Sumlin is running a tight ship down there looks like

[The Batman]

Texas A&M wide receiver Ricky Seals-Jones (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/208121/ricky-seals-jones) was arrested early Sunday morning and charged with disorderly conduct (language), as first reported by KBTX's Steve Fullhart (http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/AM-Wide-Receiver-Arrested-for-Disorderly-Conduct-254099261.html).
Police say Seals-Jones was arrested after an altercation with someone who bumped into him attempted to fight someone who bumped into him as he was being "carried away by his friends" near a bar-heavy area of College Station.

As the officer moved towards the scene to see and hear what was going on, he says Seals-Jones broke away from his friends and yelled "F*** you! You want some?" The officer also says Seals-Jones motioned to the other person like he wanted to fight. The player was taken into custody on the misdemeanor charge.


A Texas A&M spokesman told KBTX Seals-Jones has been suspended indefinitely, per team policy.
The former five-star recruit caught three passes for 84 yards and a touchdown in Texas A&M's opener against Rice last season, but suffered a season-ending injury in the game and will be a redshirt freshman this season. He is expected to help fill the void caused by the departure of star receiver Mike Evans (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/37100/mike-evans).

Quarterback Kenny Hill was arrested in late March (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/3/28/5559064/kenny-hill-texas-a-m-arrest) and charged with public intoxication after being unable to name either the president or himself. Defensive tackle Isaiah Golden (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/208211/isaiah-golden) and linebacker Darian Claiborne (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/208165/darian-claiborne) were arrested in late February for possession of marijuana and a noise violation, respectively.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/6/5587486/ricky-seals-jones-texas-a-m-arrest

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Aggy

[Vito Corleone]

Usually players wait until after they win something before they turn retarded. Aggsy getting ahead of themselves again.

[Fpoonsie]

Heh. Neat.

[leemajors]

ehh plenty of similar stories during Mack's tenure.

[The Batman]

ehh plenty of similar stories during Mack's tenure.
Sumlin has won a grand total of nothing, and already the inmates are running the asylum. That whole Aggie "Code of Honor" thing was funny though. At this rate, he'll have more arrests than victories.

[leemajors]

Sumlin has won a grand total of nothing, and already the inmates are running the asylum. That whole Aggie "Code of Honor" thing was funny though. At this rate, he'll have more arrests than victories.

Let's give Sumlin 5-6 years to win something then.

[FkLA]

Why are UT fans obsessed with A&M? I thought it was the other way around tbh. :wtf

[Clipper Nation]

Why are UT fans obsessed with A&M? I thought it was the other way around tbh. :wtf

Closet Aggy deflecting as usual, UT is clearly in your head :lol

[FkLA]

Closet Aggy deflecting as usual, UT is clearly in your head :lol

Oh ok.

[The Reckoning]

a proud african american not being able to name the president :lol

[DMX7]

ehh plenty of similar stories during Mack's tenure.

Mack's "kids" did no such thing. Spotless record.

[Bill_Brasky]

Not as tight as OP's butthole at the mention of aggy.

[The Batman]

Not as tight as OP's butthole at the mention of aggy.
Sumlin wasn't shit before Aggy. Nice try.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Thanks for keeping your ear to the ground for TAMU news, OP. Much obliged.

[Blake]

Thanks for keeping your ear to the ground for TAMU news, OP. Much obliged.

:cry but I don't really care :cry

[Blake]

Let's give Sumlin 5-6 years to win something then.

Yeah, I'd like to see how he does without the greatest football player in Aggie history.

He's got the recruiting class but I'm pretty skeptical.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

:cry but I don't really care :cry

Obsession noted

[The Batman]

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Tight ship.

[Blake]

Obsession noted

your aggy bros refer to it as "agsessed".

and you really caring is noted every time you mention how much you don't care

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I care about A&M.

I don't care what you call A&M.

Learn the difference, troll :lol

[Blake]

I don't care what you call A&M.


Neat.

why do you keep telling me you don't care? I don't recall asking your opinion on anything.

[Fpoonsie]

451923171482947585


Tight ship.

ROFL. This would scare the SHIT outta me tbh.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

:lol

[The Batman]

Darian Claiborne and Isaiah Golden have been dismissed from the Texas A&M football team, Aggie head coach Kevin Sumlin announced.

“These two individuals have failed to meet the high expectations and standards that we have for our football players and as representatives of this university,” Sumlin said. “These two players have exhibited a pattern of behavior that we will not tolerate at Texas A&M.

