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baseline bum
04-04-2014, 11:08 PM
Pacers have struggled since trading Danny Granger. Heat official: ‘Now you see why we didn’t trade’ Udonis Haslem. (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/04/pacers-have-struggled-since-trading-danny-granger-heat-official-now-you-see-why-we-didnt-trade-udonis-haslem/)

The Pacers have gone through all kinds of turmoil following a strong start to the season that had them atop the Eastern Conference standings until just recently.

Paul George has struggled both on and off the court, Roy Hibbert has called out his teammates’ selfishness, and perhaps most importantly, the losses are piling up, with Indiana having won just seven times in its last 17 contests.

One might wonder if it can all be traced back to the deadline deal that saw the Pacers trade Danny Granger.

Chemistry is extremely fragile on any championship contender, and it goes beyond simple Xs and Os. Despite not really doing much since getting healthy, Granger was the team’s elder statesman, having been there for more than eight seasons and acting as a locker room leader for the team’s younger core players.

A Miami Heat official pointed to Indiana’s struggles as the reason they chose to keep their longest tenured player as the trade deadline passed.

From Ethan Skolnick of Bleacher Report:

Heat players have referred to the risks you run when reshuffling a contender so late in the season.

As one Heat official recently put it, “Now you see why we didn’t trade U.D.” …

How would that have gone over?

“That’s a tough question,” Mario Chalmers said, measuring his words. “U.D., besides Dwyane and Bron and CB, he is the heart and soul of this team. He is one of the captains, one of the leaders on this team. He sets a good example for everybody else. I don’t know. It wouldn’t have been a good thing.”

Haslem has found himself in the starting lineup as of late, and has been positively affecting the team’s net rating far more than Shane Battier or Greg Oden had been able to in their opportunities there this season. He’s remained ready, and Miami has needed him on the court when it didn’t look like that would be the case when the season first began.

It’s easy to pile on the Pacers for what sure seems like a mistake now, when Haslem is contributing and Indiana has fallen off a cliff since dealing Granger. But chemistry is an undeniable component to winning a an NBA title, and unless the Pacers prove that they can regain it come playoff time, the consensus will be that their midseason trade was extremely short-sighted.

HarlemHeat37
04-04-2014, 11:11 PM
:lol if trading a bench scrub is the reason you're slumping, you were never a real contender, tbh..

Indiana had an easy schedule + George/Stephenson/Hibbert playing above their heads..

Lance Stephenson is a shitty player and George Hill shouldn't be starting on an NBA team, he's a PG that can't dribble a basketball..it's going to be tough to succeed offensively with a shitty backcourt + a big man with limited mobility..

Indiana is still a contender by default, though..

Rogue
04-04-2014, 11:33 PM
^ you don't know shit about basketball, fag. Granger was a fan favorite in Inddy and losing him didn't only hurt the team's popularity among fans, but also damaged the team's chemistry to a significant extent. That's why the Spurs gave Manu the 7m'yr extension despite him winning Miami the championship last season. Manu is still a fan favorite among Argentinian fans (if not all spanish-speaking fans) so the presence of his bald spot will continue to attract a steady flow of hispanic fans into the gym. Not to say that Manu is probably most respected guys in Spurs locker room (since he doesn't sleep with no teammate's wife, nor does he allow any teammate to sleep with his)

Katherine Robinson
04-04-2014, 11:35 PM
You don't trade the glue man, it is why Fischer was a welcomed Laker until it fell apart.

JohnnyMax
04-04-2014, 11:37 PM
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/manu-wins-free-hair-hat.gif

Kool Bob Love
04-04-2014, 11:39 PM
^ you don't know shit about basketball, fag. Granger was a fan favorite in Inddy and losing him didn't only hurt the team's popularity among fans, but also damaged the team's chemistry to a significant extent. That's why the Spurs gave Manu the 7m'yr extension despite him winning Miami the championship last season. Manu is still a fan favorite among Argentinian fans (if not all spanish-speaking fans) so the presence of his bald spot will continue to attract a steady flow of hispanic fans into the gym. Not to say that Manu is probably most respected guys in Spurs locker room (since he doesn't sleep with no teammate's wife, nor does he allow any teammate to sleep with his)

Glad to have you back. Needed this. Goddess would be proud. :tu

Kool Bob Love
04-04-2014, 11:40 PM
Also OKC trading harden before the start of the 2012-2013 season. Killed the team.

