animals fleeing yellowstone!

[Big Empty]

http://rt.com/usa/epoch-bison-yellowstone-volcano-909/ CRAZY!! two earthquakes!

Videos of bison seemingly fleeing Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming have sparked concerns among some bloggers that recent seismic activity could trigger the eruption of the park’s so-called supervolcano.
According to Epoch Times (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/593833-yellowstone-volcano-eruption-in-2014-some-believe-animals-are-fleeing-park-see-it-as-an-alert/3/), multiple videos of such incidents have been posted online recently, one of which shows a herd of buffalo allegedly leaving the park and “running for their lives.” Although people behind the discussion acknowledge there’s no way to predict when the park’s massive volcano could erupt, they believe the reaction of the Yellowstone’s animals could signal some kind of alert.
On March 30, Yellowstone was struck by the most powerful earthquake it has experienced since 1980 – a 4.8 magnitude quake that did no damage, but that some believe could be connected to the various animals’ movements.

“Whether I believe this, or whether I don’t believe the story or not, I don’t know. I can tell you this story I saw this morning about the buffaloes running the street … whether or not it’s because of any activity in Yellowstone or not, I don’t know,” said blogger Jay Lee, according to the Times.
“But I’ll tell you this, whatever the case may be, that their running away from Yellowstone is an alert of some sort.”
Another video uploaded to YouTube, this time by self-described “survivalist” and “search-and-rescue expert” Tom Lupshu, claims, “Biologists aren’t sure if there’s been a stunning decline in the herd or if other factors have skewed the tally.” Lupshu also said that helium releases in the area are 1,000 times above normal levels, and accused the US Geological Survey of not reporting small quakes occurring near the volcano.
“Herds of bison running for their lives on the public roadways and they were not being chased or rounded up, the bison were running down the mountain slopes onto roadways running right past a filming crew,” he added. “They detect something vast and deadly. The Yellowstone Supervolcano is the only thing there that would fit the bill.”

The supervolcano – which was found last year to be 2.5 times larger than previously thought – has not erupted in over 640,000 years, leaving some to speculate that a blast is overdue. If and when it erupts again, the volcano could potentially spew ash over large swathes of North America and cause trouble around the entire planet.
"It would be a global event," Jamie Farrell of the University of Utah told the Associated Press last year. "There would be a lot of destruction and a lot of impacts around the globe."
Although Farrell said scientists don’t know enough to map out the next eruption’s likely arrival, he did say they’d know if magma was moving towards the Earth’s surface.
In another video, Lupshu said that increased seismic activity at Yellowstone could bring about the volcano’s eruption, but the Geological Survey has noted such activity is currently par for the course, and that between 1,000 and 3,000 earthquakes hit the area every year. The agency also stated that helium releases have “no implications about volcanic hazards.”
According to Epoch Times, the University of Utah Seismograph Stations also downplayed fears.
“There is no evidence that a catastrophic eruption at Yellowstone National Park (YNP) is imminent,” the service said. “Current geologic activity at Yellowstone has remained relatively constant since earth scientists first started monitoring some 30 years ago. Though another caldera-forming eruption is theoretically possible, it is very unlikely to occur in the next thousand or even 10,000 years.”

[baseline bum]

That thing blows and most of us are probably dead within a year. But the Yellowstone bison do strange shit all the time. I remember a few years ago everyone was wondering what the hell they were doing going up the road from Lamar Valley to hang out in Cooke City, MT (great little town btw for anyone contemplating at Yellowstone trip).

[DPG21920]

That thing blows and most of us are probably dead within a year. But the Yellowstone bison do strange shit all the time. I remember a few years ago everyone was wondering what the hell they were doing going up the road from Lamar Valley to hang out in Cooke City, MT (great little town btw for anyone contemplating at Yellowstone trip).

You think will wipe out all of America?

[baseline bum]

You think will wipe out all of America?

Wouldn't it wipe out most agriculture world-wide when all the dust thrown into the air gives us a horrible year-round winter for a few years? I think I read the Toba eruption dropped the human population to only a few thousand.

[pgardn]

Going kayaking and camping there this summer.
Id love to be blowed up in a geological event.
Beats the hell out of a hospital bed.

[baseline bum]

Going kayaking and camping there this summer.
Id love to be blowed up in a geological event.
Beats the hell out of a hospital bed.

Check out the Beartooths when you're out there. Just spectacular hiking out there. Take bear spray though, because the grizzlies have been pretty nasty the last 4-5 years with the way those beetles have been devastating the whitebark pines whose nuts make up the majority of their diets.