[The Batman]

2 Aggie starters arrested for aggravated robberyUPDATE: 5:55 p.m. _ Darian Claiborne and Isaiah Golden were in jail Tuesday afternoon after bond was set for $120,000 each after they were arrested for aggravated robbery.
Both were kicked off the Aggie football team earlier in the day, before word broke that the two had been arrested and charged with three counts of aggravated robbery.
From the press release issued by the College Station police department:
"On May 23, 2014 at approximately 2255 hrs, officers with the College Station Police Department were dispatched to the 2000 blk of Holleman Drive W in regards to a report of an aggravated robbery that had just occurred. Upon arrival officers met with two victims, a 20 year old male and a 22 year old male, and learned that the reported robbery had actually occurred a short distance away at their apartment in the 1100 blk of Jones Butler Road. They further stated that a third victim, a 20 year old male, was at that apartment and that he had been struck in the head during the robbery by one of the suspects. Officers responded to the apartment, located the third victim, and found him to have suffered minor injuries as a result of being struck.

Investigation at the scene found that the three victims had entered into an agreement to purchase a quantity of marijuana from the suspects. When the suspects arrived at the apartment to complete the transaction, one of the suspects produced a handgun, pointed it at one of the victims while the other suspect took the money that was present to purchase the marijuana. While this was occurring, one of the victims stood up from the couch and was struck in the face by the suspect with the handgun. The suspects then fled the area on foot and the victims notified police."
http://www.statesman.com/weblogs/12th-word-tamu/2014/jun/03/2-starters-dismissed-m-football-team/

[The Batman]

I guess aggravated robbery is where Sumlin draws the line :lol

[The Batman]

If you have concerns on the handling of student athletes on campus arrests, then I would encourage all to call and voice your opinion especially in reference to RSJ arrest for cursing. The arresting office is Officer Snell. The Patrol Officer phone number is 979-764-3600 which I have called and left a message that I would like for Officer Snell to call me back. Also the Media contact is Lt. Chuck Fleeger at 979-764-3613 for questions and concerns and his cell# is 979-987-1096. Lets make some calls Ags....
http://tamu.247sports.com/Board/20/Contents/CSPD-Phone-Officer-Snell-28205043


:lmao holy hell Aggy :rollin

[DMX7]

$120K bond? Shit, they probably don't qualify for a payday advance from the boosters anymore either.

[benefactor]

Maybe if he gave more rides to players in the swagcopter they would stay out of trouble.

[The Batman]

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Aggie jokes continue to write themselves

[The Batman]

Texas A&M football player in court on assault charges
It is all a case of mistaken identity.
That's what the attorney for Gavin Stansbury said after the 6-foot 4-inch, 255-pound defensive end for Texas A&M appeared in a Houston court Thursday on an assault charge.
"We're 100 percent sure that he will be acquitted or the charges will be dismissed," said lawyer Allena Wright. "Gavin was not in the area of Rice at all."
Stansbury, 21, is accused of appearing on the fourth floor of a Rice University dorm about 2:30 a.m. March 16. Police said he argued with a student, and later poured a beer over his head and punched him in the face.
The two men were separated by other witnesses. The wound above the student's eye took eight stitches to close, according to court records.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-A-M-football-player-in-court-on-assault-5445626.php

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Aggy
:lol Can't win their conference or even a relevant bowl
:lol Settling for the Fulmer Cup instead

[Clipper Nation]

:lol 8 players arrested and counting

[leemajors]

shoplifting at Kohl's?

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4783276/rosenberg-unwanted.jpg

[DMX7]

shoplifting at Kohl's?

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4783276/rosenberg-unwanted.jpg

:lol

[Sisk]

Non story tbh. Reigning Heisman winner stole and nothing came of it. He will be punished internally but not kicked off.

How did the recruits like Little Ceasers at Strong's camp? He really knows what the kids like these days. We will be telling our grandkids about this turnaround.

[DMX7]

Non story tbh. Reigning Heisman winner stole and nothing came of it. He will be punished internally but not kicked off.


"An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do."

lol

[DMX7]

Your honor code is a joke, Aggy.

[Michael Jordan.]

lol Aggy. Butthurt as fuck but they were shitting on Mack Turdfaggot for the same damn thing.

[Michael Jordan.]

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[the chronic]

Non story tbh.

:lol

[Michael Jordan.]

I love how Aggy thinks this is a non story btw. They already had no discipline on defense last year. Off the field issues show up on the field.

[Sisk]

lol Aggy. Butthurt as fuck but they were shitting on Mack Turdfaggot for the same damn thing.

It shows where both programs are. When we sucked, we loved these moments because that's all we had. Roles are completely reversed now and it's a beautiful thing. Sumlin will just land another 5 star and this guy won't see the field. No big deal.

[Sisk]

Your honor code is a joke, Aggy.

