets thinking they know the gotdam game...shut the fuck up mane

[Prime Time]

Despite their struggles and flaws, INDY is a very good team. Don't kid yourself.
Out of everyone I listed, Paul George and David West are the only good-great players.

But Hibbert, Hill, Stephenson, all those guys were playing over their heads to start the season. It was probably due to their ECF high not wearing off yet.

Just look at their play ANYWHERE else besides the start of the 2013-14 season/end of the 2013 playoffs, and right now they're being exploited by the same faults that they've had every year prior. Hill isn't a good dribbler/finisher, Stephenson is too cocky, and Hibbert has never been a great rebounder. Add in a washed up bench of Scola/Butler and you basically have the Pacers. Paul George and David West playing well are the only way this team can get clicking, and even then I doubt it's enough to seriously contend for a title.

I'm not kidding myself of anything, I never feared the Pacers. Take George/West out and the entire team starts to struggle, add Hibbert into the equation if you're Miami. Every year there's that one team who plays incredible through-out the first couple of months, but usually they flame out by January. Pacers have been flying longer, and now they're falling harder.

But sure, Indiana is a good team. Just not great. But I doubt they could beat OKC/San Antonio/Los Angeles, and that's only if they make it past Miami, and that's only if they make it to the ECF.

[Koolaid_Man]

I want his nose rubbed in his own makings. See him put to running. But, that ain't gonna happen. He'll skate. He always skates.

yep..they didn't let Zeke skate but they're coddeling Bird....and I know why....they paid him off with an MVP to Kobe to keep Bird from giving all his back....he threatened it if Kobe didn't win one and they've been tip toeing in the tulips every since....

[ElNono]

Who would have thought a team with Lance Stephenson and David West as the primary leaders would be so volatile.

read my mind, tbh

[hater]

Hibbert himself looks like a 42 year old Tim Duncan out there.

he really fell off a cliff imo

[sook]

I know everybody knows that I call out PG, but I got some backlash earlier this year and last year for calling Lance Stevenson a stupid chucker who wasn't "snubbed' from the AS team. The guy is a stupid bonehead and has that evil look if we're going to judge by appearances.

[hater]

I know everybody knows that I call out PG, but I got some backlash earlier this year and last year for calling him a stupid chucker who wasn't "snubbed' from the AS team. The guy is a stupid bonehead and has that evil look if we're going to judge by appearances.

if we're going to judge by appearances the taliban in your sig would be in Guantanamo tbh

[spurraider21]

Hibbert himself looks like a 42 year old Tim Duncan out there.

he really fell off a cliff imo
he was never on top of the cliff lol. he's always been a scrub that just smells blood against miami

[sook]

if we're going to judge by appearances the taliban in your sig would be in Guantanamo tbh

oops I forgot to add Lance Stevenson, I wasn't talking about PG, I was talking about Lance when I meant "snubbed from the AS team/stupid chucker/ evil look"

I fixed the quote.

Tell me now. Does he not look evil?

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/g4Bi4n.MyH_reB6DnRrNQQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/lance-stephenson-basketball-headshot-photo.jpg

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[benefactor]

Any team that rely on Lance Stephenson to be successful failed from the start.
I call it Kenyon Martin Syndrome. Teams that have/had Kenyon Martin on their team and expect him to play a major role don't win championships.

[KaiRMD1]

Perhaps the loss of Danny Granger has been the problem. The ol' sport was the leader of the team basically and PG does not a leader make.

[The Gemini Method]

Did Kirby join the Pacers?

[Leetonidas]

I'm tired of midgets thinking they know the gotdam game...shut the fuck up mane

You don't know shit about basketball, lol at you calling other people out :lmao

[Dex]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qoSjsjj9Clk/Ua4LOTFCe_I/AAAAAAAAAeg/VRxvQPN3DRw/s1600/Hindenburg+disaster.jpg

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

Why are you so obsessed about Bird tbh? He's actually a pretty decent team president.

:lmao Spurfan bball IQ

[toki9]

Pacers look like they have a lot of problems, but i think one is that it looks like there're some issues between Lance Stephenson (Isn't he a Larry Bird favorite?) and the rest of the team...watched the game last night and saw Stephenson call for screen from Mahinmi, try to go before he could set the screen, wave off the screen, try again, and then just trying to drive...granted, Mahinmi could set better screens, but Stephenson's reaction made it unlikely that Mahinmi would want to set screens for him ever again (yeah, that's an exaggeration)...I think when Stephenson didn't get selected for the All-Star game, he just ended up with a huge chip on his shoulder that's affecting everyone on that team...