[DPG21920]

I am not at all well educated on the matter, but no, I don't think a Yellowstone eruption would end the world. Even if there is a massive eruption, I don't believe that would be the case. If there is just a normal eruption, while it would be bad, I don't think it would impact beyond the local region.

[baseline bum]

I am not at all well educated on the matter, but no, I don't think a Yellowstone eruption would end the world. Even if there is a massive eruption, I don't believe that would be the case. If there is just a normal eruption, while it would be bad, I don't think it would impact beyond the local region.

Never said it would end the world, but I bet it would kill billions. Not sure there is such a thing as a normal eruption from a volcano that huge.

[DPG21920]

I don't believe that to be true either (both the billions part and that there aren't anything other than super eruptions from volcano's of that type).

I most definitely do not believe billions would be lost. Nothing I have read suggest anything remotely close to that number, but like I said, I have not done a ton of research on the subject..

[baseline bum]

Going kayaking and camping there this summer.
Id love to be blowed up in a geological event.
Beats the hell out of a hospital bed.

I think I'd personally rather die there than starve too. Even worse would be if I couldn't get down to Central Mexico or to the East Coast within a day or two, since the volcanic glass from the ash would shred my lungs and cause me to drown in my blood.

[pgardn]

Check out the Beartooths when you're out there. Just spectacular hiking out there. Take bear spray though, because the grizzlies have been pretty nasty the last 4-5 years with the way those beetles have been devastating the whitebark pines whose nuts make up the majority of their diets.

Frankly I am worried about those damn mosquitoes. Hopefully the lake levels are down so we can find some good wind blown points to camp. Last summer we did the Bay of Fundy. Only two days camping though. The tides were absolutely awesome. I like large natural events so... Gotta find some new vents. We saw some in the mornings before at YS but could not find them.

I like the bear lecture.

[pgardn]

I think I'd personally rather die there than starve too. Even worse would be if I couldn't get down to Central Mexico or to the East Coast within a day or two, since the volcanic glass from the ash would shred my lungs and cause me to drown in my blood.

Maybe some massive CO2 leak could kill me in my sleep and then I get blowed up.

[DPG21920]

By the way, I was genuinely asking what you thought. I know it would be catastrophic if the super eruption occurred, I just had never really seen a consensus that a billion would die :wow.

[spurraider21]

By the way, I was genuinely asking what you thought. I know it would be catastrophic if the super eruption occurred, I just had never really seen a consensus that a billion would die :wow.
keep in mind that the amount of fatalities from the explosion itself will pale in comparison to the effects/consequences of such a cataclysmic event

[baseline bum]

By the way, I was genuinely asking what you thought. I know it would be catastrophic if the super eruption occurred, I just had never really seen a consensus that a billion would die :wow.

I just wonder where the food would come from to support 8 billion people, or even 1 billion people, if we have four or five really nasty cold years in a row due to all the dust a supervolcano is thought to kick into the air. Maybe I'm too pessimistic though. I'd like to see what MannyIsGod thinks the consequences could be, since he understands climate better than any of us here most likely.

[baseline bum]

http://www.futuregamez.net/movies/2012/20122.jpg

Haha. What movie was that? LOL at that plane not being destroyed.

[pgardn]

By the way, I was genuinely asking what you thought. I know it would be catastrophic if the super eruption occurred, I just had never really seen a consensus that a billion would die :wow.

Based on the number of photosynthetic marine Genre that went extinct during some of these large volcanic events it's likely Homo sapiens and a lot of other specialists species would go extinct as I read it. And indeed it would not be due to the initial event. Throwing all that ash and gas in the atmosphere totally alters photosynthesis therefore so much more.
Food webs totally altered...

[DPG21920]

Based on the number of photosynthetic marine Genre that went extinct during some of these large volcanic events it's likely Homo sapiens and a lot of other specialists species would go extinct as I read it. And indeed it would not be due to the initial event. Throwing all that ash and gas in the atmosphere totally alters photosynthesis therefore so much more.
Food webs totally altered...

Most definitely. The initial blast is not the concern. Only those in close proximity would be immediately impacted by the blast and thick layers of ash. As it spreads and causes and temperature dip in addition to destroying ability to grow much food there is no doubt it would be a disaster. Especially with the lack of preparation for an event of that nature.

However, it seems like a billion is a lot. Is it possible? I can definitely see that I guess, but from the limited things I have read, that does not seem to be at all a widely held belief.

[DPG21920]

Living arrangements (outside of the initial blast area) aren't the problem. Normal homes and areas far enough away would suffice I think. The issue is food/climate change for up to 10 years..