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

It shows where both programs are. When we sucked, we loved these moments because that's all we had. Roles are completely reversed now and it's a beautiful thing. Sumlin will just land another 5 star, still underachieve to Aggy's usual 6-8 win level, and this guy won't see the field. No big deal.
fify

[DMX7]

490654121494474752

:lol

[Sisk]

fify

Nobody is talking about Boise St.

[Michael Jordan.]

It shows where both programs are. When we sucked, we loved these moments because that's all we had. Roles are completely reversed now and it's a beautiful thing. Sumlin will just land another 5 star and this guy won't see the field. No big deal.
:lol that's exactly your problem. 5 stars don't matter when your can't coach worth a shit and you coddle them. Just ask Mack.

[Clipper Nation]

Nobody is talking about Boise St.
lol Aggy
lol :cry "People are talking about us for once... who cares if it's only about which player got arrested this week!" :cry

[ColinB]

Seriously though.

Kohl's.

:lol :lol :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Seriously though.

Kohl's.

:lol :lol :lol
:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Whoever is running this account is killin it :lol

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[Clipper Nation]

Seriously though.

Kohl's.

:lol :lol :lol
:lmao

[the chronic]

It shows where both programs are. When we sucked, we loved these moments because that's all we had. Roles are completely reversed now and it's a beautiful thing. Sumlin will just land another 5 star and this guy won't see the field. No big deal.

You lost 4 games last year and ags are picked by Vegas to only win 7 games this year. Failing to make the connection to how 4th place division finish puts you at top of heap. Yes Sumlin can recruit and if he keeps it up in 2-3 years you'll likely have success if Sumlin can keep things together but you're bragging on potential that hasn't materialized yet. Not arguing that Texas is in better position as I expect both teams to have lots of losses this year but at same time not getting the connection of argument made.

[rjv]

part of the problem with recruiting is that the more you get from the top the more likely you are going to inherit the baggage of the self-entitled d-bags. UT had several during the mack brown era and sumlin now has way too many as far as i'm concerned. sumlin is clearly fine with it although it makes me far less comfortable. i know that not everyone on the team you root for is a saint but it does get to the point where it gets ridiculous. it will be interesting to see how much of a disciplinarian strong turns out to be once he starts landing the big names (unless his reputation prevents him from landing many).

[Blake]

part of the problem with recruiting is that the more you get from the top the more likely you are going to inherit the baggage of the self-entitled d-bags. UT had several during the mack brown era and sumlin now has way too many as far as i'm concerned. sumlin is clearly fine with it although it makes me far less comfortable. i know that not everyone on the team you root for is a saint but it does get to the point where it gets ridiculous. it will be interesting to see how much of a disciplinarian strong turns out to be once he starts landing the big names (unless his reputation prevents him from landing many).

That's an interesting point. Probably a lot of truth in it.

the only program that seems immune to that d-bag diva factor is Alabama

[rjv]

That's an interesting point. Probably a lot of truth in it.

the only program that seems immune to that d-bag diva factor is Alabama


and bama is so loaded with talent that saban has the luxury of being able to dump a trouble-making blue chip at the sign of trouble. if i recall they had some key players whot got into some trouble a couple of years ago and within a month or so they were off the team.

[Clipper Nation]

the only program that seems immune to that d-bag diva factor is Alabama

Their coach is the biggest douchebag diva of all, tbh....

[DMX7]

I didn't make this, but lol.

https://imageshack.com/a/img539/5541/62f543.png

[The Reckoning]

manziel's photo is still the best lol

[DMX7]

manziel's photo is still the best lol

looks like he's straight out of American History X in that photo.

[DesignatedT]

:lol "yesoffiser"

[leemajors]

I didn't make this, but lol.

https://imageshack.com/a/img539/5541/62f543.png

Darian committing future crime

[Clipper Nation]

I didn't make this, but lol.

https://imageshack.com/a/img539/5541/62f543.png
:lol Aggy
:lol lying
:lol cheating
:lol stealing
:lol tolerating those who do

[djohn2oo8]

lol Sumlin. Warned aggie about this fucker.

[djohn2oo8]

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[DesignatedT]

lol Sumlin. Warned aggie about this fucker.

Lol what. This comes with the territory when recruiting the top talent around the country. A&M needs to change some things obviously but schools tend to have more disciplinary problems with higher rated recruits when compared to two and three star recruits for example. If you aren't that talented to begin with, AND you have a bad attitude, it's easy to say no to you. If you have all the talent in the world, coaches are willing to take the chance on you.

For example, A Georgia D-Lineman just got arrested today on assault. Georgia also picked up two new five star recruits today as well. That's the way it goes.


Texas had the same problems when they were recruiting at this level. Obviously, they aren't anymore as we all know.

