Will the Spurs resign Patty Mills/Boris Diaw next year?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The dudes are going to have some offers for a lot of money next year... specifically Patty.. can the Spurs match those offers?

[r0drig0lac]

diaw 18/3, mills 16/4

[SpursRock20]

I don't even want to think about resigning players until the playoffs are over. I'm pretty sure the Spurs organization doesn't either.

[BillMc]

RC and Pop don't usually lose players they want to keep. So if the FO wants them (as I imagine they would) they'll be back.

[poeticism707]

If the Spurs let gems like Patty and Boris get away, then Pop and Buford are retards.

[Richie]

diaw 18/3, mills 16/4

Too much IMO. Mills should get a Neal-esque contract, $3m/yr. Diaw has shown throughout his career that he can be unmotivated, will scare teams off.

Diaw $14m/3, Mills $9m/3 would be good.

[spurraider21]

diaw is coming off a 9/2 deal, fwiw

[RD2191]

14 mil a year for Diaw? Rofl.

[RD2191]

18? Roflrofl

[spursfaninla]

Neal and Patty are very nearly the same player, both scoring about 10ppg in about 20mpg, with about 1.5 apg and shooting about 40% from three...

except patty shoots 46% from the field overall, actually plays defense, and has a PER of 18.

Neal shoots 40%, plays no defense, and has a PER of 12...

Not saying we should throw the bank at patty, but he is probably more valuable. He is a good backup. Would not be a good starter because he does not create enough assists.

[benefactor]

Yes.

[benfti]

comprehendo English's?

[cd021]

diaw 18/3, mills 16/4

Nate Robinson signed for 2 years, 4 million. I'd peg Mills at 3 years, $10 million.

[RD2191]

comprehendo English's?

No, soy un troll.

[cd021]

PTR did speculate that the Spurs would let Mills walk because of Joseph. At some point they are going to have to give him the reigns if they believe in him.

[Boomersgold]

Diaw 16/3 (wouldn't be surprised if he got somewhere between 18/3 to 21/3), Mills 11/3

[RD2191]

I guess it depends on how they perform in the playoffs. If they scrub it up I'm sure their value will fall. If we go all the way then that's another story.

[AFBlue]

Diaw is more likely to stay because of his unique skill set, and I think he's incentivized to stay because of Tony. The Spurs will give him a fair market deal (somewhere around MLE), and I'm pretty sure he takes it. I also wouldn't be surprised if the length of that deal mirrored a Parker extension in terms of years.

Patty is a different story. I think he loves the team atmosphere and chemistry, but he may feel like he's got lead guard potential. And with Parker here, that won't ever happen. I think several teams will entertain the notion that he's worth MLE dollars to be a key contributor for them. One place I could absolutely see him going is Philly to reunite with Brett Brown, playing alongside MCW or being first off the bench. They have the cap space and the larger role to offer. I also think the Spurs have flexibility with Joseph on the team. He obviously brings a different skill set, but he's an effective backup when he runs the show with confidence. I personally don't want to see Patty leave, but I think it's far more likely than a Diaw exodus.

[TheyCallMePro]

I'm worried about our ability to re-sign Mills. There's not a lot of good PG's in the league today, and there are a ton of teams (especially bad teams with no PG) who would just love to have Patty Mills as their starter.

The problem is that Patty has been just too damn good this year. When Parker's been out, he's dominated the PG match-up against the likes of Steph Curry, Chris Paul and Damian Llliard. Not only that, but his player efficiency is off the charts, and he's also #1 in total floor movement when he's on the court.

Also, Parker said he wants an extension this summer. And no doubt it'll be a big one since it'll probably be his last contract with the Spurs. Think 5 years/80 million. And when you give a contract like that to your starting PG...you can't just give pennies to your backup.

Ultimately, I think it'll take something like 3 years/15 million to re-sign Mills. Which is probably too much for the Spurs to handle, especially since they have cheaper options. Joseph, for example would cost about 6 million less overall. Think 3 years/9 million.

I think we might end up trading Parker. I really do. Were going to have to go young eventually, and Mills is just too much of a fan favorite and too young and too skilled to let go of. And if we could get something good in return for Parker this off-season, we should do it. Or else were going to lose Mills in free agency.

[RD2191]

Rofl^

[TheyCallMePro]

Rofl^

[ron235]

Patty's final value will be determined by what type of showing he has in the PO's. There's been a reason why GM's haven't been keen on him in the past.