[jeebus]

Shut up

[Kawhi]

http://blog.jedroot.com/.a/6a00d8341cbefd53ef01a51172c6c8970c-800wi

[Indazone]

I think the Pacers get it together before the playoffs. Still to be a force to be reckoned with.

[DMC]

"While George is sporting a career high PER, and his True Shooting percentage and Effective field goal percentage are higher than last year — even with an increased usage percentage, he needs to learn how to get his big men involved — "

Sounds like a chucker in Oakland. Node-a-mean?

[HI-FI]

http://blog.jedroot.com/.a/6a00d8341cbefd53ef01a51172c6c8970c-800wi
:lmao
"A B C, B B D...The East Coast Family"

[-21-]

Perhaps the loss of Danny Granger has been the problem. The ol' sport was the leader of the team basically and PG does not a leader make.
Losing Granger is definitely a factor in this meltdown.

[Gummi Clutch]

"While George is sporting a career high PER, and his True Shooting percentage and Effective field goal percentage are higher than last year — even with an increased usage percentage, he needs to learn how to get his big men involved — "

Sounds like a chucker in Oakland. Node-a-mean?
This is such bullshit :lmao

They need to list where stands....he's something like 47th in TS% and is 27th in PER :lmao

[Gummi Clutch]

Perhaps the loss of Danny Granger has been the problem. The ol' sport was the leader of the team basically and PG does not a leader make.
The intangibles ol' sport. Its something that all these nuu statfuckgeeks will never be able to comprehend when they sit there with their pencil and calculator wondering why they were never able to play the game in the first place :lol

[UZER]

Hibbert - "Man there are some selfish homo dudes in here...no homo"

[LkrFan]

Bynum curse is real
Since 2009:

Bynum: 2
Tammy: :lol

[LkrFan]

:lmao
"A B C, B B D...The East Coast Family"
:lol

[Calispursfan11]

oops I forgot to add Lance Stevenson, I wasn't talking about PG, I was talking about Lance when I meant "snubbed from the AS team/stupid chucker/ evil look"

I fixed the quote.

Tell me now. Does he not look evil?

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/g4Bi4n.MyH_reB6DnRrNQQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/lance-stephenson-basketball-headshot-photo.jpg

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/7657038d7cfc97fd6d28cd78b551a6a3b83e1de8/c=0-0-1337-1005&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Indianapolis/Indianapolis/2014/01/15//1389801945000-LANCEGAMEACTION.jpg

Very evil looking.

[Thread]

This is kinda like Pop after 6, he didn't have answer for it. Bird doesn't either. Must be a white, bad complexion thing.

[Biernutz]

Winning covers up all the warts and moles on a team............

[Thread]

.........how bout craters & coffee cake after 6?

[chicken eye]

That's about it.

Homo

[chicken eye]

yep..they didn't let Zeke skate but they're coddeling Bird....and I know why....they paid him off with an MVP to Kobe to keep Bird from giving all his back....he threatened it if Kobe didn't win one and they've been tip toeing in the tulips every since....

Fag

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Lance Stephenson
:lol costing the game for Indiana
:lol All star quality

[resistanze]

Lance is a perfect example of a scrub believing his own hype.

[Clipper Nation]

Fuck Lance Stephenson, tbh....

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol Hibbert
:lol 2 rebounds in 30 minutes

[Killakobe81]

:lol Hibbert
:lol 2 rebounds in 30 minutes

yep he talking shit but he is part of the issue ...

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Thinking Indy has any chance over Miami

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao :lmao Hibbert

:cry but these dudes awe selfish :cry

[Venti Quattro]

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a485/ventiquattro24/lmao-tika_zpsc0d789c4.gif

[baseline bum]

^ Yeah, this is impossible to predict. Indiana plays better when their backs are against the wall. HCA doesn't really help them since they actually have a better road record in the playoffs (5-1) Realistically, it's Miami's series to lose but "IF" Big Roy, Lance and PG shows shades of consistency, I have the Pacers advancing in the Finals.

[Venti Quattro]

^ Yeah, this is impossible to predict. Indiana plays better when their backs are against the wall. HCA doesn't really help them since they actually have a better road record in the playoffs (5-1) Realistically, it's Miami's series to lose but "IF" Big Roy, Lance and PG shows shades of consistency, I have the Pacers advancing in the Finals.

They won't beat Miami three straight games.

[baseline bum]

They won't beat Miami three straight games.

man, that post game speech from coach vogel gave me goose bumps, they are ready to rock and roll, you can sense unity again in that locker room. i hope miami wins since i want to see lebron and durant again but can't deny indiana is taking this series

[mavsfan1000]

And Hibbert is one of them. Nothing more selfish than a lack of effort.

[ImDaNuts]

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