[djohn2oo8]

Lol what. This comes with the territory when recruiting the top talent around the country. A&M needs to change some things obviously but schools tend to have more disciplinary problems with higher rated recruits when compared to two and three star recruits for example. If you aren't that talented to begin with, AND you have a bad attitude, it's easy to say no to you. If you have all the talent in the world, coaches are willing to take the chance on you.

For example, A Georgia D-Lineman just got arrested today on assault. Georgia also picked up two new five star recruits today as well. That's the way it goes.


Texas had the same problems when they were recruiting at this level. Obviously, they aren't anymore as we all know.

You are forgetting one thing. A&M is having these problems before WINNING anything. Not even ONE BCS bowl. Texas' recent problems came after winning a championship and getting to another, when Mack stopped giving a shit and complacency set in. It's completely different, A&M is not a big time program to be having such problems. They are having these problems after two non BCS bowl years, and don't think recruits aren't noticing.

[djohn2oo8]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img904/5182/f2b534.gif

[Sisk]

don't think recruits aren't noticing.

If this is how we recruit with them "noticing" then I have no idea how amazing it would be if they weren't.

[djohn2oo8]

Gregg Tapper, "A&M gave up 7.97 y/a on 3rd and 3-or-less in 2013, second-worst average in the nation. That's why front seven losses are concerning."

David Wunderlich, "Also, A&M allowed nearly EIGHT yards per carry on third and short last year. That's uh less than stellar."

David Wunderlich, "Since 2008, no one in the SEC allowed more than 5.41 YPC on third-and-short. And then boom, 7.97 for A&M last year."

[djohn2oo8]

If this is how we recruit with them "noticing" then I have no idea how amazing it would be if they weren't.
Recruiting means nothing if you can't coach em up.

[Sisk]

Recruiting means nothing if you can't coach em up.

No one is debating that. Not sure what that has to do with recruits noticing people getting arrested though.

[DMX7]

Clearly, recruits don't care that much. #thuglife

[Sisk]

"@BDavisAAS: BREAKING: #Texas WR Kendall Sanders and Montrel Meander charged with sexual assault, 2nd degree felonies. Bail $75k. Story soon. STATesman"

Has Strong lost control?

[Blake]

Uh oh. Aggie trying to point that thumb towards Austin now

[rjv]

personally, i've always thought it's been pretty strange to point out the transgressions of players from other schools. it's an ebb and flow and the one constant in college athletics, and all of sports really, is that all teams at one point will have a player or several players who are despicable human beings.

[Sisk]

personally, i've always thought it's been pretty strange to point out the transgressions of players from other schools. it's an ebb and flow and the one constant in college athletics, and all of sports really, is that all teams at one point will have a player or several players who are despicable human beings.

Hence my joke about Strong losing control.

[ChumpDumper]

Thank goodness lolUTSA's pedo recruit never made it to campus.

[Clipper Nation]

"@BDavisAAS: BREAKING: #Texas WR Kendall Sanders and Montrel Meander charged with sexual assault, 2nd degree felonies. Bail $75k. Story soon. STAT (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7834)esman"
:lol They'll probably end up starting at Aggy soon enough....

[FkLA]

"@BDavisAAS: BREAKING: #Texas WR Kendall Sanders and Montrel Meander charged with sexual assault, 2nd degree felonies. Bail $75k. Story soon. STAT (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7834)esman"

Has Strong lost control?

:cry but but theyve won a title and been to another one in the past decade. :cry

dumbjohn is such a stupid faggot. Nigga goes/went to UTSA too so hes a walmart longhorn. T-shirts are always the most obnoxious and retarded fans tbh.

[FkLA]

Damn just noticed one of the dudes involved was Montrel Meander. UTSA recruited him hard, think he was on his way to Washington St with Leach before UT offered late in the cycle. If the affidavit holds these guys are fucked tbh.

[Sisk]

:lol They'll probably end up starting at Aggy soon enough....

Good one.

[shyne]

There are rumors out there that 2 more aggy players have been arrested for armed robbery, hope it ain't true cause this shit is getting old already. Wish these dumbass kids would wake the fuck up.

[DMX7]

:lol "yesoffiser"

#YESoffiSIR

I found that hilarious. I was kind of surprised that you did too though.

[Kermit]

There are rumors out there that 2 more aggy players have been arrested for armed robbery, hope it ain't true cause this shit is getting old already. Wish these dumbass kids would wake the fuck up.

Between Texas, Aggy, and Toad Aggy we could field a pretty good penal league team.

[Sisk]

#YESoffiSIR

I found that hilarious. I was kind of surprised that you did too though.

Have to just laugh at it at this point.

[Twisted_Dawg]

lol Sumlin. Warned aggie about this fucker.