If he shits the bed, his brilliant season thus far might be written off as a flash in the pan -but if he steps it up, he'll be in for a pay-rise.

[Mel_13]

Way too early to make a good guess. Have to know how the playoffs go and whether Duncan and Ginobili return.

[Mugen]

I think Boris is a good bet to come back. I want Patty to get paid, he's earned it and I'd be thrilled if it were the Spurs to do it tbh.

[Dex]

Extending Kawhi is priority 1.

Re-signing Boris is priority 2a.

Re-signing Patty is priority 2b, but I feel like someone is going to throw him money, and he deserves it. Wouldn't blame him for cashing in on a payday, but he does seem to really enjoy San Antonio, so hopefully the Spurs will meet him halfway enough to stay.

[timtonymanu]

Both stay, imo.

Diaw's a great fit and will just finish his career here.

I think it was benfti that said that Mills is loyal and would prefer to stay with the Spurs than follow a big contract. He seems to really love playing for the Spurs so I see him sticking around.

[SequSpur]

You guys know everything

[benfti]

Both stay, imo.

Diaw's a great fit and will just finish his career here.

I think it was benfti (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31245) that said that Mills is loyal and would prefer to stay with the Spurs than follow a big contract. He seems to really love playing for the Spurs so I see him sticking around.

Indeed, he is as loyal as a Labrador. It really gutted him when the Blazers first let him go, because he knocked back an offer from the pistons just before the lock out wanting to be available for the blazers. I get the steady feeling that he will want to be a Spur as long as they will have him, thats just the sort of guy he is, he is tribal, its in his blood.

[FireMicoHalili]

You guys know everything
False. Only robdiaz knows.

[spurraider21]

Jarret Jack got 25/4, and he was 29 at the time. I hope some other team doesn't throw shit like that at Mills

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Too much IMO. Mills should get a Neal-esque contract, $3m/yr. Diaw has shown throughout his career that he can be unmotivated, will scare teams off.

Diaw $14m/3, Mills $9m/3 would be good.

Mills is only slightly less valuable than Danny Green. He's worth around $5M/year. He's more valuable than Gary Neal.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Spurstalk is literally awful when it comes to predicting NBA salaries. Most of you guys think you have to put up 20 and 10 just to get a 2 year $10M contract.

Matt Bonner makes $4M/year for fuck's sake.

[BillMc]

Spurstalk is literally awful when it comes to predicting NBA salaries. Most of you guys think you have to put up 20 and 10 just to get a 2 year $10M contract.

Matt Bonner makes $4M/year for fuck's sake.

I fully admit I have no idea what they should be paid. But based on the past RC and Pop very seldom lose players they want to keep. I can't really think of anyone who was on our squad that they really wanted and left for more money. Jax in his first stint maybe, but not really. I'm sure there are other examples but they don't come to mind.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

So apparently the median salary in the NBA (average is heavily skewed by outliers) is $2.33 million/year. 3 years/$9 million is essentially saying you think Mills is just a ho-hum typical NBA player. I don't think that's the case.

His PER is excellent, his WS are excellent. Not only is he an efficient shooter, he's pretty consistent with it. I think I remember only one or two off shooting nights from Patty in recent memory.

[jkid12456]

#1 Patty Mills fan checking in.

Im going to think logically. Patty Mills is LOYAL TO THE BONE, I dont think he will move, unless he gets a shitload $$ at a dumass scrub team. If the spurs were smart, they would resign him for atleast 3.5m a year. He is an integral piece to our backup pg situation in the future, and I think he is the one to replace Tony Parker. Not only that I think Mills is seriously becoming a fan favourite and a team favourite. Look at him the way he cheers his team on. He does everything beyond what a normal nba teammate should do.

[jkid12456]

Boosting team morale offcourt is seriously underrated in the NBA.

[Boomersgold]

#1 Patty Mills fan checking in.

Im going to think logically. Patty Mills is LOYAL TO THE BONE, I dont think he will move, unless he gets a shitload $$ at a dumass scrub team. If the spurs were smart, they would resign him for atleast 3.5m a year. He is an integral piece to our backup pg situation in the future, and I think he is the one to replace Tony Parker. Not only that I think Mills is seriously becoming a fan favourite and a team favourite. Look at him the way he cheers his team on. He does everything beyond what a normal nba teammate should do.

Agreed 100%.