[baseline bum]

Most definitely. The initial blast is not the concern. Only those in close proximity would be immediately impacted by the blast and thick layers of ash. As it spreads and causes and temperature dip in addition to destroying ability to grow much food there is no doubt it would be a disaster. Especially with the lack of preparation for an event of that nature.

However, it seems like a billion is a lot. Is it possible? I can definitely see that I guess, but from the limited things I have read, that does not seem to be at all a widely held belief.

A couple of meters of ash fell here in Nebraska from an eruption. Breathing that stuff isn't good at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashfall_Fossil_Beds

[RD2191]

7.2 in Chile, Prophecy:wakeup

[RD2191]

7.8

[RD2191]

Oh Shit.

Oh what a mighty God we Serve!

Oh what a mighty God WE Serve!

Everybody!

Angels bow before him Heavan and Earth adore him,

Oh whhat a mighty god weeeee serve,
That's right, scrub. Kneel before your Creator.

[RD2191]

Get your chipping hammer ready bitch, you'll be chipping me out a new house.

Rofl, you scared bro?

[pgardn]

Most definitely. The initial blast is not the concern. Only those in close proximity would be immediately impacted by the blast and thick layers of ash. As it spreads and causes and temperature dip in addition to destroying ability to grow much food there is no doubt it would be a disaster. Especially with the lack of preparation for an event of that nature.

However, it seems like a billion is a lot. Is it possible? I can definitely see that I guess, but from the limited things I have read, that does not seem to be at all a widely held belief.

Farming collapses for 50 or more years it's over. That's why I used the photosynthetic marine species. This is if it's as large as past so called super volcanoes. I have no idea what the scale of climate alteration would be with the Yellowstone scenario. A lot more than humans go extinct. We are very fragile in comparison to most species of life.

[DPG21920]

50 years? I thought, even under pretty awful circumstances that most farming could recover within 10 years..

[pgardn]

50 years? I thought, even under pretty awful circumstances that most farming could recover within 10 years..

Not if the photosynthetic marine Genre extinctions are accurate. With these occurrences a whole lot of terrestrial species went extinct. Big mammals are in huge trouble. But again I have no idea what the forecast of what this particular package would throw up. Maybe you know more about the forecast of this event. Maybe it's not in an area that throws up as much small crap that stays aloft for many years.

[SnakeBoy]

Earthquake at Yellowstone Caldera is No Need for Concern
http://www.wired.com/2014/03/earthquake-at-yellowstone-caldera-is-no-need-for-concern/

[RD2191]

:lol Yes

:lol

[spurraider21]

Haha. What movie was that? LOL at that plane not being destroyed.


2012? lol and the Limo too.

rather lengthy, but it seriously delivers the goods


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AohOD6F_rwA

[pgardn]

rather lengthy, but it seriously delivers the goods


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AohOD6F_rwA

I watched the whole thing.
If the actors/actresses participating in this movie actually watched what you just posted would they not be inclined to shoot themselves? That must have been seriously awful to have spent money on.

I especially liked the control tower getting upset the plane was leaving while the airport is falling apart.

[spurraider21]

I watched the whole thing.
If the actors/actresses participating in this movie actually watched what you just posted would they not be inclined to shoot themselves? That must have been seriously awful to have spent money on.

I especially liked the control tower getting upset the plane was leaving while the airport is falling apart.
"the president isn't coming"

commentary: "and he only told me... his geologist"

[pgardn]

"the president isn't coming"

commentary: "and he only told me... his geologist"

Some great lines in that video.

[spurraider21]

Some great lines in that video.
that channel has a ton of great ones, they're usually less than 10 minutes long. some very special movies like 2012 or Batman and Robin (the George
Cl:lol:lolney/Terminator one) have especially long ones

[Robz4000]

I agree with DPG tbh. The eruption would definitely alter life on Earth and would be the end of an era (prolly from AD to something else) but I can't see it killing off the human race. Also, from what I've learned in the couple Geology classes I've taken it would only fuck up the climate for 15 years max, and only significantly in the Northern hemisphere.

We could all move in with Manu down South imo.

[MannyIsGod]

I just wonder where the food would come from to support 8 billion people, or even 1 billion people, if we have four or five really nasty cold years in a row due to all the dust a supervolcano is thought to kick into the air. Maybe I'm too pessimistic though. I'd like to see what MannyIsGod (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=76) thinks the consequences could be, since he understands climate better than any of us here most likely.