Which fucker?

[DesignatedT]

So 4 horns dismissed from the team yesterday? :lol

Warned you about that fucker.

[DesignatedT]

There are rumors out there that 2 more aggy players have been arrested for armed robbery, hope it ain't true cause this shit is getting old already. Wish these dumbass kids would wake the fuck up.

False. The two horns who raped a teenager did happen though. As well as the other two who were dismissed yesterday.




How long are we going to play this game? It's collegiate athletics, there are bad kids in every school. Get over it.

[DesignatedT]

lol Sumlin. Warned aggie about this fucker.

5 horns gone in two days.

Lol Strong. Warned you about this fucker.

[the chronic]

False. The two horns who raped a teenager did happen though. As well as the other two who were dismissed yesterday.

How long are we going to play this game? It's collegiate athletics, there are bad kids in every school. Get over it.

Trash talking and joking over misdemeanors for pot, drinking, shoplifting, etc is all fun and games. But when the allegations are sexual assault and armed robbery I would hope we could halt the play games and be a little more mature. To use these opportunities to take jabs at a school are embarrassing on both sides from all these posts I'm reading. The thoughts should be with the victims and that justice should be done regardless of your school allegiance. Sounds like some serious jail time is deserved when you read allegations for parties involved.

[rjv]

Between Texas, Aggy, and Toad Aggy we could field a pretty good penal league team.


they can film a reboot of the longest yard at each of the colleges here in texas. hell, even UTSA had to kick off some players from the team a year or two ago due to criminal charges.

[rjv]

Trash talking and joking over misdemeanors for pot, drinking, shoplifting, etc is all fun and games. But when the allegations are sexual assault and armed robbery I would hope we could halt the play games and be a little more mature. To use these opportunities to take jabs at a school are embarrassing on both sides from all these posts I'm reading. The thoughts should be with the victims and that justice should be done regardless of your school allegiance. Sounds like some serious jail time is deserved when you read allegations for parties involved.

couldn't agree more. this is embarrassing for all the texas schools. and truthfully, i think that some of this starts in high school. i can say that when i played ball in high school, about 30% of my teammates partied to excess and were pretty misogynistic. i can't even imagine what kind of self-entitlement a blue chip player feels and how invulnerable they feel when they get to college. these players need to understand that as much as we worship football here in texas, football does not transcend personal conduct and criminal conduct is not to be ignored or tolerated.

[DesignatedT]

Trash talking and joking over misdemeanors for pot, drinking, shoplifting, etc is all fun and games. But when the allegations are sexual assault and armed robbery I would hope we could halt the play games and be a little more mature. To use these opportunities to take jabs at a school are embarrassing on both sides from all these posts I'm reading. The thoughts should be with the victims and that justice should be done regardless of your school allegiance. Sounds like some serious jail time is deserved when you read allegations for parties involved.


I didn't see any horns showing any remorse for anyone when it wasn't their players doing the bad. I hope anyone who commits a serious crime is punished accordingly.

That affidavit made me sick to my stomach. They will get what they deserve. I am not laughing at all over some of these allegations but I am laughing at the Horns who were having a field day with this over the past month only to have it come right back around to them. You don't see A&M fans making posters and memes about this. Everyone understands how serious the allegations are. Just discussing it on a message board here.

The entire point was how talking trash about this type of thing is retarded in the first place. Even if it is a "minor" or misdemeanor charge, even those end up ruining a kids future. I don't think that is funny either.

[rjv]

apparently, this is not confined to the football teams (or the state of texas):

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/us/ohio-state-fires-marching-band-director-after-finding-tradition-of-sexual-hazing.html?_r=1

[Sisk]

I didn't see any horns showing any remorse for anyone when it wasn't their players doing the bad. I hope anyone who commits a serious crime is punished accordingly.

That affidavit made me sick to my stomach. They will get what they deserve. I am not laughing at all over some of these allegations but I am laughing at the Horns who were having a field day with this over the past month only to have it come right back around to them. You don't see A&M fans making posters and memes about this. Everyone understands how serious the allegations are. Just discussing it on a message board here.

The entire point was how talking trash about this type of thing is retarded in the first place. Even if it is a "minor" or misdemeanor charge, even those end up ruining a kids future. I don't think that is funny either.

Yup. It's all fun and games until a horn does it. I don't recall any horn on here feeling bad until their players committed crimes. Then it's let's think of the victims. Certainly didn't prevent them from making jokes about Claiborne and Golden's crimes.

[Clipper Nation]

Yup. It's all fun and games until a horn does it. I don't recall any horn on here feeling bad until their players committed crimes. Then it's let's think of the victims. Certainly didn't prevent them from making jokes about Claiborne and Golden's crimes.
Hornsessed

[Sisk]

Hornsessed

You care more about the horns and Aggies than your own team.