[SupremeGuy]

No, soy un troll.:lol

[will_spurs]

Mills is certainly going to get offers in the ballpark of $4m per year (there are a lot of good guards in the NBA right now and Mills isn't a true PG), but a team might throw more money at him as he has starter potential (and let's face it he's a lot better than Neal). When you see that George Hill makes $8m a year, is a starter and looking at his production, there's sadly a chance that some poorly-run franchise will make a crazy offer. I say the Spurs offer him up to $5m a year and he stays.

Diaw is a different matter entirely, he could easily command a salary in the range of $7-8m (remember he was being paid $9m a year for 5 years before). However I see him as the kind of guy who'd give the Spurs a discount because he likes the team and he's Parker's friend. And even though it's counter-intuitive, I could see him giving the Spurs even more of a discount if the Spurs win it all. I say he resigns around $6m, maybe a bit less if it's a long contract.

[heyheymymy]

anyone else think there is a loyalty connection to san antonio that mills may honor when considering contracts this summer? as long as the spurs give a decent offer, i don't think mills will bail for big money elsewhere like others maybe would.

[heyheymymy]

^hell, same connection for boris as well, maybe to a lesser degree imo tbh

[moisaenz]

Parker 5 years/80 million... for an over 30 year old guard???

[Dverde]

If Patty has a good playoffs, someone will overpay him. 76ers will have a bunch of money to spend. Diaw will be resigned.

[Raven]

as i've been saying all along, patty is going to get paid this offseason, he completely deserves it, just like neal deserved it, they both got paid next to nothing by the spurs and to go away is their best bet for plaing time and career in general.

[Mel_13]

as i've been saying all along, patty is going to get paid this offseason, he completely deserves it, just like neal deserved it, they both got paid next to nothing by the spurs and to go away is their best bet for plaing time and career in general.

Except that Neal could have gotten similar money to stay with the Spurs and his playing time this season, with an awful team and a mediocre team, has been almost identical to what he got in San Antonio.

Neal's case will provide a good example to Mills. He can only talk to the Spurs until July 1st. They're certain to make him an offer. He'll have the option to make the best possible deal before July 1st or to test his value on the open market. The lesson for Mills from the Neal case is that the Spurs will quickly move on to another option.

[Raven]

Except that Neal could have gotten similar money to stay with the Spurs and his playing time this season, with an awful team and a mediocre team, has been almost identical to what he got in San Antonio.

Neal's case will provide a good example to Mills. He can only talk to the Spurs until July 1st. They're certain to make him an offer. He'll have the option to make the best possible deal before July 1st or to test his value on the open market. The lesson for Mills from the Neal case is that the Spurs will quickly move on to another option.

he was injured the whole year tbh.

[Mel_13]

he was injured the whole year tbh.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nealga01.html

[Raven]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nealga01.html

your point being?

[Mel_13]

your point being?

Open the link and read.

[Raven]

Open the link and read.

are you trying to deny he was injured the whole year? You do know, you can play with injuries, right?

[superjames1992]

#1 Patty Mills fan checking in.

Im going to think logically. Patty Mills is LOYAL TO THE BONE, I dont think he will move, unless he gets a shitload $$ at a dumass scrub team. If the spurs were smart, they would resign him for atleast 3.5m a year. He is an integral piece to our backup pg situation in the future, and I think he is the one to replace Tony Parker. Not only that I think Mills is seriously becoming a fan favourite and a team favourite. Look at him the way he cheers his team on. He does everything beyond what a normal nba teammate should do.


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230546

"plz have faith in patty mills if he has off shooting"

:cry :cry :cry

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BTW, I'm not sure we'll be able to afford Patty next season, tbh. Hope I'm wrong... Boris will be back.

[Mel_13]

are you trying to deny he was injured the whole year? You do know, you can play with injuries, right?

????????????????

He was a bench player in San Antonio and played about 21 mpg all three seasons, including the last one where he was hampered with injuries. He was a bench player in Milwaukee and played about 21 mpg and now he's a bench player in Charlotte playing about 21 mpg.

As you pointed out the last time we had a discussion, bench players like Mills (and Neal) are limited. If there was a team that saw Neal as a starter, he would have gotten much more money than 6.5M over 2 years. Leaving San Antonio changed nothing for Neal and it's not likely to change anything for Mills. He'll have the same choice Neal had; risk going on the market and finding out if there is a team that will pay him like a starter. It only takes one team to make a market for one player, so it could happen. Or he could wind up like Neal, playing the same role on vastly inferior teams.