Well, you might not have a growing season around the world for 5+ years if Yellowstone erupted the way it did in the past so I don't think you'd be incorrect in thinking that more than 1 billion would likely die. We'd likely lose millions here in the US directly. Pinitabo in the early 90s was a VEI 6. The year without a summer in 1815 was caused by a VEI-7 (VEI is a log scale so ~10x worse). Yellowstone's past eruptions have been VEI-8 which would be 100x worse than Pinatubo which noticeably lowered global temps for a couple of years. Its really tough to say that Billions wouldn't die, though.

I"m sure Yellowstone could erupt on a much smaller scale though. There's tons of basalt flows in that park that weren't created by the giant eruptions.

But in any event, no, animals are not fleeing Yellowstone.

[MannyIsGod]

I agree with DPG tbh. The eruption would definitely alter life on Earth and would be the end of an era (prolly from AD to something else) but I can't see it killing off the human race. Also, from what I've learned in the couple Geology classes I've taken it would only fuck up the climate for 15 years max, and only significantly in the Northern hemisphere.

We could all move in with Manu down South imo.

15 years of no growing season on this planet is a huge fucking deal man. Would definitely be a global phenomenon and not simply in the NH.

[Robz4000]

15 years of no growing season on this planet is a huge fucking deal man. Would definitely be a global phenomenon and not simply in the NH.

It would be but would it cause the extinction of the human race?

[Big Empty]

It would be but would it cause the extinction of the human race?

if plants and trees cant grow then wouldnt oxygen also be a problem?

[MannyIsGod]

It would be but would it cause the extinction of the human race?

I really doubt it. We're too advanced now.

[SnakeBoy]

It would be but would it cause the extinction of the human race?

The lucky ones are set to survive just about anything...

http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/10-impressive-doomsday-bunkers/

Plus major seed banks around the world. Humans are here to stay as long as life can exist on this planet.

[z0sa]

It would not be that big of a deal nowadays. In 50-100 years, it will be essentially trivial, extreme discomfort/deaths from the direct damage of the event itself withstanding.

Scientists would be able to detect for at least weeks, probably months, the massive build up of magma before a supervolcano level eruption. And there's no guarantee the volcano would even erupt anywhere near that level of magnitude.

[baseline bum]

I don't know how this became about humans going extinct. I just said most of us would die with 5 years of being unable to really grow shit at a large scale if we're looking at perpetual winter on most of the planet in that period.

[SnakeBoy]

I don't know how this became about humans going extinct.

Robz asked a question.

[Robz4000]

Ya I was just reiterating what I heard in a class. Have no real idea how the Geological and meteorological impacts of Yellowstone erupting would impact life on the planet tbh.

[CosmicCowboy]

I really doubt it. We're too advanced now.

That in itself is the problem. Everything is interdependent. Shut the supply/delivery grid down and your big cities starve. Something as simple as not being able to get air filters for vehicles could kill the whole system. Extinction? No. But the survivors will be what we now consider to be "backwards" people and civilizations that are used to getting by with nothing.

[DarrinS]

The bison were running TOWARDS Yellowstone in that video. lol

[Leetonidas]

Y'all mofos thinking that everything will be cool if Yellowstone erupts...hell no. Not a planet wide extinction but all of us here in the US can probably expect to die within a couple years

[lefty]

lol fear mongering phaggots

[mrsmaalox]

But in any event, no, animals are not fleeing Yellowstone.


The bison were running TOWARDS Yellowstone in that video. lol

:lol

Don't the bison and other animals "flee" in and out of Yellowstone several times each year with the changing seasons? Migration.

[DarrinS]

:lol

Don't the bison and other animals "flee" in and out of Yellowstone several times each year with the changing seasons? Migration.


Yep

http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-dismiss-claims-yellowstone-volcano-erupt-235751568.html

[baseline bum]

rather lengthy, but it seriously delivers the goods


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AohOD6F_rwA

Man am I glad I never watched that abortion. I didn't know the whole movie was like that. I think I saw that volcano scene on Fx or something one day, and said fuck that, this shit's retarded and didn't stick around for any more of that garbage. :lol

[baseline bum]

The bison were running TOWARDS Yellowstone in that video. lol

LOL, good catch; it does look that way. That seems to be Lamar Valley, and I'd bet my life that those are south facing slopes. At Yellowstone, above 8000 feet, in late March of one of the colder winters in recent memory all the north facing slopes would still be completely decked out in snow for another couple of months at least. LOL stupid bison running towards the supervolcano.

[mrsmaalox]

LOL, good catch; it does look that way. That seems to be Lamar Valley, and I'd bet my life that those are south facing slopes. At Yellowstone, above 8000 feet, in late March of one of the colder winters in recent memory all the north facing slopes would still be completely decked out in snow for another couple of months at least. LOL stupid bison running towards the supervolcano.

:lol