[DMX7]

5 horns gone in two days.

Lol Strong. Warned you about this fucker.

What are you talking about??? He's kicking Brown's overrated sorry ass "kids" off the team. He is holding people accountable unlike Sumlin who is "developing men" LMAO. (i.e., letting thugs -- most of whom he recruited -- do whatever they want with no consequences).

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[DesignatedT]

Smh. I was just pointing out how stupid djohns post was at #68.

[djohn2oo8]

Smh. I was just pointing out how stupid djohns post was at #68.
19 arrests in 2 years. Is aggy really that dumb?

[DesignatedT]

Glass house.

[DMX7]

19 arrests? that's ridiculous. they're makin' NFL teams look like choir boys.

[Clipper Nation]

Glass house.

Yes, Aggy is throwing stones from a glass house when you can't go five minutes without one of your players getting arrested :lol

[rjv]

19 arrests in 2 years. Is aggy really that dumb?

not sure that is that far off the norm. i can think of at least 12 horns arrested in that same time frame.

[Vito Corleone]

not sure that is that far off the norm. i can think of at least 12 horns arrested in that same time frame.

Sumlin is in his 3rd year in his program. The Ags that are being arrested are all his recruits with a good many of them coming from his 2012-13 class. Not sure how many were actually Sherman's kids, but it seems that you have lost about half of that class.

Now granted there is a huge gap between what the Ags are doing and what Saunders and Meander have done, the Ags, you can say were kids being kids, but what Saunders and Meander did was truly criminal, and I'm pretty sure most of us recognize this.

Now on the other hand we have Strong who has inherited a mess that Brown left and has come in and in 6 months has cleaned house by setting some core rules and expecting his players to live up to these rules. The ones that have not have been shown the door.

Now if Strong is also in year 3 and we are seeing 20 of his recruits getting arrested them I would say the same thing that we are saying about Sumlin. If I can compare the Ags right now to anyone it would be Texas back in 2007 and 2008 when we had a rash of kids being stupid and getting arrested and back then I questioned Brown and what he was doing and who was actually running the program the coaches or the players. The difference is that Brown had just won a championship and frankly there was no way he was going anywhere. Right or wrong he had skins on the wall and we loved him for it.

Does Sumlin have skins on the wall with you Ags to say he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point? I know if the roles were reversed most of us Texas fans would say no.

[djohn2oo8]

Sumlin benching Manziel for a half against Rice tells you just how much of a hardass he is.

[the chronic]

Yup. It's all fun and games until a horn does it. I don't recall any horn on here feeling bad until their players committed crimes. Then it's let's think of the victims. Certainly didn't prevent them from making jokes about Claiborne and Golden's crimes.


So if one longhorn makes an ignorant or foolish post, you in turn are required to do the same and are exempt for being a fool yourself? I do not understand the logic.

The pot arrests etc under the Mack era drew constant Aggie ire, jokes, etc and I don't believe that was in bad nature. Search for all the gif images etc Aggies made about the arrests. Or the OU guy masturbating etc. I don't see bad taste in making jokes about. If you read the affidavit for Sanders/Meander, yes I do believe it is something that is beyond making fun of. It's not just about the victims but about having discretion to know a violent rape isn't funny.

[DesignatedT]

Sumlin benching Manziel for a half against Rice tells you just how much of a hardass he is.

Actually the NCAA did that for allegedly signing autographs.

[DesignatedT]

So if one longhorn makes an ignorant or foolish post, you in turn are required to do the same and are exempt for being a fool yourself? I do not understand the logic.

The pot arrests etc under the Mack era drew constant Aggie ire, jokes, etc and I don't believe that was in bad nature. Search for all the gif images etc Aggies made about the arrests. Or the OU guy masturbating etc. I don't see bad taste in making jokes about. If you read the affidavit for Sanders/Meander, yes I do believe it is something that is beyond making fun of. It's not just about the victims but about having discretion to know a violent rape isn't funny.


Nobody is making jokes about the rape or laughing at their expense; just jokes about the majority of your fanbase who all of a sudden don't find this topic so funny & interesting anymore.

[rjv]

Sumlin is in his 3rd year in his program. The Ags that are being arrested are all his recruits with a good many of them coming from his 2012-13 class. Not sure how many were actually Sherman's kids, but it seems that you have lost about half of that class.

Now granted there is a huge gap between what the Ags are doing and what Saunders and Meander have done, the Ags, you can say were kids being kids, but what Saunders and Meander did was truly criminal, and I'm pretty sure most of us recognize this.