[superjames1992]

anyone else think there is a loyalty connection to san antonio that mills may honor when considering contracts this summer? as long as the spurs give a decent offer, i don't think mills will bail for big money elsewhere like others maybe would.
To some degree, but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ talks, tbh........

[Raven]

????????????????

He was a bench player in San Antonio and played about 21 mpg all three seasons, including the last one where he was hampered with injuries. He was a bench player in Milwaukee and played about 21 mpg and now he's a bench player in Charlotte playing about 21 mpg.

As you pointed out the last time we had a discussion, bench players like Mills (and Neal) are limited. If there was a team that saw Neal as a starter, he would have gotten much more money than 6.5M over 2 years. Leaving San Antonio changed nothing for Neal and it's not likely to change anything for Mills. He'll have the same choice Neal had; risk going on the market and finding out if there is a team that will pay him like a starter. It only takes one team to make a market for one player, so it could happen. Or he could wind up like Neal, playing the same role on vastly inferior teams.

i wasn't really talking about being a starter, just about playing time, the fact that neal got 21 minutes per game with the bobcats (playing great bball in the process btw) is a proof that he can have some playing time when he is healthy. I think patty has a slight edge in market on neal tbh, he is younger and faster and his advanced stats this year are off the charts, so i doubt he won't have a healthy market.

[Mel_13]

i wasn't really talking about being a starter, just about playing time, the fact that neal got 21 minutes per game with the bobcats (playing great bball in the process btw) is a proof that he can have some playing time when he is healthy. I think patty has a slight edge in market on neal tbh, he is younger and faster and his advanced stats this year are off the charts, so i doubt he won't have a healthy market.

Yes, the same playing time he got with San Antonio.

As to Mills, who know? As I said, it only takes one team to see him as an MLE-level player to make testing the market worthwhile. Testing the market does, however, bring significant risk. It didn't really work out for Neal, or Blair for that matter. If the Spurs offer Mills anything around 9M/3yrs, he would be wise to accept it. At least, IMO.

[TheGoldStandard]

Once Duncan retires at the end of the season the spurs will have some cash available to bring back mills and draw and prepare for kawhi next deal

[Chinook]

Diaw is a must-keep unless the team is blown up. Mills is no where near as important, and it really doesn't make sense for him to take up 2015 cap space, especially if Ginobili is gone and the team needs a legit backup PG.

I could totally see the Spurs giving Mills a long-term deal because of his popularity with fans and people within the organization. But it'd be a mistake, in my opinion, unless the Spurs decide to tank post Duncan and want to go full Lakers while they do it.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Once Duncan retires at the end of the season the spurs will have some cash available to bring back mills and draw and prepare for kawhi next deal

Duncan won't retire until he's at least 50.

[Mel_13]

Diaw is a must-keep unless the team is blown up. Mills is no where near as important, and it really doesn't make sense for him to take up 2015 cap space, especially if Ginobili is gone and the team needs a legit backup PG.

I could totally see the Spurs giving Mills a long-term deal because of his popularity with fans and people within the organization. But it'd be a mistake, in my opinion, unless the Spurs decide to tank post Duncan and want to go full Lakers while they do it.

Of course, that depends on the price. At up to 3M/yr, it makes sense to me.

[Raven]

Yes, the same playing time he got with San Antonio.

As to Mills, who know? As I said, it only takes one team to see him as an MLE-level player to make testing the market worthwhile. Testing the market does, however, bring significant risk. It didn't really work out for Neal, or Blair for that matter. If the Spurs offer Mills anything around 9M/3yrs, he would be wise to accept it. At least, IMO.

if anything, at least the lakers should give him more money :lol

[Mel_13]

if anything, at least the lakers should give him more money :lol

That would be worse than Neal going to Milwaukee. I hope things work out better for Patty.

[Chinook]

Of course, that depends on the price. At up to 3M/yr, it makes sense to me.

To me, that's too much. From my projections (which mean nothing, obviously), they'll have about $14 Million after re-signing Parker, Leonard, Green and Diaw (plus roster charges). If they intend to go after a max free agent, they're already going to have to get creative and hope for luck. Mills at $3 Million pretty much blows that out the window.