HI-FI
04-05-2014, 12:07 AM
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/manu-wins-free-hair-hat.gif

:lol
still a GOAT gif....before Manu went El Ocho as well.:depressed

Mugen
04-05-2014, 12:10 AM
:lol It also doesn't help that your All Star C is only good against one team and your "superstar" forward is stupid enough to get catfish'd in 2014 tbh

HI-FI
04-05-2014, 12:11 AM
You don't trade the glue man, it is why Fischer was a welcomed Laker until it fell apart.
some truth to this. it's why I laugh when upstairs wants to trade a guy like Bonner for some random nigga off the streets. Not that Bonner is the glue guy, but he's definitely part of the team's chemistry.

StrengthAndHonor
04-05-2014, 12:20 AM
Lance Stephenson is a shitty player and George Hill shouldn't be starting on an NBA team, he's a PG that can't dribble a basketball..it's going to be tough to succeed offensively with a shitty backcourt + a big man with limited mobility..
..
Boom

scanry
04-05-2014, 02:45 AM
:lol if trading a bench scrub is the reason you're slumping, you were never a real contender, tbh..

Indiana is still a contender by default, though..

How are they a contender by default? You ain't going to beat Miami with so many flaws. TBH they played out of their minds last year. That series shouldn't have gone over 6 tbh.

LkrFan
04-05-2014, 03:28 AM
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/manu-wins-free-hair-hat.gif
:rollin :lmao :rollin

Sybok
04-05-2014, 09:24 AM
lol... Chalmers "Besides everyone else on the team, U.D. is the heart and soul of the team"

Killakobe81
04-05-2014, 09:33 AM
:lol if trading a bench scrub is the reason you're slumping, you were never a real contender, tbh..

Indiana had an easy schedule + George/Stephenson/Hibbert playing above their heads..

Lance Stephenson is a shitty player and George Hill shouldn't be starting on an NBA team, he's a PG that can't dribble a basketball..it's going to be tough to succeed offensively with a shitty backcourt + a big man with limited mobility..

Indiana is still a contender by default, though..

In the triangle with a dominant wing he woul be fine. Put Hill on the 3peat Lakers he could easily play the broke down Ron Harper role ...

Mel_13
04-05-2014, 09:54 AM
The Heat didn't trade Haslem, but they did amnesty Miller. It remains to be seen how much they'll miss him in the playoffs.

Ghazi
04-05-2014, 10:15 AM
Can an offense this bad win a championship ? I doubt it... it's comparable to the 2004 Pistons, 2007 Cavs, and 2003 Nets... except even worse.

SpurSwag
04-05-2014, 11:48 AM
lol... Chalmers "Besides everyone else on the team, U.D. is the heart and soul of the team"

Lmao exactly what I took from that article

benefactor
04-05-2014, 12:17 PM
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/manu-wins-free-hair-hat.gif
That game is the greatest sports moment of my life. Being there in person was a big reason why game 6 was easy to get over.

Dallas
04-05-2014, 04:46 PM
Indy will still take a game against Miami... probably game 1. The haters rejoice & Jacob1983 jacks off repeatedly, only for LeBron to back-door sweep the fake contenders. How many times have we seen this script?

Rogue
04-05-2014, 06:37 PM
Can an offense this bad win a championship ? I doubt it... it's comparable to the 2004 Pistons, 2007 Cavs, and 2003 Nets... except even worse.
04 pistons did win it though. Pacers D is just as good as Memphis while their O is so much better. If they still have the same chemistry they had through the early half of the season it wouldn't surprise me if they won the championship somehow, since the grizzlies could crawl their way into the WCF last season simply by their grinding defense.

spurraider21
04-05-2014, 06:43 PM
Indy will still take a game against Miami... probably game 1. The haters rejoice & Jacob1983 jacks off repeatedly, only for LeBron to back-door sweep the fake contenders. How many times have we seen this script?
not once yet, as far as indiana is concerned

Sybok
04-05-2014, 07:01 PM
In the triangle with a dominant wing he woul be fine. Put Hill on the 3peat Lakers he could easily play the broke down Ron Harper role ...

Sure you could hide him in a system, hell he's hid in that one, but he has no business playing the starting PG role, none.