Now on the other hand we have Strong who has inherited a mess that Brown left and has come in and in 6 months has cleaned house by setting some core rules and expecting his players to live up to these rules. The ones that have not have been shown the door.

Now if Strong is also in year 3 and we are seeing 20 of his recruits getting arrested them I would say the same thing that we are saying about Sumlin. If I can compare the Ags right now to anyone it would be Texas back in 2007 and 2008 when we had a rash of kids being stupid and getting arrested and back then I questioned Brown and what he was doing and who was actually running the program the coaches or the players. The difference is that Brown had just won a championship and frankly there was no way he was going anywhere. Right or wrong he had skins on the wall and we loved him for it.

Does Sumlin have skins on the wall with you Ags to say he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point? I know if the roles were reversed most of us Texas fans would say no.

i absolutely respect what strong is doing and i hope it works, for the sake of college football because for decades college athletes have been above any sort of reproach whatsoever. mack brown was guilty of it as i'm sure sherman was as well. and sumlin is off to a bad start with his level of tolerance. kids who want to smoke pot and party are probably going to choose a&m over texas if they see strong has a zero tolerance for any sort of drug use. i want strong to have a winning program with what he is doing and i would root for him if he sticks to his convictions but do not kid yourself. if texas continues to go 8-5 for the next three seasons, many texas exes will grow tired of the policy and strong will either be forced to dilute the policy (look the other way when it comes to pot and booze) or just hold on to his convictions (in which case he would probably be forced out). sumlin has dismissed the players who were charged with felons (aggravated robbery) but he has held on to the ones who had been charged with misdemeanors. he clearly would have kicked off saunders and meander as well.

as you mentioned the moral indignation towards the out of control players during the brown era was non-existent. texas fans are no different than the rest of the college football fan landscape. winning trumps all. that is why the moral high horse act of many texas fans is so disingenuous. but again, good luck to strong and i sincerely hope he can prove to the college football world that you can win with good kids and that you don't have to enable the bad ones.

[DesignatedT]

i absolutely respect what strong is doing and i hope it works, for the sake of college football because for decades college athletes have been above any sort of reproach whatsoever. mack brown was guilty of it as i'm sure sherman was as well. and sumlin is off to a bad start with his level of tolerance. kids who want to smoke pot and party are probably going to choose a&m over texas if they see strong has a zero tolerance for any sort of drug use. i want strong to have a winning program with what he is doing and i would root for him if he sticks to his convictions but do not kid yourself. if texas continues to go 8-5 for the next three seasons, many texas exes will grow tired of the policy and strong will either be forced to dilute the policy (look the other way when it comes to pot and booze) or just hold on to his convictions (in which case he would probably be forced out). sumlin has dismissed the players who were charged with felons (aggravated robbery) but he has held on to the ones who had been charged with misdemeanors. he clearly would have kicked off saunders and meander as well.

as you mentioned the moral indignation towards the out of control players during the brown era was non-existent. texas fans are no different than the rest of the college football fan landscape. winning trumps all. that is why the moral high horse act of many texas fans is so disingenuous. but again, good luck to strong and i sincerely hope he can prove to the college football world that you can win with good kids and that you don't have to enable the bad ones.

Sorry to interrupt your Strong (and Texas) circle jerk (seems like that's all you post about lately tbh) but I can't help but think he would be a little more lenient if these were his own guys that he recruited. It's easy to kick off kids he didn't recruit, have zero relationship with, and probably don't really like as players to begin with. Fran did a lot of the same things when he got to A&M.

Simple case of weeding out the players you don't like and making examples out of the players you don't really see having a future there anyway.

[rjv]

Sorry to interrupt your Strong (and Texas) circle jerk (seems like that's all you post about lately tbh) but I can't help but think he would be a little more lenient if these were his own guys that he recruited. It's easy to kick off kids he didn't recruit, have zero relationship with, and probably don't really like as players to begin with. Fran did a lot of the same things when he got to A&M.

Simple case of weeding out the players you don't like and making examples out of the players you don't really see having a future there anyway.



that's one theory. maybe he is putting on a farce. jimmy johnson did the same when he was with the cowboys, cutting dumb asses like john roper and letting others like charles haley and michael irvin break every kind of law imaginable. but they were great players so it was tolerated. but that's pretty much my point. winning sanctions everything. strong may succeed with his low tolerance policy but most likely it will be a matter of time before he dilutes it out of necessity or gets fired. this doesn't mean i'm happy with sumlin's circus though. but i understand this comes with the territory. give me 60+ kids in any college much less those on a football team and i'm pretty sure some of them are going to be real assholes or d-bags. but it doesn't mean i have to like it or prefer it. and most of the texas posters in here are probably just trolling but if they are seriously offended by the antics at a&m then chances are that's just pure hypocrisy.