Of course, the team can try to piece together a lineup with non-max players like Alanta and Dallas have. But if they're going to reload, they should attempt to do it right

[Drom John]

Diaw and Mills are currently tied with Tristan Thompson and Deron Williams at 75th in WS.
The 75th-80th highest salaries this year are:
$8,308,500 Ryan Anderson
$8,050,000 Marcus Thornton
$8,000,000 George Hill, O.J. Mayo, Jeff Teague, Tyrus Thomas

[Mel_13]

To me, that's too much. From my projections (which mean nothing, obviously), they'll have about $14 Million after re-signing Parker, Leonard, Green and Diaw (plus roster charges). If they intend to go after a max free agent, they're already going to have to get creative and hope for luck. Mills at $3 Million pretty much blows that out the window.

Of course, the team can try to piece together a lineup with non-max players like Alanta and Dallas have. But if they're going to reload, they should attempt to do it right

Lots of variables there. We'll see. If Patty performs well in the playoffs, 3M/yr seems like a good investment to me. The contract would probably be quite movable if cap space becomes a priority.

[SpursFan86]

I'm not sure about Diaw getting $7-8 million/year. He's playing at that level now, sure, but he's not exactly young. Now, his game doesn't really rely on athleticism much, but how confident are we that he'll still be playing at this high of a level in 2-3 years?

I think $5-6 million a year for Diaw and $3-4 million a year for Mills sounds reasonable. I'd like to keep both of them, but if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd go with Diaw. As others have mentioned, postseason performance will be a factor.

Extending Kawhi for a long-term contract is #1 priority though. How much do y'all think he'll get?

[Mel_13]

Extending Kawhi for a long-term contract is #1 priority though. How much do y'all think he'll get?

Somewhere between 48/4 and the max for 4 years (about 60/4). Batum got 46/4, Kawhi will get more.

[Chinook]

Somewhere between 48/4 and the max for 4 years (about 60/4). Batum got 46/4, Kawhi will get more.

I don't see how the Spurs don't use their five-year extension on Leonard. I think the team is looking at $60-70M/5. That would put Leonard's first-year salary between $10.4 Million and $12.2 Million.

[vander]

Keep Mills and trade parker

[will_spurs]

I'm not sure about Diaw getting $7-8 million/year. He's playing at that level now, sure, but he's not exactly young. Now, his game doesn't really rely on athleticism much, but how confident are we that he'll still be playing at this high of a level in 2-3 years?

The point is not "how confident are we" but "how confident are other teams". Bigs tend to get paid and even overpaid.

[Baam]

The point is not "how confident are we" but "how confident are other teams". Bigs tend to get paid and even overpaid.

Well Boris could have left already for more money, I think he could meet them in the middle again if the conditions are right... The 5M of the MLE could do it if they sell him on championships which is not as easy as it could seem... The perfect way to handle it could be to sign Boris and extend TP at the same time, much easier selling them on giving up money to win with each other than for the whole team (because then things get more complicated not to say uneasy with perturbing factors like Tiago getting 10M)...

[AFBlue]

Keep Mills and trade parker

:lmao

That would be the worst mistake since we traded Paul George tbqh.

[cd021]

Somewhere between 48/4 and the max for 4 years (about 60/4). Batum got 46/4, Kawhi will get more.

I would think we would extend him to a 5 year deal in the range $60 million. If the Spurs believe he can be a star, locking him up for the next 6 seasons (that includes the final year of rookie deal) on a deal that could potentially be a steal.

[cd021]

The point is not "how confident are we" but "how confident are other teams". Bigs tend to get paid and even overpaid.

I don't Diaw fits into that "overpaid big" category that usually includes either an athletic or really tall big. He's going to be 32 in 12 days and, despite rehabbing his career, probably doesn't get a much better offer from another team. His skill as a passer and a versatile defender along with his ability to score off the dribble, in the post and from deep aren't going to translate as well to another team.

a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal sounds right.

[Mel_13]

I don't see how the Spurs don't use their five-year extension on Leonard. I think the team is looking at $60-70M/5. That would put Leonard's first-year salary between $10.4 Million and $12.2 Million.


I would think we would extend him to a 5 year deal in the range $60 million. If the Spurs believe he can be a star, locking him up for the next 6 seasons (that includes the final year of rookie deal) on a deal that could potentially be a steal.

I agree that the Spurs would love a 60M/5yr deal. It's just a matter of how much in potential earnings that Kawhi is willing to leave on the table in exchange for the additional security.