[DesignatedT]

I personally think this is genius, cleaning house like this gives Strong a cover when they don't come close to winning at the rate their delusional fan base expects. He will point to it and say "we need time to put our players in place".The fan base will also use this excuse for a few years until they realize it's total bullshit. Sounds a lot like what Fran did tbh. Too many similarities for me to ignore. Not saying he will turn out as bad as Fran but let's hold off on parading him around like a saint because he kicked off a few teenagers he didn't even know.

[rjv]

I personally think this is genius, cleaning house like this gives Strong a cover when they don't come close to winning at the rate their delusional fan base expects. He will point to it and say "we need time to put our players in place".The fan base will also use this excuse for a few years until they realize it's total bullshit. Sounds a lot like what Fran did tbh. Too many similarities for me to ignore. Not saying he will turn out as bad as Fran but let's hold off on parading him around like a saint because he kicked off a few teenagers he didn't even know.

i agree. if i had to bet on it, i would say strong either abandons his strict policies, weakens them or just never wins. texas can not survive on its brand name alone. those days are gone.

[Kermit]

i agree. if i had to bet on it, i would say strong either abandons his strict policies, weakens them or just never wins. texas can not survive on its brand name alone. those days are gone.

He's not even being that strict. He gave those fuckers months to get their shit together. He didn't come in and clean house. He laid out the ground work and it was up to the player if he wanted to be part of the team. He was a lot more lenient than I thought he was going to be.

[djohn2oo8]

Aggy talking about not coming close to passing expectations when they struggled to beat Duke WITH Manziel in the almighty Chick fil a bowl is hilarious.

[MannyIsGod]

Why is Clipper Nation obsessed with TAMU?

[Sisk]

Aggy talking about not coming close to passing expectations when they struggled to beat Duke WITH Manziel in the almighty Chick fil a bowl is hilarious.

I think this is funnier:

Horn commits with Aggie offers (2):
DeShon Elliott LB 3 Star
Toby Weathersby OL 4 Star


Aggie commits with horn offers (13):
Jay Bradford RB 4 stars
Jordan Davis TE 4 stars
Justin Dunning DB 4 stars
Trevor Elbert OL 4 stars
Kingsley Keke DT 3 stars
Connor Lanfear OL 3 stars
James Lockhart DE 4 stars
DaMarkus Lodge WR 4 stars
Daylon Mack DT 4 stars
Kyler Murray QB 4 stars
Larry Pryor DB 4 stars
Kemah Siverand WR 4 stars
Keaton Sutherland OL 4 stars

[Bill_Brasky]

Children, youre both irrelevant.

[leemajors]

I think this is funnier:

Horn commits with Aggie offers (2):
DeShon Elliott LB 3 Star
Toby Weathersby OL 4 Star


Aggie commits with horn offers (13):
Jay Bradford RB 4 stars
Jordan Davis TE 4 stars
Justin Dunning DB 4 stars
Trevor Elbert OL 4 stars
Kingsley Keke DT 3 stars
Connor Lanfear OL 3 stars
James Lockhart DE 4 stars
DaMarkus Lodge WR 4 stars
Daylon Mack DT 4 stars
Kyler Murray QB 4 stars
Larry Pryor DB 4 stars
Kemah Siverand WR 4 stars
Keaton Sutherland OL 4 stars

lol big victoria

[djohn2oo8]

I think this is funnier:

Horn commits with Aggie offers (2):
DeShon Elliott LB 3 Star
Toby Weathersby OL 4 Star


Aggie commits with horn offers (13):
Jay Bradford RB 4 stars
Jordan Davis TE 4 stars
Justin Dunning DB 4 stars
Trevor Elbert OL 4 stars
Kingsley Keke DT 3 stars
Connor Lanfear OL 3 stars
James Lockhart DE 4 stars
DaMarkus Lodge WR 4 stars
Daylon Mack DT 4 stars
Kyler Murray QB 4 stars
Larry Pryor DB 4 stars
Kemah Siverand WR 4 stars
Keaton Sutherland OL 4 stars

I think this is funnier:

Kevin Sumlin

[Sisk]

I think this is funnier:

Kevin Sumlin

Good one

[DesignatedT]

I think this is funnier:

Kevin Sumlin

http://www.gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/johnny-manziel-trolls-charlie-strong-ovo-sign-on-twitter.jpg

[Juan]

Will you faggots just start playing eachother again. Fuckin two fanbases are beyond obsessed with eachother.

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/johnny-manziel-trolls-charlie-strong-ovo-sign-on-twitter.jpg
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/507/176/6_1176507.JPG

:lol Sumlin
:lol Mizzou not needing Manziel or Evans
:lol Big XII castoff