[chazley]

Keep in mind, Spurs want to preserve every drop of cap space they can for summer of 2015. You will likely have Parker resigned, Kawhi extended (he's likely to be paid the max) and Tiago as the Spurs under contract for that year. Spurs are going to try their hardest to get Diaw on a one-year deal, or possibly a two-year deal with a team option. Mills is likely gone. You can't give a backup PG 3-5 million in a year when you have been hoarding cap space, and he's not taking a one-year deal. Lamarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love will be available that summer - you can bet your ass the Spurs know that and have been planning this team around that fact. Parker ~10m, Kawhi ~16m, Tiago ~8m, Love ~20m

Ginobili retires, Duncan retires, we resign Belinelli as our starting 2-guard

Parker
Belinelli
Kawhi
Kevin Love
Tiago

Contender.

[Baam]

:lol Kiwi getting the max...

[ABC]

Parker's highest salary in a season in 13 seasons so far has been 13.5 million.
Ginobili's highest salary in a season in 12 seasons so far has been 14.1 million.

Assuming max increases, in year 4 of a 4 year, $48 million dollar contract Leonard would earn $13.6 million at age 27.
Assuming max increases, in year 4 of a 4 year, $60 million dollar contract Leonard would earn $17 million at age 27.
Assuming max increases, in year 5 of a 5 year, $60 million dollar contract Leonard would earn $14 million at age 28.
Assuming max increases, in year 5 of a 5 year, $70 million dollar contract Leonard would earn $16.4 million at age 28.

[jkid12456]

injou

[Boomersgold]

Patty's a great chemistry guy! Why wouldn't we want to re-sign him?

Check out this video of him doing his introduction rituals with Duncan, Parker, Splitter, Green and Kawhi.

https://vine.co/v/MiAAJHEi6Dx

[Spursfanfromafar]

Everything point toward Pop, RC & co planning to do this again next year, what they have been doing this year. Continuity, corporate knowledge etc.

I expect Patty & Boris to be resigned at decentish contracts - Patty to get Matt Bonner's contract in some sense and Diaw to be paid the same he has been paid in the last two contracts + a little bit more of rewards for hardwork this year.

[BackHome]

With regards to Diaw I don't think he gets a big contract he is older and he had issues about being lazy before he became a Spur. He doesn't fit with most teams and will probably get less then his last contract so maybe two year at eight mill. As far as Mills I hope we can keep the guy he brings so much to the team, and I do think he will stay if we don't low ball him with regards to his new contract.

[Mel_13]

Patty's a great chemistry guy! Why wouldn't we want to re-sign him?

Check out this video of him doing his introduction rituals with Duncan, Parker, Splitter, Green and Kawhi.

https://vine.co/v/MiAAJHEi6Dx

The Spurs will want to keep him at the right price/length of contract. If Patty wants to seek his full market value he'll probably be in another uniform next season.

[Raven]

Keep in mind, Spurs want to preserve every drop of cap space they can for summer of 2015. You will likely have Parker resigned, Kawhi extended (he's likely to be paid the max) and Tiago as the Spurs under contract for that year. Spurs are going to try their hardest to get Diaw on a one-year deal, or possibly a two-year deal with a team option. Mills is likely gone. You can't give a backup PG 3-5 million in a year when you have been hoarding cap space, and he's not taking a one-year deal. Lamarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love will be available that summer - you can bet your ass the Spurs know that and have been planning this team around that fact. Parker ~10m, Kawhi ~16m, Tiago ~8m, Love ~20m

Ginobili retires, Duncan retires, we resign Belinelli as our starting 2-guard

Parker
Belinelli
Kawhi
Kevin Love
Tiago

Contender.

dear god that's a nightmare.

[vander]

no I'm kinda dead serious. Parker getting older and slower, plus it's the system that manufactures points. Parker playing hero ball produces less and less every time. you just have to know your responsibility and be able to make the 3 or make the difficult acrobatic layup, if Mills can do this for 5 mill a year...

[Chinook]

no I'm kinda dead serious. Parker getting older and slower, plus it's the system that manufactures points. Parker playing hero ball produces less and less every time. you just have to know your responsibility and be able to make the 3 or make the difficult acrobatic layup, if Mills can do this for 5 mill a year...

I know Mills homers like to overrate Patty's PG skills, but no. Mills' game is nothing like Parker. If anyone can best simulate Tony's offensive skillset, it's Joseph, and he can't do it nearly consistently enough. If the Spurs part ways with Parker, they pretty much have to scrap their offense and start again.

[MannyIsGod]

Patty fucking Mills better be a Spur next year. Those of you comparing him to Neal are fucking stupid (but so are those you saying he could replace Parker).

[ducks]

Duncan and tp want patty
he will be back
he is so much better then neal


oh and tp and patty now play together some